For the Wing 20s, what spoke category are you guys using with your tensiometer? My deflection table has an entry for 'Steel Blade Spoke 1.2x1.9mm', which seems reasonably close. What gives me pause though is that, as far as I understand it, the Wings have a more diamond-shaped profile compared to traditional bladed spokes. (I don't have any hands-on experience with the Wings but should be getting some for my wheel build within the next few days.)

These tables with values for spokes are just a collection of numbers.
If you want to know how the deflection turns into spoke tension you must calibrate your tensiometer tool for every spoke type you use. If you only true finished wheels it doesn't really matter, but if you build them from scratch you must know the absolute numbers and these sheets with some generic spokes are not the best guide.

What have I missed? Have VB stopped selling these frames?

Feels like I have some reading to do

I'm not sure you can reuse the wheels.
If I'm not mistaken your brakes are also not hydraulic which makes it not so suitable for integrated handlebars.
That budget will only fit velobuild if you take shipping into consideration. But you'll need to add the bottom bracket, probably handlebar tape, new cables and etc etc. People talk ok about their 268. Try it or check the 2nd hand market around.

Did you take off all your spacers? Lowered the stem (potentially inverting it)? This will make u faster than switching frame due to aerodynamics. Triban is honestly not bad at all for what it is

Hey everyone,

I know these types of posts aren't everyone's favorite, but I could really use some help avoiding decision paralysis.

I've been riding a Triban RC520 for the past few years and have made a bunch of upgrades, like a new wheelset, changes to the bottom bracket, shorter crank arms, seat post, seat, and cassette, and switching to conti gp500 tires with cyclami TPU. Even with all these changes, the bike still feels super heavy, and I think it's time for an upgrade. 

My daily training rides usually involve around 250m in elevation and cover a distance of 27km.

Any suggestions for a new frame would be greatly appreciated, feel free to also PM if that's easier. I'm definitely budget oriented, so I'd like to keep the frame under 700$. I purchased the Triban RC520 in a size medium, but given my height of 5'8", I'm between sizes, and I should've gone for the small.


Frames I've seen around these forums:
Velobuild R265
Yishun R1058/Light carbon Light carbon LCR017-D
R1058
Yishun R086D


I'm not exactly sure what to look for when searching for frames, other than weight and overall geometry, but I don't have much experience so I've just  been comparing with bike geometry/insights and they all look within range of what would work for me?

Basic issues like this make lc look amateurish. Brand new frame design but with no di2 port...