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Now I glued the little metal plate from Shimano like this.
I don't think it will hold very long time, but the feature of the screw kinda works  ;D

There would be also the possibility to glue (2k) a little metal plate onto the hanger. But I don't know if that is necessary.

Wow!  Good job!  Hope it holds
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FYI - the ZRace XG calipers have been working fine at least for road. Nothing wrong with LTwoo calipers and they might be better if aero is a priority, but since I focus more on climbing I prefer the weight drop of the XG calipers. I've been using them on both my mechanical Ultegra and ER9 bikes with no problems so far.

My experience with the xg calipers was fine for the first installation.  But upon trying to rerun lines a second time, I found the threads to be very soft and stripped them trying to crush an olive.  That and the ability to block the brake fluid with the hose placement (shown in trace velo video) was also annoying.
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I don't know about it working perfectly without that stabilizing screw.  The screw keeps the derailleur aligned for more consistent shifting for longer without it rubbing

Now I glued the little metal plate from Shimano like this.
I don't think it will hold very long time, but the feature of the screw kinda works  ;D

There would be also the possibility to glue (2k) a little metal plate onto the hanger. But I don't know if that is necessary.
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With this group my first reaction is always this forum than youtube and last resort the manual. Think I've got my priorities wrong ;-)

I actually found the manual by Ltwoo to be fairly complete and helpful. That's kind of a surprise, I know.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild Quality Control
« Last post by RDY on Today at 07:58:02 AM »
I wish there was a dislike button. Who are you, and how much 1st hand experience with VB and other frames do you have?
Saying there is "no quality control whatsoever from velobuild" is simply false. I don't even want to argue, I just wish posts could be downvoted.

I don't think there is any.  I've seen numerous frames first hand from them over the past 3 years, including one I bought.  Half were absolute trash ... and looked like someone had been messing around with power tools when drunk.  Some were actually quite good.  But it's a lottery as to what you'll get.  Maybe the suppliers they use are now less stretched than they were, after the covid goldrush ended, but there's still no evidence that recent VB stuff has any QC whatsoever, as total trash is still getting shipped - stuff you can spot from metres away with just a glance.

Pre-covid, I think they were much better.  Now, I'd never recommend them to anyone.
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It seems only recent shimano derailleurs have this "stabilizing screw". Don't worry front derailleurs work perfectly without this feature.
I don't know about it working perfectly without that stabilizing screw.  The screw keeps the derailleur aligned for more consistent shifting for longer without it rubbing 
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Wendy did reply to me and tried to help we're she can. I really appreciate that. But she told me that there is only this hanger version. So I guess I have to go without the stabilizing screw and try to index it somehow. As I'm reading in other forum it is also like that to e.g. Basso frames.
It seems only recent shimano derailleurs have this "stabilizing screw". Don't worry front derailleurs work perfectly without this feature.

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Unfortunately I can't post anything yesterday. Seems like the Website has some problems. I still can't post pictures for some reason.

I was wrong about the hanger. It isn't screwed. It looks like 2.5mm hex but it is riveted.

Wendy did reply to me and tried to help we're she can. I really appreciate that. But she told me that there is only this hanger version. So I guess I have to go without the stabilizing screw and try to index it somehow. As I'm reading in other forum it is also like that to e.g. Basso frames.

In terms of internal cable routing, I finished that yesterday. With the right tools it was possible but not fun at all  ;D

I don't know if it is normal but when I turn the handlebar, there is a hearable rubbing of the cables in the headset area. Should be normal I guess, because the cables need to move somehow when the handlebar is turned. It's my first internally routed frame.

Looks great so far. Hope that front mechanical derailleur will work okay.  LC should really state that the bike is not designed for mechanical front derailleurs.
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it's also written in the LTWOO instructions manual that comes with the group, from memory.

With this group my first reaction is always this forum than youtube and last resort the manual. Think I've got my priorities wrong ;-)
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Agreed. And the 177 is improved over the 168. And the 268 is improved over both 177 & 168.

I wouldn't call the 177 improved at all. It's basically a non-aero version of the 168. Might be lighter but it's not an improvement in my eyes. The 268 is an evolution for sure but that weird quick release thru axle thing is a big step backwards to me. But everybody can have their own opinion. I'd still pick the 168 given the choice of all three.
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