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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: LTWOO eGR
« Last post by FabioZang on Today at 04:14:03 AM »
My eGR kit just showed up and I'm getting ready to configure. I ran into a question:

Is there a way to configure the shifters so that one can use BOTH sides at the same time?

I found that the app lets me change whether to use the right OR the left shifters to control the RD but see no setting to use both. On a side note, I find it hilarious that the app insists that the other one will be controlling the front derailleur which doesn't exist today on the eGR AND can't be powered with the eGR battery pack (the second power port is blank)
Ltwoo's idea is to use the left-hand button to control the electronic dropper seatpost. This dropper seatpost is expected to be released in the second half of this year, along with the mountain electronic derailleur. As for the accompanying shifting logic issues, it is indeed a frustrating design choice, but it seems that there are no other options at the moment.
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: LTWOO eGR
« Last post by FabioZang on Today at 04:09:55 AM »
Hi @FabioZang,

many thanks for your feedback! Question is, when did they have updated the version in order to be more waterproof - if they did at all?

If they did, how to ensure to get delivered the updated version and not the previous one. I have reached out to Ltwoo via Emai, but didn't get a response. Via Aliexpress I didn't find a "chat/message button" to get in contact with the "official Ltwoo store" in order to ask them those questions.

You might have more luck when writing to them via email in your language? Could you give it a try?

Are there similar forum chats in China about this topic?

Many thanks, Dennis

I will try to ask them. Usually, I can contact them directly through platforms like Taobao or WeChat, without the need for emails. However, based on the feedback I received from secondary distributors in the past, the new versions of the EGR did not improve the waterproofing performance. In special cases, it is necessary to disassemble the rear derailleur and manually apply some waterproof sealant. But such an operation may result in the loss of warranty eligibility.

Based on the experiences of my friends, they had to wait until the rear derailleur got water inside and caused issues before contacting Ltwoo for repairs or part replacements (mainly due to water ingress in the rear derailleur). This process can be frustrating, and this issue may not necessarily occur in every kit. I am inclined to believe it could be a quality control problem. Moreover, purchasing Ltwoo from outside China would incur higher post-purchase costs, both in terms of money and time.

However, there have been some software improvements for the EGR, such as enhanced logic for situations like stationary shifting and accidental button presses. As for hardware improvements, there is currently no information available.

China does have similar forums, but we are not exactly like BBS forums. We are more like Reddit, with channels categorized based on discussion topics, and the discussions tend to be more basic. For more specialized discussions, we usually rely on WeChat group chats, which are more closed-off but allow for deeper conversations.
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Thanks for Sebastian's advice and sharing your experience,
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: LTWOO eGR
« Last post by sOKRATEs100 on Today at 02:14:22 AM »
I was wonderung why both break leavers have shifter buttons anyway? Would only make sense if both buttons/leavers can be used for shifting the rear derailleur, true.

Are there 2 leavers for shifting on both sides or just one leaver?
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Sory for post my problem again but this is new er9 from Aliexpress, ltwoo and store from few days are off ;/ Total silence od ther side ;/

problem with er9 one of you have simillar problem (i have PM him).
straight road without any holes, and system go down. This happend with some combination of front from 1 to second and on rear and back. After plug charger system turn on (new battery). happend when i tried to shift both derailleurs at the same time??
Front from big to small and back vice versa.
Yesterday i have test it without gear protection in app (off) and while on FD move from 1 to 2 then all OFF. When gear protection is on i can change at FD gears few times and when chanigng in not smooth system of, this looks like some of protection?? In my opinion FD is quite good adjust at 2x11

Thanks for any help
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And you should be able to disable this crosschain protection in the app.
I set it up for 11sp…and sometimes it might be necessary so increase the values which are standard setup.
eg…for my edco 11sp I had to up the value of the 11th gear from (~) 1760 to 1840, so the derailleur was able to reach
the full range….
Since that initial fine tune I had not a single misshift or whatsoever on my gravel bike….setup with 46/30 oval 11-34sp
And btw….support very responsive!
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That's assuming that Shimano and SRAM components never have issues, which is far from the case. I wasn't really paying attention when the first electronic group sets became common, but others comment that they had their issues, even on race days. I would assume they still do, to a much lesser degree, though the rare times they still have issues the problems are probably more quickly and painlessly corrected.

Also, engineering and design missteps are still non unheard of for the big boys, as stories of Shimano's delaminating cranks caused many people huge headaches and even injuries.

But I wasn't talking about the upper end of the market. I was talking about the mid and lower tiers, where electronic geoupsets can really shine on a price/performance ratio, but Shimano and SRAM keep the tech walled off to only high performance and super high price because they have no real reason not to price it as such. Now, perhaps, they'll have a reason.

maybe true....but i have never had a hassle when quality problems occured with the big players., shimano swapped all the faulty stuff without a hassle, ....Ltwoo knows about all those issues, but keeps selling these faulty groups and generates more frustration on users and sellers side....with this behaviour, it should be a no brainer for them to help customers getting the group running...or take the stuff back?
in my base, groups did not work and no one helped or asks for videos...we are just beeing ignored..
i am doing chinese business for 25 years now....we started with ltwoo and big motivation to establish a brand against to big ones...at the end, it was just a waste of time..the mechanical groupsets work well, but with aliexpress selling cheaper than ltwoo to dealers?
It was just a waste of time.
DJI for instance had faulty stuff, too....all these items where collected and deducted from next orders..with this, we never had problems selling quantities, as we knew DJi will help....so the market had no problems with minor issues....these issues were solved within 2 weeks..and a plan was established how to proceed with the products on the market....
It seems LTWOO does not have the capacity to concentrate on these products as they are busy with domestic sales with entry groupsets....

Look at sensah...the were one of the first companies at the starting line....but they are way behind now...




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Hi,

I have a question for the current owners of this groupset.

I haven't installed the groupset on my bike yet, but I would like to know if your rear derailleur (RD) was stuck on the 3rd gear when you initially set it up.

Here's my issue:
- I can't shift to the first or second gear when I am on the biggest chainring.
- I can shift to any gear when I am on the smallest chainring.

For context, I am configuring the groupset to work with a 12-speed cassette.

I saw that a similar issue was addressed in a previous post, but I wanted to know if it is normal to have this problem if the groupset is not installed on a bike.

Cheers

That's cross chaining protection
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If this really is your first ever wheelbuild then you chose something with quite the steep learning curve ;)
I've been building wheels for many years. I started out with rim brake alloy wheel stuff mostly for commuters and urban bikes, like lacing wheels with hub dynamos and stuff for myself and friends. From there I went to building more complex spoke patterns and carbon wheels and so on.

I agree with most of your choices except for two:

A 2:1 spoke ratio made a lot of sense on rim brake rear wheels IMO, where one side took all the torsional load and therefore is laced in a 3 cross pattern while the other side can be laced radially (which is how the Ford factory did it way back on laced car wheels when they invented the idea). It made sense because of the drastic difference in spoke angles with the DS spokes being much further inboard due to the cassette. Ever since disc brakes, both side's spokes had to move inboard and the difference in spoke angle and tension isn't as bad as it used to be. So the advantage of 2:1 isn't really as big as it used to be. Personally, I stopped doing it. I do think that asymmetric rear rims with a slight offset to the NDS make sense to further correct the difference in spoke angles. But that's about it.

The other thing is internal nipples. I think it's not worth the hassle. Sure, you chose superlight rims so it might be better to err on the side of caution. But I think Enve's argument that this makes a sturdier rim is marketing bogus. What is much more important is that the rim bed is reinforced as a whole, which is the case with most carbon rims. And it's important that the spoke holes are drilled cleanly and accurately in exactly the correct angles, so as to not cause stress at the nipples and threads due to bending moments. This is the case with most well made rims, but I had bad examples from some Chinese sellers. Like you, I've sourced rims from various Aliexpress sellers over the years.

The aero benefit of internal nipples might be there. Honestly, I don't care. If you ever choose to run your wheels tubeless it'll be a huge PITA to access the nipples should you ever have to. Also, since weight seems important to you, it'll increase spoke length and therfore makes the wheel marginally heavier. A well built wheel will usually not go out of true. But there can be incidents like hitting pot holes in a race or whatever.

But like many things in wheelbuilding, this is just my philosophy. I think you did a stellar job and built a super impressive wheelset. Congrats! And it's a really nice feeling to be riding around on one of a kind wheels that you yourself built.
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Does anyone know of a high quality silicone grip similar to an ESI Extra Chunky?
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