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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: bruto on August 10, 2020, 11:17:47 PM
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long AF
https://www.lightcarbon.com/lightcarbon-2020-am-full-suspension-enduro-mtb-frame_p160.html
no idea about price or availability
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Damn Bruto, why would you do that? Just when I'm almost off the fence on ordering an FM10 you throw this up. 77 degree seat angle, I think that is about the steepest I have seen.
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I wonder why nobody built this bike..cant find finished one.. https://www.lightcarbon.com/new-lightcarbon-best-downhill-carbon-mountain-bike-frameset-dh209_p130.html
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It's a sweet one!
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long AF
https://www.lightcarbon.com/lightcarbon-2020-am-full-suspension-enduro-mtb-frame_p160.html
no idea about price or availability
interesting. I'm hoping they add a new gravel bike to their range too. Something more progressive with better tire clearance.
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I just got a reply from them, it's available for pre-order, lead time 2 months.
USD $698 per set,
USD $660 per set for 20 pieces
It's not UV resistant so either get them to paint or you can paint it yourself.
Just about to place an order for myself.
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I wonder why nobody built this bike..cant find finished one.. https://www.lightcarbon.com/new-lightcarbon-best-downhill-carbon-mountain-bike-frameset-dh209_p130.html
It hasn't been on their site for long, so I doubt anyone has received one yet. Looks like a great Enduro option with more modern geometry.
For all you BIS (bike idiot savants), what is this one a clone of? I always assume most of these are based on or started out as an OEM production frame.
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I like the idea of the rear cover over the split seat tube
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185x555 shock compatible, damnit
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I just got a reply from them, it's available for pre-order, lead time 2 months.
USD $698 per set,
USD $660 per set for 20 pieces
It's not UV resistant so either get them to paint or you can paint it yourself.
Just about to place an order for myself.
I think they say that because they want you to pay for paint. Carbon and epoxy or polyester resin is UV resistant on it's own. normally there is no need to add paint. There are so many bare carbon bikes out there with just a clear coat on and clear coat won't give you any UV resistance. So either they are using very cheap reasin which degrades in sunlight or they want you to pay for paint.
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Probably but they didn't ask me to get the paint though, just whether I wanted a matte or glossy finishing for the unpainted frame.
I asked about it and that's what they replied. I would love to be able to paint it myself but I paint like a 4 year old and I don't have a proper place to do the painting myself - between that with high humidity and dust, it'll end up horribly crappy. Plus getting someone to do it over where I am costs just as much if not more. So just decided to splurge on it.
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This give gentleman will probably give you a little discount: gavin.woo@lightcarbon.com
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185x555 shock compatible, damnit
expensive option..
Cane Creek DBCoil CS Rear Shock - 185 x 55mm, Trunnion
Fox Float DPX2 Factory Trunnion 185x55 2018 Shock
FOX DHX2 Factory Rear Shock - Trunnion Metric, 185 x 55 mm
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I just got a reply from them, it's available for pre-order, lead time 2 months.
USD $698 per set,
USD $660 per set for 20 pieces
It's not UV resistant so either get them to paint or you can paint it yourself.
Just about to place an order for myself.
did u pull the trigger?
https://www.yishunbike.com/2020-am-full-suspension-enduro-mtb-frame-fs947_p136.html
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Yep I did. Now just waiting for them to complete the build and ship it out.
I have some spare xtr brakes and shifter laying around. I still have a backup dropper and cockpit parts.. Manage to score a barely used dpx2 for $250.
What’s left is to get some 29er wheelset and fork. Using the waiting time to save up for those.
Can’t wait for the frame to arrive.
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lightcarbon link for that frame does not work any more,i guess u ordered from yishunbike?
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Actually I ordered with lightcarbon before the link went down and came up on yishunbikes.
Was in contact with a Wendy.
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Geo looks good! 8)
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For all you BIS (bike idiot savants), what is this one a clone of? I always assume most of these are based on or started out as an OEM production frame.
Reminds me of the KHS sixfifty 7500, but with larger wheels and a modern geo.
(https://khsbicycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/19-sixfifty-7500-1200.jpg)
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I think the KHS is a VPP. Maybe something like a Transition in geometry. Slightly different linkage angles. When will this frame be available?
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Which one? The LCFS947? You can order it now but it takes about 2 months for delivery.
I should get mine some time in October.
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Which one? The LCFS947? You can order it now but it takes about 2 months for delivery.
I should get mine some time in October.
That's less than a month away.
I've posted an online inquiry last month on Yishunbike (indicated my email address) but have yet to receive a reply.
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For all you BIS (bike idiot savants), what is this one a clone of? I always assume most of these are based on or started out as an OEM production frame.
I guess this bike is designed by someone for Light Carbon, I know one of their other FS frames was designed by a guy in the US. But by the looks its similar to Transition Sentinel but not a clone.
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That's less than a month away.
I've posted an online inquiry last month on Yishunbike (indicated my email address) but have yet to receive a reply.
I can forward the email of the person I’ve been in contact with if you want.
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I can forward the email of the person I’ve been in contact with if you want.
I've also tried coming in contact with them. I would greatly appreciate if you have an email address.
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I can forward the email of the person I’ve been in contact with if you want.
I'd appreciate the email address too. :)
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Is the specified seat insertion really enough for a dropper? Seems kinda short to me.
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Looking forward to seeing it built
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I wonder how it stacks up against a P-9?
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Just got an update from the production line as they just reopened from a week of public holiday.
They just opened the mold for the L size frame but just starting on the M size frames. Estimates for that is late December. Sigh.
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Looking forward to see the first bikes on this frame. THe frame seems to be for sale here
http://jmcarbonframe.nl/?portfolio=4315
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This is the best looking chiner frame imo, really modern lines.
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anyone save the geometry chart/ingo? the links to the from are down right now and I am super curious.
I will be buying or building a park bike for the wife.. leaning towards building because she is only 115 pounds and low/mid level slack 160-170mm travel compete bikes are all pretty over built for her and what she likes to ride. also looking at the ICAN p9 with offset chock mounts to slacken it up a bit more
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(https://i.imgur.com/8AE49Wt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YlKAX7E.png)
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wow it looks like the perfect enduro bike ;D
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Just got this email from "Gavin" at LightCarbon
Hi Ray,
Thanks for your reply.
As I check your website, it seems that you are not doing bike business.
LCFS947 is our 2021 new model full suspension enduro frame. This model is
designed to sell to OE clients only.
If you just want one frame for personal use, I'm afraid we can not supply.
Hope you can kindly understand.
You can check our website, to see if there are some other models be your
interest. Thanks.
Best regards,
Gavin Woo | Sales Manager
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Well that's disappointing
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Wonder if they'd do a group buy?
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Thats a shame, looked like a nice enduro frame
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I have bought a 4 direct from China bikes (gravel bikes and one rigid 29er)... gets confusing several "brands" are often the same company and the companies are not actually the manufacturer... I dont know how it all works out but so far I have seen the same frames from several "brands" so hopefully this one ends up being the same deal.
I want one of these in the largest size for myself and something for the wife in small FM-M931/FS831 (same frame very similar to the SC Hightower) or just another one of these.
These catalog frames have really come a long long way vs last year!! last time I looked I found some 150mm travel bikes but all short reach, crazy low stack and steep HTA.... long legged modern XC bikes or very old school like my 2006 Cannondale Gemini but in 29er
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I was able to order an LCFS947 in early September when it was still listed on both the LightCarbon and YishunBike sites. They quoted me two months lead time then but that's been extended to three months now. Once I receive it I can share pictures but it looks like if you haven't ordered one already they're not selling any more pre-orders.
I'm curious if any others in this thread who ordered early this fall have received a frame yet or have all orders been delayed til sometime in December like mine?
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Looking forward to see the first bikes on this frame. THe frame seems to be for sale here
http://jmcarbonframe.nl/?portfolio=4315
They've taken it down too. Assume they couldn't make minimum order numbers.
Interestingly, they list a new 2021 LightCarbon gravel frame without any details.
I'll be curious to see what that's like, if it appears.
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:-X the frame got bought over by a brand(contracted? Something like that). They're being asked to remove it from being offered.
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I was able to order an LCFS947 in early September when it was still listed on both the LightCarbon and YishunBike sites. They quoted me two months lead time then but that's been extended to three months now. Once I receive it I can share pictures but it looks like if you haven't ordered one already they're not selling any more pre-orders.
I'm curious if any others in this thread who ordered early this fall have received a frame yet or have all orders been delayed til sometime in December like mine?
Yep same with mine. End of December to be precise. I got an image of a complete build, it looks pretty sweet. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to repost it though.
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"Yep same with mine. End of December to be precise. I got an image of a complete build, it looks pretty sweet. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to repost it though."
We won't tell anyone if you post an image of the finished bike.
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"Yep same with mine. End of December to be precise. I got an image of a complete build, it looks pretty sweet. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to repost it though."
We won't tell anyone if you post an image of the finished bike.
Yep, and if you upload using the sites attachments unregistered users cant see the photo.
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A few pictures of the frame.
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Minimum order requirement of 10. Price around $680 each with another $125 for shipping. This includes Frame, seat clamp, headset, rear thru axle, and a spare hanger. I messaged Sitar_Ned to see if it was ok to do a group buy.
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Material: High modulus Toray T700 carbon fiber
Size: M, L, XL
Tapered headtube ID φ44/56mm(use the Press-fit 44/56mm headset bearings)
Weight: 2600g/Large
Seatpost Diameter: 31.6mm (dropper seat post insert length M-135mm/L-170mm/XL-200mm)
Bottom bracket: BSA-73mm BC1.37*24T (Compatible with ISCG-05 chain guide）
Front travel: 150-160mm
Rear travel: 150-160mm
Rear shock size: 185*55mm(trunnion mount)
Shock eye-eye: 185-55mm-30x∅8mm SHOCK TRAVEL:55MM rear travel 159mm
Shock eye-eye: 185-52.5mm-30x∅8mm SHOCK TRAVEL:52.5MM rear travel 153mm
Shock eye-eye: 185-50mm-30x∅8mm SHOCK TRAVEL:50MM rear travel 147mm
Shock eye-eye: 185-47.5mm-30x∅8mm SHOCK TRAVEL:47.5MM rear travel 140.8mm
Max Tire Clearance: 650b*3.0'' or 29er 2.6''
Brake Type: Post Mount Disc brake 180mm rotor.
Dropout Thru Axle: 12*148mm boost
Max Chainring: 32T
Test Standard ISO4210
Warranty: 2 years
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Shhhhhhhhh...
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Latest update I got is delivery at the end of January :P due to the frame not passing qa.
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Not sure which I like better, this or the Firebird clone.
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Minimum order requirement of 10. Price around $680 each with another $125 for shipping. This includes Frame, seat clamp, headset, rear thru axle, and a spare hanger. I messaged Sitar_Ned to see if it was ok to do a group buy.
I might be interested in a group buy of this frame if the AM831 doesn't happen anytime soon & this one don't drag out to long. Biggest problem might be finding more people tho.
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I would be interested in size L.
Tell us when you know if group buy is possible, and the average date of production :)
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Waiting reply from Lightcarbon on the status of the build and testing
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Woohooo, bike finally ready! Shipping on the 3rd week this month.
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Frame is listed on LoghtCarbon site again.
Whey are not selling it to single customers, right?
https://www.lightcarbon.com/all-new-enduro-carbon-frame-lcfs947_p172.html
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not sure, perhaps it got cancelled.
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I checked geometry one again and it looks like an issue with frame design. For frame size L seat post insert length is only 170. So with KS LEV with 175 travel seat tube with installed dropper post will be approx. 530. It is toooo much.
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I checked geometry one again and it looks like an issue with frame design. For frame size L seat post insert length is only 170. So with KS LEV with 175 travel seat tube with installed dropper post will be approx. 530. It is toooo much.
Insertion is pretty small, i'ts because they put the suspension pivot in the seat tube. Out of all the droppers I've found the Oneup V2 has the shortest lenght, 150@420mm, 180@480 and you can shim the travel down 10 or 20mm.
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Agreed with the setapost insertion, though looking at the diagram, I don't think you can lower the saddle all the way down without scrubbing the saddle at full compression. The setup will suit me just fine though cos I don't like to lower it all the way.
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I am 1m78, 83cm inseam, on a L size, I calculated that I can use a OneUp v2 150mm dropper post, shimed to 140mm. Even less than on the FM936.
That is disappointing indeed for an enduro bike, 180 would have been great for downhill.
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Woohooo, bike finally ready! Shipping on the 3rd week this month.
Congrats! Hope you update us on the build!. ;D
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Just received my frame.
Will slowly post the build.
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I hope to receive my frame this week. I am also waiting for my rear shock, a Marzocchi Bomber CR Trunnion. Now when I think about it im a bit nervous, will the spring-shock fit into the frame :-o
Images coming up........
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Hi,
[new to this forum, BTW]
I also ordered one a few days ago, after discovering its existence from this post.
This will be a nice step up over my FM-XC181, that I'm running with far too much travel in the fork!
lightcarbon quoted me 30 days before shipping, but surprisingly they shipped it today, in less than a week!
Question for CasualRider: does it include the screws to connect the (top of) the trunnion shock?
I think these are frame-specific, su I'm assuming so..
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Today my LCFS947 frame arrived. I looks amazing. :D :D :D
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Today my LCFS947 frame arrived. I looks amazing. :D :D :D
Looks great. Is that 4 bikes you've built up in the last year?
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Yes this will be my 4:th (and last....???) bike to build. Its so much fun and the bikes are great. But I don't think they are easy to sell so they are only great value and fun for myself.
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The new LCFS947 is HUGE!!!!! And with 51mm offset on the Lyrik form its even longer. I have never ridden something like this, its going to be very interesting and exciting.
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What size did you order? Does the geometry look close to stated?
Any pics of tire clearance? Hoping to run a full size 29x2.6.
Initial impressions? Any problems with the build or anything off spec?
Would love to order one but looks like they are out until end of April.
I was quoted $720 plus $253 (ouch) to ship to US.
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The new LCFS947 is HUGE!!!!! And with 51mm offset on the Lyrik form its even longer. I have never ridden something like this, its going to be very interesting and exciting.
Looks like a beast :), what chainstay protector is that?
To you guys who have received your frames, is the dropper insertion correct to the specs or is there a little more wiggle room then specced?
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The tire clearance is ok. Here is a image with 2.6" Continental Trail King on 30 mm rim.
The chainstay protector is from Nukeproof, that I modified to fit.
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Just placed my order with Wendy today. Same price as listed earlier, 720usd, and another 100usd for shipping. I also grabbed one of their AM05 handlbars and a spare derailleur hanger.
I was also a bit concerned about the dropper insertion length but after doing some measurements it should be fine for me using a OneUpv2.
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Have any of you who've built your frames run into an issue with these pivot bolts? The nut end of them is only held in place by the carbon at the corner of the rear triangle and it looks like it'll crack when I go to loosen them. All the other pivot bolts I've removed so far have been really tight also with tons of blue loctite on them.
If I wasn't planning to paint the frame I would just leave them as they're clearly pretty bomber and don't seem like they'd ever come loose.
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Looks dangerous, you could try a little heat on the bolt to soften up the lock tight.
Doesn't look great for future bearing maintenance.
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Have any of you who've built your frames run into an issue with these pivot bolts? The nut end of them is only held in place by the carbon at the corner of the rear triangle and it looks like it'll crack when I go to loosen them. All the other pivot bolts I've removed so far have been really tight also with tons of blue loctite on them.
If I wasn't planning to paint the frame I would just leave them as they're clearly pretty bomber and don't seem like they'd ever come loose.
I'm curious what your plan is for frame prep.
I have one of these on order also, and I also want to paint mine. I'm looking at the Spray.bike paints. I plan on using the carbon primer - but I'm wondering if the factory surface needs much prep.
I am assuming 800 grit wet sand and then ready to go.
Maybe to release these bolts you can either dremel a slot and use a flat head or drill some holes and use a spanner, something to give you purchase on that captive nut other than the carbon?
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I stripped and repainted a Carbon genius. I used Spraymax 2K epoxy primer. I don't think I would use anything but this.
Color coats by Montana Gold, 2K clear again from Spraymax.
The 2k prime and clear products are the important part. The color coat could be whatever you wish.
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Update,
finally got 90% of the parts - a mixture of some parts I had left-over, some 2nd-hand stuff and bit and pieces of some new stuff.
I decided to do a vinyl wrap, quoted $200 for it.
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Update,
finally got 90% of the parts - a mixture of some parts I had left-over, some 2nd-hand stuff and bit and pieces of some new stuff.
I decided to do a vinyl wrap, quoted $200 for it.
Looks great! I'm going with a similar approach. Which headset did you go with? Assuming it's an ZS type? Last piece I have to order since I didn't notice the frame doesn't come with one like the LCFS91.
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yep the zs type coz the steerer for the lyrik has been cut too short so thats the only one i can get fix it with.
edit.. bought the cane creek hellbender.
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I'm curious what your plan is for frame prep.
I have one of these on order also, and I also want to paint mine. I'm looking at the Spray.bike paints. I plan on using the carbon primer - but I'm wondering if the factory surface needs much prep.
I am assuming 800 grit wet sand and then ready to go.
Maybe to release these bolts you can either dremel a slot and use a flat head or drill some holes and use a spanner, something to give you purchase on that captive nut other than the carbon?
I've ordered colors from spray.bike for my frame and am planning to just wet sand then paint like you mentioned.
Update on the captive nuts: the carbon cracks immediately on loosening the pivot bolts, light carbon has told me they'll send me replacement seat stays. If they're the same design I'll probably end up machining new nuts with 6mm heads so I don't rely on the carbon anytime I want to disassemble the rear triangle.
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The bike is almost finished. A chain and some adjustments left before I can test-ride it. I am happy that I choose a 120 mm dropper for the size L frame. Im 184 cm tall and it would not have worked with a higher dropperpost.
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All things now put together. I have a 120 mm dropper-post, I will most likely replace it with a 150 mm, there is space for it. The Marzocchi Bomber CR is a bit difficult to get in place and to adjust the spring compared to a air damper, the coil works against me. But when all adjustments are done its no problem, then the Marzocchi fight is over. I haven't taken the bike into the woods yet, but my first impression is that it fells a lot like my LCFS958.
Hopefully all adjustments are done before next weekend so that the first trail test can take place.
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Just received mine two days ago. Quality looks good. The only drawback is that my Fox Factory DHX2 shock does not fit. The diameter is too large. Does anyone have experience with the installation of a Fox X2 in the frame?
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I received mine 5 days ago, built it with a mix of new and reused components (carbon wheels from lightcarbon, fox36, fox dps, eagle gx groupset).
I had my first ride yesterday. It feels stable and maneuverable. I like the way it rides, but my reference point is very limited (moving up from an fm-xc181).
Some observations on the build, that could help others:
- the lower pin for the rear shock was stuck in place. I had to push it out with another pin and mallet.
- the top opening of the head tube had some (epoxy?) drip that I had to sand away before pressing in the press-fit cups. BTW, I'm glad that I order the whole press-fit headset from lightcarbon, this way I knew that I had the right parts, and it was cheaper that getting them locally.
- I found it very hard to install the plastic cover of the opening for the rear break line in the rear triangle. It took a lot of "convincing".
- my 150mm OneUp V2.1 post fits just barely for me, given the insertion length (frame size M, i'm 171 cm)
I'll post some pictures soon.
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Ooo good to know Lightcarbon sells the headset as well. Wonder if I should ask Wendy to add one to my order. I just ordered this ztto one off ali: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32898172179.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.45914c4dd1VFbn
Locally headsets are insane for me, cheapest ones are $150.
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Wendy sold me a similar one (no zitto brand) for $10, and clearly no additional shipping fees.
I also added a spare derailleur hanger to my order. It turned out that they included 2 anyways, so I have 3 now.
It will likely turn out useful, as it seems the type of hangers that snap very easily.
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Today I had my first ride on the LCFS947 and its really a great bike. It climbs extremely well and is super stable on descends. Its a long bike so it feels a little slower throwing around rocks and tight trails. I have a Marzocchi Bomber CR on it and it works great. But its very, very tight so I cant adjust the spring by hand, I need a little tool.
Tomorrow Im taking my LCFS958 for a ride to get a fell of the differences and to start finding out if I prefer one before the other.
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Looking forward to hearing your comparison.
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Looks great! Kind of glad I couldn't find a coil shock for a decent price and ended up with a RockShox Super Deluxe. Seems like the clearance for coils is very tight.
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To get ok clearance with the Marzocchi Bomber CR i did a small modification on the coil and damper. I grinded of about 3 mm on the backside and now its all clear
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.....ruined, new bike time ;D
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Posting pictures of my build.
Thanks to the carbon wheels, GX groupset etc, it turned out quite light, 13.3kg.
I will eventually pain it.
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Posting pictures of my build.
Thanks to the carbon wheels, GX groupset etc, it turned out quite light, 13.3kg.
I will eventually pain it.
Bike looks great. Keep us posted how it holds up in Tahoe.
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My friend also built a LCFS947 and he loves it. HE also has a TREK Fuel EX 9,7 and in most ways the LCFS947 is better. Its a better climber and its better downhill, only on tight technical trails the TREK is a little quicker. (its shorter)
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Like checker_de asked earlier, would a float x2 fit? Thanks
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Thanks for all the awesome progress reports. I've been researching this frame for about a week which led me here. Are those individuals with complete builds starting to ride them heavily? How's the frame holding up?
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StefanB - It might be worth mentioning to your friend to move the front brake line inside the fork leg so they don't catch the line on a passing branch. The bike looks awesome.
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I've put 150 / 200 miles on this bike.
Some technical stuff, some fast bumpy trails, rock gardens, a couple of minor crashes.
No big jumps/drops, I can't do that :)
Please consider that I'm quite light: 65kg / 144lb
All is fine so far.
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Thanks for the response Truckee. I'm quite heavy - 215lbs - which is why I'm so curious..!
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Like checker_de asked earlier, would a float x2 fit? Thanks
I haven't recieved my frame yet, but from looking at the drawings - I would say that no, a Float X2 won't fit. I'm at least sure enough that I would be willing to tell you it's a bad idea to purchase one for the frame. Doing a bit more digging just now - I can't find a picture of a trunnion mount Float X2. This frame requires a trunnion mount shock - so I think that's a double whammy. I'm pretty sure that the external reservoir would interfere, and it doesn't come in the right mount configuration.
Even if mounted with the remote reservoir out of the little frame pocket - it looks like the shock body would either interfere or be very tight (see stephanB's "modified" bomber shock. . .)
In other news - Wendy tells me that they may be finishing up my frame in 15-20 days, so hopefully I'll get a frame for myself soon. I have a DPX2 already for it.
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I actually think a Float X2 may after seeing how Stefan grinded his coil shock.
The trunnion mount of a float X2 is near the stanchion which is where grinding is needed for a coil shock. The stanchion is obviously smaller in diameter vs the coil so that part should be OK.
Problem is that the X2 air can measures up to 50mm diameter which is a bit bigger than say a fox SLS coil spring.
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Hi everyone! I am starting a build using this frame and i have a question concerning the linkage bolts that crack the frame when you try to loosen them. Someone in this thread mentioned that he couldn't take them off without damaging the carbon, anyone else got that problem? Also,
I would love to hear about how the bike behaves in different circumstances and see more pictures of your builds!
Cheers,
Simon
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Hi everyone! I am starting a build using this frame and i have a question concerning the linkage bolts that crack the frame when you try to loosen them. Someone in this thread mentioned that he couldn't take them off without damaging the carbon, anyone else got that problem? Also,
I would love to hear about how the bike behaves in different circumstances and see more pictures of your builds!
Cheers,
Simon
I asked about this issue before ordering and if they had fixed this problem and John responded "Yes, we have improve this issue after get feedback from customer..."
No details on how or what they did. If anyone receives one shortly, I'm curious myself on what was done. Sounds like I won't see mine for another month or so.
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Thanks for the reply, i'm happy to hear that, it was pretty much the only worry i had with this frame. I also wont get my frame before another month but i will post an update once i do.
Simon
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Hey all I'm the one who had that issue with the linkage bolts, LightCarbon is sending me replacement seat stays under warranty with their fix. Wendy mentioned something about making the nuts captive so they can't move in the housing on the seat stays. Can't comment on how it'll work yet as I haven't received the replacements so far.
I did end up finishing the build anyway just to see what it looks like while I wait for those replacements. I went with spray.bike for the paint and did it myself.
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The bike looks amazing man!!
I got some questions for you!
First what size did you go for? I am 6' and i went for a large...
What length dropper are you running?
How does is ride (Are you on a 29 or 27.5 setup?) I am wondering if its long wheelbase and slack HA makes it feel like a tractor when riding less steep terrain?
Finally, how much steerer tube do you need on the fork? I know the HT is 100mm on the large but how many spacers do you run?
Cheers,
Simon
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I did say it'd be a sloow build.
Just had it wrapped.
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i like the colour,
do you have the details or name of it?
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Looks like Hexis Lapis Blue, which is a sick color. Looks awesome!
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.shopify.com%2Fs%2Ffiles%2F1%2F0879%2F4898%2Fproducts%2FHexis-Gloss-Lapis-Blue-Variochrome-by-RadWrapz_1024x1024.jpg%3Fv%3D1526928640&f=1&nofb=1)
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How much did it cost to have it wrapped?
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It's 3m satin flip carribean shimmer. Cost about 160.
Edit: Working out with my friend to create the headset badge. I was thinking the green hornet logo in chrome
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Looks great!
I just got my frame in recently as well
https://i.imgur.com/f0Elyw3.jpeg
Although I think I might have been sent an incorrect bolt for mounting the rear shock. The one on the left seats inside the bearing properly and covers it completely. While the one on the right doesn't go in as far and leaves a gap.
https://i.imgur.com/z91MKYt.png
EDIT: turns out there was just washer really jammed on it. Managed to pry it off and everything is good now.
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To get ok clearance with the Marzocchi Bomber CR i did a small modification on the coil and damper. I grinded of about 3 mm on the backside and now its all clear
Thanks for posting all your build updates - just had a question about the coil you're running. Did you have to increase the spring rate significantly from when you used the Marzocchi on a prior bike? The leverage curve of the 947 looks very steep with a very high starting ratio - like a Santa Cruz V10 or Nomad - just curious as I'd like to try a coil myself on a build and the info might help other folks as well. I'm looking to try an EXT Storia with a short 105mm coil, or a coil from SAR that's around the same length 105-110mm Thanks again!
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The bike looks amazing man!!
I got some questions for you!
First what size did you go for? I am 6' and i went for a large...
What length dropper are you running?
How does is ride (Are you on a 29 or 27.5 setup?) I am wondering if its long wheelbase and slack HA makes it feel like a tractor when riding less steep terrain?
Finally, how much steerer tube do you need on the fork? I know the HT is 100mm on the large but how many spacers do you run?
Cheers,
Simon
First of all thanks!
And for your Qs:
I'm 6'2" and went for a large, the frame size has felt great so far.
Dropper is a 150mm from PNW, you could possibly get away with a 170mm from OneUp as they have the smallest insertion depth IIRC but I didn't want to chance it.
I've got 29 wheels on it and love how it rides, I know some folks like the snappy handling of smaller wheels and shorter front ends but that's not for me. The geo definitely shines when it gets steep and especially when it's chunky, I've got a 170mm Ribbon Air in the front so it feels like it can plow through anything. As for feeling like a tractor, I don't find it sluggish on flowy stuff or pedaling-heavy sections. However, it does have a ton of trail with the long front end and you absolutely notice it when turning, especially at low speeds. I notice it most when slowing to navigate trees that would take out my bars if I'm not careful. That is the tradeoff of the slack HA and I feel it's worth it but it's something to keep in mind.
For the steerer mine is real short, I don't know what its cut to exactly but I run 25mm of spacers and a 34mm tall stem.
Hope all that helps and good luck with your build!
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All things now put together. I have a 120 mm dropper-post, I will most likely replace it with a 150 mm, there is space for it. The Marzocchi Bomber CR is a bit difficult to get in place and to adjust the spring compared to a air damper, the coil works against me. But when all adjustments are done its no problem, then the Marzocchi fight is over. I haven't taken the bike into the woods yet, but my first impression is that it fells a lot like my LCFS958.
Hopefully all adjustments are done before next weekend so that the first trail test can take place.
Hey Stefan, have you managed to put a 150mm dropper in there?
I'm 182mm and that insertion length from the geo chart looks suspicious. Maybe you can measure the actual max insertions?
Thanks.
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I haven't tried yes, Ive settled with a 120 mm dropper. I have got used to it. If you want a 150 mm dropper you have to find the right one, the shortest one...
Good luck
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Build started - she's on the stand, with shock and bearings installed.
Forgot how to do a headset properly, learned that shock bushings are a PITA, and figured out how to do internal routing and Cushcore+tubeless for the first time. Lots of hard learning, but I'm getting really excited for the final product. X-Fusion 150 mm dropper - a bit large for the space, but we'll see how well it rides.
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New here, just wondering anyone tried doing a full internal cable routing on this frame or any other with FSA's ICR headset or similar.
(https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/700x700/602f0fa2c1f0d1ba5e241f914e856ff9/1/0/10100020000010.jpg)
HS NO.13/57E ICR 1.5"
https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/headsets/road-mtb-urban-commuting/hs-no-13-57e-icr-1-5 (https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/headsets/road-mtb-urban-commuting/hs-no-13-57e-icr-1-5)
with their full ICR stem and whatever. Is it a good idea?
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New here, just wondering anyone tried doing a full internal cable routing on this frame or any other with FSA's ICR headset or similar.
HS NO.13/57E ICR 1.5"
with their full ICR stem and whatever. Is it a good idea?
You could, no reason you couldn't. My Fox 36 has plenty of room for that. I was going to run a OneUp EDC stem just so I wouldn't have to set a star nut, but no one would ship me a real one. So I have a regular OneUp, and a starnut. . .
But if you want fully internal, go that way. It seems very seperate from the rest of the frame design, more dependent on Fork choice. The frame is intended for a 160 mm, tapered fork. So, like I said, plenty of room in mine, just not something I even thought about.
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Quick update on the seat stay nut issue: I've just received a replacement from LightCarbon and they've updated the design to fix the issue. The nuts are now completely captive and built into the seat stay during the layup process. Looks like a great fix!
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How do you guys think this frame would ride with 150mm fork up front and 150mm in the back? Do you think it would be a better idea to include a 10mm crown spacer, or should it ride nicely?
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So looks like our cheap brand here in Quebec,Canada decided to switch from the P9 to this frame for 2022
https://rythmbikes.com/produit/rythm-pace-2022-pre-order/?fbclid=IwAR2wJ4KbgSEBT53NeS5R8gPTBmuIDLliZBN6c889ZLZ6o8gr6FX4dyxdq0Y_aem_AZyq-lBfd-XMftBTN5ew0PIL_XwITkS6PGuysyHC31cupJ9dVZm7ZuZ5VPgrl1G8-lJfJs9h_Yecz39f3yC80Rw_r03gkc80SIW0YoXi8WZ_UukWisR-M8YvmHn8pHg1Gxg
Honestly I feel sorry for the guy that will pay 2300$ cad for frame only smh
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So looks like our cheap brand here in Quebec,Canada decided to switch from the P9 to this frame for 2022
https://rythmbikes.com/produit/rythm-pace-2022-pre-order/?fbclid=IwAR2wJ4KbgSEBT53NeS5R8gPTBmuIDLliZBN6c889ZLZ6o8gr6FX4dyxdq0Y_aem_AZyq-lBfd-XMftBTN5ew0PIL_XwITkS6PGuysyHC31cupJ9dVZm7ZuZ5VPgrl1G8-lJfJs9h_Yecz39f3yC80Rw_r03gkc80SIW0YoXi8WZ_UukWisR-M8YvmHn8pHg1Gxg
Honestly I feel sorry for the guy that will pay 2300$ cad for frame only smh
But look at all those color options.
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But look at all those color options.
They also probably did a lot of intensive in house test … oh wait they didn’t even bother redoing the geo chart, it’s just a plain copy from lightcarbon sight ::)
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Hey everyone!
First of all, huge thanks to everyone on this thread, the info i got here was super useful and valuable and made my life way easier.
My build is finally complete. Frame is a large, 160mm front and rear travel, 160mm dropper. Total weight is 32lbs.
The bike climbs exceptionally well. Super responsive and precise over technical uphill and really easy to pedal as well.
Going downhill with this machine is pure joy. It feels like my giant reign in terms of plowing through stuff, but is almost and agile and playful as my brothers trail bike that has 130/140mm travel.
Can't seem to post this if i include images, so i will see if there is another to include pictures.
If you have any questions let me know, maybe i can help!:)
Cheers!
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I haven't taken many pictures yet but I have been riding and enjoying mine as well. At least until today!
Looks like the rear bushing slipped out and got smushed by the shock eyelet. I'm wondering if I have the wrong bushing set? 10*30mm rock shox kit, and I have a super deluxe. The black bushing doesn't extend all the way to the frame, which I thought was kinda weird but it worked pretty well until today. I guess looking back at the lightcarbon site they do specify 30*10mm. Is anyone else running a rock shox rear?
(https://i.imgur.com/ch7YunP.png)
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...Honestly I feel sorry for the guy that will pay 2300$ cad for frame only smh
And how about the one who will drop $14k? :o
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10*30 and 30*10mm is just a typo i believe, there is no such thing as a 10*30mm mounting hardware kit. I am running a fox dpx2 with a 10*30mm bushing kit and i have noticed a very small amount of play in the shock mount. I have also noticed that the rubber gasket that are supposed to be in contact with the frame don't touch completely and instead the metal bolt mount touches the frame.
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Here is an image.
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I cant post more than one image per post lol
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Nice thanks, you're looks great! Hmm so I guess the hardware is correct but it is isn't a perfect design. I filed down the little smushed part and it seems to be working normally.
Here's a picture of it:
(https://i.imgur.com/lPiZhu2.png)
Gonna try to find some plastic washers or something to stick between so the bushing doesn't slide out again. Although I also don't want it to be rubbing against the frame all the time.
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When i lift the rear end of the bike up, i can feel there is a small amount of play in the rear linkage and a very small clunk noise can be heard. It is very small, but still there. I figured out like i said previously that the mounting bolt for the rear shock is a bit too small in diameter for the shock bushing, even though i am 100% i got the right size bushing kit. Does anyone else have that? Maybe it is a problem with my frame/hardware that came with it?
Cheers!
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I have that problem - it does seem to become loose over time/miles. I have just been re-torqueing it. So far, I have not seen a problem doing that. They seem to be made of brass, which is nice I think. Probably less corrosion risk than aluminum. However, they are a bit soft, and I've definitely found shaving from the threading operation/machining inside the shaft. So, not the best quality control. Worth removing, cleaning, reapplying good loctite to, and reassembling to torque. I've also found the solidified blue loctite on all the fasteners is pretty terrible. So, re-torqueing everything will be standard practice for me going forward.
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It doesn't seem to get loose for me, the bolt diameter is simply too small (aka not 10mm like it should) so the shock mounting washers as a bit of play vertically.
Another thing, i would recommend for everyone to take the time to remove all bolts from the linkage to clean and regrease the bearings. I have done it on my bike and noticed loads of carbon shavings in the linkage bolts and bearings. Over time these shavings seem to breakdown and grind the bearings and links so probably a good idea to look into it sooner than later.
And yes, i also notice that the solid Loctite was garbage.
Cheers.
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I should show off my build. Size lg, with LightCarbon AD940 rims on DTswiss 350's.
I love how this bike rides. It climbs amazingly, accelerates great even uphill. It handles technical climbing with aplomb. It descends like magic. Handles berms exceedingly well.
The only things I don't love about it are:
1. Dropper post insert length is very short. It's been discussed, but without experiencing it I didn't have a feel for the impact. I really need the shortest 120mm dropper available for my riding. I think I have about 180 mm from top of the seattube collar to the bottom of the clamp in pedaling position, for reference. That means my total length would have to be ~350mm. The OneUp is 360 total, so that's about ideal. I grabbed an XFusion 150 - and this was a mistake. Nice post, but way too long.
2. Factory loctite is not great.
3. Factory bolt QC could be better. I'm not let down at this price point, but it might be worth measuring and having new ones made. I did find metal shavings in the female threads of the shock mounting bolt. I also hit those with my calipers, which are fairly trustworthy. The seemed about right. I don't know what the fit/tolerance should be, but I don't think it's undersized. I got my bearing kit from OffsetBearings.com - out of the UK. It was beautifully machined brass and aluminum, with a DU bush. I don't think I wrote down the diameters, or I would look up the fit range. I could ask them, they'd know. But, I didn't have any problems too much clearance. As I said, I had to use a makeshift press for install. The thru-bolt itself took some convincing, but did not need a press. It is the bolt that most frequently loosens. I should measure it's length to keep track of elongation too. I'll take measurements when I re-do all the bolts at SimonPeaime's suggestion.
4. Cable housing rattle. I think there are some ways to fix this, but I haven't really tried. It's not a major problem.
5. I hamfisted the headset install. Forgot to do one cup at a time. I think it's fine, installed well enough. But there's a bit of a gap on the rear of the top cup. I'm not sure at this point if that's my doing, or just where the frame doesn't quite meet the headset. Not a concern, but makes the list.
6. Cable housing exit grommets are iffy.
Otherwise the frame has been a dream. I ride it pretty hard. I've hit a number of drops, jumps, and technical chunky lines. Aside from the already mentioned bolt loosening, no worries or creaks. I went OTB on a missed rock drop a few weeks ago, bent a rotor, and cracked a seatstay.
Don't have pics at the moment - but I'm impressed at how well it stood up. I'll have a dissection and deep dive into it as I repair it.
Need to get a replacement. But, I've been riding it equally hard with crack, just covered by helicopter tape. It hasn't complained or killed me yet, and does not seem to have grown. So, beyond the obvious "do as I say not as I do" warning to not ride cracked carbon fiber like an idiot (i.e. me), it's impressive.
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Ha did the attachments wrong. More pics:
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(https://i.imgur.com/n4We0vS.png)
Added some nylon washers to hopefully prevent the mounting hardware getting messed up again. Ordered a set on Amazon, ended up using M12s, and had to file down the inner diameter to get them to fit.
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SimonPeaime: the chainstay protector that you are using seems to fit the frame perfectly.
Are you happy with it and do you mind sharing model/brand and where you got it?
BTW, my frame now has about 1k miles on it with not issue. I'm a happy camper!
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New to the forum and I'm wondering how some of you guys decided on a frame size? I typically ride a large but I'm on the fence about ordering an XL this go around. I'm 6'2.
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SimonPeaime: the chainstay protector that you are using seems to fit the frame perfectly.
Are you happy with it and do you mind sharing model/brand and where you got it?
BTW, my frame now has about 1k miles on it with not issue. I'm a happy camper!
Looks like this one, hoping he will confirm soon
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002548747061.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.360c395evH8puB&algo_pvid=4c412cdb-5a85-47e3-8e4d-ae50bdab821f&algo_exp_id=4c412cdb-5a85-47e3-8e4d-ae50bdab821f-5
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New to the forum and I'm wondering how some of you guys decided on a frame size? I typically ride a large but I'm on the fence about ordering an XL this go around. I'm 6'2.
I'm 6'4" and wouldn't mind if the XL was slightly bigger... think you'd be good. I'd try and do the calculation on the seat tube/ crank length/ desired dropper length on this bike. If that part works for you I'd think you'd like the XL.
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Hi,
The chainstay protector actually came with the frame. It is the exact same model as the one from aliexpress. Unfortunately, it is too short and the chain still nicks the paint close to the chainring and the cassette. Moreover, it has started to peel and loose some pieces. I have ordered a chainstay protector for the nukeproof mega and i plan on modifying it a bit to make it fit. Someone else in this thread did that and it seemed to have worked well. I used a mega downtube protector on the frame and it fits perfectly and its holding up great, i am hoping i can achieve similar results with the chainstay.
Hope this helps!
BTW, i was wondering if other people using this frame and problems with pedal strikes? The BB is quite low and i find myself hitting my pedals quite often when climbing. Maybe i just suck lol
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Hi,
The chainstay protector actually came with the frame. It is the exact same model as the one from aliexpress. Unfortunately, it is too short and the chain still nicks the paint close to the chainring and the cassette. Moreover, it has started to peel and loose some pieces. I have ordered a chainstay protector for the nukeproof mega and i plan on modifying it a bit to make it fit. Someone else in this thread did that and it seemed to have worked well. I used a mega downtube protector on the frame and it fits perfectly and its holding up great, i am hoping i can achieve similar results with the chainstay.
Hope this helps!
BTW, i was wondering if other people using this frame and problems with pedal strikes? The BB is quite low and i find myself hitting my pedals quite often when climbing. Maybe i just suck lol
I've also had a bit more pedal strikes, but I don't think the bike is to blame. It's a very different geometry than my previous ride, and I don't think the BB is that low - the chainring clears things easily. I think it's just riding style and timing. I haven't had a problem since I've "Adjusted" to the way the bike is.
I helicoper-taped the chainstay before putting the included rubber bit on. The whole assembly looks pretty good, I'm loving the heli tape.
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No major issues with pedal strikes either but I'm running 29 x 2.6 rear, 3.0 front and a Mezzer at 170mm. I'm also running an Absolute Black chain guide/ bashguard combo. Haven't actually measured bb height but seems to do fine in chunky, rocky tech... only noticed hitting the bashguard a few times so far.
I'm running a Mara Pro shock (had to use the smaller air can to clear frame) and it seems to stay up in the travel nicely.
If you're already running a tall set up, it might just be getting used to a longer front center?
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Just checked out your pics, looks like you're running 27.5 x 2.4. I went through this on my last bike, finally caved and went 29 and cured all the problems I had with pedal strikes in tech sections and really didn't give up much of the fun factor. If you're willing to make the trade off for the bigger wheels, I can attest that it rides great and still carves like mad with the 29ers.
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I'm 6'4" and wouldn't mind if the XL was slightly bigger... think you'd be good. I'd try and do the calculation on the seat tube/ crank length/ desired dropper length on this bike. If that part works for you I'd think you'd like the XL.
I ended up ordering the large, I went back through this thread and noticed a few guys comments about being similar hight and going with a large. I also ordered an extra set of bearings/hardware and a headset.
I haven't built a bike in years and am very excited to start gathering parts.
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Re: chainstay protector
thank you for your comments SimonPeaime and idaho_h2o!
My frame came without protector, so I got this: https://www.forbiddenbike.com/products/chainstay-protector (https://www.forbiddenbike.com/products/chainstay-protector), without researching it much.
It turned out to be twice as long as needed. After cutting most of the front part, it fit pretty well and it has been doing the job for a while.
Now the front part, close to the chainring, is peeling off..
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Hi,
So lot of good information here ! i have finaly ordered an L frame and a set of 29 Wheels.
Now i must find all the other pieces.
Question about the fork and geometry : it is written on the data front fork must be 160-170mm. What is it best to buy ?, a 160mm or a 170mm ? it is linked with the choice with rear suspension ?
Thanks
PS : excuse me for poor english !
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Hi,
So lot of good information here ! i have finaly ordered an L frame and a set of 29 Wheels.
Now i must find all the other pieces.
Question about the fork and geometry : it is written on the data front fork must be 160-170mm. What is it best to buy ?, a 160mm or a 170mm ? it is linked with the choice with rear suspension ?
Thanks
PS : excuse me for poor english !
Either would be fine. I'm pretty happy with a Mezzer up front at 170 for a bike that does everything. I wish it was a little quicker to adjust. I think I'd like it at 160 for longer backcountry rides with steep singletrack climbs and 180 for ski area stuff but 170 seems a nice middle ground. No wrong answer really. Just depends on your riding style and choice of set up. The nice thing about a fork that adjusts without additional parts or expense is you can try them all and see what works better for you.
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For those of you that own this bike I am very curious about your sizing and how you feel the bike fits.
I'm coming from a ~2012 all mountain type bike (150mm/160mm travel) but the geometry seems so different than this bike and for that matter all newer bikes.
Does anyone know of some bikes that are even close to similar to the LCFS947 in regards to geo that I could maybe take a demo on that would be a good frame of reference? Seems like a SC Hightower and Scott Ransom are somewhat close but I hear people say 5mm makes a notable difference in some of these measurements so I'm not sure how to correct for that. Granted everything is a large departure from what I'm riding now.
I feel like trying to compare the geometry I've measured off my bike is not really helping me understand what the bike is going to feel like as its so different, and I want to try to make the best choice I can as this will be a several thousand dollar investment and I'm not sure how well these will resell compared to a name brand if it ends up wrong and i need a different size.
So with that said, here are my measurements. I'm curious to know what yours are and how you find the bike fits and feels for you.
Height (6'4") - 193cm
weight (165lbs) - 75Kg
Wingspan (6'2") - 187cm
Inseam (34.5") - 88cm
Welcome anyone's thoughts or experience with bike sizing or any more resources for me to check out.
For the record, here are the measurements I took on my bike, although I did these with tape measure and an angle app on my phone so unlikely to be dead nutz accurate. Hopefully within 5-10mm
Reach = 457mm
Stack = 625mm
Eff. Top tube = 595mm
BB height = 370mm
Chain stay = 432mm
Head angle = 69deg
Seat angle = 74deg
Seat Tube = 460mm
wheel base = 1130mm
I also measured from BB to top of my seat as 810mm which makes the pedal to ass measurement 985mm when I only have a 880mm inseam? seemed kinda weird but I measured it a few times and its right or pretty close.
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I feel like trying to compare the geometry I've measured off my bike is not really helping me understand what the bike is going to feel like as its so different, and I want to try to make the best choice I can as this will be a several thousand dollar investment and I'm not sure how well these will resell compared to a name brand if it ends up wrong and i need a different size.
I would demo some XL bikes with a similar reach and stack to get a feel for a more modern geometry. Your measurements seem solidly XL to me and you can fix a few mm here and there with the touch points. Depending on how you feel with long, low, slack HT, and steep ST you may also be tempted to try a large. I have a 6'6" friend that rides a large Kona Process 153 and, to be honest, he looks ridiculous but he comes from BMX and likes to throw the bike around. All about feel.
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Yea I definitely think getting on a new geometry bike and a 29" set of wheels will be important. Now to find a cheap demo.
Anyone have a geometrygeeks membership? I put in some bikes I could think of that might be in my local shop, but if you pay for the site you can search by numbers to dial it in more. Seems like there might be a few which are in the ballpark, although each is different in some ways which again, I have no idea how much 10mm of stack, and 5mm of reach are going to change how it feels. gotta find the closest thing to take to the trail
https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/light-carbon-lcfs947-2021-xl,scott-ransom-910-2021-xl-hi,santa-cruz-hightower-2021-xl-hi,ibis-ripmo-2021-x-large,rocky-mountain-altitude-2021-xl-29,nukeproof-mega-290-alloy-2021-x-large,specialized-enduro-2020-s5/
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It feels a heck of a lot like a Specialized Enduro, or an Evil Insurgent. Probably more luck finding a Specialized at a store. The S4 or S3 size would be the ones to check out, but neither are exact reach matches. This bike feels like a "modern" bike. Coming from old-school narrow handlebars and NORBA geometry, it's very different. I had to sit on a few new bikes before I knew I needed and wanted to get into something like this.
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I appreciate the feedback. I think is well worth the couple hundred bucks to Demo and get a few rides in on something thats maybe in the ballpark.
I'll see if I can find a specialized Enduro at the LBS S4 seems closest. I think the Scott Ransom and Hightower in XL are pretty close to the XL 947. Good chance someone might have those as well.
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Finally completed the build. It took hella long time 8).
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Hi all
Thanks a lot for the great info and the pics!
I'm about to order a frame and I was wondering about the specified max chainring of 32t. I want to get an sram eagle groupset, but there seems to be stock issues. Would a 34t also fit or would it touch the frame? Could it be that this spec is because of the chain guide?
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Either would be fine. I'm pretty happy with a Mezzer up front at 170 for a bike that does everything. I wish it was a little quicker to adjust. I think I'd like it at 160 for longer backcountry rides with steep singletrack climbs and 180 for ski area stuff but 170 seems a nice middle ground. No wrong answer really. Just depends on your riding style and choice of set up. The nice thing about a fork that adjusts without additional parts or expense is you can try them all and see what works better for you.
Hi !
Thanks much for theses infos ! i just received my Mezzer ! I didnt know until yur message about this fork. She can go 140-180mm in just minutes.
Bests regards
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What is the longest dropper post a medium frame will handle for an average rider?
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Oneup 120mm is working great for me on a medium frame. I'm 172cm tall. It's just low enough to work well, anything with a taller stack height would be a problem for me.
For some reason half of the linkage is turning green on me lol. I noticed it was slightly not black when new, but now it's very green.
(https://i.imgur.com/koWE5aA.png)
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Oneup 120mm is working great for me on a medium frame. I'm 172cm tall. It's just low enough to work well, anything with a taller stack height would be a problem for me.
For some reason half of the linkage is turning green on me lol. I noticed it was slightly not black when new, but now it's very green.
(https://i.imgur.com/koWE5aA.png)
That's really weird, but I like that green color.
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Metal sourced from Chernobyl
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The frame looks interesting. But I think a bike which accepted a 150mm dropper would be better for me. Bummer.
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I am running a 160mm bike yoke revive on a large frame and it fits perfect
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Oneup's dropper has the shortest insertion and you can also get a low stack saddle like the Nukeproof horizon enduro saddle (also know as "Sam Hill enduro" with oil slick rails). Shorter cranks and thicker pedals will give you more clearance as well.
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After riding a few times, so far, I think getting the 170mm lyrik was the right decision. with the 40mm stem set low, it lifts up the bb enough so I don’t get pedal strikes and I have enough weight on the front to keep the front wheel down during climbs. It feels stable during descent but that’s about it, not enough time to do anything else since the trails got flooded in some sections and there’s a section where the landslide made it impossible to pass - I do know that I probably need to add volume spacers in the rear shock coz the shock was bought used from a guy who took it off from his evil following. Right now it feels too planted/linear.
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Look familiar?
https://www.kraftstoff-bikes.com/bikes/fullsuspension/spike-10-eagle/
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I think it's the same
Good point for this frame
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And heres another one
http://rythmbikes.com/produit/pace/ (http://rythmbikes.com/produit/pace/)
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Is there a frame like this in existence, from a Chinese manufacturer, with a modern geometry and good kinematics, but without the ridiculously small seatpost insertion and limited shock compatibility?
I was so stoked when I learned of it's existence, the short seatpost travel I could live with (150 Oneup could fit for my 80cm inseam) but when I read that the Mara shock with king can doesn't fit, it made the frame useless to my eyes.
I know of the Ican p9, unfortunately the reach is too short for my liking, sizing up isn't an option because of the long seat tube, plus I was unable to find any kinematics.values for it
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Is there a frame like this in existence, from a Chinese manufacturer, with a modern geometry and good kinematics, but without the ridiculously small seatpost insertion and limited shock compatibility?
I was so stoked when I learned of it's existence, the short seatpost travel I could live with (150 Oneup could fit for my 80cm inseam) but when I read that the Mara shock with king can doesn't fit, it made the frame useless to my eyes.
I know of the Ican p9, unfortunately the reach is too short for my liking, sizing up isn't an option because of the long seat tube, plus I was unable to find any kinematics.values for it
FM1002 / FM1166 Looks pretty good. Has my interest definitely. Also the AM 830 Pivot clone or the AM831 Santa Cruz clone look pretty good. FM1001 / FM1156 for a little shorter travel version looks good.
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FM1002 / FM1166
Seems like a good option for someone who needs a bike to go down well in natural, chunky terrain with no large drops, for me it's not progressive enough unfortunately, and not enough anti squat- I don't want to use the lockout switch.
I'm not a fan of clones, and more importantly- the BB is too low in those, I need to run the bike with 27.5 wheels.
Thanks for the reply either way.
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The LCFS947 is a fantastic bike. It climbs really well, especially on technical climbs, and its really stable on descends. The short insert for dropperpost is a "problem", bit you can use a 150 mm dropper, if you choose the right one. And its not a clone, its a original design by Light Carbon, and a good one.
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The killer thing for me is the inability to use the shock I want with his frame, 150mm drop Oneup post I could live with (though 180 is much appreciated with my shortish legs). If you're not as picky as I am for suspension choice, this frame is an awesome option, modern geo, good kinematics etc.
@edit Unless there were changes made to the original design? I see this picture with a coil shock, while the site says not compatible (not enough space).
@edit 2 ;P looked through the thread, now that I'm logged in, there are pictures, the clearance issue is different than I imagined, don't think a Mara can be made to fit, another issue is trunnion shock availability, even if it did fit.
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Can anybody measure and tell me the minimum distance (with a fully inserted post for this frame) from center of bottom bracket to the top of a fully extended 150mm dropper post for a medium frame? I am interested in this frame, But I am not sure if I would be able to make it work.
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Seems like a good option for someone who needs a bike to go down well in natural, chunky terrain with no large drops, for me it's not progressive enough unfortunately, and not enough anti squat- I don't want to use the lockout switch.
I'm not a fan of clones, and more importantly- the BB is too low in those, I need to run the bike with 27.5 wheels.
Thanks for the reply either way.
Looks like many other Horst Link style frames with a vertical shock linkage. Like Many Norco and Transition models. Or even the older model Rocky Mountain Slayer, which many people speak highly of. Where do you find the shock compression progressivity chart of this frame? Also, where is the anti squat chart for this frame?
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I believe I found it in the thread dedicated to that frame.
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(FM1002 / FM1166) Seems like a good option for someone who needs a bike to go down well in natural, chunky terrain with no large drops, for me it's not progressive enough unfortunately, and not enough anti squat- I don't want to use the lockout switch.
Am I missing something? The bike (FM 1002/ FM 1166) has just over 100% anti Squat at 30mm shock compression. Which is somewhere near a normal riders sag preload. And the leverage ratio IS quite progressive up until the 130mm shock compression range. Then the leverage ratio falls back a little bit to the 150mm mark. But even there the leverage ratio remains acceptable. I may be interested in either of these bikes (FM1002 / FM1166 or LCFS 947). The LCFS 947 seems as if it would be a great choice if it works for me. But as I have mentioned, nobody will tell me the (LCFS 947) distance from the bottom bracket center to the top of a 150mm dropper post set at it's exteneded position and with the post inerted as far as it will comfortably go into the seat tube. If this wont work for me due to basic design flaws, then the FM 1002/ FM 1166 seems like a maybe good option.
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Am I missing something? The bike (FM 1002/ FM 1166) has just over 100% anti Squat at 30mm shock compression. Which is somewhere near a normal riders sag preload. And the leverage ratio IS quite progressive up until the 130mm shock compression range. Then the leverage ratio falls back a little bit to the 150mm mark. But even there the leverage ratio remains acceptable. I may be interested in either of these bikes (FM1002 / FM1166 or LCFS 947). The LCFS 947 seems as if it would be a great choice if it works for me. But as I have mentioned, nobody will tell me the (LCFS 947) distance from the bottom bracket center to the top of a 150mm dropper post set at it's exteneded position and with the post inerted as far as it will comfortably go into the seat tube. If this wont work for me due to basic design flaws, then the FM 1002/ FM 1166 seems like a maybe good option.
Hi !
I just read yur message, and i received today a few hours ago my LCFS947 ! totaly happy with quality and finition. I just have to make a nice paint :)
I have the L size, and i have inseam about 81cm. I bought an 150mm dropper Oneup V2. I just see the toal height as yu asked, and it is about 68 cm (for me it is totally ok), it is height from center of BB to base of saddle. I put some photos :
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I hope it help yu !
Best regards
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Thanks for ther reply. I am not sure how that would be for the medium size. Would the seat post be inserted further on a medium? Or is the minimum distance to top of dropper post the same for both? Hopefully somebody has a medium to measure. Thanks.
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The M has 35mm less insertion length than the L.
I can measure a 120mm oneupv2 on a M if that would help. Personally would not go with a 150mm dropper on the M. I do mostly uplift downhill stuff and with the 120 the seat is just barely enough out of the way for me. I feel like the extra 3cm for the 150 would be too tall. But if you do more pedaling it might be worth it. I'm 172cm tall for reference. Maybe a low profile saddle would make it work? I just have a cheapo ztto one at the moment haha.
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I am looking for a bike to build. I hate going much less than 160mm dropper. So I assume that a 150mm dropper on a medium frame will have a minimum height that will place the seat too tall for medium riders many to use. That is my fear with this frame. Probably best for a taller longer legged rider who prefers a somewhat smaller frame. Otherwise it seems like a great mtb design.
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Hey guys, no one ever answered the previous guys question, can you run 150 front and rear suspension? i got a marzzochi bomber z2 im trying to save. or am i wasting my time.
thanks!
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The suspension/shock sizes are listed on the website... Shorter travel in the front is going to change the geometry a bit.
https://www.lightcarbon.com/all-new-enduro-carbon-frame-lcfs947_p172.html
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Hello,
i receive my frame last week and i would like to know wich rear derailleur 12V is it possible to use.
shimano? sram? both?
thanks for your help
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Looks like a standard straight hanger, so it can take SRAM derailleurs directly or Shimano ones with the horizontal extender link that Shimano includes.
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Hy,
My frame and all parts have arrived. Now I would like to start with the assembly. What hardware do I need to install the Rock Shox Super Deluxe Ultimate in the rear. The Light Carbon page says (30x10). But I can't find anything suitable or I'm overwhelmed with the choice.Does anyone have a link for me? At best a shop in Europe.
Thanks
:)
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Looks like a standard straight hanger, so it can take SRAM derailleurs directly or Shimano ones with the horizontal extender link that Shimano includes.
thanks ;)
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I am running a 160mm bike yoke revive on a large frame and it fits perfect
What’s your saddle height?
I want to mount 160 revive on L frame. My height is 755mm
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Has anyone built this bike on 27.5x26 wheels? How did it go?
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Hello Team,
I would like to buy this parts for my rockshox super deluxe
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/283974812378?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=709-53476-19255-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050
Is the right parts for this shock?
thanks for your help
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And heres another one
http://rythmbikes.com/produit/pace/ (http://rythmbikes.com/produit/pace/)
RYTHM website put new picture ;)
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RYTHM website put new picture ;)
One thing I don’t get is that they list the $6k model as having a Bomber CR shock.
Given that the only person here to use one had to grind down the spring and adjuster collar in a sketchy-looking (but probably safe enough) way to get it to fit, I wonder how they pull that off. Limited to certain spring rates they can add a narrow spacer to maybe?
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One thing I don’t get is that they list the $6k model as having a Bomber CR shock.
Given that the only person here to use one had to grind down the spring and adjuster collar in a sketchy-looking (but probably safe enough) way to get it to fit, I wonder how they pull that off. Limited to certain spring rates they can add a narrow spacer to maybe?
I wait to see some video with setup, perhaps they have a solution
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Hello Team,
I would like to buy this parts for my rockshox super deluxe
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/283974812378?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=709-53476-19255-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050
Is the right parts for this shock?
thanks for your help
hi,
someone can help me?
many thanks
seb
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hi,
someone can help me?
many thanks
seb
Yep that's the right one. Also make sure your super deluxe has a bushing in the eyelet when you get it.
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How do you think this bike would handle with 150mm travel front and rear?
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I think it should be more playful at that configuration. Currently The bike that I built is set at 159/170mm, it feels plush, like riding on a magic carpet.
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I think it should be more playful at that configuration. Currently The bike that I built is set at 159/170mm, it feels plush, like riding on a magic carpet.
And how does it pedal? Is it decent in flats and climbs?
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And how does it pedal? Is it decent in flats and climbs?
I don’t know how familiar you are with progressive geometry, but steep seat tube angles have noticeably countered the problem of pedaling/climbing a long travel bike. Better suspension has helped a lot with that problem too.
As long as you’re working with decently efficient suspension, weight/rolling resistance is usually more of a problem than the amount of travel you have.
The seat tube on a modern long travel bike is already so steep that shortening the fork will make the handling skittish and keep you from getting weight over the back with the dropper up. Personally I don’t think most modern bikes feel right unless you *add* 10-20mm of fork travel over stock.
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Yep that's the right one. Also make sure your super deluxe has a bushing in the eyelet when you get it.
Many thanks
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(https://zupimages.net/up/21/51/654o.jpg)
(https://zupimages.net/up/21/51/ztz1.jpg)
need a shock and 2 disk on 203mm and the bike is finish ;D
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need a shock and 2 disk on 203mm and the bike is finish ;D
That looks really nice. Don't be surprised when people stop you on the trail and ask if Iron Horse is back in the high end game.
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That looks really nice. Don't be surprised when people stop you on the trail and ask if Iron Horse is back in the high end game.
Yes for sure ;D thanks for comments
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Yep that's the right one. Also make sure your super deluxe has a bushing in the eyelet when you get it.
hello,
I have an another question about RockShox Rear Shock Mounting Hardware. Which screw are you used to fix it near BB?
original deliver with frame or a new one?
thanks for your help ;)
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It is finish
(https://zupimages.net/up/22/02/885c.jpg) (https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=22/02/885c.jpg)
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Nicely done, yep with this rig I fine that either you need 4 pot brakes or bigger rotors - 203mm at least. So my current solution is 180mm front rotor and 203mm rear rotor.
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Nicely done, yep with this rig I fine that either you need 4 pot brakes or bigger rotors - 203mm at least. So my current solution is 180mm front rotor and 203mm rear rotor.
I use SHIMANO SLX 4 pot brakes with 203mm for front and rear. It works really good
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Look familiar?
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/sciu-launches-a-carbon-enduro-bike-with-ambitious-sustainability-goals.html
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Look familiar?
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/sciu-launches-a-carbon-enduro-bike-with-ambitious-sustainability-goals.html
Interesting that they were able to get so much information on sustainability from the manufacturer (not sure if that’s actually LightCarbon?), and that the factory’s putting so much effort into it.
That would seem to be fairly unusual.
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Interesting that they were able to get so much information on sustainability from the manufacturer (not sure if that’s actually LightCarbon?), and that the factory’s putting so much effort into it.
That would seem to be fairly unusual.
Who is going to tell them they are lying even if incorrect?
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"However, due to the pandemic, we have not yet been able to visit the production on-site - this is yet to happen."
I'm sure the factory told sciu what they wanted to hear and they in turn painted a nice rosey picture for pinkbike ;D
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I would just be happy if they addressed the dropper post compatibility issue for the medium sized frame so that shorter riders can use this bike. It looks like a great frame design but for that fact.
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Found another one.. https://questcarboncycles.com/products/2021-q-enduro
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Interesting that they were able to get so much information on sustainability from the manufacturer (not sure if that’s actually LightCarbon?), and that the factory’s putting so much effort into it.
That would seem to be fairly unusual.
The connecting part between 2 triangles is made on one part and not with 2 parts linking by screw like light carbon frame design
perhaps it is better and it is possible to buy spare
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[Edit: I sold the frame]
Hi,
I'm considering selling my LCFS947 (M, matte black), please message me, if interested.
I love this frame, but I also joined the AM831 group buy and the 2 frames are really quite similar.
In my opinion the 947 is stiffer and more robust (also does not have the triangle linkage problem).
I'm short and light (5'7", 144) and the 831 is a tad easier to manage in tight corners, that's why I settled on that (plus it came in a flashy baby-blue color :)
The frame is in very good condition ridden less than 300 miles, with few cosmetic scratches and no major crashes on it.
I have Fox Float DPS Evol shock on it, which I can also sell with the frame.
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I'm short and light (5'7", 144) and the 831 is a tad easier to manage in tight corners, that's why I settled on that (plus it came in a flashy baby-blue color :)
What makes you say the 831 is easier to manage? Did you try an 831 in the same conditions? The chainstays are about the same length, just 2 mm less for the 831 (would that make the difference?).
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What makes you say the 831 is easier to manage? Did you try an 831 in the same conditions? The chainstays are about the same length, just 2 mm less for the 831 (would that make the difference?).
Hard to say: yes I did ride both in the same trail/condition, but my fitness level could have been different.
I only noticed a small difference, if any.
I also thought that the 947 climbed a little better, but again not sure why.
.. as I was writing this, I just remember that I was initially running a 5mm longer stem in the 947, which could account for both.
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Hi,
I'm considering selling my LCFS947 (M, matte black), please message me, if interested.
I love this frame, but I also joined the AM831 group buy and the 2 frames are really quite similar.
In my opinion the 947 is stiffer and more robust (also does not have the triangle linkage problem).
I'm short and light (5'7", 144) and the 831 is a tad easier to manage in tight corners, that's why I settled on that (plus it came in a flashy baby-blue color :)
The frame is in very good condition ridden less than 300 miles, with few cosmetic scratches and no major crashes on it.
I have Fox Float DPS Evol shock on it, which I can also sell with the frame.
At 5'7" in height what was the longest dropper post you could use with the 947? That is my issue only with this frame.
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At 5'7" in height what was the longest dropper post you could use with the 947? That is my issue only with this frame.
I use a 150mm One Up V2, but when I stick it all the way down, which is necessary for my height, the bend in the sit tube pushes the cable to the side, making it unreliable.
To fix this, I unscrewed the actuator cup by half a turn (and added threadlock). This this moved the position of the cable towards the front of the bike, clearing the tube bend. Note: the One Up cable exit is out-of-center (see https://s14761.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/One-up-V2-dropper-actuator-001.jpg (https://s14761.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/One-up-V2-dropper-actuator-001.jpg)).
I don't know if the cable exit is always in the same position relatively to the sit clamp... if not, some of the posts might be fine out of the box.
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I'm 5'7", using a 125mm dropper. I'm not one of those that require the post to be flushed with the seat collar, as long as my butt can get out of the way, it's good enough.
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Just to add that, the dropper does stick out from the seat collar a bit but so far I have not had any issues with the cabling or actuation.
So it really depends if you're ok with that kind of setup, I also use it to indicate if I'm too low or too far back behind the saddle. With a long travel 29er it's just too easy for me to buzz my butt on the tyres.
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Just received the frame purchased from user riding_truckee. I’ve been obsessing over this frame for months and happy to have it in the flesh. It’s not as large as you’d guess based on the sizing. The seat post insert depth is shallow as mentioned. I’m using a 1UP 150mm inserted as far as it’ll let me. Up front is a 170mm Yari (2019). My front wheel is currently stuck on another bike with a rounded off thru axle so I cannot sit on the bike yet. I’ll be changing out the stock headset for something more robust as well.
Pictures
https://imgur.com/a/5tCad1G
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hi all, just want to double confirm before i push the button,
is below invoice same as what you receive before purchasing the frame?
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hi all, just want to double confirm before i push the button,
is below invoice same as what you receive before purchasing the frame?
Yup looks good.
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Yup looks good.
thank for reply!
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Yup looks good.
Hi Benny, what's about your frame now?Has the assembly been completed?
post some photos pls.
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(https://i.imgur.com/m8WY2ts.jpg)
1 year update! Non drive side picture oops, the climb was very long for me haha. My riding is 50/50 lift access janky park stuff and trail riding. The 947 has been perfect, definitely saved me from some sketchy lines several times. The frame also survived a few big crashes and came away with only a few scratches. It's been problem free as well, apart from the linkage changing colour on me. I re-painted it over the winter and it looks pretty good for a rattle can job. Had no problem disassembling and reassembling the linkage. I also added sound dampening foam to all the internal cables and it made a huge difference. I would definitely recommend adding them to any new build.
I also upgraded to a nukeproof horizon enduro saddle and that was worth it as well. It's a low height saddle so it helps get it out of the way when the dropper is down.
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Great location for mtb
I completely agree on sound damping foam, it makes so much difference.
Once i installed foam after getting annoyed rattling noise on bounce test, I was like that should be done by factory.
how did you managed to keep slx crankset that clean tho?
My 7100 is a mess, easily scratched on both sides even the slx logo ;D
(http://Screenshot_1.jpg)
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No clue haha, the bottoms are pretty banged up from all my terrible technique caused crank strikes.
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When i lift the rear end of the bike up, i can feel there is a small amount of play in the rear linkage and a very small clunk noise can be heard. It is very small, but still there. I figured out like i said previously that the mounting bolt for the rear shock is a bit too small in diameter for the shock bushing, even though i am 100% i got the right size bushing kit. Does anyone else have that? Maybe it is a problem with my frame/hardware that came with it?
Cheers!
I have recently built up a medium size lcfs947 and encountered this play, at the lower shock mount, when lifting up the bike. I can actually feel/hear this play when descending rooty and rough downhills. Has anyone else encountered this and come up with a solution?
(https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/t7hZMowxHVfDuL5tEreVc84jIwBeAIF89Y4YMFf59Fg-1536x2048.jpg)
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I have the same play on a L frame
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As far as i understand, your lower shock bolt is smaller in diameter for the 10x30 hardware. I believe manufacturing tolerance wasn't correct.
So, maybe remove rear shock and try installing the bolt, inspect the fit, any small play will be quite noticeable on the bike.
You should be able to push the bolt with a slight force.
If gravity pulls the bolt all the way in the hardware you may need a replacement bolt.
I recently purchase/build this frame and i had some hard time to install the lower bolt and shock wasn't even on the bike.
Although my complaint is the opposite, i was able to fit it eventually.
They may have change the tolerance for new batches, it is not the best fit for me but it works for now.
I also want to give a tip,
When installing multiple bolts like pivot arms shock bolt and trunnion, keep them slightly loose until all the bolts are installed.
Then you can torque the bolts and like all the sequential tightening systems double check the torques after finishing first pattern.
This method saved me lot of time & headache. Hope that helps to you guys.
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I don't have any play either, the shock bolt sits tight in the frame and on the shock, actually so tight the coating on the bolt has shaved a little from pulling it out. I haven't ridden the frame yet so I don't know if its something that could come later tho.
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I have this frame in size large and has the same issue with play. My lower shock bolt was slightly under sized. So I purchased some aluminum tubing with a 10mm OD and a 5mm ID which is the correct hole size for an m6 tap. I cut it to length and tapped each end. Red lock tight on one bolt and some never seize on the other. The tubing came in at 9.95mm vs the 9.72mm on my stock bolt. The play is gone and I even saves a few grams over the stock steel bolt. Total cost was about 20.
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Took the lower mount apart and took a few measurements. Initial thoughts are true- the bolt is indeed out of tolerance for a good fit to the shock mounting sleeve.
The QC seems off enough that the bolt tapers in diameter as it gets closer to the bolt head.
- Fox mounting hardware sleeve inner diameter is about 0.395"
- Smallest diameter of the bolt is 0.388
- Difference is 0.007" or about 0.2mm
Fox mount sleeve inner diameter:
(https://i.imgur.com/tmGeqgvm.jpg)
Tail end of bolt:
(https://i.imgur.com/YExmmTUm.jpg)
Middle of bolt:
(https://i.imgur.com/fqDG5dcm.jpg)
Head end of bolt:
(https://i.imgur.com/jfPPhJXm.jpg)
I will be contacting Light Carbon to see what they can do.
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I don't have any play either, the shock bolt sits tight in the frame and on the shock, actually so tight the coating on the bolt has shaved a little from pulling it out. I haven't ridden the frame yet so I don't know if its something that could come later tho.
I guess you purchased the frame recently same as i did, that means LC knew the issue and improved on the previous bolt. I ridden the frame and still no play, not yet at least.
Mine also looks slightly scratched, but thats only the paint. Better than being smaller i guess.
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Zero play in my “m” frame. Just installed a new superdeluxe to get rid of the DPS and still no issues.
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I had play in mine and also measured the bolt to be smaller than the shock bushing. I ended up using a shim cut from a aluminum beer can to take up the play. It is fine for now but I have also reached out to Lightcarbon.
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I reached out to light carbon on this before I made my own fix and was very politely told that it was with in spec. If anyone else gets the same response and want to go down the path I took let me know. I have extra bar stock and can make you one. Just PM me.
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Building another LCFS947, this one in size M. But cassettes and rear derailleurs are impossible to buy for the moment. (Shimano SLX) So this is as far as I get right now.
(https://cdn.abicart.com/shop/images/192200467-origpic-2172f3/1785/art85/h0467/lcfs947_m1.jpg)
(https://cdn.abicart.com/shop/images/192200467-origpic-da4a15/1785/art85/h0467/lcfs947_m2.jpg)
(https://cdn.abicart.com/shop/images/192200467-origpic-4336b8/1785/art85/h0467/lcfs947_m3.jpg)
(https://cdn.abicart.com/shop/images/192200467-origpic-5eeb7a/1785/art85/h0467/lcfs947_m4.jpg)
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Yeah, I had to use a SunRace 12 speed cassette and KMC X12 chain for my Shimano 12 speed setup because the wide range Shimano cassettes are so difficult to find…
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Any Dropper issues with the medium frame?
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Any Dropper issues with the medium frame?
I am running a Rockshox Reverb 31.6 OD by 355mm with 100mm travel on a medium and it fits me perfectly. I am 5'-6" with about a 30" inseam. I have the insert portion bottomed out and the extended position is right where I want it. The drop position also clears just right.
Keep in mind that different model droppers have a different overall length which will cause the insert depth to matter significatntly. The frame insertion depth is about 5" on a medium frame and it bottoms on the hose attachment not the edge of the cylinder. I changed my hose connection from the connectamajig to the lower profile rev C and probably gained a fraction of an inch in insert depth.
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Building another LCFS947, this one in size M. But cassettes and rear derailleurs are impossible to buy for the moment. (Shimano SLX)
Your build looks great! Btw, you can buy OEM Shimano parts on aliexpress. I've bought 7100 and 6100 derailleurs and they are original for sure.
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For those with the shock bolt play: A temporary solution that I have done is to fill the inside of the shock sleeve and cover outside of the bolt with heavy automotive grease. This has reduced the sudden force of the shock unloading and transmitting it to the bolt.
Light Carbon has offered to send a bolt but only if I cover the shipping cost. $46 for just a bolt seems... high. I may have to wait until they release a new frame so that I can have it shipped together.
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Had my first ride on this frame thanks to the help of this forum. This is a medium frame with a 150mm one-up v2 dropper; I am 5 10,” and the seat is raised just a tad above the max insertion of the frame. This frame was ordered in January 2022, and there is no play in the rear shock bolt. My goal was to build this bike for around $2500 cad, which seemed impossible initially, but after I got the wheelset off a new Marin rift zone for $100 and a newly rebuilt lyric for $450 on the marketplace,,, I pulled the trigger. I believe it cost around $2800 with me making some splurges here and there from my local bike shop instead of buying online.
From my short ride today, I am stoked about how it rides. My other bike is a large 2021 Marin rift (not related to the wheelset), and I feel minimal compromise, if any, riding this larger travel frame. More to come after it has adequately been tuned and more time on the saddle.
Parts:
2019 lyric with charge 2.1 RCT 3
Rock shock deluxe rear shock
ZTTO  4pot callipers
Shimano XT m8100 levers
Shimano rt64 rotors
Maxxis minion dhr 2.4 front and rear
Shimano dear 1x12 groupset (Ali express)
Ali express stem
Ali express crankset
Ali express pedals
XLC bars
MTB volt seat
One up v2 dropper and lever
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From my short ride today, I am stoked about how it rides. My other bike is a large 2021 Marin rift (not related to the wheelset), and I feel minimal compromise, if any, riding this larger travel frame. More to come after it has adequately been tuned and more time on the saddle.
I’ve got about 250 park miles on mine and it is an absolute brute. Enjoy it!
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the installationlist from my another customer:
Frame:
Lightcarbon LCFS947 -Large-
Build
Fork: Rockshox Lyric Select 170mm 42mm with 2 tokens
Rear Shock: Rockshox Deluxe Ultimate 185x55 159mm travel with factory tokens. Found 190€ new on bike24 so no piggyback..
Drivetrain: Shimano XT8100 shifter / SLX7100 Rear derailleur / SLX7100 crankset 32T 170mm/ SLX 6100 Chain & cassette
Brakes: Shimano deore 6120 with metallic pads
Rotors: Slx RT66 203mm F - 180mm R
Handlebar: Nukeproof horizon v2 - 35mm- 25mm rise- 770mm
Stem: Nukeproof horizon 35mm
Wheelset: Nukeproof Horizon v2 102T
Headset and seatpost clamp: Nukeproof
Dropper post: Brand-X 170mm 31.6 going to swap with a friend's 150mm. This frame works allright with Oneup v2 150mm only!
Saddle: WTB volt
Tires: Maxxis Aggressor / Dissector / Assegai on rotation 2.5/2.6
link in chinertown:https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3719.0.html?spm=a2700.aliseller.0.0.51254125NUI7yg
Jim(at)lightcarbon.com
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:'( Slacking on finding a downtube protector finally caught up to me. Kicked up a rock at the park today. Looks like it just gouged out some carbon, no big cracks. I'll probably take out the bottom bracket and feel around or get a little scope camera. It still feels solid around and on the mark. Trying to decide if I should try to get a new front triangle, or go for something entirely new.
(https://i.imgur.com/2uo0TTk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DPK7oEK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/snIaYhj.jpg)
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Yikes... that sucks.
If you do get a new front triangle, the "Salsa Down Tube Protector Blackthorn and Cassidy Carbon - 1563" protector fits well
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There's generic downtube protectors on ebay/aliexpress as well. Nukeproof dissent protector kinda works also, but it doesn't cover all the way to the edges.
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I would try to patch it up with a carbon fiber repair kit that can be had on Amazon for $50. It is just 2 part epoxy with carbon fiber fabric. Prep the area with alcohol and knock off any loose paint. Make a slurry with the epoxy kit and some chopped strands of carbon fiber and apply it to the damaged area. Wrap it tightly with some shrink wrap to compress and allow it cure.
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I would try to patch it up with a carbon fiber repair kit that can be had on Amazon for $50. It is just 2 part epoxy with carbon fiber fabric. Prep the area with alcohol and knock off any loose paint. Make a slurry with the epoxy kit and some chopped strands of carbon fiber and apply it to the damaged area. Wrap it tightly with some shrink wrap to compress and allow it cure.
I looked into this, actually doesn't seem like too difficult of a repair. But there's no kits in Canada that are cheap. The Amazon ones are 100+, and I checked to buy the items individually and it'd be 150ish.
But Wendy @lightcarbon sent me an invoice for a new front triangle for $432 shipped. Pretty tempted to just go with that. Little bit more expensive but then I won't ever be concerned about it. Plus a downtube protector haha.
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This the kit I've used for some repairs. Sadly it was only $30 a few months ago but is now $50.
https://www.amazon.com/Twill-Carbon-Fiber-Epoxy-Resin/dp/B0785NLJHD/ref=sr_1_3?crid=C15GMXYVVXPT&keywords=carbon+fiber+repair+kit&qid=1661449101&sprefix=carbon+fiber+repair+kit%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-3
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Had my first ride on this frame thanks to the help of this forum.
Parts:
2019 lyric with charge 2.1 RCT 3
Rock shock deluxe rear shock
ZTTO  4pot callipers
Shimano XT m8100 levers
Shimano rt64 rotors
Maxxis minion dhr 2.4 front and rear
Shimano dear 1x12 groupset (Ali express)
Ali express stem
Ali express crankset
Ali express pedals
XLC bars
MTB volt seat
One up v2 dropper and lever
What was the finished weight of this beast?
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I looked into this, actually doesn't seem like too difficult of a repair. But there's no kits in Canada that are cheap. The Amazon ones are 100+, and I checked to buy the items individually and it'd be 150ish.
But Wendy @lightcarbon sent me an invoice for a new front triangle for $432 shipped. Pretty tempted to just go with that. Little bit more expensive but then I won't ever be concerned about it. Plus a downtube protector haha.
Just buy epoxy resin+hardener kit and 3k carbon sheet.
They are wildly available worldwide.
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For the person who put the coil shock in their frame, can you post more photos of your coil shock mount?
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I’ve actually seen another one of these out in the wild with a could. I believe it was a Marzocchi Bomber and fit fine.
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To get ok clearance with the Marzocchi Bomber CR i did a small modification on the coil and damper. I grinded of about 3 mm on the backside and now its all clear
The bomber does not fit fine according to Stefan's experiences. Unless there's a different version of it.
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The bomber does not fit fine according to Stefan's experiences. Unless there's a different version of it.
You’re right, it was an older model. The new ones indeed do not.
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Can someone compare the ride character of this bike to a Trek Slash?
I'm considering building one of these up with a high spec OR buying a new Trek Slash 8
The benefit of the LC is that it'll weight 13.3kg when I'm done.
I live in China, so I'm already saving on the frame without delivery fees
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I can only compare it to the Remedy (similar enough) and it’s just as good. My frame has been bulletproof, only thing I’ve broken is components (that I went cheap on) … at the end of the day go with your heart
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Just got my frame and everything looks good exept the hole for the rear axle is a very sloppy fit. 12.7mm is what i measured.
Anyone else notice the same?
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Just got my frame and everything looks good exept the hole for the rear axle is a very sloppy fit. 12.7mm is what i measured.
Anyone else notice the same?
Can you share a pic?
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Can you share a pic?
Yeah absolutely! Will this do?
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Shit. Sorry! Those are some huge pictures..
Edit: I managed to fix it
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I can only compare it to the Remedy (similar enough) and it’s just as good. My frame has been bulletproof, only thing I’ve broken is components (that I went cheap on) … at the end of the day go with your heart
Thanks! That sounds good.
What issues can expect when building the frame? or do most things fit together quite well?
But the real question, to build or to buy....??
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Yeah absolutely! Will this do?
Have you tried installing it with a wheel? It looks normal from what I can tell. I can pull my wheel and measure mine as well.
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Thanks! That sounds good.
What issues can expect when building the frame? or do most things fit together quite well?
But the real question, to build or to buy....??
You shouldn’t expect any issues unless you’ve never built a bike then it’ll be personal experience lol. I only got hung up on cable routing but even that wasn’t horrible to manage. The big thing as all the others mention is the seat post insert length. You really need to buy a OneUp dropper for this frame. Unless your super tall with long legs.
As for build vs buy, depends on you. I like the reward of building something myself, being able to spec what components I want, and having something a little different than everyone else on the trail.
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Does anybody know where i can get a stronger derailleur hanger for this frame? The one that is supplied with is a bit soft. Ive had to straighten it a couple of times already.
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Does anybody know where i can get a stronger derailleur hanger for this frame? The one that is supplied with is a bit soft. Ive had to straighten it a couple of times already.
As far as I’m aware only LightCarbon supplies them. Mine seem plenty strong, maybe you got a bad unit?
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So this is my LCFS947 so far. Still waiting on some parts so it is not complete. But damn am i happy with the colour! Was trying to find something like the Öhlins yellow but with a pearl/metallic effect and found a Porsche colour that looked right. My first diy paintjob and is super happy.
And being a swede i had to splurge on the Öhlins suspension..
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So this is my LCFS947 so far. Still waiting on some parts so it is not complete. But damn am i happy with the colour! Was trying to find something like the Öhlins yellow but with a pearl/metallic effect and found a Porsche colour that looked right. My first diy paintjob and is super happy.
And being a swede i had to splurge on the Öhlins suspension..
That looks fantastic man! I’m considering tearing mine down in the off-season and painting it Porsche Ultraviolet.
Jealous of the Ohlins stuff. Love to hear how you think it rides!
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I've seen there's pressift headset. Is it indeed ZS type with press-in cups or just drop-in (typo on page)? I'm thinking about works components -1 deg angleset option.
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It’s a ZS for sure.
I’m sitting at about 63.5 ht angle and it’s so damn good. 170 front suspension and mullet setup.
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I have recently built up a medium size lcfs947 and encountered this play, at the lower shock mount, when lifting up the bike. I can actually feel/hear this play when descending rooty and rough downhills. Has anyone else encountered this and come up with a solution?
(https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/t7hZMowxHVfDuL5tEreVc84jIwBeAIF89Y4YMFf59Fg-1536x2048.jpg)
Are you running a Fox Float X2? Does it fit?
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Yup. That is a Fox x2. It fits within the frame and has about 2-4mm of space on the sides. The back sticks out a bit (<1mm) so the cover, for the rear tire, does not fit. I intend to remove some material on the cover so that I can re-install it.
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So for people that have built one of these up, any unexpected hiccups occur? Anything that needs modification or excessive work? How are the bearings?
Looking into building one of these up with Lightcarbon wheels this winter.
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So for people that have built one of these up, any unexpected hiccups occur? Anything that needs modification or excessive work? How are the bearings?
Looking into building one of these up with Lightcarbon wheels this winter.
Zero hiccups or modifications needed. The cable routing can be a pita but no more than any other bike. Bearings are fine I’ve ridden on mine for over 500 HARD miles and they’re still super smooth. Only complaint is the lack of seatpost depth and no real chance to run a coil shock.
I did find a creak in the seat stays which were replaced rapidly by LC.
Overall much better than my 958 I’m currently building.
As for their wheels I can’t speak on them but also interested in getting a set.
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I had no hiccups in building mine up. i did have the issue where the lower shock pin was slightly undersized resulting in slight play in the suspension. i fixed this by making my own pin out of alloy tubing. shaved some weight and made it a much tighter fit. Very happy over all with this build.
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Yup. That is a Fox x2. It fits within the frame and has about 2-4mm of space on the sides. The back sticks out a bit (<1mm) so the cover, for the rear tire, does not fit. I intend to remove some material on the cover so that I can re-install it.
How does it ride?
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Yup. That is a Fox x2. It fits within the frame and has about 2-4mm of space on the sides. The back sticks out a bit (<1mm) so the cover, for the rear tire, does not fit. I intend to remove some material on the cover so that I can re-install it.
I had that problem when i mounted my Öhlins TTX2 Air. I designed a new cover that can be 3d printed that have space for the larger shocks.
It prints flat but is easily bent to proper shape. I am happy to share the stl file if anyone wants to print it.
Edit: link to file https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5554272
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I had that problem when i mounted my Öhlins TTX2 Air. I designed a new cover that can be 3d printed that have space for the larger shocks.
It prints flat but is easily bent to proper shape. I am happy to share the stl file if anyone wants to print it.
Looks proper. Good work pal!
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Looks proper. Good work pal!
Please could you share that file!
Thank you.
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Please could you share that file!
Thank you.
Absolutely! Here it is.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5554272
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Yup. That is a Fox x2. It fits within the frame and has about 2-4mm of space on the sides. The back sticks out a bit (<1mm) so the cover, for the rear tire, does not fit. I intend to remove some material on the cover so that I can re-install it.
Got my frame and X2 shock. It touches the frame when at full extension..... It's fine when sagged, but when unloaded there is definitely contact.
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Do you also have a medium size frame?
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Do you also have a medium size frame?
Yes, it's a medium. If you have a way to make it fit I'll keep it. Because it's the ideal shock
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Do you also have a medium size frame?
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Oy.... I just checked and it is indeed hitting in that spot. When I asked, last November during purchase, they told me that if the shock was 185x55 it would fit. The website didn't detail that the x2 will not fit at the time either
Should have done my due diligence to double check the fit after I put pressure in the shock (installed it with the shock aired down).
There's no way these large diameter shocks will fit unless the pivot is re-designed to be a little longer.
It's a shame really,... it's an enduro frame that can't take any enduro shocks.
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Oy.... I just checked and it is indeed hitting in that spot. When I asked, last November during purchase, they told me that if the shock was 185x55 it would fit. The website didn't detail that the x2 will not fit at the time either
Should have done my due diligence to double check the fit after I put pressure in the shock (installed it with the shock aired down).
There's no way these large diameter shocks will fit unless the pivot is re-designed to be a little longer.
It's a shame really,... it's an enduro frame that can't take any enduro shocks.
I was hoping you'd have some magic voodoo answer for me to get it to fit
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I was hoping you'd have some magic voodoo answer for me to get it to fit
Sorry dude. I'm really bummed as well. LC has e-mailed me saying that they will tweak the mold or the pivot for the future. I can't see that happening any time soon.
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My frame has a slight crack in the UD paint, nothing serious. Should I ask for a partial refund for the damage?
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My frame has a slight crack in the UD paint, nothing serious. Should I ask for a partial refund for the damage?
Mind sharing a picture? They’ll likely offer a partial refund anyway.
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Sorry dude. I'm really bummed as well. LC has e-mailed me saying that they will tweak the mold or the pivot for the future. I can't see that happening any time soon.
Imagine they lower the pivot point and clear the dropper insertion for 3-5cm. I wouldn't care about exposed shock at all.
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Mind sharing a picture? They’ll likely offer a partial refund anyway.
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Looks like you need to be extra careful about seat clamp torque.
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Looks like you need to be extra careful about seat clamp torque.
Agreed. Carbon paste and about 4 nm will set you right. But please use a torque wrench.
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Oy.... I just checked and it is indeed hitting in that spot. When I asked, last November during purchase, they told me that if the shock was 185x55 it would fit. The website didn't detail that the x2 will not fit at the time either
Should have done my due diligence to double check the fit after I put pressure in the shock (installed it with the shock aired down).
There's no way these large diameter shocks will fit unless the pivot is re-designed to be a little longer.
It's a shame really,... it's an enduro frame that can't take any enduro shocks.
Is there any damage on your frame?
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No structural damage. Just a small imprint where the shock body would hit
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No structural damage. Just a small imprint where the shock body would hit
Surely we could file it down slightly tonmake space for the shock? The frame is very strong in that area. Once done, add some clear coat and frame protection?
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I just tried fitting a Fox Float X on... only to find that the air canister also hits the frame. This is garbage.
Edit: I made a dumb. It fits fine.
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I just tried fitting a Fox Float X on... only to find that the air canister also hits the frame. This is garbage.
Ouch.. sorry man!
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Hmm... maybe I was too hasty in my judgement. Bolted down and up to air pressure it has about 1 mm of space from hitting the frame.
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The build is finally finished!
LCFS947 - Medium
LC Carbon wheels and their hubs (are great by the way)
SLX Drivetrain
XT Brakes 203 Rotors
2022 Lyric Ultimate 170mm
2021 DPX2 185x55
PNW Loam Dropper 150mm
Maxxis Dissector Rear
Maxxis DHF Front
Ergon SMC Pro Saddle
Nukeproof Horizon Stem
Nukeproof Samhill bars
Burgtec Grips
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The build is finally finished!
LCFS947 - Medium
LC Carbon wheels and their hubs (are great by the way)
SLX Drivetrain
XT Brakes 203 Rotors
2022 Lyric Ultimate 170mm
2021 DPX2 185x55
PNW Loam Dropper 150mm
Maxxis Dissector Rear
Maxxis DHF Front
Ergon SMC Pro Saddle
Nukeproof Horizon Stem
Nukeproof Samhill bars
Burgtec Grips
Nice! What bottom bracket? Did you get the SLX groupset off of alie? Interested to hear more about the lightcarbon wheels!
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I have same drivetrain using shimano BB-MT800; better looking than bb52 cost more, last more and thats about it.
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Nice! What bottom bracket? Did you get the SLX groupset off of alie? Interested to hear more about the lightcarbon wheels!
Yes, I got the whole groupset.
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has anyone built the LCFS947 as a mullet?
How much will the BB drop with a 27.5" rear wheel, 2.6" and a 29" front wheel, 2.4", and a 160 mm fork?
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has anyone built the LCFS947 as a mullet?
How much will the BB drop with a 27.5" rear wheel, 2.6" and a 29" front wheel, 2.4", and a 160 mm fork?
I’ve been using mine as a mullet for most of this season. Only difference is 29x2.5 front @ 170mm travel, 27.5x2.5 rear.
I’ve not measured the BB drop but it doesn’t seem much diminished. I only pedal strike a little more than as a full 29er but it’s still not common.. that would be solved by going to 165 cranks.
The bike is definitely slower as a mullet but loads more fun to ride. I highly recommend trying it.
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Thanks for your reply and sharing your experience.
Light Carbon answered me that the BB will drop 17 mm to 330 mm if I run it as I asked. 330 mm is not too bad and with 165 mm cranks maybe pedal strike want be a problem.
Im really considering this as a fun option :-)
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Thanks for your reply and sharing your experience.
Light Carbon answered me that the BB will drop 17 mm to 330 mm if I run it as I asked. 330 mm is not too bad and with 165 mm cranks maybe pedal strike want be a problem.
Im really considering this as a fun option :-)
Do it. I have not once considered going back to full 29. But also I only ride my 947 downhill. No pedaling required. ;D
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For general riding (albeit very gravity-focused and often in the big mountains), I tried converting both a 29er and 27.5 frame to mullet and found it felt unbalanced and a little awkward in both cases, each a little differently. If I was pure gravity riding, particularly lift served, it would have been less of an issue but I just felt faster, more stable and capable on the pure 29er.
Personally I’ve become a full on 29er (29x2.6) convert in the process and will probably not ride anything else ever again. I was a 27.5 guy for years but mainly because I just hadn’t spent enough time on a dialed-in 29er with big enough tires.
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Hi Benny, what's about your frame now?Has the assembly been completed?
post some photos pls.
sorry for my English, i am Malaysian, bear with it
here i gonna share my build that finish last week, and been participated a DH competition in malaysia mersing,
frame size is M size
Parts :
FOX 36 grip 2 160mm
FOX float X2
Formula CURA 4 4 piston brake
(gonna change to deore 4 pot due to compatibility to frame and deore 4 pot is the best brake and value in my humble opinion)
Shimano m9100 rotors
MULLET setup: entity SLX 29/27.5 (from polygon T8/7) gonna try LC rim when the bills pile up
Shimano deore 1x12 CS
Shimano deore FC crank
Shimano XTR RD
Shimano pro 50mm stem
Shimano pro handle bar
Shimano pro seatpost
FOX transfer 175mm dropper (not recommend it, too long even with 180cm height)
vinyl wrap Mazda soul red but turnout it more like a charry red
I did printed out the mudguard that shared by Tjhosan to see is it fit float x2,
however it is a blind section, i guess it is ok, as i survive 2 feet drop and huge road gap without cracking the mudguard..
geometry is superb, came from polygon t8 L size 29er user, this bike felt light to control on air, fun, rock garden section became so much controllable compare to T8
to the dropper length, 175mm dropper definitely is a huge NO for m size frame, i barely use 125 of droppers travel, and i am a 180cm height person
the 130mm insert is not enough to make the dropper comfortable either climbing nor moving in the air.
gonna change to 150mm dropper, and i guess it will be perfect as it will lower down at least 25mm length at retreated position.
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I did printed out the mudguard that shared by Tjhosan to see is it fit float x2,
however it is a blind section, i guess it is ok, as i survive 2 feet drop and huge road gap without cracking the mudguard..
If you want i can make the cutout bigger in the mudguard! Just tell me how much more clearance you need, if i can get the diameter of the float x2 and how far from the bottom eyelet that diameter is i can model it easy.
Glad someone found it useful! ;D
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sorry for my English, i am Malaysian, bear with it
here i gonna share my build that finish last week, and been participated a DH competition in malaysia mersing,
frame size is M size
Parts :
FOX 36 grip 2 160mm
FOX float X2
Formula CURA 4 4 piston brake
(gonna change to deore 4 pot due to compatibility to frame and deore 4 pot is the best brake and value in my humble opinion)
Shimano m9100 rotors
MULLET setup: entity SLX 29/27.5 (from polygon T8/7) gonna try LC rim when the bills pile up
Shimano deore 1x12 CS
Shimano deore FC crank
Shimano XTR RD
Shimano pro 50mm stem
Shimano pro handle bar
Shimano pro seatpost
FOX transfer 175mm dropper (not recommend it, too long even with 180cm height)
vinyl wrap Mazda soul red but turnout it more like a charry red
I did printed out the mudguard that shared by Tjhosan to see is it fit float x2,
however it is a blind section, i guess it is ok, as i survive 2 feet drop and huge road gap without cracking the mudguard..
geometry is superb, came from polygon t8 L size 29er user, this bike felt light to control on air, fun, rock garden section became so much controllable compare to T8
to the dropper length, 175mm dropper definitely is a huge NO for m size frame, i barely use 125 of droppers travel, and i am a 180cm height person
the 130mm insert is not enough to make the dropper comfortable either climbing nor moving in the air.
gonna change to 150mm dropper, and i guess it will be perfect as it will lower down at least 25mm length at retreated position.
Be careful with that X2. It doesn't fit the frame, I returned mine because it was touching the frame.
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sorry for my English, i am Malaysian, bear with it
here i gonna share my build that finish last week, and been participated a DH competition in malaysia mersing,
frame size is M size
Parts :
FOX 36 grip 2 160mm
FOX float X2
Formula CURA 4 4 piston brake
(gonna change to deore 4 pot due to compatibility to frame and deore 4 pot is the best brake and value in my humble opinion)
Shimano m9100 rotors
MULLET setup: entity SLX 29/27.5 (from polygon T8/7) gonna try LC rim when the bills pile up
Shimano deore 1x12 CS
Shimano deore FC crank
Shimano XTR RD
Shimano pro 50mm stem
Shimano pro handle bar
Shimano pro seatpost
FOX transfer 175mm dropper (not recommend it, too long even with 180cm height)
vinyl wrap Mazda soul red but turnout it more like a charry red
I did printed out the mudguard that shared by Tjhosan to see is it fit float x2,
however it is a blind section, i guess it is ok, as i survive 2 feet drop and huge road gap without cracking the mudguard..
geometry is superb, came from polygon t8 L size 29er user, this bike felt light to control on air, fun, rock garden section became so much controllable compare to T8
to the dropper length, 175mm dropper definitely is a huge NO for m size frame, i barely use 125 of droppers travel, and i am a 180cm height person
the 130mm insert is not enough to make the dropper comfortable either climbing nor moving in the air.
gonna change to 150mm dropper, and i guess it will be perfect as it will lower down at least 25mm length at retreated position.
One of the cleanest build so far, I loved the color. I'm having size large and want to know if anyone tried oneup v2 180mm(maybe shimmed to 170)?
I'm using brandx 150mm it fits only ok a little short when full length.
Wondering if oneup 180 allow enough room or 150 is the only option.
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Your Fox X2 is probably hitting the frame here (see picture) and not getting full shock travel.
(https://i.imgur.com/AuVQDxob.png)
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If you want i can make the cutout bigger in the mudguard! Just tell me how much more clearance you need, if i can get the diameter of the float x2 and how far from the bottom eyelet that diameter is i can model it easy.
Glad someone found it useful! ;D
Thank for the offering, so far no trouble using the mudguard
Is hard to take x2 out again to check as all my screw I use locktite..
I will try to search or request for customer drawing for x2
Your Fox X2 is probably hitting the frame here (see picture) and not getting full shock travel.
(https://i.imgur.com/AuVQDxob.png)
Be careful with that X2. It doesn't fit the frame, I returned mine because it was touching the frame.
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Thank for the sharing, i do notice there will be possible to hit the frame during assembly
However when riding, it feel nothing to me, no cracking sound no sudden impact on frame when hopping and jumping
I use some rubber to cover the frame.
Plan is to have some imprint on the frame, if I find dent on x2, then I will change suspension to rockshock super deluxe
One of the cleanest build so far, I loved the color. I'm having size large and want to know if anyone tried oneup v2 180mm(maybe shimmed to 170)?
I'm using brandx 150mm it fits only ok a little short when full length.
Wondering if oneup 180 allow enough room or 150 is the only option.
Tyty, just be mind that insert length is quite short, you could always request customer drawing on wed site and use some woodstick to cut to length to check the thing.. I should done it initially
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Keep us updated on the shock :)
From the Sciu and Quest sites. They listed X2 and rockshox deluxe ultimate as shock options.
It'll be great news if it works out for you.
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I have built another LCFS 947 just for the fun of it. This one is built" on a budget" with good parts but to keep the price down, My intention is to sell the bike for the building cost because its so fun to build bikes :-)
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RAM LCFS947 - Kolfiber - Storlek Large
Dekaler Dekaltrim Akkebike
Vevlager Shimano BB-MT501 SLX
Vevparti Shimano Deore M6120 -170 mm - 32T
Bromsar Shimano BL-MT401/410
Styrstam Katana OS Stem 35
Styre Newmen Evolution 318 – 760 mm
Handtag RFR Pro HPP
Dropper Triple Eight PRO Inside 120 eller 150 mm
Sadel RFR MTB Sport D2
Ramskydd Zefal DTA
Bakdämpare Rockshox Deluxe RL 185*50 = 147 mm fjädring bak
Framgaffel Rockshox 35 Silver R, 150 mm
Framskärm Triple Eight Mudguard II
Pedaler Radon PF Radon PF
Lagerspacers RFR Spaceset
Växelwire Jagwire SportShift
Hjul Shimano WH-MT500 29" Boost 12x148mm/15x110mm
Däck Schwalbe Nobby Nic TS Addix 2.4
Slang Continental MTB29
Bakväxel Shimano Deore MD-5100
Växelreglage Shimano Deore SL-M5100
Kasett Shimano Deore CS-5100 11-51
Kedja Shimano CN-HG601 11S
Bromsskivor Shimano SM RT-30 180/203
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And one more LCFS947, this one in size M. Built for the fun of building for a friend of mine.
(https://cdn.abicart.com/shop/images/198775215-origpic-d3b557/1785/art85/h5215/IMG_4271.jpg)
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I have built another LCFS 947 just for the fun of it. This one is built" on a budget" with good parts but to keep the price down, My intention is to sell the bike for the building cost because its so fun to build bikes :-)
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RAM LCFS947 - Kolfiber - Storlek Large
Dekaler Dekaltrim Akkebike
Vevlager Shimano BB-MT501 SLX
Vevparti Shimano Deore M6120 -170 mm - 32T
Bromsar Shimano BL-MT401/410
Styrstam Katana OS Stem 35
Styre Newmen Evolution 318 – 760 mm
Handtag RFR Pro HPP
Dropper Triple Eight PRO Inside 120 eller 150 mm
Sadel RFR MTB Sport D2
Ramskydd Zefal DTA
Bakdämpare Rockshox Deluxe RL 185*50 = 147 mm fjädring bak
Framgaffel Rockshox 35 Silver R, 150 mm
Framskärm Triple Eight Mudguard II
Pedaler Radon PF Radon PF
Lagerspacers RFR Spaceset
Växelwire Jagwire SportShift
Hjul Shimano WH-MT500 29" Boost 12x148mm/15x110mm
Däck Schwalbe Nobby Nic TS Addix 2.4
Slang Continental MTB29
Bakväxel Shimano Deore MD-5100
Växelreglage Shimano Deore SL-M5100
Kasett Shimano Deore CS-5100 11-51
Kedja Shimano CN-HG601 11S
Bromsskivor Shimano SM RT-30 180/203
how much would you consider selling it for?
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its located in Göteborg - Sweden.
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Damn bro...your builds are sweet...Question?
how come you dont run chainguides on any of your builds?
im looking to do one of these as my enduro rigs,i live in the Caribbean.
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Thanks :)
I haven't had any problems with chains drooping. But I have put chain guides on some builds:
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Winters are long here in northern sweden so i did some more cad work.
This came to be because i could not use my fidlock bottle holder with my oneup pump mount. The bottle needs to be able to twist to release and would hit the pump.
My design puts the pump lower out of the way. And then i got to thinking it would be fun to "even out" the design with something on the other side of the bottle holder. So i put a little box there that fits two co2 cartridges, but it can hold other stuff aswell. It is designed to fit the downtube quite snuggly, just enough room for some padding material.
I printed it in carbon fiber reinforced nylon but could be printed in abs or some other strong filament.
If anyone is interested i can upload the files!
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...I printed it in carbon fiber reinforced nylon but could be printed in abs or some other strong filament.
If anyone is interested i can upload the files!
What printer do you use for carbon fiber reinforced nylon?
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What printer do you use for carbon fiber reinforced nylon?
I got a RatRig V-core3 with heated enclosure for printing nylon.
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Winters are long here in northern sweden so i did some more cad work.
This came to be because i could not use my fidlock bottle holder with my oneup pump mount. The bottle needs to be able to twist to release and would hit the pump.
My design puts the pump lower out of the way. And then i got to thinking it would be fun to "even out" the design with something on the other side of the bottle holder. So i put a little box there that fits two co2 cartridges, but it can hold other stuff aswell. It is designed to fit the downtube quite snuggly, just enough room for some padding material.
I printed it in carbon fiber reinforced nylon but could be printed in abs or some other strong filament.
If anyone is interested i can upload the files!
WHAT A GREAT WORK!
i am into this very much,
could you share the files? it will gonna be very helpful and make my bike more complete!
one question, Will your feet hit the pump when pedaling?
i could share one idea and improvement for our bike experience using 3D printer as well
i also did some 3D modeling to copy https://thehafclip.com/
but i use quick release buckled instead of Self-adhesive Velcro Buckle Strap that they provide
it does improve on strapping the helmet but not quite
so if there is a way to integrate the "half clip" with FIDLOCK magnet buckle, it will be perfect....
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Another LCFS947 :-)
I just finished another LCFS947. I built one for myself that I sold a year ago. I built one fpr my son who still rides it and I have built two that I have sold to my friends. But I have misset my LSCF947 so I decided to built myself a new one and now i have riden it twice and its a great bike.
I would say its a keeper, but yesterday I saw that Light Carbon is working on a new enduro frame, LCFS948...........
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Great looking bike!
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Another LCFS947 :-)
I just finished another LCFS947. I built one for myself that I sold a year ago. I built one fpr my son who still rides it and I have built two that I have sold to my friends. But I have misset my LSCF947 so I decided to built myself a new one and now i have riden it twice and its a great bike.
I would say its a keeper, but yesterday I saw that Light Carbon is working on a new enduro frame, LCFS948...........
hey where did you see news about LCFS948?
Sorry i saw your post @StefanB
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hey where did you see news about LCFS948?
Sorry i saw your post @StefanB
LCFS948 just on designing, Because we have invested too much money in the development of the new frame this year, the LCFS948 will not be completed very quickly, and sample will be tested around November.
We sent the drawings to some of our brand partners, and they put forward some modifications based on years of sales experience, so the drawings are still being modified.
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About time I'd share my 947.
Size XL
Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate shock
SRS Durolux EQ 36 160mm fork
Shimano XT shifter & SLX derailleur
ZTTO Pro Ult cassette & chain
Shimano XT brake levers
TRP Slate T4 calipers
203mm floating rotors
Zrace billet cranks
Oneup pedals
Oneup V2 180mm dropper & ZTTO lever
Oneup Carbon bar & 35mm stem
Nukeproof Horizon race grips
Nukeproof Horizon enduro saddle
Light Bicycle 35mm carbon rims w. ZTTO M1 hubs, Sapim race spokes, double square nipples
Hutchinson Griffus tyres F 2.5, R 2.4
Almost bang on 14kg
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About time I'd share my 947.
Size XL
Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate shock
SRS Durolux EQ 36 160mm fork
Shimano XT shifter & SLX derailleur
ZTTO Pro Ult cassette & chain
Shimano XT brake levers
TRP Slate T4 calipers
203mm floating rotors
Zrace billet cranks
Oneup pedals
Oneup V2 180mm dropper & ZTTO lever
Oneup Carbon bar & 35mm stem
Nukeproof Horizon race grips
Nukeproof Horizon enduro saddle
Light Bicycle 35mm carbon rims w. ZTTO M1 hubs, Sapim race spokes, polyax nipples
Hutchinson Griffus tyres F 2.5, R 2.4
Almost bang on 14kg
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(https://i.imgur.com/Eu9uNfg.jpg)
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How are you liking the durolux? i have the same fork and after a bit of messing around with it, i have found my happy place and it is really performing great.
the bike looks great!!
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How are you liking the durolux? i have the same fork and after a bit of messing around with it, i have found my happy place and it is really performing great.
the bike looks great!!
Thanks. Im happy with it and considering how cheap it was with discounts it is unmatched, but it definately took some time before I got it to shine.
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Some more highrez images of my latest, and other LCFS947 builds. Totaly 5 LCFS947 bikes built so far. My next build will most likely be the LCFS948 when its avalible.
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Damn Bro yur builds are epic,im looking at this as my Tester for Enduro for my brand...wish i couldve gotten lower profile tt on it though...but thats a whole mold change
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I just ordered a Frame in M.
Does anybody know whether a Fox Float X will fit (or does it have the same measurements as the Float X2?
Thanks!
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Should fit just fine!
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Another one in the books. After a LC 917 and 2 Carbonda Gravels, my latest build. I didnt face any major issues (some of the other builds did… :-X)
Its an M
Parts:
Fox Factory 38 170mm
Fox Float X Factory
Oneup Dropper Post 120mm
Rims Light Carbon Enduro asymetric (would not take them again, build is a nightmare)
Hubs DT Swiss 350
SRAM Transmission GX (from what i can tell absolutely great)
SRAM Code RSC
Light Carbon Bar AM 05
Lets pray all screws and bolts hold up ;D ;D
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Loving all the builds. Tried to post a pic of mine, but the system doesn’t seem to like it. Maybe I’ll try just a text post first.
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Long shot I know but JIC- I have an XL frame I'd like to trade for a M.
I rode it for one season, really liked it but ended up on an XXL Spire that fits me better at 6'4". Was really impressed with the frame though and would like to build one for my wife. I'm in north Idaho, probably best to stick to states/ Can for shipping purposes.
Frame is in great shape with no issues, major dings, etc.
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This is my build. Started with the frame from karbonbikes.com (he is a friend) and built it from there.
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Some more highrez images of my latest, and other LCFS947 builds. Totaly 5 LCFS947 bikes built so far. My next build will most likely be the LCFS948 when its avalible.
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Heye Bro...what hardware/spacers u use for Rockshox?
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Hello Team,
I would like to buy this parts for my rockshox super deluxe
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/283974812378?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=709-53476-19255-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050
Is the right parts for this shock?
thanks for your help
Good day guys this link doesnt work...can i have one for this frame...[;an on running rockshox