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Title: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Jarne on January 12, 2021, 06:57:48 AM
Hi

Do some of you use cycling clothes or shoes from aliexpress? I would probably buy shoes, shirts, and bibs if they are decent quality. I really think 100€ for a cycling jersey is to much. If anyone has some tips for good stuff, please post them below
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on January 12, 2021, 11:14:51 AM
I wear these Spexcel jerseys: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32855060942.html
After two years, the colors are fading, but if I can't find anything better, I'll buy another set for this year.
These are great quality, the shipping is very long unfortunately.
And their bibs are so so.

For the winter, this jacket is great for its price:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32929006067.html

For the Chinese bibs(and socks), I tried some from montonsport.com, the ones at $80-90
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: theirishrider on January 12, 2021, 11:25:12 AM
Everything I have is spexcel!

The jerseys are great, the proteam bibs are really nice, I've got long ones too. The Gilets are good too. Can't beat the price. The Jerseys are at least as good as my Mavic ones. 
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Schumo on January 12, 2021, 12:10:41 PM
+1 for Spexcel

Rion (https://de.aliexpress.com/store/3511051?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.251b2e0eYY1Rt4) is absolutely on par with them, and has some warehouses in the EU.
Giyo (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32951719333.html) makes great gloves and shoe covers.

I think Santic (https://de.aliexpress.com/store/1686407?spm=a2g0x.12010612.pcShopHead_6024655.0) is on the same quality level with Rion and Spexcel, but I don't own anything from them (yet).

Racmmer (https://racmmer-cycling.aliexpress.com/store/1052221?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.251b2e0eYY1Rt4) is on the normal, lower quality level of AliExpress, but they have really nice colorful jerseys.

No experience with Darevie (https://cyclingwear.aliexpress.com/store/3103076?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.251b2e0eYY1Rt4) yet, but they don't look too bad either.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Jarne on January 12, 2021, 01:51:07 PM
Thx for the tips, what shoes do you wear? Or are these from the trusted brands way better?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Schumo on January 12, 2021, 02:44:34 PM
I ride the Van Rysel RR 900 from Decathlon.
Biggest reason I went with locally bought shoes was that I didn't want to wait.  ;D

And I think the offering back then wasn't really good, I remember ChinaCycling saying that he would buy chinese cycling if they wouldn't all look like crap.
This shoe (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4001250696801.htm) which is all over AliExpress for ~30€ looks quite okay, and I think it was released in the late summer of 2020.

On the other hand, tight cycling shoes are a different story to fit than somewhat stretchy clothes.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: tripleDot on January 12, 2021, 07:50:35 PM
I love my Santic, got a couple of bib shorts, a pair of 3/4 padded pants, a pair of baggy shorts and a packable rain jacket from them.

Spakct & Weimostar are also pretty good quality.
Pic below is a Weimostar jersey I own. PhP440 sale price is equivalent to about US$8.60-9.00 (depending on exchange rate). I got it from Lazada, like Ali-Express but handled by a local firm.

Just be aware Chinese clothing usually runs small, so go one or two sizes bigger.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on January 13, 2021, 02:42:46 AM
...Just be aware Chinese clothing usually runs small, so go one or two sizes bigger.

Spexcel is the same size as the European sizes.
Look at the comments, many people put their height/weight and if they are happy or not, and you can see the size they ordered.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on January 13, 2021, 02:47:09 AM
+1 for Spexcel

Rion (https://de.aliexpress.com/store/3511051?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.251b2e0eYY1Rt4) is absolutely on par with them, and has some warehouses in the EU.
Giyo (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32951719333.html) makes great gloves and shoe covers.

I think Santic (https://de.aliexpress.com/store/1686407?spm=a2g0x.12010612.pcShopHead_6024655.0) is on the same quality level with Rion and Spexcel, but I don't own anything from them (yet).

Racmmer (https://racmmer-cycling.aliexpress.com/store/1052221?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.251b2e0eYY1Rt4) is on the normal, lower quality level of AliExpress, but they have really nice colorful jerseys.

No experience with Darevie (https://cyclingwear.aliexpress.com/store/3103076?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.251b2e0eYY1Rt4) yet, but they don't look too bad either.

I tried Santic, but wasn't convinced. Poor fit and models.
They sponsor or did sponsor Wanty-Gobert world tour team.
So they must have some good things.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Matt_C on January 13, 2021, 04:51:42 AM
This is the best piece of clothing I have had from china, the sleeves are really nice. looks and feels like high quality:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32820258552.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.36664c4ddT2pL5

These bib shorts are my favourite from the ones I have tried. good padding, no branding and nice grip on the legs:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32919789025.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.36664c4ddT2pL5

Size is the most important part and in my experience can be a gamble. As Others have mentioned some brands use EU sizing and some use Chinese sizing, using other reviewers to gauge the sizing is great advice.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: bremerradkurier on January 15, 2021, 12:21:41 PM
These Bont copy shoes have been pretty good so far-weight is about 250 grams each in 42.5 including insole, the thermomolding seems to actually work, but the uppers could use some work; ventilation is so so while simultaneous soaking through very quickly in the rain.  They do dry fairly quickly when they get wet.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000274457092.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dDUmCED (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000274457092.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dDUmCED)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: RobertRinAustin on January 15, 2021, 03:26:46 PM
Ordered a Spexcel jacket. Will post a review once I get it.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: In2Fastbikes on January 16, 2021, 03:38:21 AM
At the moment using the Santic jerseys, shoe warmers and bib-shorts. All pretty decent and have used the jerseys for a year now, no problems. The jersey fit is snug so just check with their sizing tables before buying. The shoe warmers could be a better fit, I think the range of shoe sizes covered by each model is too large. santicshop.com (http://santicshop.com)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Nicoloc on January 17, 2021, 04:36:47 PM
Hi all
On my side, I'm wearing racmer for winter jersey and bibs.
I'm trying Xtiger bibs and they are not bad .
Else I've tried weilmo as I like the stupid graphics proposed  ;D
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Yunglord on January 25, 2021, 11:58:07 PM
I have the cheap bibs from Santic and Spexcel!

I'd say the Spexcel bibs are much better than the Santic not only in terms of padding but overall fit!

I also have some Pearl Izumi bibs and they compare decently to them!

I have a jersey from Racmmer from his pro fit line and it's decent for the price I can't complain!

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: don-wea on February 08, 2021, 10:06:20 PM
Just bought some stuff from Spexcel. Great prices, will surely update when I receive my order!
Anyone got a reputable brand of cycling shoes? Also a sunglasses supplier (with UV filter of course) would be great.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Jarne on February 09, 2021, 12:58:44 AM
I received a shirt of raccmer last week, and the quality is really good! Everyone of our group ordered from them now so we can all ride with the same jersey
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: theirishrider on February 09, 2021, 04:40:51 AM
Just bought some stuff from Spexcel. Great prices, will surely update when I receive my order!
Anyone got a reputable brand of cycling shoes? Also a sunglasses supplier (with UV filter of course) would be great.
You'll love spexcel, I just put in my 3rd order with them. I've seen rockbros on ali has some photochromatic:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000955468830.html?spm=5261.ProductManageOnline.0.0.7ae14edf0rlmZj&spm=a2g0o.store_home.hotSpots_6000092367014.2
It's difficult to know if they have UV filter... you could get them tested at a optician if you can find one with a UV test machine. That's the only thing that's holding me back from buying them.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on February 09, 2021, 07:38:48 AM
You'll love spexcel, I just put in my 3rd order with them. I've seen rockbros on ali has some photochromatic:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000955468830.html?spm=5261.ProductManageOnline.0.0.7ae14edf0rlmZj&spm=a2g0o.store_home.hotSpots_6000092367014.2
It's difficult to know if they have UV filter... you could get them tested at a optician if you can find one with a UV test machine. That's the only thing that's holding me back from buying them.
I tried already photochromic glasses from Rockbros(not that particular model though), they are slow to change from dark/clear, both directions.
And they don't get really dark either, just being a quite light gray.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Matt_C on February 09, 2021, 09:13:21 AM
You'll love spexcel, I just put in my 3rd order with them. I've seen rockbros on ali has some photochromatic:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000955468830.html?spm=5261.ProductManageOnline.0.0.7ae14edf0rlmZj&spm=a2g0o.store_home.hotSpots_6000092367014.2
It's difficult to know if they have UV filter... you could get them tested at a optician if you can find one with a UV test machine. That's the only thing that's holding me back from buying them.

Make sure to look at real customer reviews for the photochromatic glasses. I ordered a pair that stated they were photochromatic and had the word printed on the lenses but they didn't change at all. I then ordered a pair of "cat eye" glasses which are definitely photochromatic but like has already been mentioned they can be slow to change and don't change all that much. I still really like them for early morning 6am rides that start in the dark and finish in the sunshine.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Zrider on March 22, 2021, 08:29:34 AM
You'll love spexcel, I just put in my 3rd order with them. I've seen rockbros on ali has some photochromatic:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000955468830.html?spm=5261.ProductManageOnline.0.0.7ae14edf0rlmZj&spm=a2g0o.store_home.hotSpots_6000092367014.2
It's difficult to know if they have UV filter... you could get them tested at a optician if you can find one with a UV test machine. That's the only thing that's holding me back from buying them.

I recently purchased some of the RockBros glasses.  I took them to the local eye store and had them tested and they verified that they were 100% UVA/B resistant.  They are nice quality, my only complaint is that they are a little heavy on the blue filter for my preference.  I have not worn them much (it's still ski season here) but they are comfortable to wear.

I have the green ones
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000955468830.html?gps-id=6311502&scm=1007.24625.129096.0&scm_id=1007.24625.129096.0&scm-url=1007.24625.129096.0&pvid=3003130b-7be9-4374-8885-d1dd07afe293&spm=a2g0o.store_home.fullPieceDiscountPromo_6000108746678.4000955468830



I also order from Spexcel and so far have gotten 2 fake shipping numbers, so we will see if they actually fill the order!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: don-wea on March 22, 2021, 07:15:34 PM
I also order from Spexcel and so far have gotten 2 fake shipping numbers, so we will see if they actually fill the order!

I got a couple of bibs and a jersey from Spexcel and so far they have been great, they are very high quality for their price. However, customer service hasn't been great, I ordered an item that wasn't in stock and they didn't issue a replacement until I inquired about it.
I also have a pair of Rockbros photocromic glasses coming in the mail, excited to try them out!

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: benando on March 22, 2021, 11:25:42 PM
This is a review of all the clothing I've gotten from AliExpress. All prices are USD and I am located in USA.

Racmmer
Overall: Fast shipping, would buy again for fun things to wear on toot-about rides. Well-organized seller page on Ali.

1) I ordered a basic-level matching bibs+jersey set for $30, both in size Large. The screen printing is low quality and the material isn't so great, but for the price it's OK, plus the patterns are the best on AliExpress IMO.
The sizing is a bit off from normal. Jersey runs large, but bibs run small.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32866597694.html

2) Jersey in the "Pro" range for $17, size Large. Jersey does not run large in the Pro range, material is slightly higher quality, screen printing same low quality. Again, fun colors however. Would buy another.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001504835729.html

3) Winter thermal fleece overshoe for $15, size XL. Didn't get to use them last winter, but I got them so I could double layer this fleece overshoe underneath a windbreaking overshoe (Wisconsin winters are no joke).
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32726518090.html
 
4) Why do they use two m's in their name? That's the biggest question.

Zhuiyan & Socks Store
Overall: Holy jeebus I LOVE their socks. And for the price too  8) 8)! I will be ordering more socks to give as gifts to cycling friends. Downside: slooooow shipping, but this is expected by the Cainiao shipping method.

1) These "Team Aero" Socks. They have silicon grippers at the top. One-size-fits-all suggests size from 39 to 45. At size 42, I do well with these, but they stretch enough I bet 47 would fit too. Silicon gripper is very nice and works well. Fun patterns. I bought 3x and all are great.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001046132853.html

2) These regular cloth socks are the best cycling socks I've ever worn. Nice stretch and don't stick to my feet when trying to slip them on. Normal drying rate during rides. Super cozy and comfy, I wear them around the house. Damnit now I want to order more pairs.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001127032897.html

X-Tiger
Overall: fast shipping, well-organized seller page on Ali (always a plus in my book!) would buy again.
1) These bib shorts, which were only available for a short time it seems. Nice material, good bib, but a bit expensive at $39. Size Large runs a bit large. Wouldn't buy them if I saw them in a store at this price, but I'm happy with this purchase.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001221450936.html

2) This cap doesn't breathe very well. Cheap little item. Would be good if I ever had a short haircut in the winter and wanted some protection through my breathable helmet.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000179327438.html

3) These gloves in the thick grey for $12. They're OK, size M is a bit tight, not really good below 3 degrees. Not super breathable. To be fair, gloves are very hard to get right, especially for me.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32947162199.html

4) These Shoe covers, size XL (44-47). These run true to size. I sized up so they could act as overshoes to my other Raccmer fleece overshoe. Good material, waterproof, nice velcro and zippers, strong construction. I really like these. I would buy them again in the right size for when I don't want to double layer overshoes. A real bargain.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000269961357.html

ROCKBROS
Overall: they make some good shit. They're like the ZTTO of apparel and accessories and bags. Good for the price, not quite the best however.

1) These autumn/spring gloves, which are actually perfect for anything over 12 degrees C. Really good fit for me, comfy padding that isn't so thick and large that you can't reach your brakes in the drops anymore (looking at you, literally every western bike brand I've tried gloves from...) Would definitely order again and I would buy these for friends.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000830490651.html

2) Photochromic tint-shifting glasses. The fit and finish is very good. As good as any Oakley BS that's for sure. Will order pairs for friends as gifts. As some reviewers noted about the Photochromic version, the tint doesn't get super dark. At first I agreed, however with use I find these are perfect for cloudy day riding, because they don't get too dark. Also good for late afternoon rides when the sun goes down but you still want eye protection.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000955468830.html

Spexcel
Overall: Would NOT order from them again.

First Order
Ordered 2 short sleeve jerseys, 1 long sleeve jersey, 2 bibshorts. Only 2 items were sent with the first order, had to wrestle with them over seller chat and pay a $5 something or other so they could generate another purchase order in the AliExpress system... Gah I don't even know, that left a sour taste. Kit is good, runs true to size, plenty of other reviewers have talked about them already so I'll pass on the details

Second Order
Ordered 4 more items, got a fake tracking number. Went to chat with the seller on Ali, they played games with me. Said fuckit and asked for a refund through AliExpress which was granted.
I think Spexcel is super slammed with orders because of their popularity and they can't keep up, so they do the fake tracking numbers at times. Oh well.


Looking forward to trying Santic and Rion after the positive things from this thread!

EDIT: Are you having problems with your clothing zippers? Some sellers use good YKK zippers (or at least they are branded as such...). Some use no-name zips. Really sucks when a zipper comes apart on your jersey mid-ride.
A tip from me is to pinch one side of the zipper slider slightly (very very slightly) closed with some pliers. See "Tightening a Zipper Slider" on this REI page https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/how-to-fix-a-jacket-zipper.html
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Jim. 1234 on March 25, 2021, 01:10:58 AM
C$ 33.46  12%OFF | Ciclismo 2021 summer Pro team short sleeve cycling jersey kit Side breathable MITI fabric MTB maillot ciclismo  roupa ciclismo
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKcZ7kF
I ordered a few things from this seller last summer, really good quality an good finish on the fabric
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: theirishrider on March 25, 2021, 07:27:54 AM
C$ 33.46  12%OFF | Ciclismo 2021 summer Pro team short sleeve cycling jersey kit Side breathable MITI fabric MTB maillot ciclismo  roupa ciclismo
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKcZ7kF
I ordered a few things from this seller last summer, really good quality an good finish on the fabric
Really! Usually the copies are the worst! interesting to hear! thanks for the info Jim!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on March 25, 2021, 08:58:03 AM
Really! Usually the copies are the worst! interesting to hear! thanks for the info Jim!

I bought from Runchita(the same store) my 2 for cold riding soft shells.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32929006067.html
They have now two winters, the orange is less orange, but still great, and a very good price.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: impmonkey on March 25, 2021, 09:27:16 PM
Can anyone recommend some not so baggy but not real tight mtb shorts?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Aoiree on March 28, 2021, 05:28:59 PM
I got some custom jerseys from this store several years ago...
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32696058478.html

Came out pretty well and seem well made.

They made an initial draft of the design based off MS paint drawing and logo pictures but I wasn't quite a fan of the original mock up so I ended up designing the jersey myself (they sent me their template and I did the rest in GIMP) and they made it pretty much spot on using my design. 10/10 would recommend, also their sizing runs tight.

They did bike pants and other clothing too. I got some polyester TShirts made as well.

Think jerseys ended up being almost $30 each?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Zoc on April 07, 2021, 10:34:36 AM

I ordered a rion today, ships from Spain, hope it will arrive soon,
keep you posted

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4000782266714.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.34244c4dDwvhnw
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: tripleDot on April 08, 2021, 02:27:37 AM
I'm personally not a big fan of tight cycling shirts, I'm usually on long sleeves shirts, like this Columbia or The North Face shirts (see picture). But these are kinda expensive. I wonder if anyone here knows some cheap Chinese alternatives.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on April 08, 2021, 03:34:41 AM
I'm personally not a big fan of tight cycling shirts, I'm usually on long sleeves shirts, like this Columbia or The North Face shirts (see picture). But these are kinda expensive. I wonder if anyone here knows some cheap Chinese alternatives.

But...but... Flappy clothes is the worst you can do for your aero performances ;)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: tripleDot on April 08, 2021, 10:06:41 AM
But...but... Flappy clothes is the worst you can do for your aero performances ;)

I'm the "It's okay not to race." kind of guy.   ;)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: RobertRinAustin on April 08, 2021, 10:30:38 AM
I'm personally not a big fan of tight cycling shirts, I'm usually on long sleeves shirts, like this Columbia or The North Face shirts (see picture). But these are kinda expensive. I wonder if anyone here knows some cheap Chinese alternatives.
Check out Costco.com. They usually have a good selection of tees, polos and button ups in techy fabrics. Prices will be hard to beat even from China and you can easily return what you don't like.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Zoc on April 14, 2021, 11:47:38 AM
today recieved the rion Jersey
qualitativ looks realy good
sie XL fits perfekt,  pnly arms Arena a bit tight
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Jeroen on April 15, 2021, 02:19:37 AM
I own a couple of shirts from bicyclebooth. At first glance, the company looks Canadian, however shipments are directly from China and they're also not making a big secret out of that.
They've got some radical designs and could be a choice if you want something different.
As most of the times with Chinese fabrics: a bit stiffer and a more plastic feel compared to established brands.
Short sleeve shirts from bicyclebooth I find good value for money. Long sleeves are a bit tight on the arms but still ok. I wouldn't buy a bib from them.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Zoc on April 15, 2021, 06:28:28 AM
some designs remind me of racmmer on aliexpress,
still looking for some good MTB shorts like ion paze
https://www.amazon.de/Ion-Paze-Fahrrad-Short-schwarz/dp/B075GP6YZ9
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Schumo on April 15, 2021, 11:52:46 AM
@Zoc
I feel like MTB clothes on AliX are limited to fake Fox Jerseys and a single kind of shorts. I really wish there were some original good quality chinese MTB clothes.

Yesterday and today my first "quality" chinese Jerseys arrived. I went with Spexcel and YKyWBike. I love Rions bibs, but their Jerseys are a bit to plain for me.
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005002086622255.html
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/33027734282.html
I'm 1.74m tall and weigh about 82kg, I have a bit more muscular upper body, so I went with size L on both, and the both fit perfect.
Shipping was two weeks to Germany. My first impression is that they're both well made. The seams look good and don't make noises when you put them on.
The Spexcel Jersey is made with 3 different fabrics ("normal" fabric on the front and the back pockets, something more breathable on the sides, and the striped "aero?" fabric on the rest), while the YKyWBike is just some fine-mesh fabric.
The Spexcel has also a slightly "cooler" feel to the fabric.
The YKyWBike has a backpocket with a zipper, the Spexcel doesn't. Doesn't fit my phone.  ;D

Downsides on both Jerseys are the chemical smell, which should be gone after the first wash, and the length of the sleeves. They're about 1/2 long, I like 1/4 better.

 
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Zomb1e on February 04, 2022, 05:24:18 AM
Can someone recommend mtb short pants (not road/xc bibs) that will not be too loose? All what I see on Ali seems to be quite different in fit on buyers photos compared to sellers ones.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: saintrider on February 04, 2022, 01:50:56 PM
+1 Spexcel (Bib Shorts Great, Jerseys Great, Bib-Tights Thermal Winter Awesome, Winter LongSleeve thermal Jersey|Jacket Great, Gilet Great)
+1 Darevie (Bib Shorts)
+1 Cheji Jerseys (summer)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 00Garza on February 05, 2022, 06:50:01 PM
I'm a fan of Spexcel and LuBi. LuBi bibs did run a little small but they had a nice side pocket.

Don't think I've ever seen good mtb clothing on Aliexpress to be honest. But I'm an XC bro so the spandex is ok for me.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 1Sigma on February 05, 2022, 09:59:07 PM
Anyone want to weigh in on which ones have the best chamois padding?

So far I've only bought cycling clothes twice on AliX (excluding shoe covers)
One was fake Strava kit, which was ok for what it was. The chamois was not the densest though, which becomes apparent on long rides.

I got a pair of Tiger-X thermals. The chamois on these rivalled a pair of Pearl Izumi shorts I own - perhaps better. Hard to try tell, as I am comparing new TigerX against well-used Pearl Izumi.

All in all though, if the ride is under 2-3 hours, any chamois will do for me.  But after that 3 hour mark, that saddle soreness starts kicking in on thinner chamois.

Anyone know of any dense chamois, good for long rides?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kubabike on February 06, 2022, 12:59:01 PM
Darevie bibs with cyclamen coloured pad is my favourite bibs among others. Great fit, long to the knee, padding up to 150 km is comfortable. Definately I will buy again.

I'm courious of ykywwbike jerseys. They look interesting.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Zomb1e on February 07, 2022, 02:35:59 AM
Don't think I've ever seen good mtb clothing on Aliexpress to be honest.
This confirms my observations

But I'm an XC bro so the spandex is ok for me.
I'm an XC bro also, but now just want to find some more appropriate apparel for trailriding and bike park days. Spandex/lycra with knee pads looks at least strange :)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: hahel on February 07, 2022, 02:00:47 PM
Darevie bibs with cyclamen coloured pad is my favourite bibs among others. Great fit, long to the knee, padding up to 150 km is comfortable. Definately I will buy again.

I'm courious of ykywwbike jerseys. They look interesting.

After riding in a few years in spexcel jerseys where the zippers started to fail i orderd a bunch of ykywwbike summer jerseys as i wanted coloured through fabrics. I didn't get to many rides in them before the outdoor season were over.
Sizing were equal to spexcel, fabric is thin summer quality, sewing looks OK and and they use what looks like sturdier zipper.

Considering the price i'm pleased, time will tell how they hold up  :)

/Hakan
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on February 08, 2022, 09:36:38 AM
...After riding in a few years in spexcel jerseys where the zippers started to fail...
They changed the zipper, and have a better one now.
I found it less appealing at first as it is more visible, but it is sturdier than before.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Greenred on March 03, 2022, 07:13:49 AM
I ordered Spexcel shirts and a bib on AliExpress.
After more than a month and telling me they sent it (lie) they cancelled my order without any note nor comment.
Very bad customer experience so far, haven’t experienced this with AliExpress so far, disappointing.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Fat Larry on March 17, 2022, 08:13:48 AM
I've tried:

Rockbros: Commuter Gloves, black with the reflective strip. Seemed like good quality, i accidently ordered a size too small so didn't use them for any length of time but will probably order them again. They had a nice, moderate (as opposed to the 8mm - 10mm thick absurdness some Chinese gloves have) pad layout on the palm that offered some extra comfort but didn't get in the way at all.

X-Tiger: Long Bib and top. Again decent, chamois was comfortable. I don't have a lot of experience with spandex to compare them to.  If i needed spandex again i'd probably look there first but i've sold my road bike and am planning on mostly riding enduro and some bike packing trips so this is unlikely.

Dharco: Mtb jesery. Suspect it is a knock off. Anyway again it seems fine, the pattern was different to what was pictured so i got a refund. Going by this mtb jersey i can't see what they do differently to standard active wear. I haven't tried any other mtb clothing.

Arbot Gloves. Again fine. Not very pretty. Last about a long as any other glove i've used name brand or not. Thick padding on the palms that i removed.

I have some chamois underwear coming and am looking for mtb riding pants at the moment. Would be keen for any suggestions or warnings if anyone's tried any of alis offerings.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on March 27, 2023, 04:18:20 AM
(Hopefully) reviving this thread to ask if anyone has tried the newer Darevie stuff such as this jersey: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004492511606.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.27bf38da3mbYIR&mp=1
I'm incredibly tempted by a full set given their color options but I had a pretty bad experience with spexcel bibs and their dupont coolmax pad that absorbs all the sweat and folds when standing up to get in my crack. Not very pleasant.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: hazzer19 on March 27, 2023, 05:14:49 PM
(Hopefully) reviving this thread to ask if anyone has tried the newer Darevie stuff such as this jersey: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004492511606.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.27bf38da3mbYIR&mp=1 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004492511606.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.27bf38da3mbYIR&mp=1)
I'm incredibly tempted by a full set given their color options but I had a pretty bad experience with spexcel bibs and their dupont coolmax pad that absorbs all the sweat and folds when standing up to get in my crack. Not very pleasant.


I've heard really good things about their bibs. It's the next pair I'll try. Haven't head anything about their jerseys.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on March 27, 2023, 07:43:56 PM
The brands i've tried so far:
Raccmer jersey: They are "okay", pretty much what you expect from a decent aliexpress jersey, material feels cheap and it fits okay, fine for a commute but not on race day.
Spexcel bibs: They are "okay", i've found the leg grippers have quickly given up on life, the material is relatively good, the chamois is a bit short at the front for my liking but they are fine for anything under 2 hour ride - i just use it for commuting these days.
YKYWBIKE Bibs: Fabric is good quality, grippers are good, the chamois is better than the spexcel however not as long as i'd like it, only realm qualm is that it's a little bit short at the front for my liking, this is probably the high end of ali express brands. I wear it on longer rides and it's fine.
YKYWBIKE Jersey: The fabric is really weird, not like the cheaper ali brands but not like my "western" jerseys either, it feels like swimming clothes material, also no grippers on the arms. The fit is pretty good, I'd probably equate it to a lower end "serious" cycling jersey maybe something like a sportful?
x-tiger jersey: Shit, the material is really hot and not very comfortable, i never use it as it's too hot here to wear it.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: impmonkey on March 27, 2023, 08:54:14 PM
(Hopefully) reviving this thread to ask if anyone has tried the newer Darevie stuff such as this jersey: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004492511606.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.27bf38da3mbYIR&mp=1
I'm incredibly tempted by a full set given their color options but I had a pretty bad experience with spexcel bibs and their dupont coolmax pad that absorbs all the sweat and folds when standing up to get in my crack. Not very pleasant.

Don't have this exact jersey, but I have another and the quality is great. Also rocking about 5 of their bib shorts. Just picked up a pair of their mtb shorts as well. Very impressed
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on March 28, 2023, 01:49:30 AM
YKYWBIKE Bibs: Fabric is good quality, grippers are good, the chamois is better than the spexcel however not as long as i'd like it, only realm qualm is that it's a little bit short at the front for my liking, this is probably the high end of ali express brands. I wear it on longer rides and it's fine.
YKYWBIKE Jersey: The fabric is really weird, not like the cheaper ali brands but not like my "western" jerseys either, it feels like swimming clothes material, also no grippers on the arms. The fit is pretty good, I'd probably equate it to a lower end "serious" cycling jersey maybe something like a sportful?

I also like the YKYWBIKE stuff. They are getting a little more expensive these days...
Just make sure you check the sizing tables since they use mostly asian sizes... I made the mistake of ordering my normal S the first time and I had to give it to my 10 year old nephew... They did refund me and I ordered an L which was the right size.

The RION stuff is also good.

Just make sure you don't shop for the bottom of the barrel stuff... From 25-30€ upwards the quality seems to be OK. The cheaper stuff is crap, I made that mistake with my first few orders...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on March 28, 2023, 05:29:03 AM
I also like the YKYWBIKE stuff. They are getting a little more expensive these days...
Just make sure you check the sizing tables since they use mostly asian sizes... I made the mistake of ordering my normal S the first time and I had to give it to my 10 year old nephew... They did refund me and I ordered an L which was the right size.

The RION stuff is also good.

Just make sure you don't shop for the bottom of the barrel stuff... From 25-30€ upwards the quality seems to be OK. The cheaper stuff is crap, I made that mistake with my first few orders...

They refunded you for a sizing mistake you did? And there I was thinking I shouldn't bother getting a refund on a shitty saddle with obvious manufacturing defects.

Don't have this exact jersey, but I have another and the quality is great. Also rocking about 5 of their bib shorts. Just picked up a pair of their mtb shorts as well. Very impressed

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004802943684.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.2e7338da0SAYHZ&mp=1
Is it this one by any chance? I'm also considering it  :)

I also forgot I had another clothing item from ali:
I have 4 pairs of those Liteskin socks now (they are sold under different names) and i LOVE them, they've replaced my other socks. Infinitely better than my 16€ salomon socks that stink and ripped for no reason on the first use
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002852674400.html?
Strongly recommend them. Colors come and go. Love the wine red ones.

Does anyone know of an ali jersey that comes with a zipped pocket? It doesn't really show the pockets on the pictures. I don't lock my door anymore but I might need to carry keys again when I move out  :'(
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on March 28, 2023, 05:33:46 AM
They refunded you for a sizing mistake you did? And there I was thinking I shouldn't bother getting a refund on a shitty saddle with obvious manufacturing defects.

Does anyone know of an ali jersey that comes with a zipped pocket? It doesn't really show the pockets on the pictures. I don't lock my door anymore but I might need to carry keys again when I move out  :'(
Yes, they indeed refunded me :) I have since ordered a few items from them.

Here is a shirt with zipper: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804147644950.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.24.4ae918020Ke0Yu&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US
These are normal sizes. I even had to go for the XS size with this one.

Here is another one: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801876538448.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.34.4ae918020Ke0Yu&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US

Just compare the sizing to a shirt you already have and that fits.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: impmonkey on March 28, 2023, 01:48:05 PM
They refunded you for a sizing mistake you did? And there I was thinking I shouldn't bother getting a refund on a shitty saddle with obvious manufacturing defects.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004802943684.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.2e7338da0SAYHZ&mp=1
Is it this one by any chance? I'm also considering it  :)


Yup that one in orange haha
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on March 28, 2023, 02:42:21 PM
I wish they would skip the cheap looking logo's and the silly slogans on the clothes...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: coffeebreak on March 28, 2023, 02:51:42 PM
Like Chinese CF components, these clothes should also come with logo/no logo cheesy slogans/no cheesy slogans options.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on March 28, 2023, 03:01:29 PM
Yeah, those deravie shirts look great, but the text on the sleeve makes me never wanna buy it...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbike on March 28, 2023, 03:37:58 PM
Ask the seller before ordering.  I've gotten thicker chamois and no logos from sellers. Sometimes they will be able to do it.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on March 28, 2023, 03:54:37 PM
Ask the seller before ordering.  I've gotten thicker chamois and no logos from sellers. Sometimes they will be able to do it.

I have one of those socks https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004551193980.html because they were cheaper than my beloved Liteskin at the time and specifically asked the seller if they had some without the rapha logo. He assured me they did. I have rapha on my toes regardless.
The cheesy Darevie text also bores me but it seems subtle enough. Not like anyone will be able to read it anyway, I think I'll get a set and pray the bibs aren't as bad as spexcel
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on March 28, 2023, 06:03:26 PM
They refunded you for a sizing mistake you did? And there I was thinking I shouldn't bother getting a refund on a shitty saddle with obvious manufacturing defects.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004802943684.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.2e7338da0SAYHZ&mp=1
Is it this one by any chance? I'm also considering it  :)

I also forgot I had another clothing item from ali:
I have 4 pairs of those Liteskin socks now (they are sold under different names) and i LOVE them, they've replaced my other socks. Infinitely better than my 16€ salomon socks that stink and ripped for no reason on the first use
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002852674400.html?
Strongly recommend them. Colors come and go. Love the wine red ones.

Does anyone know of an ali jersey that comes with a zipped pocket? It doesn't really show the pockets on the pictures. I don't lock my door anymore but I might need to carry keys again when I move out  :'(
I've found aliexpress generally side with the buyer because they don't want to lose them, while they know the seller will stay on the site.

At worst you can just put in a claim on paypal, paypal basically instantly sides with you no matter what against aliexpress since i assume they are a "problem" website.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on March 29, 2023, 03:44:44 AM
That was months ago though (and I didn't have positive temperatures for months after the purchase so I could not even try it after getting it) do you reckon I could still open a dispute for the dangerous saddle?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on March 29, 2023, 12:42:04 PM
been using mostly aliexpress clothes for the past 4y so could say a bit about some brands.. I always try looking for those better ones, because the cheapest are trash after some months :/

Rion I had good experience years ago, but the newest stuff didn't had the chance to test yet...

Darevie I have 3 bibs, 2 jerseys, and a baselayer. All are great quality, the fabric is good and comfortable, the padding is good too, at least the models I have. This blue bib (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html) from them is really great, fit well and comfortable, it's beautiful also so gotta say one of my favorites. Been curious about this one (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004681951240.html) too and got it, the 'X straps' and the partially sewed chamois got my attention, but gotta say I didn't find too different from the traditional bibs

From Ykywbike I have a lot of stuff, bibs, jerseys, windproof long sleeve, socks, arm and leg warmers, gloves, thermal bib.. first, they upped their game a lot in the last 1-2yrs, I had some of the old stuff and the quality difference is very clear. But still the prices nowadays are good, although higher than before
This bib (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002105060541.html) with a thicker chamois and this one (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002620075484.html) with Elastic Interface are my favorites, the fabric is really comfortable I almost don't feel it, had 6-7h rides with them and all good too, a lot of use (1,5yrs weekly use) and still look like new
this new summer jersey (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004893716707.html) is a good example of the quality improvement, I compare it with my 2y old jerseys from them and it's like a different brand, better fabric, better finishing.

also got some stuff from Spexcel, their jerseys are really high quality too, nice fabric, different colors from other chinese brands, got this purple (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001221755650.html), green (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001170800931.html) and a beige (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002580418338.html) one, all really good
the bibs I got one back in 2019 and wasn't a good experience, one of the cheapest with gel padding and in less then 1y I couldn't use it anymore. I've been really curious about their latest launchings, the bibs look nice and seem to have a longer thigh length, but I've already got too many clothes lol

This is something that the other brands are lacking, the thigh is a bit short on most, after riding a bit when the bib 'settles in' it looks a bit short.. hope they start launching some longer ones in the future

also, something that I've learnt is that many times the cheapest items from each brand are not worth, you can spend a bit more but get much more quality with the mid-top products on these brands
the same considering the whole offer of clothing.. like I mentioned in the beginning, those 'replica' jerseys and bibs, and the likes of X-Tiger and other brands that are really cheap, I don't have personal experience but a lot of friends got it and it becomes trash really quick.

also worth mentioning, my references are some brazillian brands, which although we have good stuff here, are too expensive and the chinese products are same or better for a lower price.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: abedfo on April 14, 2023, 10:21:26 AM
Ive got some of the newer Spexcel stuff and my goodness its ridiculous quality for the price.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on April 15, 2023, 05:02:04 PM
Ive got some of the newer Spexcel stuff and my goodness its ridiculous quality for the price.
Do you have a link to these newer stuff ?  :)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: RDY on April 16, 2023, 03:52:08 PM
Do you have a link to these newer stuff ?  :)

From the stuff I've seen that others have bought:  jerseys still crap, newest bibs good - provided the chamois suits you.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on April 17, 2023, 10:46:39 AM
from the review photos both the jerseys and bibs look pretty good
the jerseys I have from them (linked on the last post) which should be 2022 models are very good and holding well on 1yr of use, only issue is like collar stretching up a bit, but it`s all good still

of course, it all depends on which other brands you're comparing to, but saying it's "crap" may be extreme.
one big issue with Spexcel is their communication is trash, all the times I tried I just couldn't hold a conversation or get the info I needed.. while Ykywbike and Darevie have really good customer service, in my experience

Anyone tried Swiftofo or Spakct? I've been curious with these 2 for a while, seem to have good products but low sales numbers, don't do promotions like the others

Ive got some of the newer Spexcel stuff and my goodness its ridiculous quality for the price.
From the stuff I've seen that others have bought:  jerseys still crap, newest bibs good - provided the chamois suits you.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on April 17, 2023, 04:53:44 PM
From the stuff I've seen that others have bought:  jerseys still crap, newest bibs good - provided the chamois suits you.

I did order two jersey without collar last year, and find them still great.
I tried a bib, for short rides it is ok, for longer not.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on April 18, 2023, 08:10:23 PM
A lot of these chinese brands have a really small chamois vertically, if i compare them to my nopinz or blacksheep their chamois are far superior especially if you get into an aero position.

I've relegated my spexcel ybyk(?) bibs to shorter rides 1 hour max.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on April 19, 2023, 03:00:49 AM
A lot of these chinese brands have a really small chamois vertically, if i compare them to my nopinz or blacksheep their chamois are far superior especially if you get into an aero position.

I've relegated my spexcel ybyk(?) bibs to shorter rides 1 hour max.

Felt the opposite on my spexcel bibs. They go pretty much from my tailbone to above my junk. A lot more than my castelli and van rysel bibs
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on April 19, 2023, 07:43:56 PM
Felt the opposite on my spexcel bibs. They go pretty much from my tailbone to above my junk. A lot more than my castelli and van rysel bibs
That's interesting, i'm curious what size bibs you were wearing?
I'm an xl, 80kg~ 191cm, i have a feeling they use the same size chamois regardless of bib size.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on April 20, 2023, 04:37:53 AM
That's interesting, i'm curious what size bibs you were wearing?
I'm an xl, 80kg~ 191cm, i have a feeling they use the same size chamois regardless of bib size.

Size L. 184cm, probably over 77kg at this point  :(
Chamois is 34.5cm from the top to the recessed center bottom. 33 and 37 on my other bibs, all size L.
I think it fits me pretty well, size is not an issue and they seem to use european sizes. My main issues with them are the chamois that splits inside your cheeks if you stand up and the aggressively grippy rubber bands that feels way too tight
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: RDY on April 20, 2023, 06:50:56 AM
I did order two jersey without collar last year, and find them still great.
I tried a bib, for short rides it is ok, for longer not.

All I saw had unraveling threads and peeling graphics after 1-5 rides.

The quality of stitching seemed way better on their more expensive bibs.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on April 20, 2023, 06:55:59 AM
All I saw had unraveling threads and peeling graphics after 1-5 rides.

Regarding peeling graphics... I had some success by removing the graphics from bibs with a hairdryer and after that removing left over glue with sticker remover...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: abedfo on April 20, 2023, 10:45:11 AM
Do you have a link to these newer stuff ?  :)

Sorry my man didnt see the message before, here are links to the things i have purchased this season and am really impressed with. Im 6ft 2, 92kg and i am an XL in everything

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004833728095.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.17.7e81180292r7mw
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002728072396.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.16.7e81180292r7mw
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005204472695.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.28.7e81180292r7mw
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004473354308.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.56.7e81180292r7mw
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on April 20, 2023, 11:29:05 AM
That windvest looks nice :)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: abedfo on April 20, 2023, 12:20:25 PM
That windvest looks nice :)

They have two versions, purely a summer windvest and this one which is fleecey and perfect for spring autumn. I've been wearing it nonstop for the past few weeks with a long sleeve jersey 
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: FullCarbonAlchemist on April 20, 2023, 02:49:16 PM
wading through the thread I haven’t seen much in the way of mountain bike jerseys and shorts (though I skimmed so I may have missed something)….any suggestions?

I see a lot of that ripoff Fox clothing that isn’t at all convincing (they add stuff like “HTTP” to the logos making it obvious they’re knockoffs) but I’m looking for something decent quality that is either legit looking like the various “Fasthouse” jerseys I’ve seen on Ali, or stuff that uses its own/no branding.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 00Garza on April 20, 2023, 03:10:28 PM
Sorry my man didnt see the message before, here are links to the things i have purchased this season and am really impressed with. Im 6ft 2, 92kg and i am an XL in everything

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004833728095.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.17.7e81180292r7mw
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002728072396.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.16.7e81180292r7mw
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005204472695.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.28.7e81180292r7mw
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004473354308.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.56.7e81180292r7mw

The review photos for the bibs show a chamois identical to whats on my low end Funkier shorts. Good for my short mtb rides, not so much for longer rides.
Is that the same as what you got?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: some guy on April 20, 2023, 03:26:50 PM
Sorry my man didnt see the message before, here are links to the things i have purchased this season and am really impressed with. Im 6ft 2, 92kg and i am an XL in everything

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004833728095.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.17.7e81180292r7mw
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002728072396.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.16.7e81180292r7mw
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005204472695.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.28.7e81180292r7mw
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004473354308.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.56.7e81180292r7mw

do you by chance know if those exist without the branding?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on April 20, 2023, 06:20:49 PM
... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004473354308.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.56.7e81180292r7mw

These are the ones I tried! The red one, and love them.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: abedfo on April 21, 2023, 03:25:51 AM
The review photos for the bibs show a chamois identical to whats on my low end Funkier shorts. Good for my short mtb rides, not so much for longer rides.
Is that the same as what you got?

It does look the same however it feels really plush and comfy. Better than the ones that come with the rion bibshorts for example.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on April 21, 2023, 05:08:23 AM
It depends on your butt I think... I started with the cheaper bulkier red chamois like you can find in the cheaper rion bibs. But the front of the bibs was too high, so I ordered other bibs with the thinner and more expensive chamois.
I had my mom adjust the front of the cheap bibs and switched to them after the chamois of the more expensive bib began to become loose.

Now I really like the cheaper ones better. I wear them on 5+ hour ride and no saddle pain...

But DO NOT buy those cheap multicolored chamois. Those are crap!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: abedfo on April 21, 2023, 05:34:18 AM
It depends on your butt I think... I started with the cheaper bulkier red chamois like you can find in the cheaper rion bibs. But the front of the bibs was too high, so I ordered other bibs with the thinner and more expensive chamois.
I had my mom adjust the front of the cheap bibs and switched to them after the chamois of the more expensive bib began to become loose.

Now I really like the cheaper ones better. I wear them on 5+ hour ride and no saddle pain...

But DO NOT buy those cheap multicolored chamois. Those are crap!

Those multicoloured things are a serious insult to ones derrière. Interestingly i run both my bikes with one those aliexpress carbon saddles with minimal padding, i find they are at one with my ass also.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 00Garza on April 21, 2023, 09:18:20 AM
wading through the thread I haven’t seen much in the way of mountain bike jerseys and shorts (though I skimmed so I may have missed something)….any suggestions?

I see a lot of that ripoff Fox clothing that isn’t at all convincing (they add stuff like “HTTP” to the logos making it obvious they’re knockoffs) but I’m looking for something decent quality that is either legit looking like the various “Fasthouse” jerseys I’ve seen on Ali, or stuff that uses its own/no branding.

Yeah if you search mtb shorts or mtb jersey you get mostly knockoff stuff. There seems to be one generic pair of shorts sold under different names.
The Rockbros mtb shorts look halfway decent, but no personal experience with them. The fast house jerseys look good. Might take a shot at one in the near future.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Condorman on April 21, 2023, 12:30:02 PM
Yeah if you search mtb shorts or mtb jersey you get mostly knockoff stuff. There seems to be one generic pair of shorts sold under different names.
The Rockbros mtb shorts look halfway decent, but no personal experience with them. The fast house jerseys look good. Might take a shot at one in the near future.

I ordered a couple of mountain bike jerseys from "loose ride store" a couple of months ago.  They fit me well and have been running strong so far this spring.  Their size chart was pretty accurate for me.  The weather hasn't been really hot yet, so I don't have a good gauge on how well the polyester knit will breath, but based on my rides so far in 70-80F weather they should be no worse than some of my other brand name jerseys.

I bought this tie-dye print jersey...because why not:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804597328306.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.3.36d9f19c6omY2r&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804597328306.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.3.36d9f19c6omY2r&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US)

I liked the jersey so much I just ordered a couple more from the same store.  Tracking says they should arrive here within the week, so fingers crossed they fit me as well as the other jerseys do:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805150253142.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.21.5de64507ctb9UE&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21US%20%2422.80%21US%20%2413.68%21%21%21%21%21%40210321b416820957647052255e5ebb%2112000032658014635%21sh&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805150253142.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.21.5de64507ctb9UE&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21US%20%2422.80%21US%20%2413.68%21%21%21%21%21%40210321b416820957647052255e5ebb%2112000032658014635%21sh&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US)
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804724149881.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.4.55aff19celGqRC&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804724149881.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.4.55aff19celGqRC&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US)

I also like the look of these, but haven't tried them yet:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804602057924.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804602057924.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US)

Another option, I read on a forum a while back where someone raved about 3/4 sleeve baseball jerseys they ride in.  I've never tried them, but I may order a shirt at some point:
https://www.boombah.com/us/product.html?item=598261 (https://www.boombah.com/us/product.html?item=598261)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Condorman on April 21, 2023, 01:47:57 PM
Yeah if you search mtb shorts or mtb jersey you get mostly knockoff stuff. There seems to be one generic pair of shorts sold under different names.
The Rockbros mtb shorts look halfway decent, but no personal experience with them. The fast house jerseys look good. Might take a shot at one in the near future.

For mountain bike shorts, some of my riding buddies use the Arsuxeo branded shorts and have no complaints.  I've never tried them mostly because I don't like stretch elastic waist bands, just personal preference:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832638012459.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.1.66261924VLc6Gr&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=6db5b925-5cc7-4a6a-8fac-6f16a5c59e1e&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3A6db5b925-5cc7-4a6a-8fac-6f16a5c59e1e%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238113%231998&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%2126.7%2118.96%21%21%21%21%21%402103244816820992240058690ef622%2112000021563385552%21rec%21US%212546784661&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832638012459.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.1.66261924VLc6Gr&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=6db5b925-5cc7-4a6a-8fac-6f16a5c59e1e&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3A6db5b925-5cc7-4a6a-8fac-6f16a5c59e1e%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238113%231998&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%2126.7%2118.96%21%21%21%21%21%402103244816820992240058690ef622%2112000021563385552%21rec%21US%212546784661&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US)

If you're interested in more of a brand name short, I just picked up some Backcountry "Second Quality" shorts for not much more than the generic shorts on AliExpress.  They've been great so far, I can't even tell why they're second quality.  I did order the wrong size originally though. I'm a 33 waist, and I thought their sizing chart showed that to be a medium size.  Nope, had to exchange them for a large size.  I have long legs and the shorts hit the center of my knee:
https://www.steepandcheap.com/backcountry-empire-bike-short-mens-bccz2pc (https://www.steepandcheap.com/backcountry-empire-bike-short-mens-bccz2pc)

They have 10-inch inseam length bike shorts as well, if that's your preference:
https://www.steepandcheap.com/backcountry-slickrock-bike-short-mens-bccz2pg?CMP_ID=PLA_GOc005BR&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&k_clickid=_k_CjwKCAjw6IiiBhAOEiwALNqncSwK_b72n8LyfnlfRk7IKjNwA-m6NkbkP5uHKPD9NDiikMN_zOdEERoCymEQAvD_BwE_k_&utm_id=go_cmp-795052476_adg-45358446630_ad-189327077725_pla-421016483676_dev-c_ext-_prd-BCCZ2PG-OLI-M_mca-115422057_sig-CjwKCAjw6IiiBhAOEiwALNqncSwK_b72n8LyfnlfRk7IKjNwA-m6NkbkP5uHKPD9NDiikMN_zOdEERoCymEQAvD_BwE&gclid=CjwKCAjw6IiiBhAOEiwALNqncSwK_b72n8LyfnlfRk7IKjNwA-m6NkbkP5uHKPD9NDiikMN_zOdEERoCymEQAvD_BwE (https://www.steepandcheap.com/backcountry-slickrock-bike-short-mens-bccz2pg?CMP_ID=PLA_GOc005BR&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&k_clickid=_k_CjwKCAjw6IiiBhAOEiwALNqncSwK_b72n8LyfnlfRk7IKjNwA-m6NkbkP5uHKPD9NDiikMN_zOdEERoCymEQAvD_BwE_k_&utm_id=go_cmp-795052476_adg-45358446630_ad-189327077725_pla-421016483676_dev-c_ext-_prd-BCCZ2PG-OLI-M_mca-115422057_sig-CjwKCAjw6IiiBhAOEiwALNqncSwK_b72n8LyfnlfRk7IKjNwA-m6NkbkP5uHKPD9NDiikMN_zOdEERoCymEQAvD_BwE&gclid=CjwKCAjw6IiiBhAOEiwALNqncSwK_b72n8LyfnlfRk7IKjNwA-m6NkbkP5uHKPD9NDiikMN_zOdEERoCymEQAvD_BwE)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: jannmayer on April 23, 2023, 10:16:11 AM
For mountain bike shorts, some of my riding buddies use the Arsuxeo branded shorts and have no complaints.  I've never tried them mostly because I don't like stretch elastic waist bands, just personal preference:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832638012459.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.1.66261924VLc6Gr&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=6db5b925-5cc7-4a6a-8fac-6f16a5c59e1e&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3A6db5b925-5cc7-4a6a-8fac-6f16a5c59e1e%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238113%231998&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%2126.7%2118.96%21%21%21%21%21%402103244816820992240058690ef622%2112000021563385552%21rec%21US%212546784661&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832638012459.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.1.66261924VLc6Gr&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=6db5b925-5cc7-4a6a-8fac-6f16a5c59e1e&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3A6db5b925-5cc7-4a6a-8fac-6f16a5c59e1e%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238113%231998&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%2126.7%2118.96%21%21%21%21%21%402103244816820992240058690ef622%2112000021563385552%21rec%21US%212546784661&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US)


I just got a pair of those off of Amazon. I paid a few dollar more but got faster shipping. They seem pretty well made and they are comfortable. The only drawback is the pockets. They have two zipper pockets on each side, but one is in front of the other so you can't use both for thick things. The one on the right is too small for my phone, but I can just barely get it in on the left. I normally wear size 34 waist pants and the XL shorts fit well.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on May 05, 2023, 04:58:36 AM
Sorry my man didnt see the message before, here are links to the things i have purchased this season and am really impressed with. Im 6ft 2, 92kg and i am an XL in everything

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004833728095.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.17.7e81180292r7mw

I ordered this windvest and it arrived a couple of days ago. Did my first ride with it today and it is really nice. A little bit warm with 2 extra layers under it for the 13 °C we have here but it was OK. I took a S for my 172cm and 64 kg and it is a tight fit but I like it that way and I knew when I ordered it would be this way since the measurements are on the product page.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on May 05, 2023, 07:49:26 AM
I ordered this windvest and it arrived a couple of days ago. Did my first ride with it today and it is really nice. A little bit warm with 2 extra layers under it for the 13 °C we have here but it was OK. I took a S for my 172cm and 64 kg and it is a tight fit but I like it that way and I knew when I ordered it would be this way since the measurements are on the product page.

2 layers plus a windvest for 13°? Can't imagine what you would wear below 0  ;D
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on May 05, 2023, 07:53:54 AM
2 layers plus a windvest for 13°? Can't imagine what you would wear below 0  ;D

Yeah, I was a little overdressed... I realised that when i crossed people with short sleeves :)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: impmonkey on May 07, 2023, 08:33:34 PM
I have only ever ridden Chinese bibs and shorts. I have been happy with the darevie stuff on shorter 1-2 hour rides but find them getting uncomfortable beyond that. I have a few long races (10+ hrs) coming up and would like to spurge on a few sets of shorts. I prefer bib shorts without the shoulder straps. Any suggestions. Open to Western brands also.
Was thinking about trying the black bibs ultimate shorts.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: MattL on May 10, 2023, 07:34:32 AM
I was looking for a pair of cargo bib, after reading some positive feed i've bought a pair of Spexcel cargo bib. I've only ridden them for some 2.5 hours rides but they're performing as good as my other European pair (Montura with Elastic interface chamois).

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005004787543041.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis%21EUR%2146%2C69%E2%82%AC%2141%2C09%E2%82%AC%21%21%21%21%21%40211b5a9616837218947831686e1c3e%2112000030486189770%21btf&_t=pvid%3A43f7812e-ab3a-4937-9feb-21a9ce7bd9d4&afTraceInfo=1005004787543041__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1683721895&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita (https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005004787543041.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis%21EUR%2146%2C69%E2%82%AC%2141%2C09%E2%82%AC%21%21%21%21%21%40211b5a9616837218947831686e1c3e%2112000030486189770%21btf&_t=pvid%3A43f7812e-ab3a-4937-9feb-21a9ce7bd9d4&afTraceInfo=1005004787543041__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1683721895&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on May 10, 2023, 07:38:35 AM
I was looking for a pair of cargo bib, after reading some positive feed i've bought a pair of Spexcel cargo bib. I've only ridden them for some 2.5 hours rides but they're performing as good as my other European pair (Montura with Elastic interface chamois).

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005004787543041.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis%21EUR%2146%2C69%E2%82%AC%2141%2C09%E2%82%AC%21%21%21%21%21%40211b5a9616837218947831686e1c3e%2112000030486189770%21btf&_t=pvid%3A43f7812e-ab3a-4937-9feb-21a9ce7bd9d4&afTraceInfo=1005004787543041__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1683721895&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita (https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005004787543041.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis%21EUR%2146%2C69%E2%82%AC%2141%2C09%E2%82%AC%21%21%21%21%21%40211b5a9616837218947831686e1c3e%2112000030486189770%21btf&_t=pvid%3A43f7812e-ab3a-4937-9feb-21a9ce7bd9d4&afTraceInfo=1005004787543041__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1683721895&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita)

40€? These are high end Ali bibs  :D
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Tijoe on May 10, 2023, 09:24:33 AM
I was looking for a pair of cargo bib, after reading some positive feed i've bought a pair of Spexcel cargo bib. I've only ridden them for some 2.5 hours rides but they're performing as good as my other European pair (Montura with Elastic interface chamois).

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005004787543041.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis%21EUR%2146%2C69%E2%82%AC%2141%2C09%E2%82%AC%21%21%21%21%21%40211b5a9616837218947831686e1c3e%2112000030486189770%21btf&_t=pvid%3A43f7812e-ab3a-4937-9feb-21a9ce7bd9d4&afTraceInfo=1005004787543041__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1683721895&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita (https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005004787543041.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis%21EUR%2146%2C69%E2%82%AC%2141%2C09%E2%82%AC%21%21%21%21%21%40211b5a9616837218947831686e1c3e%2112000030486189770%21btf&_t=pvid%3A43f7812e-ab3a-4937-9feb-21a9ce7bd9d4&afTraceInfo=1005004787543041__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1683721895&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita)


Long Travel Ride Road MTB Cycling Shorts?    To me, this means I wont be able to go pee for a long time or at all during the ride.  Never have liked this about Bib shorts.  One has to be a contortionist wearing bib short in order to relieve oneself!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: impmonkey on May 10, 2023, 02:22:51 PM
Thanks! I ordered a set of the Spexcel.
Also ordered a way to expensive set of assos........

Excited to try both
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on May 10, 2023, 04:26:14 PM

Long Travel Ride Road MTB Cycling Shorts?    To me, this means I wont be able to go pee for a long time or at all during the ride.  Never have liked this about Bib shorts.  One has to be a contortionist wearing bib short in order to relieve oneself!

It may not work the first time, but with some practice, it comes 8)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 00Garza on May 10, 2023, 04:36:25 PM
Thanks! I ordered a set of the Spexcel.
Also ordered a way to expensive set of assos........

Excited to try both

Thats complete opposite ends of the spectrum of cycling bibs lol! Looking forward to hear your experiences with both.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: MattL on May 11, 2023, 01:14:40 AM
It may not work the first time, but with some practice, it comes 8)
Exactly, the fabric is really elastic, you can pull the tool out without any problem.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on May 11, 2023, 01:19:15 AM

Long Travel Ride Road MTB Cycling Shorts?    To me, this means I wont be able to go pee for a long time or at all during the ride.  Never have liked this about Bib shorts.  One has to be a contortionist wearing bib short in order to relieve oneself!

It really depends on the bibs... With most of the bibs it is no problem, but I had some of a specific brand that were impossible to pull down far enough. They were just too high in the front (or too little stretch). I stopped using them, but after a while I had the idea to ask my mom (who like te sew) to adjust the front to make them cut out lower. They are my favourite bibs since she adjusted them :)
So maybe if you know someone who can sew you can do the same...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: bremerradkurier on May 11, 2023, 12:27:14 PM
It may not work the first time, but with some practice, it comes 8)

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Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Sebastian on May 11, 2023, 12:56:02 PM
Bought a complete set from Spexcel consisting of base layer, jersey and bibs. The jersey is fantastic. Base layer fits really well. Probably not the most breathable fabric I ever had. The bibs however are awful. I dunno what it is about the chamois. But I could not get comfy on my saddle in these bibs no matter what I did. I experienced discomfort and pressure. Rode my gran fondo bike and normally I feel super comfy on it. But these bibs made it feel like torture. I think I’ll see how these feel on my other bikes and saddles but for the time being I think I’ll stick with Castelli bibs which I know feel super comfy for me.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on May 12, 2023, 12:21:42 AM
Bought a complete set from Spexcel consisting of base layer, jersey and bibs. The jersey is fantastic. Base layer fits really well. Probably not the most breathable fabric I ever had. The bibs however are awful. I dunno what it is about the chamois. But I could not get comfy on my saddle in these bibs no matter what I did. I experienced discomfort and pressure. Rode my gran fondo bike and normally I feel super comfy on it. But these bibs made it feel like torture. I think I’ll see how these feel on my other bikes and saddles but for the time being I think I’ll stick with Castelli bibs which I know feel super comfy for me.

What bib was it specifically?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Sebastian on May 12, 2023, 01:03:37 AM
What bib was it specifically?

I bought the "Coldback Tech Pro Team" bibs, which are actually among the more expensive bibs. The fit is perfectly fine. Not a huge fan of the fabric as I like a little more compression. The grippers are good because they stay put on your legs. The straps feel very nice. No twisting or discomfort. But that chamois doesn't work for me at all. I'll give it a try on my other road bike. I got a Specialized Power saddle on there that I am usually comfy on no matter the bibs. If the sensation stays the same then I'm afraid these aren't gonna work for me.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on May 12, 2023, 01:13:47 AM
Yeah, I must say I find the cheaper and bulkier red chamois more comfortable... The thinner and more expensive ones are a hit or miss
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Tijoe on May 14, 2023, 04:49:39 PM
Heads up regarding WolfBike windbreakers. I purchased 3 in February.  The first one I started using, and have worn maybe 15 times has had the zipper fail.
I'll write the store and ask about any warranty or credit.  The sewing of the breaker appears to be good, but they use a pretty flimsy looking plastic zipper.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804822435710.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.3.5a63f19cvoTEr1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

 
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on May 14, 2023, 07:49:57 PM
I bought some ykywbike bibs and jersey.
Jersey is okay, better than the likes of raccmer, no gripper on the jersey which is annoying.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005121599635.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.31.21ef180208RuUj
I like the bibs for the most part but they have one major flaw which makes them pretty much unusable.
They are really really short at the front, as in they come to below my naval, I would not advise the bibs to any taller riders due to this very glaring issue.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Sebastian on May 26, 2023, 02:14:59 PM
I bought the "Coldback Tech Pro Team" bibs, which are actually among the more expensive bibs. The fit is perfectly fine. Not a huge fan of the fabric as I like a little more compression. The grippers are good because they stay put on your legs. The straps feel very nice. No twisting or discomfort. But that chamois doesn't work for me at all. I'll give it a try on my other road bike. I got a Specialized Power saddle on there that I am usually comfy on no matter the bibs. If the sensation stays the same then I'm afraid these aren't gonna work for me.

Update on the Spexcel pro team bibs: These bibs do feel better on my other bike with an SWORKS Power Saddle. But still not great. I could eventually get comfy on the chamois. But the fabric makes me slide around on the saddle much more than my other bibs which is annoying. And the chamois tends to bulk up in all the wrong places, therefore leading to uneven distribution of pressure. It’s better when I’m forcing myself to sit far back on the saddle and as much on my sit bones as possible. Also, these bibs seems to get comfier the more I ride them. Maybe the chamois “breaks in” somehow. But I wouldn’t trust these bibs for a gran fondo or a really really long ride.

The jersey is so good on the other hand that I bought a second one in a different Color.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Yunglord on May 26, 2023, 04:12:24 PM
Update on the Spexcel pro team bibs: These bibs do feel better on my other bike with an SWORKS Power Saddle. But still not great. I could eventually get comfy on the chamois. But the fabric makes me slide around on the saddle much more than my other bibs which is annoying. And the chamois tends to bulk up in all the wrong places, therefore leading to uneven distribution of pressure. It’s better when I’m forcing myself to sit far back on the saddle and as much on my sit bones as possible. Also, these bibs seems to get comfier the more I ride them. Maybe the chamois “breaks in” somehow. But I wouldn’t trust these bibs for a gran fondo or a really really long ride.

The jersey is so good on the other hand that I bought a second one in a different Color.

I've had 3 of these bibs pad fail over time as the pad bunched up in all the wrong places and at the end separated.

I've done 7 hour rides with them but they are not long lasting.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Sebastian on May 26, 2023, 04:23:13 PM
I've had 3 of these bibs pad fail over time as the pad bunched up in all the wrong places and at the end separated.

I've done 7 hour rides with them but they are not long lasting.

Yeah. I think I’ll keep on using it for short rides but I won’t get another one. It’s a bit of a shame really because with a better pad this could be a nice bib. The quality and manufacturing is actually quite good. Maybe they’ll update their bibs at some point. I get along really well with Castelli bibs and their pads. Those are in a completely different league compared to this Spexcel bib, however.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: hagerd on June 01, 2023, 12:22:35 PM
For a customer service note on Spexcel, I bought a set of cargo bibs from them and the zipper totally failed and came apart (unglued or just not stiched??) Anyways i bought them 5 months ago this was only me second ride with them. Spexcel gave me full credit and is sending me a new set. Pretty happy considering how this type of thing usually goes with Ali vendors.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on June 01, 2023, 11:00:19 PM
I bought a pair of DAREVIE bibs and long sleeve thermal jersey.

The top is really good, wear it in around 8-10 degrees and it holds up well, fits well, no stitching issues.
The bibs are the lowest tier i spend $26 aud, the build of the bibs are good and they fit well but the chamois is really thin and not very wide, i would not recommend wearing them for a ride over an hour, even just on my commute the chamois inadequency is apparent.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on June 02, 2023, 05:59:45 AM
I bought a pair of DAREVIE bibs and long sleeve thermal jersey.

The top is really good, wear it in around 8-10 degrees and it holds up well, fits well, no stitching issues.
The bibs are the lowest tier i spend $26 aud, the build of the bibs are good and they fit well but the chamois is really thin and not very wide, i would not recommend wearing them for a ride over an hour, even just on my commute the chamois inadequency is apparent.

Care to link the models? These ones?
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005561105339.html
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on June 02, 2023, 08:05:30 AM
Long term wearer of Chinese cycling kit, over 5 years ago purchased my first Racmmer and Spexcel kit. Own a lot of kit from Rapha Pro Team (probably my favourite to wear), DHB Aeron (my value for money pick), Pedal Mafia (my local brand) and a heap of Australian, European and Chinese brands.

I am hard on my kit, I sweat a lot, train hard and race hard. Did not always take good care of my kit, ie did not rinse my kit immediately after use and used  detergent with added enzymes. If I was lucky I might get 40 or so rides out of a pair of bibs before the went see through. Hence looking for value for money options particularly for my commute/training ride which was 40km one way.

I currently have 30 jerseys and 20 bibs of various colours (everything but white) in rotation. Calmed down purchasing over last 18 months as improved washing techniques have extended the life of my kits and I  am spending time in gym which is changing my body shape.
Quality of kit is changing, what you expect from high end kit 5 years ago in design, materials, constructions is common amongst the value end of the market and what was acceptable to me as budget kit a few years ago is no longer.

My experience with Chinese brands

Racmmer: My first jersey cost me $10 and came with laser cut aero sleeves and body that didn’t breath, great value at the time, but not something I would buy now. I find their base layers don’t breath and the bibs shorts don’t do it, cheap and nasty pad in wrong place, harsh lycra, minimal compression.

Spexcel: Had a bunch of their jerseys from a few years back, looked good, felt good, but they deteriorated fairly quickly, after 30 or so rides, badly faded, broken zips, saggy pockets, stitches just unravelling and even a tear in the material from use not damage. Most jerseys last me for a lot longer before I retire them . The bib shorts rarely got worn as they lacked the compression. Did buy some 2021 releases, the compression is better in the bib shorts https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002861130474.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002861130474.html) , but not the level I get and like  from other brands and the jersey https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002580418338.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002580418338.html) has survived so far, but probably only a dozen rides, but better than others. Would buy again.

YKYWbike: Love the atheistic of their jerseys, but realising they are deteriorating faster the most others jerseys ie 10 to 15 rides and they are worse that jerseys bought over 5 years ago with 50 or more rides in them. Bought their Korea lycra cargo bibs, first impressions great, so I bought a second pair with the Elastic Interface pad, but again after regular use (maybe 20 rides each) the soft, compressive lycra is a little harsh and lost some compression. Really rate their base layers and socks.

Darevie: Friends rave about them, but did like their style. Bought a plain long sleeve jersey, crashed and destroyed it first ride, did not care, cheap material poor fit. Also bought bibs, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html) , the pad is a little thin still done 100km in a pair, does lack the compression I like, the lycra is light weight which is great for summer rides in 30C/90F around here. Liked the range of colours I bought three, only downside is one pair the lycra appears to be damaged on a hip, no idea why.

Cheji took a risk on this brand because they were the first to sell coloured bibs on AliExpress. Happy I did, these are my favourites https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001939822272.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001939822272.html) have three different colours and the bright purple take a beating as my race bibs. Decent compression, has taken a lot of use with deteriorating and the lycra still feel good. Quality wise (construction, materials etc) like the previous DHB Aeron bibs and no problem on 4 hour rides. Have a couple of jerseys that have survived a dozen rides without issue. Only word of warning their pricing is unpredictable and fluctuates. I scored two pairs of those bibs at $25 each, current asking $50 and have seen them at $70. 

Monton https://montonsports.com/ (https://montonsports.com/) a level above the AliExpress brands, I own a pair of their Skul bib shorts $66 very lightweight, great compression, my bib shorts of choice when I had to do a ride in 45C/112F. After sales service leaves a little to be desired my shipment disappeared for 9 weeks in transit. Had tracking got to Chinese airport and nothing, negotiating a replacement was challenging process, then suddenly tracking sprang to life after 11 weeks will my shipment appearing at an airport on the other side of Australia.

Other brands, I have taken a few risks with other brands off AliExpress and generally been disappointed and I don’t set my expectations too high.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on June 04, 2023, 04:58:22 PM
Care to link the models? These ones?
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005561105339.html
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003399619877.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.68271802qVZ8gt
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003380362166.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.4.68271802qVZ8gt

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on June 05, 2023, 05:37:49 AM
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003399619877.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.68271802qVZ8gt
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003380362166.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.4.68271802qVZ8gt

I'm glad the bad experience on the bibs were not the ones I was eyeing. The thermal jersey looks really good, I'm tempted but what's with the comically small back pockets? Are they this small in real life?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on June 05, 2023, 06:47:01 AM
I'm glad the bad experience on the bibs were not the ones I was eyeing.

Which ones were you eyeing?

I have these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html) which I really like, though not for 4+ hour rides and these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001622154194.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001622154194.html) which are OK.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on June 05, 2023, 07:09:49 AM
Which ones were you eyeing?

I have these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html) which I really like, though not for 4+ hour rides and these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001622154194.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001622154194.html) which are OK.

The first one you linked. I don't really do rides under 3 hours so I'm skeptical of any "good for short rides only" reviews
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on June 05, 2023, 07:19:51 PM
I'm glad the bad experience on the bibs were not the ones I was eyeing. The thermal jersey looks really good, I'm tempted but what's with the comically small back pockets? Are they this small in real life?
They are normal sized, at least for me who just carries wallet/phone/keys and energy gel satchet.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on June 05, 2023, 07:38:38 PM
The first one you linked. I don't really do rides under 3 hours so I'm skeptical of any "good for short rides only" reviews
For a little context

I split my bibs into short (under 2 hours), medium (2 to 4 hours)  and long (4 hour plus) rides.

The bibs in question are in the medium group.

A short ride is usually 15 minute warm up, 60 to 90 minutes of intervals and 15 minute cool down.

A medium ride is usually 60 minutes endurance pace, 60 minutes of bunch (ie trying to rip each others legs off) ride, coffee and 60 minutes home with whatever I have left or 100 minutes at endurance pace, refill bidons, turn round and another 100 minutes at endurance pace home. The bibs in question have be thoroughly tested here. However, if I push beyond that ie did two hours at solid endurance before the bunch ride, the pad did feel uncomfortable for the last 30 minutes of the ride home. Same happened while trying to complete intervals after 3 hours on endurance (but then my whole body hurt).

For long rides I tend to stick to bibs I know will work, Rapha Pro Team, Pedal Mafia Pro and even then I tend to get pad discomfort after 6 hours.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on June 09, 2023, 10:47:50 AM
recently got 2 new pieces from YKYW
this shirt (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005005476142982.html) which the fabric seems a bit different then the others I have from them, nice touch and comfortable, good fit.
and this windvest (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005005333704015.html) which I'm honestly impressed. The fabric is light and comfortable, it has a type of lycra on the cuffs which help a lot with putting on/taking off, it's well ventilated but I still was well protected from the wind and cold (7 deg C riding with base layer+jersey+windvest, and all good)
It's a major upgrade on the old windvest I got from them (one of the cheapest)

it's just first impressions and still need to check the durability, but it seems good by now

YKYWbike: Love the atheistic of their jerseys, but realising they are deteriorating faster the most others jerseys ie 10 to 15 rides and they are worse that jerseys bought over 5 years ago with 50 or more rides in them. Bought their Korea lycra cargo bibs, first impressions great, so I bought a second pair with the Elastic Interface pad, but again after regular use (maybe 20 rides each) the soft, compressive lycra is a little harsh and lost some compression. Really rate their base layers and socks.
nice post and thanks for sharing the experience!
interesting take on the YKYW, for me it's the other way around, some of the best experience and like 70% of my weardrobe it's from them...

the shirts seem to loosen quicker, but still get 1,5yrs on them until it starts to be bad to wear.. but the bibs I got from them are all still good and compressing well, even after over 2yrs of weekly use

The first one you linked. I don't really do rides under 3 hours so I'm skeptical of any "good for short rides only" reviews
yeah, I have these ones in blue with the purple chamois (Venom90 it seems to be named). The quality is very good, and to be honest seems to be the best at this price range, fits very well, it's comfortable.. all good
For me it works really well for 3-4 hours, above that starts to get a bit harsh. But be aware I'm 62kg ;D lol
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 00Garza on June 12, 2023, 10:33:25 AM
recently got 2 new pieces from YKYW
this shirt[url] which the fabric seems a bit different then the others I have from them, nice touch and comfortable, good fit.
and [url=https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005005333704015.html]this windvest[url] which I'm honestly impressed. The fabric is light and comfortable, it has a type of lycra on the cuffs which help a lot with putting on/taking off, it's well ventilated but I still was well protected from the wind and cold (7 deg C riding with base layer+jersey+windvest, and all good)
It's a major upgrade on the old windvest I got from them (one of the cheapest)
 (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005005476142982.html)

Those look really nice. Might have to pull the trigger on one. Nice find!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on June 12, 2023, 12:26:31 PM
Just ordered this one. 17,5€ in sale (for EU).

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004802943684.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.45.2bab18024BFRIL

I hope I can remove the text on the sleeve with a hairdryer and sticker remover  :D
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on June 12, 2023, 03:32:43 PM
Just ordered this one. 17,5€ in sale (for EU).

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004802943684.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.45.2bab18024BFRIL

I hope I can remove the text on the sleeve with a hairdryer and sticker remover  :D

How do you get the 17.5€ price? I'm getting 21.6. Did you make a new account? This one has been in my cart for a couple weeks and it's always 22-24€
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on June 12, 2023, 11:47:53 PM
How do you get the 17.5€ price? I'm getting 21.6. Did you make a new account? This one has been in my cart for a couple weeks and it's always 22-24€
It is one of the superdeals at the moment. I also buy in USD and let the creditcard  company do the conversion. That's cheaper than buying in EUR from Ali
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: ENEP on June 13, 2023, 01:25:04 AM
Hi

I need new cycling jerseys for road biking. What's the latest word on DAREVIE and SPEXCEL?
Any other brand recommendation?

Thank you
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on June 13, 2023, 02:15:25 AM
I need new cycling jerseys for road biking. What's the latest word on DAREVIE and SPEXCEL?
Any other brand recommendation?
Only other AliExpress brands I would recommend Cheji  and YKYWbike (not so much for jerseys), go back a page and read my post for more details http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3121.msg46516.html#msg46516 (http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3121.msg46516.html#msg46516) I tried a  few more, but  would not recommend then.

As for Darevie never had an issue with them and all the bibs I bought in last 2 years.
Spexcel a few years back had problems with stock levels and delays. I have not heard of any recent issues and my last order 15 months ago was fast.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on June 13, 2023, 02:19:49 AM
It is one of the superdeals at the moment. I also buy in USD and let the creditcard  company do the conversion. That's cheaper than buying in EUR from Ali
I can indeed save about 50 cents by switching to USD but I'm still at $22.70 or $17.70 if i open a in a private tab for the welcoming bonus. Switching to a delivery in Germany saves another .10 Do you have coupons or something, or are there more tricks I've been missing all along?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on June 13, 2023, 05:29:07 AM
I can indeed save about 50 cents by switching to USD but I'm still at $22.70 or $17.70 if i open a in a private tab for the welcoming bonus. Switching to a delivery in Germany saves another .10 Do you have coupons or something, or are there more tricks I've been missing all along?

The 22.70 is indeed the normal price I also see when I go trough the shop itself. But in the Android app on the main page I these "Super Deals". Prices here are lower but most of the time the colours and/or sizes are restricted... The price I see now is 18.89 USD. There is for example an even lower price for these shirts, but only available in red or orange and sizes M and up. I need S so I could not use that. Price for those is 15.59 USD at the moment.

I am a diamond member, so maybe it has something to do with that?? They claim I get 15% off because of this status, but I never thought that was true...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Eddy_Twerckx on June 13, 2023, 10:01:21 AM
Anybody try the no name aero socks? At $4, that’s hard to beat. And they can’t be any worse than normal cotton socks for aero gains.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Crash217 on June 13, 2023, 10:47:42 AM
Hi

I need new cycling jerseys for road biking. What's the latest word on DAREVIE and SPEXCEL?
Any other brand recommendation?

Thank you

Just got a Darvie long sleeve summer jersey a couple days ago.  Seems just as nice as any other jersey I have in the drawer.    They suggested sizing up so I ordered a medium when I usually wear small or xs.  Their size chart seemed to put me at the very big end of medium.    The sleeves are a little long, but I think I could have gotten away with a size small though it might have been a little too tight.

I picked it up on Amazon as I wanted it quicker than AliEx could deliver and it was a couple $ cheaper too.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09L43XLBQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

I ordered some Kemoloce 3/4 bibs recently haven't gotten them yet though.
http://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804406107968.html

And a "no name" long sleeve jersey from "Cycling Goods Store" that I also haven't received yet. 
http://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804590407450.html

I'm looking forward to trying those out as I never seem to get enough sun screen on.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on June 13, 2023, 11:04:19 AM
I need new cycling jerseys for road biking. What's the latest word on DAREVIE and SPEXCEL?
Any other brand recommendation?
Take some time to read the last ~5 pages, there's a bunch of reviews and feedback about both these brands and YKYWBike too

From my experience, Ykywbike and Darevie are the way to go, more trustworthy products and good aftersales - I always can negotiate some extra coupon when placing an order (except over big sales, like right now), and the few issues I had I could work out through the chat and get some discount or gift in the next order.
Now, Spexcel also has nice quality (I have 3 jerseys here and all good >1,5yr of use) but lately I've seen diverging opinions, some people having quality issues with them. Also, the aftersales is bad, they don't talk much on the chat and the time I had issues (dimensions different from the size table) I could only work it out with a dispute. So although I still look for their products, I take it a bit more as a gamble than the others...

The 22.70 is indeed the normal price I also see when I go trough the shop itself. But in the Android app on the main page I these "Super Deals". Prices here are lower but most of the time the colours and/or sizes are restricted... The price I see now is 18.89 USD. There is for example an even lower price for these shirts, but only available in red or orange and sizes M and up. I need S so I could not use that. Price for those is 15.59 USD at the moment.

I am a diamond member, so maybe it has something to do with that?? They claim I get 15% off because of this status, but I never thought that was true...
yeah, the account level influences from what I know, but also changes according to product and color/size, there are very specific promotions
looking at the Super Deals page is always good practice, Darevie, Ykywbike and Rion have been doing frequent sales there with special prices, but also limited quantities, so need to be quick
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on June 13, 2023, 11:25:30 AM
Yeah, Rion has also some good deals. But they start at size S and I need XS from them  >:(
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on June 13, 2023, 02:03:15 PM
OK, TIL aliexpress has a loyalty system and TIL I am "platinum". I'll order the darevie when I'm sure about my size as it seems like the best price (by pennies) in months.

Anybody try the no name aero socks? At $4, that’s hard to beat. And they can’t be any worse than normal cotton socks for aero gains.

The liteskin macarons, sometimes sold under other brands? Yes, I have 4 pairs. They are great but claiming socks can be one size fits most, from 39EU to 46EU is questionable. I'm a 44.5 and they are quite tight, but overall the quality is good. If you are around 42EU they are probably perfect. Not sure if I believe them to be "aero" though
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on June 14, 2023, 12:40:17 AM
Anybody try the no name aero socks? At $4, that’s hard to beat. And they can’t be any worse than normal cotton socks for aero gains.
Yes, even bought a pair with matching aero mitts https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002581862276.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002581862276.html)

The look aero, they feel aero, they stay up, can't say how many watts they save ;-) and they have not help me win any races, came close though ;-)

edit I am size EU42 with shaved legs
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: bremerradkurier on June 14, 2023, 12:32:27 PM
Anybody try the no name aero socks? At $4, that’s hard to beat. And they can’t be any worse than normal cotton socks for aero gains.

Not cotton and an off label use, but I've bought six pairs of these Merino socks so far for cycling as well as a few pairs of the ankle length version for indoor riding and they hold up exceptionally well without all the disadvantages of cotton.

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/sarma-light-merino-socks/62850 (https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/sarma-light-merino-socks/62850)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: wwnero on June 14, 2023, 12:34:26 PM
I have a pair of aero socks from ykykw. After about 20 wears the silicone seems to not be as good and it does not stay up on my legs  too well. Could also be that I have hairy legs lol
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on June 15, 2023, 07:43:49 AM
the YKYWB socks I'd not recommend, I've got like 3 pairs - all received as gifts on orders of 2+ pieces (just ask and you should get some gift too :D)
after some months of use the fabric gets loose, not enough anymore to be tight on the shin and just drop to the ankle, so not good.

Spexcel ones on the other hand (also received as gift upon asking) are really good, nicer fabric and finishing, and are holding well over 1,5yrs of use

I've also got ones from the same 'sportspy store', with some kind of 'mesh' fabric (here (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/4001071983208.html)), these ones impressed me, high finishing quality and comfortable fabric, and are pretty cheap too

the Liteskins I've never tried, I've got a bit frustrated and traumatized with 'common' fabric socks (not the tight aero with silicone style) I've got in the past which got loose too fast - they were the cheapest ones too, so bad on my side anyway lol

ones that I'm really curious lately are these ones (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005005395385980.html) from GRC - they seem like a more boutique brand from China, lot of more expensive products but also some more affordable ones, not a lot of sales on Aliexpress (seem recent) but the website and instagram looks good
at this price and with the extra discounts, seem like a really good deal, unfortunately, I'm over my budget right now so will have to wait a bit to check it out (also I have too many socks lol)
the store also has some more aero options, and merino too, but much higher price point.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on June 17, 2023, 03:14:41 PM
In winter time I've bought one of the seamless Darevie bibs.
The chamois is more in the thinner side,  the padding is medium hard.

Since the chamois is always very personal... I like the thinner style, so I am fine with this. The Lycra fabric is nice, but it's definitely a thin summer fabric, the sewing quality is good.
The leg finish is nice, the silicone grid inside is very broad, which I like.
I did some 100 miles rides on Zwift with it  ;). The legs were my largest problem. ;D

Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! 30,88€  57%OFF | DAREVIE Men's Cycling Bretelle Seamless Men Cycling Shorts 6H 500KM Ride Men's Cycling Bib Shorts Pro Men's Cycling Shorts Women
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EupLGzJ

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on June 17, 2023, 03:46:03 PM
...
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EupLGzJ

I purchased two pairs, my first first into non-black bibs and wow!
Even on long rides.
Bought another two and now, I only ride with these.
The only issue is that the S size are two cm short on the leg for me.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on June 18, 2023, 12:24:30 AM
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005368937229.html

$15. Just not on the official store. It was the color I wanted, I'm risking it.
Also buying the bibs from the official darevie store, both have been sitting in my carts for months.
No sizing guide, I'm usually a size L bibs size M jersey, 1m84/75kg. Referred to comments and got both in L
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on June 18, 2023, 04:54:34 AM
No sizing guide, I'm usually a size L bibs size M jersey, 1m84/75kg. Referred to comments and got both in L
I am 184cm 77kg and you got the right size of bibs in my opinion (I own 3, about to be 4 pairs)
No experience with that jersey, my only Darvie jersey was L and probably size to big for me with 95cm chest
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on June 18, 2023, 02:32:09 PM
The only issue is that the S size are two cm short on the leg for me.
I find that with all chinese brands the leg is always shorter than it should
I'm yet to find a model with longer legs, most fit ok when you put on, but when you start to move they get too short

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005368937229.html
$15. Just not on the official store. It was the color I wanted, I'm risking it.
Also buying the bibs from the official darevie store, both have been sitting in my carts for months.
No sizing guide, I'm usually a size L bibs size M jersey, 1m84/75kg. Referred to comments and got both in L
this 'Manufacturer direct' store, afaik, is for special sales on Aliexpress. Stores offer a limited quantity of certain products at a special price through these links, also because if you get to X amount on these sales items you have free shipping and other advantages. Should be safe.

about sizing, I'm 1.73m/63kg and from Darevie I'm a M size bibs, S size jersey.. but my thighs are a bit big for my weight, so I believe you should be ok on that size, just probably short on leg length
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 00Garza on June 24, 2023, 08:59:03 AM
Long term review on my Spexcel cargo bibs. They chamois is garbage. Ok for shorter rides, but can't really find a comfortable spot on the saddle. Fine with my other bibs or shorts. The jersey that came with the set is actually really good though.

The LuBi bib I have is actually pretty good. Used it on long gravel rides and it works well for me.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805126180622.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.9.420b14034RH7pt&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%21US%20%2477.37%21US%20%2430.95%21%21%21%21%21%402103223416876149979067945e3316%2112000032590642636%21sh%21US%210&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa


Question. Anyone tried any kind of sun sleeves from Aliexpress. Don't want to have to bathe in sunblock for every ride in the summer.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on June 24, 2023, 09:07:27 AM
I have aonijie sun sleeves. They work really well on and off the bike, they are just a little tight as I think there is just one size. Shame the color really clashes with my jerseys
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: MattL on June 26, 2023, 08:43:32 AM
Long term review on my Spexcel cargo bibs. They chamois is garbage. Ok for shorter rides, but can't really find a comfortable spot on the saddle. Fine with my other bibs or shorts. The jersey that came with the set is actually really good though.

The LuBi bib I have is actually pretty good. Used it on long gravel rides and it works well for me.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805126180622.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.9.420b14034RH7pt&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%21US%20%2477.37%21US%20%2430.95%21%21%21%21%21%402103223416876149979067945e3316%2112000032590642636%21sh%21US%210&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa


Question. Anyone tried any kind of sun sleeves from Aliexpress. Don't want to have to bathe in sunblock for every ride in the summer.

Which pair of Spexcel are you talking about?

Today i've received the Darevie jersey, for 15€ it seems pretty good, i'm 180x76kg and the XXL fits me perfectly (i don't like super tight jersey).
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on June 26, 2023, 08:56:50 AM
Which pair of Spexcel are you talking about?

Today i've received the Darevie jersey, for 15€ it seems pretty good, i'm 180x76kg and the XXL fits me perfectly (i don't like super tight jersey).

I also received my Deravie jersey today. I ordered an S and it is tight (around the waist) for my 172cm/63kg. I like tight jerseys and have a problem finding something that is tight enough since I have lost weight because of the cycling...

Edit: tried to remove the text on the sleeves of the jersey with heat and with sticker remover, but it did not work :( I was hoping that I would be able to remove them since I find them way to tacky... So these will be for my solo rides I'm afraid...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 00Garza on June 26, 2023, 09:56:05 AM
Which pair of Spexcel are you talking about?

Today i've received the Darevie jersey, for 15€ it seems pretty good, i'm 180x76kg and the XXL fits me perfectly (i don't like super tight jersey).

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832693750021.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.100.4b4318023x46Xi&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

Its a well made bib. Chamois just didn't work for me at all.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Avalius on June 27, 2023, 04:17:39 AM
Anyone has a recommendation for custom team wear on Ali?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Serge_K on June 27, 2023, 07:29:28 AM
Anyone has a recommendation for custom team wear on Ali?

I'm in Europe. Years ago i got team kit done in Portugal, still wearing their stuff, can't fault the quality. carvalhocustom.com. Idk if they're still in business, the website looks dated AF. The whole kit is years later as if it were new.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on June 27, 2023, 07:56:11 AM
Anyone has a recommendation for custom team wear on Ali?
I think YKYWBike does customs, it could be a good option, considering it's a known brand with good feedback
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Crash217 on June 27, 2023, 02:00:24 PM
Recently received review;

For context I 5'5"/165cm and 123lbs/56kg.

I ordered an XS size, the bibs are a little tighter than expected and shockingly the chamois liner actually sits very far forward (I usually find chamois to fit too far back/up).  So some pulling/adjusting is required as I sit on the seat.  Once positioned, the chamois gel pads/pockets are VERY THICK and noticeable.  Maybe this will lessen over time?

I ordered an XS size in the jersey and the jersey is just fine.  Similar thickness and stretch to any of my other jerseys except compared to a Darevie summer jersey that is beyond belief light/thin.

Kemoloce 3/4 bibs.
http://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804406107968.html


"no name" long sleeve jersey from "Cycling Goods Store".
http://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804590407450.html

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on June 27, 2023, 06:51:39 PM
 :-\ although i pretty much liked the quality of Spexcel.. I can't recommend ordering there anymore.


I ordered 2 thermal Jerseys  in XS. I do already possess one thermal jersey in XS, and a XL one is also here. The new ordered XS were supposed to be a little tighter than the one I already have.

One XS jersey was much too large. The XL jersey is the same model, so I just measured the lengths of both and looked it up in the sizing chart.. the XL was perfectly fitting the chart measurements whereas the "XS" corresponded to M instead.
Putting all 3 thermal jerseys together I could also see, that the pseudo XS was just in the middle between XS and XL.. so: M
I guess the label had been ironed in just wrong. Mistakes can happen. I got into contact with the seller to solve the issue. He ir she just refused everything and blamed me to be stupid.
I opened a dispute.. and Ali believed me more than Spexcel.

The second jersey that i ordered in XS is in fact XS (hooray) but the sewing quality is bad. Along the seams the needles created little holes in the fabric. These holes will get larger..I know this problem, it can happen because of wrong needles in the serger or to blunt / or to sharp needles.


Although the stuff i have currently (besides the jacket with the holes) is nice , I won't order again at Spexcel. It's just not worthy to have a roulette game regarding sizes. And then there was the bad reaction from the seller also. Mistakes happen.. but if they happen and the reaction is like this...
I can spend my money somewhere else!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on June 27, 2023, 07:29:41 PM
Although the stuff i have currently (besides the jacket with the holes) is nice , I won't order again at Spexcel. It's just not worthy to have a roulette game regarding sizes. And then there was the bad reaction from the seller also. Mistakes happen.. but if they happen and the reaction is like this...
I can spend my money somewhere else!
I think I already shared here my experience with Spexcel, but somewhat similar...

got a jersey which was an XS instead of an 'S' according to size table, managed to get refund but the seller communication was no good. I ended up getting 2 other jerseys from them, which I got a very nice price and decided to take the risk, those were very good and size according to table
but the times I tried to talk with the seller about products, clear doubts about details, it's not good (and not only language barrier, like I get with most stores on AliEx)

so the feeling is the same, I prefer to spend my money somewhere else
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on June 28, 2023, 02:49:17 AM
I think I already shared here my experience with Spexcel, but somewhat similar...

got a jersey which was an XS instead of an 'S' according to size table, managed to get refund but the seller communication was no good. I ended up getting 2 other jerseys from them, which I got a very nice price and decided to take the risk, those were very good and size according to table
but the times I tried to talk with the seller about products, clear doubts about details, it's not good (and not only language barrier, like I get with most stores on AliEx)

so the feeling is the same, I prefer to spend my money somewhere else

Well yes I had the feeling that the person on the other side had no language issues. He or she was just really rude.
They must have a quality problem in the labelling step .. if you had the same issue,  wrongly labelled.

The sad story...I really wanted this jacket  :'(. I didn't want it for free and also I didn't want to have something that is pretty much too large to wear. I really like my first jacket,  it's a great fabric.I wanted to have a second one  :o
But since the seller doesn't allow me to buy again... and basically I agree because I don't like to order in a roulette style, I must look for something else.  :(
Thermal jacket ... wind shielding, very thin fabric,  "pearly" appearance with "satin" shine and on the inner side thermal fleece.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on June 28, 2023, 07:09:12 AM
so, received this last week this new gillet (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005005616124620.html) from YKYW
it's not all 'seamless' as sold, but it indeed has the seams covered on the most exposed areas. Fabric is thin, really light, and comfortable. I've folded it when riding to put on the back pocket and got impressed at the small size of it.

now YKYW just launched some new colored jerseys, very different from the 'common' offers
I need to control myself. lol. I'm not riding a lot outside these last months, and just can't handle the current amount of clothing I have, still I'm buying more. lol

The sad story...I really wanted this jacket  :'(. I didn't want it for free and also I didn't want to have something that is pretty much too large to wear. I really like my first jacket,  it's a great fabric.I wanted to have a second one  :o
try taking a look at YKYWB portfolio, on the beginning they seemed to mimic Spexcel's offers so it's possible they have a similar product
I have a thermal bib from them and really like it, comfortable, and it's a thin fleeced fabric
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on June 28, 2023, 12:26:42 PM
Received the darevie set this morning
( https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html and https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005368937229.html )
The stitching is flawless on both, I cannot fault them. Great quality.
As mentioned above I am 184ish cm for 75ish kg, I usually wear size M jersey and L bibs on western brands, but ordered both in L after taking a couple references.
The bibs have shoulder straps that are a little tight for me, and the straps are an interesting material that feels a little bit like the thick paper used in wrapping, but mesh. They are on the tighter end of the spectrum for my liking.
The jersey has pockets that sit very high as opposed to my castelli/dhb jerseys with pockets at the very bottom, they even sag on the castelli. They don't feel as deep and they are tighter, having glasses in them was a little uncomfortable compared to what I'm used to. Size L is still very tight for me, I suppose this is what they call "race fit".
Gave both a quick wash and took them on an hour long climb test and while this is too early to say if I love them, it has in the past been enough to say I didn't like some bibs. The issues with the overly tight gripper, itchy straps and pad that gets in my crack when I stand up on my spexcel bibs were not present. I also just hit my best ever 20min power 3 days after my first 200km  8) Hopefully signs of more good things to come.
My biggest issue with them was the jersey pockets, but otherwise the quality is encouraging. I would probably just go up a size for the jersey for (and not "if") my next order
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: MattL on June 29, 2023, 07:44:31 AM
Anyone has a recommendation for custom team wear on Ali?
Darevie has the "custom service" page on its website.

Received the darevie set this morning
( https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html and https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005368937229.html )
The stitching is flawless on both, I cannot fault them. Great quality.
[...] my next order

Is it me or the links are not working?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on June 29, 2023, 07:46:28 AM
Darevie has the "custom service" page on its website.

Is it me or the links are not working?

It's you.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on June 29, 2023, 10:03:03 AM
Darevie has the "custom service" page on its website.

Is it me or the links are not working?
Most links at chinertown to Ali do not work for me. Is it because of Europe /USA ?  :o
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 00Garza on June 29, 2023, 10:10:20 AM
Most links at chinertown to Ali do not work for me. Is it because of Europe /USA ?  :o

If using a laptop web browser I have to copy the link and manually paste it in a new tab or window. If using my mobile I have to press and hold on the link and use the "open with Aliexpress" feature.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on June 29, 2023, 10:13:52 AM
so, received this last week this new gillet (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005005616124620.html) from YKYW
it's not all 'seamless' as sold, but it indeed has the seams covered on the most exposed areas. Fabric is thin, really light, and comfortable. I've folded it when riding to put on the back pocket and got impressed at the small size of it.

now YKYW just launched some new colored jerseys, very different from the 'common' offers
I need to control myself. lol. I'm not riding a lot outside these last months, and just can't handle the current amount of clothing I have, still I'm buying more. lol
try taking a look at YKYWB portfolio, on the beginning they seemed to mimic Spexcel's offers so it's possible they have a similar product
I have a thermal bib from them and really like it, comfortable, and it's a thin fleeced fabric


They definitely look very close, I guess the fabric is somewhat very special. All good things come to an end ...I must just mentally accept that I won't get exactly the same again  ;D
I also liked the winter fleece from Racmmer for the every day commute and their very nice designs,definitely a really good value for the very low price..... since 2 years Racmmer is not selling anymore to Germany.  ::) Then I found Spexcel.. and now I must move on again.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Gareth79 on August 04, 2023, 09:34:09 AM
I've been looking at the various brands recently, and my conclusions just from looking at the photos/reviews on Aliexpress seem to mirror people's actual experiences.

One issue is that I am tall (183cm) but pretty slim (86cm chest, 80cm waist, ish), so things come up short as they are, and the Chinese patterns seem to be slightly behind Western fashion of longer legged shorts.

One notable exception seems to be Spexcel? In the item and review photos of this product the legs seem to be cut almost too long? The caption says the model is 180cm and wears size S, but the leg grippers are almost loose at their knees!

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005343407124.html
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on August 04, 2023, 10:49:28 AM
One notable exception seems to be Spexcel? In the item and review photos of this product the legs seem to be cut almost too long? The caption says the model is 180cm and wears size S, but the leg grippers are almost loose at their knees!
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005343407124.html
always take descriptions of chinese stores with a grain of salt
and always look for reviews with photos and detailed information, those are more trustworthy
these are 2 of the main things I learned in the 5+ years buying stuff from Aliex

on that case of the Spexcel Bib, there's a reviewer 1.80m/80kg who ordered M and the bibs are slightly shorter than the model on the photos (which would be wearing S)
another guy 1.80/72kg also with M size and this time the bib seems to match the length of the description photos, but here I'd add a factor most people forget (I included) when looking at bibs

description photos are studio photos, the model puts the bib on, takes the photo, then changes to the next bib
but when you start moving and then riding, the bib settles in and normally goes up a bit. That'd be the real length of the bib
so I'd consider more the photos of the reviewer riding and with a bent knee, than the one who's in front of a mirror just trying the bib after arrival
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 00Garza on August 04, 2023, 03:09:12 PM
I've been looking at the various brands recently, and my conclusions just from looking at the photos/reviews on Aliexpress seem to mirror people's actual experiences.

One issue is that I am tall (183cm) but pretty slim (86cm chest, 80cm waist, ish), so things come up short as they are, and the Chinese patterns seem to be slightly behind Western fashion of longer legged shorts.

One notable exception seems to be Spexcel? In the item and review photos of this product the legs seem to be cut almost too long? The caption says the model is 180cm and wears size S, but the leg grippers are almost loose at their knees!

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005343407124.html

Fellow tall scrawny person here. 187cm and about 77 kilos. I bought a size medium bib according to their charts, but it was too small. Had to buy a large. I'm a medium in most jerseys, but large in most bibs. Sizing will vary between brands, and even between different styles of a brand.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Queen of Skulls on August 04, 2023, 03:42:02 PM
Bacislly as a tall and stout lady.... (I was a competitive swimmer) I guess the size, ask for measurements, and pray my boobs havent got bigger. and that its long enough.

but I find cheep but fun patterns
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Gareth79 on August 04, 2023, 07:12:29 PM
Sizing will vary between brands, and even between different styles of a brand.

Oh yes, well aware of that! Currently I stick to Castelli medium, which fits me well although a little short. Alé likewise.

I think large might be a bit loose on my legs though. The prices of the decent-rated stuff (£25) is not really low enough given that returns are impractical and selling them on will be a challenge!  A pair of top-end Castelli shorts are £80 in a sale.

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: numberzero on August 05, 2023, 01:45:15 AM
I ordered two sets of spexcel bib+jersey. According to the dimensions chart i went on S for 1,75m.

Bibs were tight and long, probably too tight if you have very big legs.
Jersey are too small so i never used them.

About bibs, they are heavier than well known brands and thus warmer. Around me it seems it's common for chinese clothes, they are not top quality, less ventilated, warmer especially for jerseys.

Spexcel bibs became a bit looser than when they were new and chamois is now irritating me.

So you have what you pay for, don't expect a miracle  ;)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: jannmayer on August 05, 2023, 01:56:52 AM
Does anyone have any recommendations for lightweight long-sleeve jerseys? I'm looking for something for sun protection on warm days, and poison oak protection as well. I'm about 190 cm and a bit over 90 kg, so I need a fairly large size.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on August 05, 2023, 02:45:54 AM
I ordered two sets of spexcel bib+jersey. According to the dimensions chart i went on S for 1,75m.


So you have what you pay for, don't expect a miracle  ;)

I wouldn't say  so. I didn't like my spexcel bibs at all, but after giving another even cheaper brand a try (darevie) I'm sold. They are easily better than my castelli set. There are bargains, but sometimes a brand won't fit you and that's okay.
I'm also surprised you went for S at 1m75, even in western brands you're probably a M
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: numberzero on August 05, 2023, 04:53:41 AM
I wouldn't say  so. I didn't like my spexcel bibs at all, but after giving another even cheaper brand a try (darevie) I'm sold. They are easily better than my castelli set. There are bargains, but sometimes a brand won't fit you and that's okay.
I'm also surprised you went for S at 1m75, even in western brands you're probably a M
Yes i'm using M with western size but according to the dimensions compared to what i used, the S size for spexcel bib was the correct one. They were pretty long like what you can see now with pros.
this set ->https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32806414878.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.68.523b5e5bpQ0l4I&gatewayAdapt=glo2fra

I'm also using two Racmmer jerseys in S.
M would be a bit too long for me and not fit enough.

They are pretty decent but not enough ventilated so a bit hot for a summer jersey if you are sensible of warmth.
The multicolored one has pretty much longest sleeves.

At a discounted price it's a good deal ^^

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32267831169.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.63.523b5e5bpQ0l4I&gatewayAdapt=glo2fra
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32267831169.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.63.523b5e5bpQ0l4I&gatewayAdapt=glo2fra
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Gareth79 on August 05, 2023, 08:15:50 AM
I wouldn't say  so. I didn't like my spexcel bibs at all, but after giving another even cheaper brand a try (darevie) I'm sold. They are easily better than my castelli set. There are bargains, but sometimes a brand won't fit you and that's okay.
I'm also surprised you went for S at 1m75, even in western brands you're probably a M

I was thinking about Darevie too, they certainly look like a more modern pattern/fit. The slogan on the jersey is just cringe though! Somebody here said it was printed on, but they were not able to remove it?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on August 05, 2023, 08:33:19 AM
I was thinking about Darevie too, they certainly look like a more modern pattern/fit. The slogan on the jersey is just cringe though! Somebody here said it was printed on, but they were not able to remove it?

Yeah, that would have been me  :)
I took the gamble and hoped I would be able to remove it, but that was not possible. These slogans just scream "cheap" so I will probably only wear the shirt inside or on rides alone...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on August 05, 2023, 09:22:15 AM
I found it very cheesy at first but you forget pretty fast it's there. It is subtle enough so I don't really mind it, and if somebody has enough time to read it they are unlikely to know what it means anyway. But I'm sure you could scrape it off if you can't get past it.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on August 05, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
I found it very cheesy at first but you forget pretty fast it's there. It is subtle enough so I don't really mind it, and if somebody has enough time to read it they are unlikely to know what it means anyway. But I'm sure you could scrape it off if you can't get past it.

No you can't  :) i tried heating and sticker remover. I think it is sort of fused with the fabric by heating.

I once tried the same with some bibs and the logo came off with a hairdryer and I removed the residue with sticker remover. Invisible now.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Gareth79 on August 05, 2023, 10:01:14 AM
No you can't  :) i tried heating and sticker remover. I think it is sort of fused with the fabric by heating.

I once tried the same with some bibs and the logo came off with a hairdryer and I removed the residue with sticker remover. Invisible now.

Reminds me of these "replica" PNS shorts, one of the reviews has pictures of the lettering falling off:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001238960695.html
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on August 07, 2023, 12:45:46 PM
I was thinking about Darevie too, they certainly look like a more modern pattern/fit. The slogan on the jersey is just cringe though! Somebody here said it was printed on, but they were not able to remove it?

I must admit that I changed from my Castelli to Darevie on a3 day trip. My Castelli is okay up to 80-90km , but if I scratch the 100km I start to hate the big chamois. It's just to thick.
The Darevie...4,5h power trainer,  all fine .. just my legs were broken  ;D
But that's very personal. If you like the chamois and the bibs have a decent cut for your body... then it's your brand.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on August 09, 2023, 01:58:17 AM
...About bibs, they are heavier than well known brands and thus warmer...
So you have what you pay for, don't expect a miracle  ;)

I had this hot plastic bag impression with a spexcel bib I tried.

Not these Darevie: https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExJuwDh
I did rides in very hot weather and they are just fine.
And at $36, I can't find anything better.

Anecdotally I moved out from black bibs and don't look back 
You just to have to be more careful at your nature breaks 8)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Gareth79 on August 09, 2023, 07:55:37 AM
I've ordered Darevie shorts and jersey in M, let's see!

edit: Those exact ones from the link above. If you want blue, grey or black (I wanted green) then this link is cheaper, it's a "Choice" item stocked at AliExpress warehouses: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005057467316.html
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Gareth79 on August 14, 2023, 05:47:25 PM
Ok, so received the Darevie jersey, shorts are still en-route.

First impression is that it's remarkable value for money. The fabrics feel good quality, the zip is good, it has a zipper guard at the neck (like my Alé jerseys), the waist band while pretty thick actually works very well, the stitching is great, the pocket stitching even has reinforcement inside!

Sizing is interesting - I bought medium and it's slightly larger than my Castelli Aero Race 6.0 jersey in medium which fits tight, and a similar fit to my Alé PRR jerseys, also medium which are close-fitting but not tight. I could probably fit into a small, but it might end up too short. I'm 183cm/6'0.

Interestingly it feels a little too long at the front (the zipper doesn't lay flat), but it's measures up shorter than the Castelli jersey, odd!

I made some measurements of them, laid flat, in cm, all medium:

Castelli Aero Race 6.0 - Darevie - Alé PRR
Zip length: 49 - 47.5 - 49
Sleeve width at end: 9 - 10 -11.5
Sleeve length collar to end of sleeve: 37 - 38 - 39
Across body under just under sleeves: 39 - 42 - 42
Waist just above hem: 36 - 34 - 38

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on August 15, 2023, 07:26:33 AM
about the 'plastic bag' comparison, my impression from the YKYWB and Darevie clothings is that the fabric is well-ventilated and wicks the moisture pretty well. For jerseys especially, and I even have one from YKYWB which is summer specific, and has a mesh fabric for the whole back and sleeves, which is really cool and fit for hot rides
But for bibs also, I don't have any issues with them being too hot (currently have 4 from YKYWB and 3 from Darevie), not even for indoor rides. But surprisingly they also hold the heat well in the coldest rides.

I cannot compare to Spexcel bibs since I have none. But the 3 jerseys I have from Spexcel, my impression is the fabric is hotter, slightly.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Gareth79 on August 15, 2023, 07:11:05 PM
Yes the Darevie jersey fabric seems fine. It's a slightly thicker and a closer weave than the Castelli 6.0 jersey, but I paid attention to the airflow and sweating and it was all ok.

I received the bib shorts today and the medium seems to fit fine when trying it on quickly. Again, their medium is very similar sizing to Castelli medium. The leg grippers seem very "sticky" though, will be interesting to see how they feel on a ride tomorrow and how well they work.


Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Bigal on August 18, 2023, 10:48:42 PM
Does anyone have any recommendations for lightweight long-sleeve jerseys? I'm looking for something for sun protection on warm days, and poison oak protection as well. I'm about 190 cm and a bit over 90 kg, so I need a fairly large size.

Not a long sleeve jersey but I purchased these sleeves with UV protection https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32850484347.html before last summer and they were as good in not better than some brand named ones that where 8 times the price. Being in Australia in summer I prefer this to layers of sun screen

I'll be buying another spare pair for this summer.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on August 21, 2023, 09:02:14 AM
I also received my Deravie jersey today. I ordered an S and it is tight (around the waist) for my 172cm/63kg. I like tight jerseys and have a problem finding something that is tight enough since I have lost weight because of the cycling...

Edit: tried to remove the text on the sleeves of the jersey with heat and with sticker remover, but it did not work :( I was hoping that I would be able to remove them since I find them way to tacky... So these will be for my solo rides I'm afraid...

Yesterday I did my first ride with the shirt and I am not really happy with it, but that's more my fault... The S is tight, but the back is also really short. I just can't reach the pockets comfortable or safely while riding...

I ordered the M in the sale. We'll see if this is better.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Sebastian on August 22, 2023, 03:43:59 PM

Not these Darevie: https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExJuwDh
I did rides in very hot weather and they are just fine.
And at $36, I can't find anything better.

I gave these a try and I have to say I’m seriously impressed. These are easily comparable with my Castelli bibs which are about five times as expensive. The chamois is an actual chamois with profiling and different thickness areas. A whole different story to my Spexcel bib which is the same price. Sizing is also spot on so the measurements they give for their Asian sizes seem to be accurate. I will buy these again and I’m very tempted now to try their jerseys.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on August 22, 2023, 10:25:52 PM
about the 'plastic bag' comparison, my impression from the YKYWB and Darevie clothings is that the fabric is well-ventilated and wicks the moisture pretty well. For jerseys especially, and I even have one from YKYWB which is summer specific, and has a mesh fabric for the whole back and sleeves, which is really cool and fit for hot rides
But for bibs also, I don't have any issues with them being too hot (currently have 4 from YKYWB and 3 from Darevie), not even for indoor rides. But surprisingly they also hold the heat well in the coldest rides.

I cannot compare to Spexcel bibs since I have none. But the 3 jerseys I have from Spexcel, my impression is the fabric is hotter, slightly.
I think it has a lot to do with the material/lycra used.
I have a Spexcel jersey with their coldblack lycra and I will happily wear on stupidly hot days aka 35C+ it is one of my better jerseys for wicking sweat away (and I do sweat a lot).
I have half a dozen YKYWB jerseys, don't find them that good at wicking moisture away (I have better alternatives) so they get used on the normal 15-30C ride days.
My only experience with a Darevie jersey (long sleeve) was not positive.

With regards to bibs,  I find the lycra in my  Spexcel and four Darevie bibs to be lighter, less compressive than other bibs, but good at wicking sweat. Will happily use them on hotter days as long as the ride is less than 4 hours.
My YKYWB bibs are black cargo bibs, don't wear tend to wear them on hot days.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on August 23, 2023, 01:02:31 AM
I gave these a try and I have to say I’m seriously impressed. These are easily comparable with my Castelli bibs which are about five times as expensive. The chamois is an actual chamois with profiling and different thickness areas. A whole different story to my Spexcel bib which is the same price. Sizing is also spot on so the measurements they give for their Asian sizes seem to be accurate. I will buy these again and I’m very tempted now to try their jerseys.
Lol! I thought I was reading my own message. Also have castelli bibs, also tried spexcel  and hated it, then bought darevie and found them amazing value. Just ordered a second pair yesterday.
I don't think I'll buy their jersey again though, a zipped pocket is kind of a big deal to me and the pockets are much smaller in general. Fits amazing overall, it's just the pockets for me
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on August 23, 2023, 01:20:37 AM
I received this new Rion shirt yesterday: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005861997589.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005861997589.html)
I ordered a XS (172cm and 63kg) in champagne colour, but the fit is OK, but is is way to short and the pockets are way too high. The colour is also more pink than champagne.

It has free return, so I am going to try how that works out for the first time...

Edit: They already provided me with the return label, so that's good :)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on August 23, 2023, 06:03:25 AM
I received this new Rion shirt yesterday: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005861997589.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005861997589.html)
I ordered a XS (172cm and 63kg) in champagne colour, but the fit is OK, but is is way to short and the pockets are way too high. The colour is also more pink than champagne.

It has free return, so I am going to try how that works out for the first time...

Edit: They already provided me with the return label, so that's good :)

They look a lot like the darevie jerseys to me, with the high pockets, mesh arms, SBS zipper and even the cheesy line. Only real difference I see are the reflector positions on the back
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on August 23, 2023, 06:05:01 AM
They look a lot like the darevie jerseys to me, with the high pockets, mesh arms, SBS zipper and even the cheesy line. Only real difference I see are the reflector positions on the back

You could be very much right, since I also have the Deravie and the fit is identical.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on August 31, 2023, 06:37:52 AM
Yesterday I did my first ride with the shirt and I am not really happy with it, but that's more my fault... The S is tight, but the back is also really short. I just can't reach the pockets comfortable or safely while riding...

I ordered the M in the sale. We'll see if this is better.

I received the M today. Bought it last week in sales so I think it cost me about 12€... The fit is much better than the S for my 172cm 63kg. The colour is OK, but I don't know how long the orange will stay nice... We'll see.
It does however smell like canned fish for some reason...  :o So I'll wash it before wearing...

The text on the sleeve is black on the orange shirt, so a little less visible than the reflective text on some colours.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on August 31, 2023, 10:13:20 AM
Coincidentally, I also received my upsized darevie bibs yesterday. My first pair was L because people with my measurements reported good results, but this XL fits me a lot better (L is still okay, just a little tight to put on) for 1m83/75kg
I don't know why all reviews say they match EU sizes, I don't think they do.
Doubt I'll order another darevie jersey though, the arms are amazing but the pockets are pretty bad imo
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: coffeebreak on September 17, 2023, 09:24:23 AM
Has anyone returned Darevie jersey? I ordered a size bigger than I usually wear and it's still too small and tight. Wonder if I should have gone with 2 sizes up.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on September 17, 2023, 09:32:15 AM
Has anyone returned Darevie jersey? I ordered a size bigger than I usually wear and it's still too small and tight. Wonder if I should have gone with 2 sizes up.

Does it have free return?

I bought a Rion jersey and returned it with the free return option. All went smooth and received the money back after about 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: coffeebreak on September 17, 2023, 10:24:56 AM
They need a photo or video before it's submitted I wonder what do they expect. Just a photo of the jersey? I chose incorrect size description
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on September 17, 2023, 12:07:29 PM
They need a photo or video before it's submitted I wonder what do they expect. Just a photo of the jersey? I chose incorrect size description
I ordered a "champagne" coloured jersey, but is was more pink than champagne. So I used a photo of it as evidence.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on September 18, 2023, 06:22:28 AM
They need a photo or video before it's submitted I wonder what do they expect. Just a photo of the jersey? I chose incorrect size description
does the size don't match the size table measurements? you can take photos of the jersey + a measuring tape and make some comparisons, like 'table says 65cm, real size 60cm, etc'. I've done this is the past with some disputes and went well
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: coffeebreak on September 18, 2023, 06:02:01 PM
I ordered a "champagne" coloured jersey, but is was more pink than champagne. So I used a photo of it as evidence.


does the size don't match the size table measurements? you can take photos of the jersey + a measuring tape and make some comparisons, like 'table says 65cm, real size 60cm, etc'. I've done this is the past with some disputes and went well

Thanks, just sent pictures of the jersey and they approved it. A few hours later, the store responded saying can you please change the reason to "no longer needed", that way the refund will be processed faster. I already had the return label at that point and couldn't change the reason for return. Told the same to them and no reply after that. Just gonna ship it and see what happens.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on September 18, 2023, 11:52:20 PM

Thanks, just sent pictures of the jersey and they approved it. A few hours later, the store responded saying can you please change the reason to "no longer needed", that way the refund will be processed faster. I already had the return label at that point and couldn't change the reason for return. Told the same to them and no reply after that. Just gonna ship it and see what happens.
The Rion store asked me the same question. I just ignored it...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: JonMS on September 19, 2023, 07:18:24 AM
Add my .02$ here

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805157092372.html
These are amazing and my favorite bib purchase so far from ali. They fit true to size. 185cm and I am size M

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804601228289.htm
These fit a bit tighter at the same size as above and an older style. Not as nice as above I will use for indoor training. A bit tighter fitting also a size M

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805769134049.html
Fit of these is inbetween the two above. Only being a little tighter than the top bib. Did a 50 mile ride in them and it was great. Also a size M

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kubackje on September 19, 2023, 08:25:30 AM
Add my .02$ here

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805157092372.html
These are amazing and my favorite bib purchase so far from ali. They fit true to size. 185cm and I am size M

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804601228289.htm

I have 2 pairs of those and they are absolutely amazing. I have size L for 187cm 85kg muscle body.

I am keen to try the new cargo ones you listed at no 3. How is the padding on them? Thicker gor offroad use?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on September 19, 2023, 08:51:07 AM
A few hours later, the store responded saying can you please change the reason to "no longer needed", that way the refund will be processed faster. I already had the return label at that point and couldn't change the reason for return. Told the same to them and no reply after that. Just gonna ship it and see what happens.
I think that's more to do with their internal rating with Aliexpress, than a faster process.
If it's something wrong with the item they maybe get 'punished' in some way by the platform, lower rating, maybe makes more difficult to hit some target of sales and ratings.
Instead, if you say it's 'no longer needed' the return and refund happen normally but the store's reputation remains the same.
at least for some cases, because I know that some items have the 'return in 15d' tag, and I remember reading that you can return whatever the motive is, it's not required that's some error or defect on the product
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: JonMS on September 19, 2023, 11:18:43 AM
I have 2 pairs of those and they are absolutely amazing. I have size L for 187cm 85kg muscle body.

I am keen to try the new cargo ones you listed at no 3. How is the padding on them? Thicker gor offroad use?

I wouldnt say any thicker than other bibs bu defiently more premium than the other cargo bibs I posted. I have no issues with comfort or fit.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Wet Noodle on September 19, 2023, 12:19:19 PM
I think that's more to do with their internal rating with Aliexpress, than a faster process.
If it's something wrong with the item they maybe get 'punished' in some way by the platform, lower rating, maybe makes more difficult to hit some target of sales and ratings.
Instead, if you say it's 'no longer needed' the return and refund happen normally but the store's reputation remains the same.
...

I had a similar experience (seller very heavily suggesting to use a benign reason "because faster / easier to process" blabla) and thought the exact same thing as you.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: japjoe7 on September 21, 2023, 07:40:58 AM
Anyone recommend a good Ali. non-bib chamois for trail riding?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Greenred on September 22, 2023, 03:53:31 AM
Any good winter clothes? Looking specifically for a jacket or cycling fleece
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kubackje on September 22, 2023, 05:31:19 AM
Any good winter clothes? Looking specifically for a jacket or cycling fleece

I use spexcel autumn longsleeves and winter jacket and I find it top quality.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on September 22, 2023, 12:44:10 PM
Any good winter clothes? Looking specifically for a jacket or cycling fleece
I have a winter bib from Ykywbike, long legs, fleeced up to the torso, used in some cold rides (down to 1ºC) and kept me warm but also not to the point of sweating too much
other than that no other winter clothing, but base layer and jersey/bibs I really like their products.
they have some new jacket out which seems good from the photos, I have some of their more expensive stuff and it's really top quality, the vendor has nice communication too, and that's what keeps me coming back to buy with them
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on September 22, 2023, 04:22:06 PM
I have a winter bib from Ykywbike, long legs, fleeced up to the torso, used in some cold rides (down to 1ºC) and kept me warm but also not to the point of sweating too much
other than that no other winter clothing, but base layer and jersey/bibs I really like their products.
they have some new jacket out which seems good from the photos, I have some of their more expensive stuff and it's really top quality, the vendor has nice communication too, and that's what keeps me coming back to buy with them

Can you give a hint on the sizing? They Yky clothes look similar to Spexcel  however inspired a bit more by Rapha regarding the sleeve design.

I had Spexcel before but after they sent me a wrongly labeled thermal jersey, they were really rude to me, didn't admit that there is a mistake (ali agreed to new and I got the money back... however, the shop forbid me to order at their shop. But that's fine...I don't want to order anymore there because that's roulette to me...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on September 23, 2023, 10:18:08 AM
Can you give a hint on the sizing?
I'm 1.73/63kg, skinny arms but 'normal' legs, for Ykywbike I normally go with S for jerseys/jackets, and M for bibs, always a good fit
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on September 23, 2023, 02:50:41 PM
I use spexcel autumn longsleeves and winter jacket and I find it top quality.

Would you mind sharing the links ?
I tried 3 Spexcel ones, but I'm overcooking in them.

The only great winter(when no rain) jacket I did buy were called Runchita, and I'm still using them as from 2019
They are unfortunately not available anymore.
These are not the same, but I didn't try as they don't have the S size:  https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ey8xBmR
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kubackje on September 24, 2023, 10:56:08 AM
Would you mind sharing the links ?
I tried 3 Spexcel ones, but I'm overcooking in them.

The only great winter(when no rain) jacket I did buy were called Runchita, and I'm still using them as from 2019
They are unfortunately not available anymore.
These are not the same, but I didn't try as they don't have the S size:  https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ey8xBmR

Winter
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJNwtdv

Autumn
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwSeIMT my favorite

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on September 25, 2023, 01:02:52 AM
I bought these for winter / rainy rides but they are crap... Sweat stays in so you are drenched after a while... Really uncomfortable...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001296267014.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001296267014.html)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on September 25, 2023, 11:16:40 AM
I bought these for winter / rainy rides but they are crap... Sweat stays in so you are drenched after a while... Really uncomfortable...
is it really waterproof? It seems it's hard to have a waterproof/resistant fabric AND breathable, it's found only on more expensive clothes
don't know if the spexcel jackets from kubackjeee are better, would be good to know

I always have issues with that, with these kinds of winter clothing.
I sweat too much, and I need breathable fabrics otherwise I'll be drenched in no time. What I end up doing is layering up, and always leaving some opening on the zipper to try to cool down, but after awhile in the ride I tend to open a lot the zipper to cool down, and when it starts to get cold then I close again
annoying, but it's what works. Always wondered if a more expensive jacket would give me the breathability, but at least here it's just too much money, so I prefer to be annoyed  ;D
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on September 25, 2023, 11:21:58 AM
I don't know if they are waterproof. I bought 2 of these and wore one 1 time and I will probably never wear them again... Money wasted...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kubackje on September 25, 2023, 11:48:33 AM
is it really waterproof? It seems it's hard to have a waterproof/resistant fabric AND breathable, it's found only on more expensive clothes
don't know if the spexcel jackets from kubackjeee are better, would be good to know

I always have issues with that, with these kinds of winter clothing.
I sweat too much, and I need breathable fabrics otherwise I'll be drenched in no time. What I end up doing is layering up, and always leaving some opening on the zipper to try to cool down, but after awhile in the ride I tend to open a lot the zipper to cool down, and when it starts to get cold then I close again
annoying, but it's what works. Always wondered if a more expensive jacket would give me the breathability, but at least here it's just too much money, so I prefer to be annoyed  ;D

I don't even count that it will be waterproof and good breathable at the same time. For this you need a top class membrane. And the best I could are polish brand jmp sport - https://sklep.jmpsport.pl/sporty/246-2618-x2-kurtka-rowerowa-meska-40000-jmp-2415820012108.html#/4-rozmiar-xl/30-kolor-ciemny_niebieski - this is the only rain jacket that does not make me wet under. But since I do not like to ride in the rain that much I need those spexcels for colder days and they do the job perfectly. The winter one I am sure will be good on a little rain
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on September 25, 2023, 11:51:47 AM
PSA: Not chinese but the decathlon RC500 is often on sale at 30€ in europe and has excellent reviews. Not sure why there would be a need to gamble on ali
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: MattL on September 26, 2023, 07:48:29 AM
Little updates after some months of usage,
i can confirm the quality of this Darevie's jersey, i'll probably buy another one of the next season.
(https://i.ibb.co/09CtDmB/Immagine-2023-09-26-143230.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

This bib from Spexcel, instead, is not convincing me completely, i mean it's really good looking and practical with all the pockets but i wouldn't use it for 3+ hours ride. (while its marketed for 7 hours ones)

(https://i.ibb.co/whL3r2D/Immagine-2023-09-26-143150.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Crash217 on September 27, 2023, 09:06:19 AM
Anyone found some good cycling socks on AliEx with a silicone band around the top to help keep them from sliding down?  Bonus points if they are available in size 39/40.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on September 27, 2023, 09:18:35 AM
Anyone found some good cycling socks on AliEx with a silicone band around the top to help keep them from sliding down?  Bonus points if they are available in size 39/40.
some pages ago there was some discussion and recommendations, I think 2-3 pages back
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: paldo on September 27, 2023, 12:25:03 PM
I also have some Darevie and loved it. Once in awhile I see them goes on sale and bought it just in case.


Little updates after some months of usage,
i can confirm the quality of this Darevie's jersey, i'll probably buy another one of the next season.
(https://i.ibb.co/09CtDmB/Immagine-2023-09-26-143230.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on September 28, 2023, 12:46:44 AM
Based on a recent comment here, I'm just trying these on a bike trip:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ev2fVmF

And they are great. They are summer socks, so very thin.
The shipping to Belgium was very fast.


Anyone found some good cycling socks on AliEx with a silicone band around the top to help keep them from sliding down?  Bonus points if they are available in size 39/40.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on October 02, 2023, 09:15:35 PM
Based on a recent comment here, I'm just trying these on a bike trip:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ev2fVmF

And they are great. They are summer socks, so very thin.
The shipping to Belgium was very fast.
All these socks only go up to size 45 which sucks, can't find any that are size eu 46 on ali
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on October 03, 2023, 01:35:32 AM
And even then, a 39-45 sock is kind of a joke. No such thing exists, they are probably loose if you are a 39 and will be tight and uncomfortable at 45
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on October 03, 2023, 11:41:54 AM
 :o the Darevie bibs increased the prize ... its now more than double now, for € is 74... is this only for my account the case?
Also the jersey got much much much more expensive ?!
Even though I like them .. but that's not possible...I won't buy them again.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on October 03, 2023, 12:09:45 PM
:o the Darevie bibs increased the prize ... its now more than double now, for € is 74... is this only for my account the case?
Also the jersey got much much much more expensive ?!
Even though I like them .. but that's not possible...I won't buy them again.

I also saw that. It's probably just temporary...
You can find them from other stores much cheaper. They are the cheapest in the "Choice" section... Jersey is now about 17 USD before the 2 USD discount.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on October 03, 2023, 12:13:38 PM
:o the Darevie bibs increased the prize ... its now more than double now, for € is 74... is this only for my account the case?
Also the jersey got much much much more expensive ?!
Even though I like them .. but that's not possible...I won't buy them again.

Saw that today too... Only on the official store thankfully, and the short sleeve jerseys are still the same price (for now?)
Still a bunch of stock on other stores with limited color options, but I don't expect a price tripling to be permanant. Or at least I hope so, I like the bibs a lot
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on October 03, 2023, 02:33:42 PM
this is popping in a number of topics these days, lots of products increasing in price by absurd amounts\
it's just common practice all over Aliexpress to prepare for the 11.11 sale. Products on Aliexpress are always with some amount of discount, it's always like 30% off over some 'stock' price which is never really practiced, or like 10 days a year tops.
soon it should be back to normal...

also another user pointed out that China is currently in Holidays, back next weekend, and the increase could be to discourage buyers, reduce order amount for a moment, and let them rest these days.
But honestly I don't think it's that, in my experience normally with long Holidays the website or the seller just extends the shipping time, covering their absence. Through chinese new year for example (february) the website normally advises that shipping will take 1-2 extra weeks due to holidays.

:o the Darevie bibs increased the prize ... its now more than double now, for € is 74... is this only for my account the case?
Also the jersey got much much much more expensive ?!
Even though I like them .. but that's not possible...I won't buy them again.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on October 03, 2023, 02:49:16 PM
this is popping in a number of topics these days, lots of products increasing in price by absurd amounts\
it's just common practice all over Aliexpress to prepare for the 11.11 sale. Products on Aliexpress are always with some amount of discount, it's always like 30% off over some 'stock' price which is never really practiced, or like 10 days a year tops.
soon it should be back to normal...

also another user pointed out that China is currently in Holidays, back next weekend, and the increase could be to discourage buyers, reduce order amount for a moment, and let them rest these days.
But honestly I don't think it's that, in my experience normally with long Holidays the website or the seller just extends the shipping time, covering their absence. Through chinese new year for example (february) the website normally advises that shipping will take 1-2 extra weeks due to holidays.

I hope for the best. I know there are some increases before 11/11 but doubling the price is very crazy.  :o
Currently I am well equipped with wine, purple, teal, grey and black  ;D. But I feel the material itself probably won't last that long. Not because it's bad, but it's rather soft and thin Lycra.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on October 03, 2023, 05:26:02 PM
...I am well equipped with wine, purple, teal, grey and black  ;D...
Same here  :D went on a spending spree early summer, even adding the avocado to the list!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on October 05, 2023, 02:34:30 PM
Same here  :D went on a spending spree early summer, even adding the avocado to the list!

 ;D color flash. Avocado is nice.
By the way: The prices went back to normal.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: jonathanf2 on October 05, 2023, 05:23:57 PM
I'm a bit lazy to read through this entire thread. Are there any recommendations for bibs with pockets and thick padding especially in the inner thigh and front crotch area? Some days I just don't want to wear a cycling jersey and I'd rather wear like a loose shirt especially when riding gravel/dirt.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on October 06, 2023, 12:10:46 AM
I'm a bit lazy to read through this entire thread. Are there any recommendations for bibs with pockets and thick padding especially in the inner thigh and front crotch area? Some days I just don't want to wear a cycling jersey and I'd rather wear like a loose shirt especially when riding gravel/dirt.
I recently bought these and like them. Only 2 small pockets so I don't know that's enough for you...
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPoiEES (https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPoiEES)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on October 06, 2023, 01:25:38 AM
;D color flash. Avocado is nice.
Agreed

also own red aka wine/burgundy, brown and purple, as wll as grey from the previous season/design.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on October 08, 2023, 10:16:11 AM
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005922695020.html

Anyone? Willing to try or already tried? They look pretty good from pictures but at this price I'm a little hesitant
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on October 08, 2023, 10:30:17 AM
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005922695020.html

Anyone? Willing to try or already tried? They look pretty good from pictures but at this price I'm a little hesitant
At that price it is probably cr*p...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on October 09, 2023, 06:52:05 AM
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005922695020.html

Anyone? Willing to try or already tried? They look pretty good from pictures but at this price I'm a little hesitant
by the photos alone the fabric seems the kind of cheap polyester which with time starts to disintegrate - loose threads, color fades, and the sweat smell doesn't go away. Of course, that'd be just what it looks like, but at that price, I wouldn't expect anything different, especially it's an unknown brand.
If you're ok with trying and maybe having to throw away after some months, then maybe worth it..

but imo, with offers from Darevie and Rion on the 'super deals' and such, which end up not being much more expensive, and at least you know the brand and that the fabric is better, I'd say it's better to spend your money on those than on some risky new shirt/brand
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on October 09, 2023, 07:08:55 AM
by the photos alone the fabric seems the kind of cheap polyester which with time starts to disintegrate - loose threads, color fades, and the sweat smell doesn't go away. Of course, that'd be just what it looks like, but at that price, I wouldn't expect anything different, especially it's an unknown brand.
If you're ok with trying and maybe having to throw away after some months, then maybe worth it..

but imo, with offers from Darevie and Rion on the 'super deals' and such, which end up not being much more expensive, and at least you know the brand and that the fabric is better, I'd say it's better to spend your money on those than on some risky new shirt/brand

When buying my first set of shirt/bib on ali, I also got a very cheap one, the one with the multi-colored chamois... I did not even wear it once because it is utter garbage... It's not even worth trying.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on October 09, 2023, 07:37:45 PM
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005922695020.html

Anyone? Willing to try or already tried? They look pretty good from pictures but at this price I'm a little hesitant
As somebody who has taken risks and bought AliExpress kit from unknown brands/shops, based on the shop/brands photos, I would not recommend it, unless you have money to throw away. Odds are you will end up with very cheap and nasty kit, with low grade polyester material, poor fit, sizing and other issues.
Been burnt enough times (a few kits worn once or I will never wear)  I take care with what I buy now, stick to the better brands (Specxel, YKYWbike, Darevie, Rion, Cheji, Santic) from reputable sellers.
If you are on a real tight budget you
with offers from Darevie and Rion on the 'super deals' and such, which end up not being much more expensive, and at least you know the brand and that the fabric is better, I'd say it's better to spend your money on those than on some risky new shirt/brand
you are not going to get better value for money kit wise anywhere
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Sebastian on October 15, 2023, 03:56:16 AM
Can anyone recommend a good set of winter bib tights WITHOUT chamois? I prefer to wear tights over my shorts as I find it a lot comfier. But I can’t find any from Chinese clothing manufacturers.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: raisinberry777 on October 15, 2023, 04:26:34 AM
Anyone got recommendations on a one-piece skinsuit (preferably with pockets)? Looking to find a 'racesuit' type outfit but it seems like there's not much choice from the high quality brands on AliExpress.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on October 15, 2023, 04:36:59 AM
Can anyone recommend a good set of winter bib tights WITHOUT chamois? I prefer to wear tights over my shorts as I find it a lot comfier. But I can’t find any from Chinese clothing manufacturers.

I just get runners tights from Decathlon.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on October 15, 2023, 04:55:25 AM
I just get runners tights from Decathlon.

They are discounted atmat my local store and I was considering them instead of getting winter bibs. Do you wear them over or under bibs?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on October 15, 2023, 05:20:12 AM
They are discounted atmat my local store and I was considering them instead of getting winter bibs. Do you wear them over or under bibs?
Over the bibs. But get the small enough. You don't want them baggy at you butt...  ;D
I like it this way. No need to get expensive long bibs you won't wear a lot.(depending on where you live of course..)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Sebastian on October 15, 2023, 07:19:00 AM
Over the bibs. But get the small enough. You don't want them baggy at you butt...  ;D
I like it this way. No need to get expensive long bibs you won't wear a lot.(depending on where you live of course..)

Exactly. And runner's tights are not my fav for this application. I want tights with suspenders so they don't work their way down.
I have found a few options at local shops from big brands with discount. But I figured there might be something from a Chinese brand. Bib tights with pad never quite worked for me. Either the fit around the waist and the pad work for me but the legs are too short or the leg length is fine but they're too baggy where the pad sits. Padless tights are much better - for me at least.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on October 15, 2023, 10:56:10 PM
Anyone got recommendations on a one-piece skinsuit (preferably with pockets)? Looking to find a 'racesuit' type outfit but it seems like there's not much choice from the high quality brands on AliExpress.
Once you go skinsuit you never go back, the fit and simplicity is just far superior imo.
If you can manage to get it on clearance then Neopro skinsuit is incredibly cheap, superior to any ali offering imo.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on October 16, 2023, 04:06:44 AM
Once you go skinsuit you never go back, the fit and simplicity is just far superior imo.
If you can manage to get it on clearance then Neopro skinsuit is incredibly cheap, superior to any ali offering imo.
Neopro won't sell in europe because "the taxes make business not worth it"
Do you also find skinsuits more comfortable, or just easier to deal with and cheaper? I was interested last year but many people dissuaded me saying they are not comfortable and something only worth getting for short races

Unrelated, I found the last discounted neoracer jersey from the local decathlon that happened to be my size... For 15€, I don't think anyone is ever going to beat that price. Worth checking if there is stock locally imo...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on October 16, 2023, 07:19:51 AM
Neopro won't sell in europe because "the taxes make business not worth it"
Do you also find skinsuits more comfortable, or just easier to deal with and cheaper? I was interested last year but many people dissuaded me saying they are not comfortable and something only worth getting for short races

Unrelated, I found the last discounted neoracer jersey from the local decathlon that happened to be my size... For 15€, I don't think anyone is ever going to beat that price. Worth checking if there is stock locally imo...
I find speeddsuits more comfortable since there isn't excess fabric and it is skintight if you get the right size. I really like my nopinz speedsuit but it is way pricier and not sustainable for me unless I get a crazy deal.
I think some people who find them super uncomfortable have the wrong size, don't like tightfitting clothes, or their bodytype isn't suited to a default skinsuit tbh.
Sadly no decathlon in my state.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Eddy_Twerckx on October 16, 2023, 05:44:25 PM
Neopro won't sell in europe because "the taxes make business not worth it"
Do you also find skinsuits more comfortable, or just easier to deal with and cheaper? I was interested last year but many people dissuaded me saying they are not comfortable and something only worth getting for short races

Unrelated, I found the last discounted neoracer jersey from the local decathlon that happened to be my size... For 15€, I don't think anyone is ever going to beat that price. Worth checking if there is stock locally imo...

I’ll add another data point. I personally don’t find ski suits that comfortable. Nothing beats bibs and a separate jersey for comfort and versatility. I love unzipping my jersey in the summer and letting it flap to get a nice breeze going. Doesn’t really work with skin suits. That said, I race exclusively in skin suits. Can’t beat the aero fit. Maybe because my race suit is very tight, meant for being a second skin. I don’t like it for longer than a few hours though.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: jonathanf2 on October 17, 2023, 11:55:03 AM
I love unzipping my jersey in the summer and letting it flap to get a nice breeze going.

Once when I was riding on a hot day with my jersey unzipped, a wasp flew straight onto my stomach, stung me and then started crawling inside my bib! I had to stop and do a crazy dance to get it off me! First day it was sore, next day it itched like crazy. Now I get a little paranoid if I unzip! Lol
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on October 18, 2023, 12:01:32 AM
Anyone got recommendations on a one-piece skinsuit (preferably with pockets)? Looking to find a 'racesuit' type outfit but it seems like there's not much choice from the high quality brands on AliExpress.
Went looking myself, not a lot to find.

Tempted by https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004436474128.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004436474128.html) trust Cheji as a brand (more than NeoPro), have a few pieces of their kit, prices looks good for the next couple of days (Cheji pricing fluctuates wildly), just not sold on the design.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on October 18, 2023, 06:54:39 PM
Went looking myself, not a lot to find.

Tempted by https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004436474128.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004436474128.html) trust Cheji as a brand (more than NeoPro), have a few pieces of their kit, prices looks good for the next couple of days (Cheji pricing fluctuates wildly), just not sold on the design.
For me it is $86 which isn't expensive for a skinsuit but at the same time I can get a neopro one for $80 on sale and it is a tried and true product  :o
I'd be tempted if the designs weren't so bad tbh.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on October 20, 2023, 03:17:07 AM
Once when I was riding on a hot day with my jersey unzipped, a wasp flew straight onto my stomach, stung me and then started crawling inside my bib! I had to stop and do a crazy dance to get it off me! First day it was sore, next day it itched like crazy. Now I get a little paranoid if I unzip! Lol
Feel free to unzip again!
If unlucky, hornets or wasps can sting you through the jersey !
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Sebastian on October 20, 2023, 03:31:40 AM
Feel free to unzip again!
If unlucky, hornets or wasps can sting you through the jersey !

Or through the bib. I can confirm that, too. :)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on October 20, 2023, 04:05:16 AM
How bug nets through helmet vents aren't standard is crazy to me... Not even keeping track of the amount of times something has gotten stuck in my hair through the helmet and stung me anymore
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on October 20, 2023, 07:06:53 AM
How bug nets through helmet vents aren't standard is crazy to me... Not even keeping track of the amount of times something has gotten stuck in my hair through the helmet and stung me anymore

Last week a wasp managed to enter the tiny gap between my face and my cycling glasses... scared to hell without knowing what exactly i felt i pulled the glasses immediately from my head during the ride... when i saw the wasp i felt sick immediately.. just thinking about "what if ...?"

Also hat a wasp entering my jersey some years ago and it got me...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: raisinberry777 on October 20, 2023, 07:24:17 AM
Went looking myself, not a lot to find.

Tempted by https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004436474128.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004436474128.html) trust Cheji as a brand (more than NeoPro), have a few pieces of their kit, prices looks good for the next couple of days (Cheji pricing fluctuates wildly), just not sold on the design.

Yes, there's not a whole lot of options. Swiftofo is the only other one I've come across that I like the look of.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000411945210.html
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on October 20, 2023, 08:04:42 AM
For me it is $86 which isn't expensive for a skinsuit but at the same time I can get a neopro one for $80 on sale
Only if you are XXL or XXXL

and it is a tried and true product
I have tried neopro, one set of bibs and never again, I found the chamois so uncomfortable. Tried Cheji bibs, happy to ride for 3 to 4 hours in the same chamois that is in the skinsuit, I ended up with four of their bibs, so that is well tested by me.

I'd be tempted if the designs weren't so bad tbh.
Agree, ended up buying the least worst looking design IMHO as an experiment, hoping either they come up with better designs or the cost of the custom skinsuit, currently 220AUD drops to a more suitable price and can get one made that I really like.

A few years back, Cheji had a solid block colour aesthetic which has now been replaced by patterns (the opposite of Darevie).

Yes, there's not a whole lot of options. Swiftofo is the only other one I've come across that I like the look of

That looks a lot better than the Cheji options, if I found it, probably would of bought it instead of Cheji, but I have zero experience with Swiftofo.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Tijoe on October 20, 2023, 08:49:19 AM
Once when I was riding on a hot day with my jersey unzipped, a wasp flew straight onto my stomach, stung me and then started crawling inside my bib! I had to stop and do a crazy dance to get it off me! First day it was sore, next day it itched like crazy. Now I get a little paranoid if I unzip! Lol

Many years ago on a long ride, I was descending a hill and a bee, hornet or wasp (who knows)  flew into my open mouth landed on my Uvula and stung me there.  Big jolt of pain.   Rode on to a town with a variety store/pharmacy.   Purchased some Antihistamines and took some as fast as possible.   I had about 40 mile to ride to get back to the car.  Within about 2 hours, my throat was swollen about 2/3rds shut.   
About 8 hours after the sting, my Uvula was dangling down onto my tongue.  It took about 4 days for the swelling to all go away.   (Lots of very cold beverages and Ice cubes along with lots of Antihistamines

For a long time, I was very worried about breathing through my mouth while riding...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on October 26, 2023, 03:55:33 AM
Tried Cheji bibs, happy to ride for 3 to 4 hours in the same chamois that is in the skinsuit, I ended up with four of their bibs, so that is well tested by me.

How is the sizing on the Cheji skinsuit? Did you follow the sizing chart?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on October 26, 2023, 08:18:59 PM
How is the sizing on the Cheji skinsuit? Did you follow the sizing chart?
Waiting for it to arrive, AliExpress tracking has it cleared custom. AusPost who do the delivery are just saying we know about it.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on October 26, 2023, 10:15:08 PM
Waiting for it to arrive, AliExpress tracking has it cleared custom. AusPost who do the delivery are just saying we know about it.

Yeah awesome. Let me know how it goes!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Kraxler on October 27, 2023, 06:58:28 AM

Hello,
does anyone have a recommendation for a good Winter Bikejacket?

I am interested in the linked jacket, maybe someone has experience with it and can report on it.

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003488179482.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.14.46063e06wBw7hl&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2042%2C61%21%E2%82%AC%2037%2C50%21%21%2143.95%2138.68%21%40211b88ef16984070834908856ef4e5%2112000026019977075%21sh%21DE%211984007265%21 (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003488179482.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.14.46063e06wBw7hl&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2042%2C61%21%E2%82%AC%2037%2C50%21%21%2143.95%2138.68%21%40211b88ef16984070834908856ef4e5%2112000026019977075%21sh%21DE%211984007265%21)

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on October 27, 2023, 04:30:32 PM
Hello,
does anyone have a recommendation for a good Winter Bikejacket?

I am interested in the linked jacket, maybe someone has experience with it and can report on it.

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003488179482.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.14.46063e06wBw7hl&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2042%2C61%21%E2%82%AC%2037%2C50%21%21%2143.95%2138.68%21%40211b88ef16984070834908856ef4e5%2112000026019977075%21sh%21DE%211984007265%21 (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003488179482.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.14.46063e06wBw7hl&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2042%2C61%21%E2%82%AC%2037%2C50%21%21%2143.95%2138.68%21%40211b88ef16984070834908856ef4e5%2112000026019977075%21sh%21DE%211984007265%21)

This won't probably work for winter (define winter? For me that's temperatures around 0°C, but as second layer it could be fine or  if you use it around 13°C.. also depends on your personal need of warmth. The fabric looks very similar to the other jackets Spexcel sells. Well maybe but thicker because it's a tad more expensive.
 
Besides that: I really liked Spexcel, but last time i ordered there was some wrong labeled jacket and the seller got really rude, and then a jacket a friend ordered was basically crap, very badly sewn, wrinkles everywhere,  black threads (in a red jacket), and a really ugly large spot on the back from ironing the spexcel logo...
My wrongly sent jacket was at least sewn well.  :-\
Don't know if I should recommend you Spexcel any longer.  :-\
I still love my jacket - it's very similar to the one you linked. But I won't order there again.



Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on October 28, 2023, 12:24:35 AM
I have 2 of these. They are basic but they do the job. You can often find them on sale for less than 25usd.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOuMQvi
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: 00Garza on October 28, 2023, 08:44:48 PM
Went for a ride with the Darevie jersey I got for $13 on the “choice” menu. Pockets are a bit hard to get to, but the jersey is super high quality. Best $13 I’ve spent on Ali for sure!

Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! $13.20  65% Off | DAREVIE Cycling Jersey 2023 Fashion Women Cycling Jersey SPF 50 Man Bike Jersey High Quality Breathable Cycling Shirt MTB Road
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLJkG3K
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on October 30, 2023, 04:41:29 AM
How is the sizing on the Cheji skinsuit? Did you follow the sizing chart?

Arrived today, tried on, not ridden in yet. Tempted to test in race tomorrow, except 40km ride to and from, I am a little unwilling to test new kit on rides of a 100+km.

Fit wise,
I am 184cm (6'1") 96cm chest (38") 82cm (32") waist and pretty solid legs, currently 78kg (170lbs) but usually a couple kg lighter.

According to Cheji fit charts I should be XL, everything I own from Cheji, bib shorts and jersey are L (Which are comparable to M in Rapha pro team). So I went L with skinsuit and are very happy with result. Good, tight but not uncomfortable race fit.

Quality wise it is good, stitching is flat. Only concern is the older style (as in a couple of years ago) two piece leg gripper. But otherwise looks great, even the design is growing on me.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on October 30, 2023, 04:45:38 AM
Went for a ride with the Darevie jersey I got for $13 on the “choice” menu. Pockets are a bit hard to get to, but the jersey is super high quality. Best $13 I’ve spent on Ali for sure!

Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! $13.20  65% Off | DAREVIE Cycling Jersey 2023 Fashion Women Cycling Jersey SPF 50 Man Bike Jersey High Quality Breathable Cycling Shirt MTB Road
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLJkG3K

Yeah, the jerseys are really nice... If they would just stop being so stubborn and lose the stupid text on the sleeves they would sell a lot more... It just screams "Cheap Chinese jersey!!"
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on October 30, 2023, 07:14:50 AM
Yeah, the jerseys are really nice... If they would just stop being so stubborn and lose the stupid text on the sleeves they would sell a lot more... It just screams "Cheap Chinese jersey!!"
yeah, they just released some other models - jersey and bibs - with strange nonsense texts - and it just doesn't make sense, people end up buying because it's still a great quality for the price, but for sure would sell more if they went with 'cleaner' layouts (like Spexcel does, or YKYW too)

my impression is that although these brands sell well on Aliexpress, their real focus is the local market where's the real volume, so they don't pay attention (or don't really care) if the layouts do not appeal to the Western world
and because of the way that Chinese language is structured, these texts make sense to them, it's usually a literal translation of some slogan that works in Chinese
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on October 30, 2023, 07:28:10 AM
yeah, they just released some other models - jersey and bibs - with strange nonsense texts - and it just doesn't make sense, people end up buying because it's still a great quality for the price, but for sure would sell more if they went with 'cleaner' layouts (like Spexcel does, or YKYW too)

my impression is that although these brands sell well on Aliexpress, their real focus is the local market where's the real volume, so they don't pay attention (or don't really care) if the layouts do not appeal to the Western world
and because of the way that Chinese language is structured, these texts make sense to them, it's usually a literal translation of some slogan that works in Chinese
Yeah, for 13-15 USD I can live with it. I will just wear it when I go riding alone...
Without the text I would be willing to pay more and buy more jerseys...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on October 30, 2023, 12:25:39 PM
it's usually a literal translation of some slogan that works in Chinese

Yes
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on October 30, 2023, 12:30:14 PM
Arrived today, tried on, not ridden in yet. Tempted to test in race tomorrow, except 40km ride to and from, I am a little unwilling to test new kit on rides of a 100+km.

Fit wise,
I am 184cm (6'1") 96cm chest (38") 82cm (32") waist and pretty solid legs, currently 78kg (170lbs) but usually a couple kg lighter.

According to Cheji fit charts I should be XL, everything I own from Cheji, bib shorts and jersey are L (Which are comparable to M in Rapha pro team). So I went L with skinsuit and are very happy with result. Good, tight but not uncomfortable race fit.

Quality wise it is good, stitching is flat. Only concern is the older style (as in a couple of years ago) two piece leg gripper. But otherwise looks great, even the design is growing on me.

Sounds awesome. I'm gonna grab one. I'm 188cm/80kg, prob gonna go L, too. Which colour you grab?

What's your inseam mate? (just trying to compare torso length somehow) Is it long enough to not crush your nuts when in a riding position?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Froglover825 on October 30, 2023, 08:06:00 PM
Arrived today, tried on, not ridden in yet. Tempted to test in race tomorrow, except 40km ride to and from, I am a little unwilling to test new kit on rides of a 100+km.

Fit wise,
I am 184cm (6'1") 96cm chest (38") 82cm (32") waist and pretty solid legs, currently 78kg (170lbs) but usually a couple kg lighter.

According to Cheji fit charts I should be XL, everything I own from Cheji, bib shorts and jersey are L (Which are comparable to M in Rapha pro team). So I went L with skinsuit and are very happy with result. Good, tight but not uncomfortable race fit.

Quality wise it is good, stitching is flat. Only concern is the older style (as in a couple of years ago) two piece leg gripper. But otherwise looks great, even the design is growing on me.
Would you say the legs are long?
With the bibs, do they go above your belly button? Had a big issue with Chinese bibs where they are very short on the torso.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on October 31, 2023, 04:21:40 AM
Update on the Cheji skinsuit

Wore it for today's TT, which meant 110km round trip.

As with previous experience with Cheji bibs and that chamois, started getting discomfort after over three hours in saddle. Still survived the slog home into the head/crosswind.

Otherwise very comfortable with no straps digging into my shoulders.

Sounds awesome. I'm gonna grab one. I'm 188cm/80kg, prob gonna go L, too. Which colour you grab?

What's your inseam mate? (just trying to compare torso length somehow) Is it long enough to not crush your nuts when in a riding position?

The blue to white to orange gradient fade.

86cm inseam

And it did not crush my nuts, two hours aero on the hoods and drops, two hours causal ride home on the tops and hoods.

Would you say the legs are long?
With the bibs, do they go above your belly button? Had a big issue with Chinese bibs where they are very short on the torso.
Not bibs but skinsuit. The bottom half finishes just below the belly button. TThe natural stop required a little effort.

When I put then on, thought the legs were long, but photo (which I have not got of phone) has them sitting at about the same length as M MAAP and S Pedal Mafia bibs I wore last week.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on October 31, 2023, 05:08:09 AM
Update on the Cheji skinsuit

Wore it for today's TT, which meant 110km round trip.

As with previous experience with Cheji bibs and that chamois, started getting discomfort after over three hours in saddle. Still survived the slog home into the head/crosswind.

Otherwise very comfortable with no straps digging into my shoulders.

The blue to white to orange gradient fade.

86cm inseam

And it did not crush my nuts, two hours aero on the hoods and drops, two hours causal ride home on the tops and hoods.
Not bibs but skinsuit. The bottom half finishes just below the belly button. TThe natural stop required a little effort.

When I put then on, thought the legs were long, but photo (which I have not got of phone) has them sitting at about the same length as M MAAP and S Pedal Mafia bibs I wore last week.

Legend. Thanks mate. Just threw in an order for size Large too. I'm 188cm/91cm/80kg. Pretty excited to see how far AUD50 can go! I have a pro issue Kalas one I got from procyclingkitsales.com I can compare it to
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on November 08, 2023, 05:36:21 PM
Update on the Cheji skinsuit

Wore it for today's TT, which meant 110km round trip.

As with previous experience with Cheji bibs and that chamois, started getting discomfort after over three hours in saddle. Still survived the slog home into the head/crosswind.

Otherwise very comfortable with no straps digging into my shoulders.

The blue to white to orange gradient fade.

86cm inseam

And it did not crush my nuts, two hours aero on the hoods and drops, two hours causal ride home on the tops and hoods.
Not bibs but skinsuit. The bottom half finishes just below the belly button. TThe natural stop required a little effort.

When I put then on, thought the legs were long, but photo (which I have not got of phone) has them sitting at about the same length as M MAAP and S Pedal Mafia bibs I wore last week.

Mine came yesterday, really impressed from first impressions. I like the shape and density of the chamois, and the material is really stretchy and thin. Fits nicely! Time will tell if it holds up. Going to ride it today for the first time m
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: lantz on November 09, 2023, 03:01:39 PM
Any other _big boys_ in here?

I am 183cm (6ftish) and 107kg (235ishlbs) and have always struggled to scale cycling clothing sizing to my body. Don't mind wearing tight gear, but I've got XXL stuff from italian brands that fit more prohibitively than a size L jersey of an american maker.

So, my question is: has anyone of similar thiccboi status tried much of the known/good ali brands?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: raisinberry777 on November 11, 2023, 07:44:03 PM
Ordered a small haul from YKYWBike in the 11.11 sales. Chose YKYWBike since what I've had from them so far has been consistent in sizing and quality. Spexcel has been hit and miss on quality, sometimes it's great, other times it's terrible and sizing consistency between pieces is so-so. Happy with some of the cheaper pieces so trying some of the more premium pieces (e.g. Elastic Interface pad in the shorts).

YKYWBIKE Cycling Base Layer Men Undershirt Bicycle Bike Vest Summer
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005006157069096.htm

YKYWBIKE Cycling Bib Shorts Men Mountain Bottom With Elastic Interface Cushion
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005495749706.html

YKYWBIKE 2023 Men's MTB Bicycle Clothing Bike Jerseys Short Sleeve Pro Team Aero
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005476142982.html

Ykywbike Cycling Bib Shorts 3 4 Men 4 Hours Ride Padded Shorts
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005947951120.html

YKYWBIKE Autumn Cycling Jersey Breathable
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652429034.html

YKYWBIKE Cycling Short Socks Professional
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005003727127197.html

Total cost was $118 USD after discounts. The store is also advertising a free winter cap and winter gloves for >$100 spend, so with some luck I'll end up with those too.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: eddietheengineer on November 12, 2023, 08:02:02 AM
Ordered a small haul from YKYWBike in the 11.11 sales. Chose YKYWBike since what I've had from them so far has been consistent in sizing and quality. Spexcel has been hit and miss on quality, sometimes it's great, other times it's terrible and sizing consistency between pieces is so-so. Happy with some of the cheaper pieces so trying some of the more premium pieces (e.g. Elastic Interface pad in the shorts).

YKYWBIKE Cycling Base Layer Men Undershirt Bicycle Bike Vest Summer
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005006157069096.htm

YKYWBIKE Cycling Bib Shorts Men Mountain Bottom With Elastic Interface Cushion
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005495749706.html

YKYWBIKE 2023 Men's MTB Bicycle Clothing Bike Jerseys Short Sleeve Pro Team Aero
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005476142982.html

Ykywbike Cycling Bib Shorts 3 4 Men 4 Hours Ride Padded Shorts
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005947951120.html

YKYWBIKE Autumn Cycling Jersey Breathable
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652429034.html

YKYWBIKE Cycling Short Socks Professional
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005003727127197.html

Total cost was $118 USD after discounts. The store is also advertising a free winter cap and winter gloves for >$100 spend, so with some luck I'll end up with those too.

I've slowly been stocking up on YKYWBIKE clothes, I have short and long sleeve jerseys as well as standard bibs and 3/4 length bibs, and have a base layer on the way. I haven't tried their socks yet but I have a variety of socks from different sellers on the way!

I've been attempting to not buy another set of thermal bibs and a thermal jersey :) but we'll see how long that lasts.

Edit: List of things I've tried (6' 1", 185lbs)

6 hour bibs - EU L (could be a bit longer on the thigh--maybe I'll try an XL? but great otherwise)
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804421879566.html
note - here's link to Choice store that's cheaper: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805079818596.html

Short sleeve jersey - EU L
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832816604956.html

Long sleeve jersey - L (race fit, lightweight material)
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800907658475.html

3/4 bibs - EU L YSPBZ863 (lightweight material, decent length upper calf)
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805761636368.html

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Wet Noodle on November 12, 2023, 11:38:38 AM
Are there any recommendations for more casual, rugged, slightly baggy shorts/pants with decent pockets? You know, stuff for short(ish) rides and equally suited for off-the-bike time on stops or before/after rides (think commutes, shopping rides, moderate camping touring ...).
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on November 12, 2023, 03:34:28 PM
Total cost was $118 USD after discounts. The store is also advertising a free winter cap and winter gloves for >$100 spend, so with some luck I'll end up with those too.
don't let just luck work... send a message to the store, asking about the gifts and if there's anything else they can add, like a sock or something
I've already got socks, laundry bags, and other small gifts in much cheaper orders, just by asking
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on November 13, 2023, 03:26:46 PM
I tried Santic, but wasn't convinced. Poor fit and models.
They sponsor or did sponsor Wanty-Gobert world tour team.
So they must have some good things.

They do have good shoes. I have a pair of them and they are pretty stiff although the model I bought does not provide carbon sole.


I pulled the trigger on an Ykywbike thermofleece jacket. I am very curious about the fit.
Although I managed to fit the wrong sized Spexcel jacket to me,  I took the 11/11 sale. Let's see. I asked the store whether the dimensions in the sizing table belong to body or clothing and the answer was clothing. That's an important information,especially for the very elastic fabrics.


Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on November 13, 2023, 09:22:15 PM

YKYWBIKE Cycling Bib Shorts Men Mountain Bottom With Elastic Interface Cushion
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005495749706.html

I bought the elastic interface ykywbike bibs not too long ago also as an experiment. Pretty sure the elastic interface pad is fake. It's really entirely different from the dhb bibs I have, yet it's supposedly the same model elastic interface pad used in both. Completely different density, nowhere near as comfortable, seems sweatier, meh whatever, the quality of the bibs seem ok but I'm certain the pad is just a regular chinese crappy pad with some fake branding.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on November 13, 2023, 09:31:37 PM
Update on the Cheji skinsuit

Wore it for today's TT, which meant 110km round trip.

As with previous experience with Cheji bibs and that chamois, started getting discomfort after over three hours in saddle. Still survived the slog home into the head/crosswind.

Otherwise very comfortable with no straps digging into my shoulders.

The blue to white to orange gradient fade.

86cm inseam

And it did not crush my nuts, two hours aero on the hoods and drops, two hours causal ride home on the tops and hoods.
Not bibs but skinsuit. The bottom half finishes just below the belly button. TThe natural stop required a little effort.

When I put then on, thought the legs were long, but photo (which I have not got of phone) has them sitting at about the same length as M MAAP and S Pedal Mafia bibs I wore last week.

Gave mine a whirl the other day, love the thing. Hopefully it holds up over time. I grabbed another for aud47 all up on the 11.11 and with some coins.

Really like the chamois a lot, think it's on par with my higher end chamois honestly. In saying that, I don't ride for over 3 hours often, so don't have any fair long ride comparison.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on November 14, 2023, 01:09:50 AM
Pretty sure the elastic interface pad is fake. It's really entirely different from the dhb bibs I have, yet it's supposedly the same model elastic interface pad used in both. Completely different density, nowhere near as comfortable, seems sweatier, meh whatever, the quality of the bibs seem ok but I'm certain the pad is just a regular chinese crappy pad with some fake branding.
The Elastic Interface pad, I have in my YKYWbike and Cheji bibs is the real thing, Paris HP, https://www.elasticinterface.com/cycling-pad/crossover/ (https://www.elasticinterface.com/cycling-pad/crossover/) which was the same pad in my older DHB Aeron bibs. The newer DHB Aeron bibs have a custom Elastic Interface pad (which is what you can do if you order enough pads from Elastic Interface (like DHB, Assos, Rapha and many more brands).

That said, the Paris HP is older entry level pad. There are much better Elastic Interface pads available, but much more expensive. Think of the Paris HP as the Tiagra of Elastic Interface range. So Chinese brands like YKYWbike, Cheji and Rion are using a cheaper name pad to sell the products as premium.

I do like the Paris HP pad, it works well for me.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on November 14, 2023, 07:15:50 AM
The Elastic Interface pad, I have in my YKYWbike and Cheji bibs is the real thing, Paris HP, https://www.elasticinterface.com/cycling-pad/crossover/ (https://www.elasticinterface.com/cycling-pad/crossover/) which was the same pad in my older DHB Aeron bibs. The newer DHB Aeron bibs have a custom Elastic Interface pad (which is what you can do if you order enough pads from Elastic Interface (like DHB, Assos, Rapha and many more brands).

That said, the Paris HP is older entry level pad. There are much better Elastic Interface pads available, but much more expensive. Think of the Paris HP as the Tiagra of Elastic Interface range. So Chinese brands like YKYWbike, Cheji and Rion are using a cheaper name pad to sell the products as premium.

I do like the Paris HP pad, it works well for me.

the paris hp pad i have on my dhb is defo different to my ykyiykyiuiyykbike one. maybe i got a dud, i dunno *shrug*. the quality of the bibs is good, but the pad is crapola. maybe my experience is different to others idk.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on November 14, 2023, 10:28:07 AM
I have a YKYW bib with one of the 'endurance' pad variations, it's a softer pad it seems...
I don't have any reference, here in Brazil EI pads are hard to come about, and really expensive, so my reference are only other brands.
But this endurance pad is really good, I've got it for nearly 2yrs and it's still (almost) as good as new, it's comfortable and I can ride 4h+ on it without issues, it didn't loose too much density over the years, and I must've used it at least like 70 times
so even if it's fake, it's still very good and worth the price... but then again, this is comparing with other chinese pads, and local brazilian pads

That said, the Paris HP is older entry level pad. There are much better Elastic Interface pads available, but much more expensive. Think of the Paris HP as the Tiagra of Elastic Interface range. So Chinese brands like YKYWbike, Cheji and Rion are using a cheaper name pad to sell the products as premium.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: dsveddy on November 14, 2023, 11:08:00 AM
Anyone got recommendations on a one-piece skinsuit (preferably with pockets)? Looking to find a 'racesuit' type outfit but it seems like there's not much choice from the high quality brands on AliExpress.

As a fellow skinsuit-enjoyer, I've also been looking for one. Here's what my searches have come up with:

-VV Designs/VV Sportswear: Reviews show pockets. Reviews also show the fabric doesn't have aero-ribbing like the photos do

- Spelispos: Aero ribs and pockets--bingo! Except the "real" photos show the shorts have a seam, not that seamless compression band. Bummer. It's a long sleeve, but I have good experience just chopping the sleves in the past to make a SS.

-Velotec: These seem to be the nicest quality, but they also have no reviews. The long-sleeve models have a SINGLE pocket. The open-front-zip model seems to have two pockets. I'm also extremely confused by pricing, the Velotec website doesn't look like a "western" company, but the prices are 10x what they are on AliEx.

Lastly--anyone have experience with these "9D" or "20D" pads they put in these? It seems that across all the companies, you get a "9D" or "20D" pad, I'd love to hear some testimonials on what they're like.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on November 14, 2023, 11:13:53 AM
Lastly--anyone have experience with these "9D" or "20D" pads they put in these? It seems that across all the companies, you get a "9D" or "20D" pad, I'd love to hear some testimonials on what they're like.
Those pads are the worst of the worst. Absolute rubbish!

When I first discovered cycling slothing on Ali I made the mistake of ordering cheap bibs with a pad like that. It went straight to the garbage bin...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: dsveddy on November 15, 2023, 06:54:42 AM
Okay so now that I’ve done some digging and research, I’ve come upon Switfoto, which sells skinsuits and speed suits with an “Italy MITI” chamois…not really sure where it’s actually from but I trust it’s not trash. Suit has good reviews and aero sleeves, which is what I really want.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrZfCpW
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on November 15, 2023, 08:29:47 AM
Okay so now that I’ve done some digging and research, I’ve come upon Switfoto, which sells skinsuits and speed suits with an “Italy MITI” chamois…not really sure where it’s actually from but I trust it’s not trash. Suit has good reviews and aero sleeves, which is what I really want.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrZfCpW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIOI59mfcEg
This guy has review on it, but be careful it's a trisuit. They also have regular cycling clothes but they are either unavailable (unless I am blind) or overpriced on ali
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on November 16, 2023, 03:22:26 AM
...I pulled the trigger on an Ykywbike thermofleece jacket...
I was about to do it too... I'll wait for your feedback then  8)
Which one in particular ?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on November 16, 2023, 03:29:56 AM
Okay so now that I’ve done some digging and research, I’ve come upon Switfoto, which sells skinsuits and speed suits with an “Italy MITI” chamois…not really sure where it’s actually from but I trust it’s not trash. Suit has good reviews and aero sleeves, which is what I really want.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrZfCpW


Has anyone ever tried sewing the back of a cycling jersey onto a short?
Not as aero as a suit, but easier to have a good top/bottom fit, and keep the jersey in place.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on November 16, 2023, 03:49:50 AM
I was about to do it too... I'll wait for your feedback then  8)
Which one in particular ?

The only thermo wmn style  ;D
I am very curious about the fabric. The spexcel thermo fabric is awesome, very thin but warm and insulating. It would be great if the ykywbike was similar. I always chose the Spexcel thermo when I started early at cold temperatures and expected a warm day.

Chose the black grey white style. Pink is forbidden and the tomato red is not that appealing to me.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwwPBIV
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: dsveddy on November 16, 2023, 10:43:04 AM

Has anyone ever tried sewing the back of a cycling jersey onto a short?
Not as aero as a suit, but easier to have a good top/bottom fit, and keep the jersey in place.

For me this is the worst of all worlds. The main reasons I buy skinsuits is the cost savings and the aero benefit. But I suppose if your main concern is preventing the jersey from riding up, I don’t see why not!

I also think any attempt of mine to competently sew shorts to a jersey would be a catastrophe  ;D
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: dsveddy on November 16, 2023, 10:44:19 AM
Another update on the skinsuit hunt: anyone here tried KIAE? These look like properly expensive suits unfortunately, but seem to have the latest-and-greatest aero tech + premium EI pads.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: aeroskiii on November 16, 2023, 12:00:20 PM
using a rule28 replica right now
i had them make the sleeves super skinny and you gotta order 1-2 sizes too small and ask for a dif premium thin chamoise along with lighter fabrics
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on November 16, 2023, 03:16:51 PM

Has anyone ever tried sewing the back of a cycling jersey onto a short?
Not as aero as a suit, but easier to have a good top/bottom fit, and keep the jersey in place.

Not yet,  but there is no reason this could not work. Besides the fact that joining to highly elastic parts needs some experience in sewing, especially in deciding how the edges should be aligned. To much tension and it feels bad.. wrong joining and it looks bad...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PineappleExpress234 on November 22, 2023, 05:30:52 PM
Does anyone have recommendations for women's bib shorts?

I just bought a haul of mens bibs from YKYWBike and I'm really impressed, so much so my partner now wants a couple pairs. I've found the women's side of bibs really lacking?? Apart from YKYW I've been looking at Cheji and Darevie - though without ordering those two brands I'm worried I'll set my partner up to fail
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on November 23, 2023, 12:31:58 AM
Another update on the skinsuit hunt: anyone here tried KIAE? These look like properly expensive suits unfortunately, but seem to have the latest-and-greatest aero tech + premium EI pads.

They look decent. You getting one?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on November 23, 2023, 06:51:58 AM
Does anyone have recommendations for women's bib shorts?

I just bought a haul of mens bibs from YKYWBike and I'm really impressed, so much so my partner now wants a couple pairs. I've found the women's side of bibs really lacking?? Apart from YKYW I've been looking at Cheji and Darevie - though without ordering those two brands I'm worried I'll set my partner up to fail
since you already know YKYW and she liked the material/quality, I'd say to stick with it
only doubt would be for sizing, on that I'd recommend to go with the size table, and also message the store, the 'YKYWBike Official Store' seller always came through when I had doubts (or issues, also)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on November 23, 2023, 07:51:56 AM
Received aero socks today. Obviously can't try because it's below freezing and unlikely to notice a difference, but wouldn't this stitch line sticking out pretty much negate the aero gains all on its own?
(https://i.imgur.com/u31VdBX.png)
They feel excellent otherwise
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on November 23, 2023, 08:09:01 AM
Received aero socks today. Obviously can't try because it's below freezing and unlikely to notice a difference, but wouldn't this stitch line sticking out pretty much negate the aero gains all on its own?
(https://i.imgur.com/u31VdBX.png)
They feel excellent otherwise

Mine have the seam on the rear..
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: oversool on November 23, 2023, 08:12:36 AM
Recently received some clothing from Ali, thought I'd share my opinion :

- Ykywbike Winter Cycling Jersey 5-15°C
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004930149820.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.24.35e35e5bv9GjWN&gatewayAdapt=glo2fra (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004930149820.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.24.35e35e5bv9GjWN&gatewayAdapt=glo2fra)
Material is really soft and confortable on the skin. Also very thick so there are some crease around the belly when seated on the bike, the fit is very tight so I don't think there is a way around that. It's more a jacket than a jersey for me.

- Windproof Waterproof Lightweight Cycling Sleeveless Jacket
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005990967495.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.29.35e35e5bv9GjWN (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005990967495.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.29.35e35e5bv9GjWN)
For the price this is a no brainer imo. Can zip/unzip both ways, fit is snug, material is lightweight. Good for layering.

- Ykywbike Cycling Bib Shorts 3/4
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005947951120.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.47.35e35e5bv9GjWN (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005947951120.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.47.35e35e5bv9GjWN)
Bought in blue, it's really dark navy irl. Very comfortable, I rode for 3 hours last Sunday and all is well, I'll see how the padding holds up. The straps are also wide, which adds to the overall comfort. 3/4 stops mid-shin.

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on November 23, 2023, 12:52:58 PM
Does anyone have recommendations for women's bib shorts?

I just bought a haul of mens bibs from YKYWBike and I'm really impressed, so much so my partner now wants a couple pairs. I've found the women's side of bibs really lacking?? Apart from YKYW I've been looking at Cheji and Darevie - though without ordering those two brands I'm worried I'll set my partner up to fail


Personally I prefer the Darevie men's bibs because of the pad. I also do have the women's cut. The pad should be the most important thing to fit. And that's very personal.
Darevie Sizing of bibs is : men's S corresponds quite good to women's M. But the exact choice is difficult to tell. I asked the seller told. Him weight and height and also added the distribution of weight (skinny.cyclists upper body) and took this size and it was good.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_Euwbhzb


My women's Ykywbike thermo jacket arrived today.
I AM IMPRESSED.
Sizing instructions from the seller were correct. He suggested to go with Asia S. It's tight as I wanted it. The fabric is very fine quality... i can't of course tell it very clear but I was able to buy some very high quality thermal jersey fabric.. and this feels and looks very much the same.
What is besides that impressive: the sewing is very neatly done , very good. And then zipper is a YKK vislon. This is definitely good stuff if it comes to zippers.
And then there are a couple of reflective applications in the jacket
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EjHOGGl


Photo will be added..
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on November 24, 2023, 05:17:56 AM
Personally I prefer the Darevie men's bibs
Yes, I hardly had better shorts than these for the price, just a bit short on legs compared to their other shorts.
I just asked them if they plan to make winter tights with the same pad.
If we are many asking, maybe they will move  8)

My women's Ykywbike thermo jacket arrived today.
Great! I will go and ask them if they have the men equivalent.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Kraxler on November 24, 2023, 06:48:58 AM
I can recommend the Spexcel long sleeve jersey, linked below, for rides at temperatures around 5 - 10°C in combination with a thin baselayer, or as a jersey under a winter jacket at lower temperatures.

The front of the jersey is lined with fleece so that the wind doesn't get through.

I wear the jersey with a height of 179cm and a weight of 80kg in size XXL and it fits perfectly.

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003545798767.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.14.1066327e8g0s8V&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2034%2C40%21%E2%82%AC%2025%2C23%21%21%2136.62%2126.86%21%4021038ed817008296443376430e84ce%2112000026236852784%21sh%21DE%211984007265%21 (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003545798767.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.14.1066327e8g0s8V&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2034%2C40%21%E2%82%AC%2025%2C23%21%21%2136.62%2126.86%21%4021038ed817008296443376430e84ce%2112000026236852784%21sh%21DE%211984007265%21)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on November 24, 2023, 08:47:16 AM
Yes, I hardly had better shorts than these for the price, just a bit short on legs compared to their other shorts.
I just asked them if they plan to make winter tights with the same pad.
If we are many asking, maybe they will move  8)
Great! I will go and ask them if they have the men equivalent.

They have much more men's styles  ;)
Although uncommon for clothing... for cycling clothing women's style is still much less available than men's.
Here are some photos. The thermo jersey is a slightly thinner than the spexcel type. I think it's possible to put it into one of the back bags .. that's what I usually did this summer, when I started early in the cold morning and ended lately in the warm afternoon.  I am not able to freeze the first 2 hours of a daytrip.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PineappleExpress234 on November 26, 2023, 12:03:21 AM
I finally went for a ride in my YKYW bibs and well, the chamois (grey) is too thick in the perineum. The bibs are incredibly soft and well made, but after a quick half hour ride it felt like I'd been straddling a handrail.
I've ordered a Ryet carbon saddle with a generous centre cut out so I'm hoping that'll alleviate that issue - I'm so bummed out because the bibs are so well made.

 Would anyone know if it's possible to shave or permanently compress the foam in that area?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on November 26, 2023, 09:29:03 AM
I finally went for a ride in my YKYW bibs and well, the chamois (grey) is too thick in the perineum. The bibs are incredibly soft and well made, but after a quick half hour ride it felt like I'd been straddling a handrail.
I've ordered a Ryet carbon saddle with a generous centre cut out so I'm hoping that'll alleviate that issue - I'm so bummed out because the bibs are so well made.

 Would anyone know if it's possible to shave or permanently compress the foam in that area?

Cutting something out of the pad will end up in sharp edges. This will probably make it worse. Even if you remove it and cut it from the back. That's not the stuff you can adjust after the foam has been put into shape.
If this pad doesn't suit you,  it's sad, but then this bib is not a good one for you.
 The pad is the most important thing on a bib. I have an expensive Castelli.. can only use it up to 50km.. :(

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: eddietheengineer on November 26, 2023, 06:41:41 PM
I've been liking my YKYW kits enough (short sleeve jersey + regular bibs, and then long sleeve lightweight jersey + 3/4 bibs) that I ended up asking for their ~-5 to 10C thermal bibs and jacket and -10C thermal gloves for Christmas. After coupons, the entire set was only $~65 which I was pretty happy with!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on November 29, 2023, 07:37:57 AM
Received YKYW kit and the jersey is COMICALLY large. EU L/Asia XL just like my darevie but it feels like a 3XL to the point I kind of feel scammed
I remember someone (Tidydinosaur?) getting a refund because of a sizing error, I'm considering complaining but don't know how to approach it, do I just tell them it feels way too big? Also what brand did you get a refund from? They were bought from the official YKYW store
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on November 29, 2023, 07:47:24 AM
Received YKYW kit and the jersey is COMICALLY large. EU L/Asia XL just like my darevie but it feels like a 3XL to the point I kind of feel scammed
I remember someone (Tidydinosaur?) getting a refund because of a sizing error, I'm considering complaining but don't know how to approach it, do I just tell them it feels way too big? Also what brand did you get a refund from? They were bought from the official YKYW store

Yes, it was me. I ordered a thermal jacket in S, but it was way too small. I ordered a L afterwards and that fit. I recently ordered the M since I've lost some weight. They are frequent choice items so they are about 18USD after coupons.
This was at the beginning of my Ali addiction and before I looked at the size tables. Since checking these I have rarely made that mistake (the Deravie jerseys are very small). I just measure a jersey that fits and compare the size table. I know now that I need about 45cm 1/2 chest size. This can be a S, or an M depending on the brand / model...
The store was"YKYWBIKE YKYWBIKE Cycling Store"
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Crash217 on November 29, 2023, 10:03:37 AM
SportSpy Aero Socks;
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832828226613.html

Socks are really nice for $7.44usd I spent on them.  The anti-slip silicone band across the top is nice, and the fit was very nice. I normally wear a 40 shoe.
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YKYW Socks;
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803048314997.html

Great socks for $6.48usd.  The orange color really pops. Sizing is spot on for me I normally wear a 40 shoe.
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YKYW Thermal Bib Tights;
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803116373954.html

Considering they're full length insulated, its a nice bib for $48.  Sizing is just a tad larger than I expected, but the fit is "OK". The chamois sits just a little high/far back for my preference.  Material and insulation is very nice. Have used them down to 40 degrees so far and they are plenty warm riding a MTB in the woods at that temp.  Comparison;  I got some Rion thermal bibs before these that while I appreciated the zippered belly and ankle cuffs, they were much too large for me in the waist/shoulders and too small in the calf/ankle area.  They didn't fit my body shape very well.  I gave them to a buddy of mine who is about 4 inches taller than me and he loves them.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on November 29, 2023, 11:29:31 AM
Yes, it was me. I ordered a thermal jacket in S, but it was way too small. I ordered a L afterwards and that fit. I recently ordered the M since I've lost some weight. They are frequent choice items so they are about 18USD after coupons.
This was at the beginning of my Ali addiction and before I looked at the size tables. Since checking these I have rarely made that mistake (the Deravie jerseys are very small). I just measure a jersey that fits and compare the size table. I know now that I need about 45cm 1/2 chest size. This can be a S, or an M depending on the brand / model...
The store was"YKYWBIKE YKYWBIKE Cycling Store"

What did you say to convince them to give you a refund? Did you admit you ordered the wrong one or gaslit them into thinking they sent the wrong one?
I personally did have references, my darevies are EU L/asia XL and I did check the sizing chart, but it's just so wrong. It should have been my size but it's huge
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on November 29, 2023, 02:35:16 PM
What did you say to convince them to give you a refund? Did you admit you ordered the wrong one or gaslit them into thinking they sent the wrong one?
I personally did have references, my darevies are EU L/asia XL and I did check the sizing chart, but it's just so wrong. It should have been my size but it's huge

You can't just order the same size from a different company. Even for western brands that's not working. And this is why trying a new brand is probably disgusting.
If you take the sizing table. These values correspond to the jacket measurements (for ykyw.. that may be different for others).
When you measure that values. Are they in agreement to the table?

And why is it important to know whether the table indicates fabric or body measurement: E.g. if you have 100cm fabric measurement on the chest , your chest measurement must be larger, cause the elastic stuff is designed for minus values. If the jacket and your body have the same measurement, it will be to large. It's pretty ugly to get the right sizes when it's so easy ṭo get in this trap. And then it's also a question of ,'design'. If the designer wanted that to be very tight ,a size up could be good. And the other way round.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on November 30, 2023, 04:46:05 AM
What did you say to convince them to give you a refund? Did you admit you ordered the wrong one or gaslit them into thinking they sent the wrong one?
I personally did have references, my darevies are EU L/asia XL and I did check the sizing chart, but it's just so wrong. It should have been my size but it's huge
No, I just said it was too small... In the end I was partly to blame because I had not checked the size tables. But it was one of my first jerseys I bought on Ali (1,5-2 years ago) and I was still young and inexperienced  ;) I just assumed an S would fit me... But I couldn't even get the zipper to close so I gave it to my 12 year old nephew.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on December 01, 2023, 06:06:30 AM
Received YKYW kit and the jersey is COMICALLY large. EU L/Asia XL just like my darevie but it feels like a 3XL to the point I kind of feel scammed
I've gone through this kind of sizing error with Spexcel, a jersey that was an S but the measurements were of an XS. I've just took photos of the measuring tape showing it was like 50cm instead of 54cm and sent as attachment in the dispute, this was enough to get full refund

particularly I've never had this kind of problem with YKYW, their clothing was always according to the size table
but the size varies according to the brand, so it's like Pedaldancer said, you have to check with each one. I know my Darevie size is different from YKYW for example.
Some specific clothing may vary too - like one bib model is slightly different from the other - but usually is within range. I still double-check before purchasing, just to be sure. Sometimes it's like ordering something that has 'comfort' fit versus 'aero' fit

The store was"YKYWBIKE YKYWBIKE Cycling Store"
I think it's legit, but this store is just strange, the store and product pages, idk... I always buy on the 'Official Store', but could as well be the same just named different... (prices vary too)

You can't just order the same size from a different company. Even for western brands that's not working. And this is why trying a new brand is probably disgusting.
If you take the sizing table. These values correspond to the jacket measurements (for ykyw.. that may be different for others).
When you measure that values. Are they in agreement to the table?

And why is it important to know whether the table indicates fabric or body measurement: E.g. if you have 100cm fabric measurement on the chest , your chest measurement must be larger, cause the elastic stuff is designed for minus values. If the jacket and your body have the same measurement, it will be to large. It's pretty ugly to get the right sizes when it's so easy ṭo get in this trap. And then it's also a question of ,'design'. If the designer wanted that to be very tight ,a size up could be good. And the other way round.
yeah, it's always complex to buy this kind of stuff online. And with western brands the description usually says what kind of fit it is, recommends the sizing accordingly. But it's not like Ali stores work, so even 'studying' the sizes you're still in a kind of 'hit or miss' situation
on top of having my body measures and comparing to the product's size table, I also compare the size tables between a bib/jersey I have and fit me well (ideally same brand) with the new one and see how they match. And you can also ask the seller what he recommends if you're between sizes and still in doubt
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on December 01, 2023, 11:11:09 AM
I've gone through this kind of sizing error with Spexcel, a jersey that was an S but the measurements were of an XS. I've just took photos of the measuring tape showing it was like 50cm instead of 54cm and sent as attachment in the dispute, this was enough to get full refund

particularly I've never had this kind of problem with YKYW, their clothing was always according to the size table
but the size varies according to the brand, so it's like Pedaldancer said, you have to check with each one. I know my Darevie size is different from YKYW for example.
Some specific clothing may vary too - like one bib model is slightly different from the other - but usually is within range. I still double-check before purchasing, just to be sure. Sometimes it's like ordering something that has 'comfort' fit versus 'aero' fit
I think it's legit, but this store is just strange, the store and product pages, idk... I always buy on the 'Official Store', but could as well be the same just named different... (prices vary too)
yeah, it's always complex to buy this kind of stuff online. And with western brands the description usually says what kind of fit it is, recommends the sizing accordingly. But it's not like Ali stores work, so even 'studying' the sizes you're still in a kind of 'hit or miss' situation
on top of having my body measures and comparing to the product's size table, I also compare the size tables between a bib/jersey I have and fit me well (ideally same brand) with the new one and see how they match. And you can also ask the seller what he recommends if you're between sizes and still in doubt


With Spexcel I had the same unpleasant experience. The table that showed fabric sizes was indicating M instead of  XS (that's far off) . Plus i already have several XS Spexcel jerseys and the same jacket in my cycling stuff.
Ali was on my side. I did exactly the same.

The YKYWBIKE jacket size corresponds to the table. That's fine. But the values are significantly smaller than my body measurements.
Of course one is not a good statistic. And mistakes do happen, which I asked whether the jacket and table are in good agreement. If there is a deviation, it makes sense to start a dispute.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Greenred on December 03, 2023, 02:35:41 AM
My experience with YKY: amazing quality but sizing can be trial and error without consistency across models.

Their longsleeve jerseys run 1-2 sizes larger though. I bought European M and it was definitely at least an L.
On the contrary, their short sleeved jerseys fit true to size. A European M is an actual M.

Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Kraxler on December 05, 2023, 01:55:03 AM
For shirts, I always refer to the size chart with the measurements for chest circumference and back length.

This has worked very well for the brands Spexcel, Rion and YKY.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: eddietheengineer on December 10, 2023, 04:29:48 PM
First ride with these today since the weather has gotten colder again where I live.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804743883744.html
-Winter cycling jersey - pretty heavy/thick, good size for me (Asia XL/EU L, 185cm, 81kg). I wore a thin summer jersey underneath since the inside is pretty "fleece" like and I was worried about sweat. Throughout the ride (38F, 8mph winds) I didn't feel warm, but I wasn't uncomfortably cold either. I did feel a bit damp though--so it doesn't quite feel like it was breathing all that well. I was really glad with the wrist/sleeves though, since they sealed off well to my gloves. Overall--I'm content with it.

-Winter thermal bibs - These are really nice, the only thing is that they are right on the verge of being uncomfortably tight (same Asia XL/EU L as above). They don't stretch as much as a typical bib, so pedaling feels like your legs are being constricted. If I could order again, I would get one size up.

-Gloves - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803497513742.html
- I measured my hand and picked the L based on the sizing, but the sizing is really tight. I can barely get my hands in them. They were warm enough for this ride, but I don't think they would be enough if it was a bit colder.

Edit - just checked their current price ($135 for this set!!), I paid $68 for everything. I don't think I'd buy them at all at their current price.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Bigal on January 07, 2024, 04:53:57 AM
-Gloves - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803497513742.html
- I measured my hand and picked the L based on the sizing, but the sizing is really tight. I can barely get my hands in them. They were warm enough for this ride, but I don't think they would be enough if it was a bit colder.

I have these gloves also. They are good intermediate Spring/Autumn glove. Certainly not -10 . I also had the size L which I had not issue with size wise.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: aufsatzmusik on January 07, 2024, 08:14:57 PM
Any other options other than YKYW that use an Elastic Interface pad? I'm looking to replicate the DHB Aeron Bibs which I get along with the best out of what I currently have. Unfortunately due to Wiggle not shipping to the US any more, it looks like I need to find an alternative.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: ENEP on January 08, 2024, 01:10:22 AM
RION, HISERWA and DAREVIE use Elastic Interface in some of their bibs.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: jonathanf2 on January 09, 2024, 02:23:49 PM
Has anyone looked in the AliEx Choice deals? There's quite a few thermal cycling gloves for $1.79. I just bought a pair mainly because my area is having an uncharacteristic cold winter. My half finger gloves are leaving my hands ice cold!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on January 09, 2024, 05:56:34 PM
Add Cheji to the list of elastic interface bibs. And they're actually not counterfeit like some of the other aliexpress ones.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: cramy on January 20, 2024, 06:00:47 AM
looking for a new bib, as anyone already tried the souke.cc one> I see some good reviews on them but price is not cheap.
So wanted to know if some of you are wearing their products.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: ENEP on January 21, 2024, 02:31:29 PM
Add Cheji to the list of elastic interface bibs. And they're actually not counterfeit like some of the other aliexpress ones.

You mean that the Elastic Interface pad is fake in some AliExpress products? I’ve read about it elsewhere too. Do you have personal experience with fake EI pads? I’m also interested in some of the EI-padded bibs, your advice of products to avoid would be highly appreciated.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: dsveddy on January 21, 2024, 10:59:25 PM
Just wanted to check back in after riding my Swiftofo "triathlon suit" with "Italy Miti" pad:

It's alright. It checks the basic boxes of what I was looking for: pockets, decent pad, ribbed/aero textile. The pad, as I suspected (and hoped), is not a triathlon pad but a proper road pad.

The only knock I'll give it is the neck is just a bit too loose, when I really tuck it starts to crease/lose tension a bit. Everything else about fit on my suit is pretty much dead-on so I just think the design needs adjustment.

Value for money I would say is 4/5.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on January 29, 2024, 09:26:01 AM
You mean that the Elastic Interface pad is fake in some AliExpress products? I’ve read about it elsewhere too. Do you have personal experience with fake EI pads? I’m also interested in some of the EI-padded bibs, your advice of products to avoid would be highly appreciated.

Yeah mate, I've had a couple and they've been obvious fakes when compared to a real version, whether that be from cheji or other european brands. The 'Paris hp' pad that's used most commonly seems to be the one that has the most fakes floating around.

This is just my experience, take it with a grain of salz
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: ENEP on January 30, 2024, 01:55:21 AM
Yeah mate, I've had a couple and they've been obvious fakes when compared to a real version, whether that be from cheji or other european brands. The 'Paris hp' pad that's used most commonly seems to be the one that has the most fakes floating around.

This is just my experience, take it with a grain of salz

Thanks mate!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: cramy on January 30, 2024, 02:28:59 AM
Any product link that could help, with EI pad?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on February 19, 2024, 08:12:31 AM
sometime ago there was some talk about long leg/thigh bibs, I've just got 2 bibs which maybe can fit whoever is looking for this..

After almost 2yrs using my YKYW bibs - which were the 'go to' for long rides - the foam started to not support as much (still good for ~3h tho), and especially that I've crashed while mtbiking with my favorite one and it scratched a little the side panel (just wore out the fabric, no opening tho)
So I've decided to try some new ones... risked on a Spexcel, although I had bad experience with them 2yrs ago, and also wanted to try a Lameda one, especially after it got complimented by Jon/ChinaCycling as something like 'best chinese bib'

So, this Spexcel (https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrpkAW2) one impressed me, quality is superb, straps are comfortable and hold well in place, the fabric is comfy too. The pad reminds the EI Paris one, is thick and for a 4-5hr ride it held really well.
the leg is long, about 2-3cm longer than the ones I got from YKYW and Darevie, although the same size (EU Small, or Asia M). And even on this long ride it held well to my skin, didn't went up much, to the point that it was just about to pinch the back of my knee when pedaling.
overall, liked it a lot! The green is beautiful.

The Lameda Starlight (https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPpkc2i) I've had issues... The sizing table is a bit wrong, I saw multiple pages on Aliexpress and even the PandaPodium one, through measures and weight I'd be a EU M size, which I've ordered, but unfortunately was a bit big.
What is strange is that the leg is pretty long, getting down to my knee, but the upper part and straps are comparable to the YKYW I have, bit smaller even. So I ended up passing on to a friend who's slightly bigger and to him it was perfect.
In the end, if I had gone with the size I'm used to with chinese brands (EU Small, Asian M) it'd be ok. What I can say, having ridden it for 10-15 minutes, is that the fabric is really good and comfortable, the 2 panel/seamless construction is nicely done, the quality honestly impressed me. The padding seemed thick and comfortable, but was a short use so cannot vouch for it
Main point is, the leg is long, similar to Spexcel, so I believe for the smaller size would be perfect. I'll order it next and see if it works

Any product link that could help, with EI pad?
The YKYW ones I can say are legit, I have 2 from them
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on February 25, 2024, 05:22:33 AM
Found a new skinsuit
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005203097272.html
Also potentially interesting
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006389298648.html
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on February 25, 2024, 07:03:46 AM
Found a new skinsuit
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005203097272.html
Not a skinsuit I would choose
The 9D Gel (thick pad) is one of the worst  pads I have ever ridden in: thick, bulky and uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: dsveddy on February 25, 2024, 12:09:23 PM
New skinsuit I have my eye on is GCBIG. Seems that they have an EI-Paris pad option. Anyone have thoughts or reviews?
www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806064509030 (http://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806064509030)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on February 26, 2024, 07:48:36 AM
New skinsuit I have my eye on is GCBIG. Seems that they have an EI-Paris pad option. Anyone have thoughts or reviews?
www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806064509030 (http://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806064509030)
The link appears to be broken
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: dsveddy on February 26, 2024, 08:35:04 AM
[url]http://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806064509030.html[\url]

Try this?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: eddietheengineer on February 26, 2024, 05:52:49 PM

the leg is long, about 2-3cm longer than the ones I got from YKYW and Darevie, although the same size (EU Small, or Asia M). And even on this long ride it held well to my skin, didn't went up much, to the point that it was just about to pinch the back of my knee when pedaling.
overall, liked it a lot! The green is beautiful.


Thanks for this, I'll need to try these out. I went up a size with YKYW hoping the leg length would be a bit better but they're still pretty short.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on February 26, 2024, 09:46:24 PM
[url]http://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806064509030.html[\url]

Try this?

Don't see an EI pad option. Is that the right item?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: dsveddy on February 26, 2024, 10:05:43 PM
The photo of the “thick silica gel pad” is a EI pad, I’m hoping it’s legit
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on February 27, 2024, 02:03:10 AM
The photo of the “thick silica gel pad” is a EI pad, I’m hoping it’s legit
The only review on AliExpress of CGBIG skin/trisuits is one star no comment https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006244804848.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006244804848.html)

I would wait for a few more sales and reviews

ps as a lot of the photos used in that store are not their own, ie taken from other websites or sellers, I would be suspicious about it having a EI pad
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: sbellote on February 27, 2024, 09:32:32 AM
if they don't advertise it as an EI pad, there's no way it's legit...
supposedly, the EI pad is higher cost, manufacturers pay extra to have the brand associated with them, so why would they pay more but not take advantage of the EI name to sell more? For me it just doesn't make sense...

my logic to buying clothes from Ali is to stick to known brands and known stores, with dozens/hundreds of sales and feedback.
Otherwise, it's just risk-taking. I'm then accepting the risk that could be money lost when a product without any quality is delivered...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: erickr on February 27, 2024, 07:46:25 PM
also a fan of these bibs from Rion https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832726343269.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832726343269.html)
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Crash217 on February 27, 2024, 09:05:43 PM
also a fan of these bibs from Rion https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832726343269.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832726343269.html)

I picked up some thermal bibs from Rion right at the beginning of the winter. 

Quality wise they are really nice, but their smallest size is waaaay to big for me (165cm tall, 55.3kg) I gave them to a buddy who is about 175cm tall and 72kg and he loves them.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: carbonazza on February 28, 2024, 05:11:22 AM
I picked up some thermal bibs from Rion...

Do you have a link to the model you picked ?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Crash217 on February 28, 2024, 08:20:07 AM
Do you have a link to the model you picked ?

Looks like the ones I ordered are longer available.  Shame, I really liked the zippers on the leg cuffs and just above the front chamois. (why isn't that a bigger thing?)
http://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804849170372.html

I wound up with some thermal bibs from YKYW that are nice, but not as comfy as my DeMarchi summer bibs.  The smallest size is still a tiny bit too big in the chamois/waist area.
http://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803116373954.html
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: nickobec on February 29, 2024, 07:06:35 AM
my logic to buying clothes from Ali is to stick to known brands and known stores, with dozens/hundreds of sales and feedback.
Otherwise, it's just risk-taking. I'm then accepting the risk that could be money lost when a product without any quality is delivered...
Same here, I have taken risks a few times, knowing it was a risk and been disappointed almost every time.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: brifter5 on February 29, 2024, 12:13:16 PM
From Temu,
https://share.temu.com/UW85epHXFfA

I tried it, pad was ok as long as you don't have wide sit bones. It's not very wide. Seemed dense.
I like the material of the fabric. stitching seemed to hold up so far.
Ran a little long on the leg and size was a little big so i'm trying out a smaller size.
No pockets.
----
https://share.temu.com/JnHv9b63HDA

Ran a little longer
Pad seems supple
Runs big so Im trying a smaller size then usual
Does have pockets
Seems very breathable
Shoulder Straps feel good


Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Serge_K on March 01, 2024, 04:22:58 AM
I havent taken the time to read much of this thread, but FYI, i just bought from the "Darevie official store" on Aliexpress a bib with the "elastic interface Paris HP men" pad, which afaik is very well regarded (120kg/m3 density in some parts, all foam, no gel), for 29 eur, shipped to Europe. It's black, nothing special, but it's the 1st time i see BIB at this price point with this pad.
It's under the "choiceday" thing on aliexpress, so it's unlikely to last, i guess? Headline price (BS, for sure, but still) is 70 eur. Their lower spec BIB from the same store is several euro more expensive.
The store itself has thousands of transactions, 98% positive reviews, blablabla.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: ausmtb8989 on March 01, 2024, 05:05:19 AM
also a fan of these bibs from Rion https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832726343269.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832726343269.html)

Bought a couple recently, and quite impressed with them.  I'll be getting more.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: PLA on March 01, 2024, 07:27:28 AM
I havent taken the time to read much of this thread, but FYI, i just bought from the "Darevie official store" on Aliexpress a bib with the "elastic interface Paris HP men" pad, which afaik is very well regarded (120kg/m3 density in some parts, all foam, no gel), for 29 eur, shipped to Europe. It's black, nothing special, but it's the 1st time i see BIB at this price point with this pad.
It's under the "choiceday" thing on aliexpress, so it's unlikely to last, i guess? Headline price (BS, for sure, but still) is 70 eur. Their lower spec BIB from the same store is several euro more expensive.
The store itself has thousands of transactions, 98% positive reviews, blablabla.

I tried a pair of these and the leg was short and the opening strangled my thigh.

Can't say I was overly impressed with em
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on March 01, 2024, 08:04:17 AM
The rion bibs look like they are the same as my YKYWbike bibs and I'm not the biggest fan of the pad. It's very stiff and doesn't conform to the saddle very well
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: brifter5 on March 02, 2024, 10:36:18 PM
I tried a pair of these and the leg was short and the opening strangled my thigh.

Can't say I was overly impressed with em

I had one pair from ali that strangled my thigh too. That was really odd. Can't wear them at all. I've worn various brands outside of ali and never had that happen.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: cramy on March 20, 2024, 04:56:02 AM
Bought a couple recently, and quite impressed with them.  I'll be getting more.

which size did you take? and what is your height and weight, looking to buy the same.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: feris0n on March 31, 2024, 09:34:48 PM
I was just wondering what are the best brands to get cycling leg and arm warmers on ali from everyone's experience?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Kraxler on April 02, 2024, 11:30:16 AM
I use these warmer from Ykywbike - good fit (EU size L -> size XL) - they are ok for me.

Link: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005006103051131.html?pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2026%2C05%21%E2%82%AC%2024%2C73%21%21%2127.31%2125.93%21%40211b600b17120750457352043e2274%2112000035755883989%21sh%21DE%211984007265%21&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.new_all_items_2007508669483.1005006103051131&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005006103051131.html?pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2026%2C05%21%E2%82%AC%2024%2C73%21%21%2127.31%2125.93%21%40211b600b17120750457352043e2274%2112000035755883989%21sh%21DE%211984007265%21&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.new_all_items_2007508669483.1005006103051131&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu)



Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: kbernstein on April 02, 2024, 12:14:21 PM
I use these warmer from Ykywbike - good fit (EU size L -> size XL) - they are ok for me.

Link: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005006103051131.html?pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2026%2C05%21%E2%82%AC%2024%2C73%21%21%2127.31%2125.93%21%40211b600b17120750457352043e2274%2112000035755883989%21sh%21DE%211984007265%21&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.new_all_items_2007508669483.1005006103051131&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005006103051131.html?pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2026%2C05%21%E2%82%AC%2024%2C73%21%21%2127.31%2125.93%21%40211b600b17120750457352043e2274%2112000035755883989%21sh%21DE%211984007265%21&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.new_all_items_2007508669483.1005006103051131&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu)

For what temperature, and how cold do you run? 10-20°C is both too broad and too hot to be meaningful to me. 10c is when i START to get uncomfortable with a short sleeve jersey, 25€ is pretty nuts when there are whole thermal jerseys at that price. Unless "10-20c" means it adds 10 to 20c which is a bold claim too. They don't show the material, thickness or inside either.
Sidenote, first ride today with x-tiger shoe covers and I'm sold. $3 and I definitely could feel the warmth. Easy to put on aswell, great purchase
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Kraxler on April 02, 2024, 12:33:34 PM
The inside is lined with fleece and keeps you very warm at temperatures around 10°C.
For rides at 20°C they would definitely be too warm for me - from around 15°C I always ride in short jerseys whitout warmer.
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: jhearrtot on April 03, 2024, 09:06:06 AM
so I ordered a YKYWBIKE 3/4 bib during the Anniversary sale and it just arrived yesterday.

The quality is so good, especially the Elastic Interface chamois.

One thing I noticed though is that I possibly derped when I ordered it, not knowing it was for women ;D

But hey, it still fits great!
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Pedaldancer on April 03, 2024, 01:14:58 PM
so I ordered a YKYWBIKE 3/4 bib during the Anniversary sale and it just arrived yesterday.

The quality is so good, especially the Elastic Interface chamois.

One thing I noticed though is that I possibly derped when I ordered it, not knowing it was for women ;D

But hey, it still fits great!
;D if it fits, just use it.
I like men's bibs more.. since there is no obvious marking... and even if ...
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: Kraxler on April 04, 2024, 02:15:03 AM
Hello,
I am looking for good quality MTB T-shirts for enduro, XC and touring use.

Does anyone have any experience with T-shirts that are available from Aliexpress?
Title: Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Post by: pushpush on April 04, 2024, 09:20:44 AM
so I ordered a YKYWBIKE 3/4 bib during the Anniversary sale and it just arrived yesterday.

The quality is so good, especially the Elastic Interface chamois.

One thing I noticed though is that I possibly derped when I ordered it, not knowing it was for women ;D

But hey, it still fits great!

I have a couple ykyw bib shorts. They are good for the price and I use them on the trainer mostly. I don't find them to be as comfortable as my PI and PMCC bibs even though I bought the more expensive ykyw. But for $40 bucks each, these are ideal for trainer use and having some spare bibs around. The quality however is excellent IMO. Good materials, good stitching and construction, smooth seams, comfortable straps.

FWIW, I am 6' / 170lbs, long torso and short legs. YKYW AsianXL are a good fit. I could probably squeeze into an AsianL for more compression, but that might be too small.