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I am looking to purchase a Velobuild frame but I am a little concerned about the build quality. Just looking through Videos and posts on here it seems like people can have some pretty big qc issues like bottom bracket alignment and shotty paint jobs. What is the overall consensus on the frames and how much work will I have to do to get one rideable?

What specifically about VeloBuild has peaked your interested? Price? Geometry/Design? Paint Options? And what other brands have your crossed shopped?

This forum has years of information and use cases on Velobuild. Folks have made videos as well. More than enough to make an informed decision. If your research has still led you to the conclusion that VeloBuild has some big QC issues then it's probably best just to look elsewhere. Or reframe your expectation of what a $500 is as others above have mentioned.

Based on the feedback from customers in this forum, VeloBuild is very fair in their customer service. If you are decent with your hands and willing to put in a little sweat equity, the 177, 268, and CX002 are solid options for the price.

And welcome to the forum. There are more helpful people in here than not, and offering more context in your posts will go a long way.
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Frame shipping cost USD 106 (VeloBuild), while the wheels cost USD 53 (AliExpress).

Haha, yeah I agree, that was the first thing I noticed after taking the photo. The AirTag has now been relocated.  ;)

Thanks. Yeah so for everything shipped, you're saving a non trivial amount vs Europe. Applied to all components, it's probably quite a lot.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild Quality Control
« Last post by Serge_K on Today at 09:18:35 AM »
I have a Velobuild 168 and I’d say you get what you pay for. It was $500 for the frameset, you can’t really expect S-Works quality. Even S-Works frames have issues. If you go in with the expectation of a $500 carbon frameset, you’ll be happy and satisfied. I’ve had mine for almost two years and I love it. There are some quirks for sure, but if you’re handy with tools they aren’t an issue. I replaced the rear derailleur hanger which was a job but that’s just because I wanted something specific, the stock on is fine. My paint job has a couple chips on it but it was $100 so I find it hard to complain it still looks great overall and I get so many compliments on it it’s crazy. For the price they’re still very competitive.

Agreed. And the 177 is improved over the 168. And the 268 is improved over both 177 & 168.
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Personally the 25mm internal/32mm external rim that appeals to me the most is the Lightbicycle WR50. Has a profile that is a bit reminiscent of HED Vanquish or ENVE's SES wheels, more teardrop shaped than elliptical or blunt-edged.

Side note, personally I think the sweet spot for 28mm tires is at 21mm internal. I think most of the wheels that test the fastest, like DT Swiss, Roval, HED, run 21mm internal. I think the lead engineer for Roval made a comment in an interview suggesting that the trend for 25int/32ext wide rims is really driven by companies selling hookless rims that need more tire volume to work at a lower pressure.
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I have a Velobuild 168 and I’d say you get what you pay for. It was $500 for the frameset, you can’t really expect S-Works quality. Even S-Works frames have issues. If you go in with the expectation of a $500 carbon frameset, you’ll be happy and satisfied. I’ve had mine for almost two years and I love it. There are some quirks for sure, but if you’re handy with tools they aren’t an issue. I replaced the rear derailleur hanger which was a job but that’s just because I wanted something specific, the stock on is fine. My paint job has a couple chips on it but it was $100 so I find it hard to complain it still looks great overall and I get so many compliments on it it’s crazy. For the price they’re still very competitive.
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There are very fewchinese d2c manufacturers making rims like that. Farsports make some gravel rims that wide, nextie, lightbicycle. Though the profiles aren't the best aerodynamically, particularly nextie. Ideally you want the rim edge to be wider than the tyre and then the rim to ulge out a bit before tapeting off so the cross section of the tire and rim is as eliptical as possible.

As well as Farsports Hyper road wheels, LightBicycle WR series
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Great build - this is a great example of a value for money performance Chinese build. Glad to read that the build process was mostly smooth - hopefully the ER9 groupset holds up for you!
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how much does shipping cost for wheels and frames to Australia, typically?

Frame shipping cost USD 106 (VeloBuild), while the wheels cost USD 53 (AliExpress).

Your airtag thing under the bottle cage is screaming airtag thing though ;)

Haha, yeah I agree, that was the first thing I noticed after taking the photo. The AirTag has now been relocated.  ;)
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Reputation of spcycle wasn’t stellar already, now is even worse. I hope you can sort this out please continue giving feedbacks here thanks
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29er / Re: SERAPH-TANTAN Group purchase E67 electric carbon fiber frame
« Last post by Firon on Today at 05:20:49 AM »
Do you also offer the motor and battery, or will people need to source that separately?

4LEAF could provide all of them
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