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B-town

CS-041
« on: May 13, 2015, 11:14:41 AM »
First I am new here (UTAH). Vipsanna your build post was awesome. I am ready to pull the trigger on a 256… but I just saw the CS-041 I am thinking of waiting and picking up the new frame. Any opinions on the new frame? I don't need to order immediately because I have a bike right now should I wait and be a Guinea pig on the new frame?
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Vipassana

Re: CS-041
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2015, 01:01:26 PM »
Interesting!  I've never seen that design before.  It must be brand new. 

It appears to be the same weight as the 256.  I'd be curious to see some different views of the frame, but it looks like this might solve the high-stress problems they had on some 256 frames at the junction of the right and left seat stays before they go to the seat tube.

I hope they improved the cable routing a bit as well.

I still love my 256 and feel no need to replace it, but if it was damaged, I might look into this frame depending on how the reviews pan out.
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Carbon_Dude

Re: CS-041
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2015, 01:31:21 PM »
The CS-041 does appear to be brand new, the picture on www.xmcarbonspeed.com is a CAD model, not an true life picture.  Look forward to seeing some of these built up.
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2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
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2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
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RS VR6

Re: CS-041
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2015, 07:04:26 PM »
Frame does look interesting.

Its got a short reach and a really low stack compared to other frames of the same size (medium). Its got an AM bike reach with a XC bike stack height...or am I missing something? Also...are 442mm chainstays considered long these days? I wonder what travel fork the stack and reach was measured with.
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Carbon_Dude

Re: CS-041
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2015, 09:46:40 AM »
Comparing the geometry of the CS-041 to the CS-057 (the frame I have) and I see the numbers are nearly the same.  Even though the CS-041 frame appears to be totally different, the dimensions are within a few millimeters of at least one of the existing designs.
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2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

Zabran

Re: CS-041
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2015, 11:38:59 AM »
not trying to derail, but I just purchased a frame (so no actual riding experience yet) but i did choose WCB-M-062 over this CS-041 in part due to the shorter chainstay's on the 62.  Something to consider, its basically a carbon copy of the stumpjumper world cup it seems.
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Carbon_Dude

Re: CS-041
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2015, 12:19:51 PM »
Quote from: Zabran on May 15, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
not trying to derail, but I just purchased a frame (so no actual riding experience yet) but i did choose WCB-M-062 over this CS-041 in part due to the shorter chainstay's on the 62.  Something to consider, its basically a carbon copy of the stumpjumper world cup it seems.

I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

The difference in CS length between those two frames is only 10mm, not sure if anyone would even be able to notice such a small difference.
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2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

RS VR6

Re: CS-041
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2015, 03:42:54 PM »
The characteristics of a frame is measured in mm's. A couple here and there can make a difference in the way a bike handles. If you look at frame designs withing a certain discipline...the things that vary are mere millimeters. The stack, reach, headtube angles...all within a few mm's of each other....but they will all handle different in some way.

The stack and reach on the 062 with a 100mm fork is pretty much spot on to my Carve...but the 062 has 12mm shorter chainstays. The 062 feels twitchier and is easier to lift off the ground.
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PeterXu

Re: CS-041
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2015, 11:52:30 PM »
Here are some pictures of CS-041 in 17''.  there is no connecting braze between top tube and seat tube on 15'' frames
« Last Edit: May 26, 2015, 05:30:46 AM by PeterXu »
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skeeter97

Re: CS-041
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2015, 10:50:09 AM »
Just when I had my mind made up on the 057 they go and release a new frame. Peter have these been produced yet or would there be an extended wait time?
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Vipassana

Re: CS-041
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2015, 11:41:19 AM »
I am also interested.  Is the price comparable to the 256? Do you know of BB30 will be available?
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PeterXu

Re: CS-041
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2015, 11:54:30 PM »
Quote from: skeeter97 on May 24, 2015, 10:50:09 AM
Just when I had my mind made up on the 057 they go and release a new frame. Peter have these been produced yet or would there be an extended wait time?

Sizes 15''/17'' will be available in 10 days, size 19'' will be available in 25 days.
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PeterXu

Re: CS-041
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2015, 11:55:17 PM »
Quote from: Vipassana on May 24, 2015, 11:41:19 AM
I am also interested.  Is the price comparable to the 256? Do you know of BB30 will be available?

Yes, comparable to 256 SL frame, sorry, only BB92 option
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MTB2223

Re: CS-041
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2015, 05:03:56 AM »
Quote from: PeterXu on May 23, 2015, 11:52:30 PM
Here are some pictures of CS-041 in 17''.  there is no connecting braze between top tube and seat tube
The pictures shows a connection bridge between the top and seat tube. Do you have real pictures of a 17"version without ?
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PeterXu

Re: CS-041
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2015, 05:31:17 AM »
Quote from: MTB2223 on May 26, 2015, 05:03:56 AM
Quote from: PeterXu on May 23, 2015, 11:52:30 PM
Here are some pictures of CS-041 in 17''.  there is no connecting braze between top tube and seat tube
The pictures shows a connection bridge between the top and seat tube. Do you have real pictures of a 17"version without ?

Sorry, I meant 15'' frame, not 17''
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