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Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame I hesitate to call this a 'Chiner' bike since it's a Chinese brand name bike but it's less than 1kg and very lustworthy. I wish someone would come out with an open mold version.
https://www.pandapodium.cc/product/voicevelo-g-major-disc-brake-gravel-frameset/
February 08, 2024, 10:20:44 PM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
Quote from: Donramon94 on February 25, 2024, 09:10:16 AM
Yes had a look at the Airwolf as well. However, I would prefer to have BSA bottom bracket. Do you have any experience with the Airwolf Frame? Also the Airwolf has a special head tube design I guess.
No experience personally, but its half the price of the iCan. I'm almost fully decided to purchase one end of March.

The headtube is annoying but workable.
February 25, 2024, 10:55:23 AM 		1
Re: SP-M048 hi assembled frame, I can only express the lack of professionalism of the seller and the total disinterest of Aliexpress which does not respond to the continuous emails I sent, I advise you to look for another probable and better certified brand
March 27, 2024, 06:49:54 AM 		1
Re: New G056 on it's way ! Or you could post in the 5 page thread on the first page of this sub-forum ... http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3739.0.html
March 28, 2024, 07:20:57 AM 		1
Re: Airwolf YFR068 - 2023 Gravel Frame Well my build is 90% complete. Waiting on some power meter SRAM Force cranks to finish the build. Running some loaner cranks for the time being.

Mixed feelings about this bike. The quality of the paint (see pic of example - it chipped really easily. Has happened in a few locations), issues with the headset plug (as others have noted) and misaligned brake caliper mounts were low points (normal methods for aligning brakes didn't work, needed to really play around to eliminate brake rub). Overall required excessive fiddling to get things right, in my opinion.

The bike rides well enough, but it seems noisy and the wheels I chose are probably too stiff. I can't tell if the noise is the chain/cassette combo? Open to feedback, based on my componenet selection - maybe I'm made some bad choices. Once I get final parts on it, I'll weigh it. I'm not shooting for weight weenie but I think it'll end up light as a result of all that carbon.

Here are the specs:
- SRAM Force AXS brakes and shifters
- SRAM GX AXS rear derailuer (went mullet on this build, good for where I live)
- Garabuk 10-50 cassette
- SRAM Rival cranks with 42T cassette (upgrading to SRAM Force with PM and 44T when it arrives)
- Shimano 160mm ICE-tech rotors
- SRAM GX chain (for now)
- WheelsFar Wheels. 50mm deep, 24mm internals, 30mm external width, DT350 hubs with aero Sapim spokes
- GravelKing SK 43mm tires
- 400mm handlebar and 110mm stem on 58cm frame
- Specialized Power Comp Saddle (not what's on in pic, but have since swapped it out)

Anyone else find specing and building bikes to be almost more fun than riding them?
April 17, 2024, 02:49:09 PM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
Quote from: maui400 on April 24, 2024, 02:18:55 PM
Staying with anecdotal observations. I never had issues with pressfit and if so I would have either bought a bb with a threaded inner shell - or simply glued in the shells with Loctite 683*.
* "wtf?! You would end up having worn bearings and therefore a frame to be dumped." Actually no. I just use a good quality bb with replaceable bearings.

Hmm. My experience is from BB30 but I am not alone. I have CAAD 10 and SSE2 both from 2014-15 timeframe. The CAAD came with squeaking bb when I bought it last year. Punched out the bearings and installed new (Wheels Manufacturing ABEC-5) and after a couple of months they started squeaking. I haven't changed it to thread together yet so I clean and lubricate every time squeaking returns. The SSE has Token thread together BB on it and it works fine. Its still technically press fit but I like the idea of two cups attaching to themselves than just latching onto frame.

The problem with BB30 and BB30a bb shells is there is no traditional bottom bracket as such - its just bearings pressed in and a c-ring prevents them from going all the way in. Those bearings, c-rings, and two cups/reducers to space out crankarms form a bottom bracket. If Loctite is used it will be around the bearings directly and if it bonds the bearings to frame, its frame dump the next time bearings need changing. Loctite is a big no there. Same thing with Trek's BB90.

When you say I use good quality BB with replaceable bearings, are you talking about BB386/PF30?
April 24, 2024, 02:47:34 PM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
Quote from: Asco on April 25, 2024, 03:41:34 AM
No, I don't, and I have been looking at other options. That said, I'm a bit confused about compatibility between integrated headsets.
I'm also considering a traditional handlebar and routing the cables under the stem into the headset.
Judging on the pictures I would say the headset is fairly standard. Round and for 52mm bearings. Most generic handlebars will include the necessary spacers.
April 25, 2024, 04:21:34 AM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro Well, I guess it is the line that runs through the centre of the BB and parallel to the back of the seattube. Since other measurements like seat tube angle and top tube length are also taken off this line it seems to be fair to measure setback with this line.
April 25, 2024, 09:47:37 AM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro I pulled the trigger, and bought a Chameleon one in size 56. Really excited about it. Going to build it up with 11 sp mechanical Ultegra, and hoping to fit 50/34 chainrings on there. It's going to be my do-it-all bike with a road and a gravel wheelset.
 Unfortunately, it won't show up for another 2 months  :( (EU preorder for June 30).

A few things:

1) The reason it has similar geo to the BXT and Nextie, is that all 3 are very heavily "inspired" by the Scott Addict Gravel. That's also why I'm hoping 50/34 will fit, since that fits on the Scott.

2) When it comes to the setback, what matters is that we can achieve our preferred saddle position relative to the BB. This in turn can be determined from just 2 factors: The seat tube angle and the setback relative to the line through the bottom bracket. The reason the setback looks big is that the seat tube is shifted forward relative to the BB as seen by the blue line.

i) My current bike has a STA of 73.5 instead of 73 on the Graro. That results in shifting the saddle back roughly 5mm at my saddle height, relative to my current bike.
ii) My current bike has a setback of maybe 5mm, (round seatpost centered on the BB). This means another net 15-5 mm = 10mm setback.
iii) However, the clamp that holds the saddle rails is also much smaller on the Graro, which gives a bit of leeway the other way (roughly 7mm by my estimation).


I've concluded that I can easily achieve my current saddle position, even without slamming the saddle all the way forward.

Will definitely post a lot of measurements related to tire clearance, chainring clearance etc when I receive the frame!
April 30, 2024, 02:45:15 AM 		1
Re: BSA bottom bracket backwards?
Quote from: bangacan on April 30, 2024, 04:48:17 PM
I'm wondering if there is any reason why I can't take the left bb cups and put them on the right side? Same for right side cup. If the threaded inserts are indeed on the wrong side then the threading should work. no?

Should work as long as you're using a crankset standard with identical bearing sizes left and right- it's basically like taking the bottom bracket assembly as a whole and rotating it 180 degrees. But I would sooner raise a warranty claim - if QC didn't catch such an egregious error, what else might they have missed?
April 30, 2024, 10:11:41 PM 		1