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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: BalticSea on September 18, 2023, 05:07:08 AM
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Can anyone share their experience with the wheelset in question? I figured it is better to have a separate thread rather than using general ones considering that the wheels are a somewhat common suggestion.
Also, they're on promo again
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I had already explicitly asked for this in this thread:
http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4325.0.html
Unfortunately without success...
However, I finally ordered them because of the many reviews on AliExpress and the consistently positive image of EliteWheels on the Internet.
At the last "Schools XXX - Sale" I bought the 65 for less than 500 Euros including shipping.
Since they didn't keep up with the orders, I had to extend the production time so that the order wouldn't be cancelled.
I am supposed to receive them in November.
So assume a long wait when ordering.
But since I don't need them until next spring, that was fine with me, in terms of specifications and price.
I will report back on my experience!
I hope they arrive a little earlier so I have enough time to test them, as I will then be hitting them again on 11/11, with a lower rim height, for my climbing bike.
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I had already explicitly asked for this in this thread:
http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4325.0.html
Unfortunately without success...
However, I finally ordered them because of the many reviews on AliExpress and the consistently positive image of EliteWheels on the Internet.
At the last "Schools XXX - Sale" I bought the 65 for less than 500 Euros including shipping.
Since they didn't keep up with the orders, I had to extend the production time so that the order wouldn't be cancelled.
I am supposed to receive them in November.
So assume a long wait when ordering.
But since I don't need them until next spring, that was fine with me, in terms of specifications and price.
I will report back on my experience!
I hope they arrive a little earlier so I have enough time to test them, as I will then be hitting them again on 11/11, with a lower rim height, for my climbing bike.
Interesting. Did you select DPD shipping when making the order or did you go with standard Ali shipping?
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Selleres shipping method.
the other variants would have been much more expensive.
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I had a set of these in my workshop for a while. I built a V-BR099 with these for a friend. See the dedicated thread for photos. I measured them to have a consistent inner width of 21.3-21.5. Outer width maxes out at roughly 30mm slightly below the rim edge IIRC.
I just did a ride with my friend yesterday where he rode these wheels. Nothing bad to say really. They’re stupendously light for a wheelset that deep and that cheap. I measured the spoke tension to be perfect throughout. They were absolutely true. I did specifically recommend them to him bc of the great value for money. The freehub is the loudest I ever heard. It can be quietened with a bit of grease or oil I guess.
So they’re great is all I can say. He’s only done around 200km with these. So no long term experience obviously.
And: They’re painted in matte black. Wouldn’t be my cup of tea, personally. I like my wheels to have the carbon visible.
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I got the 50mm version recently, ran about 350km on it until now. So far they are doing just fine. They came true and stayed so after some running, actually including some light gravel use with 30mm tyres.
My only issue was, they came without preinstalled tape and the tape in the box wasn't enough for both wheels. That wasn't great, but no showstopper obviously.
Delivery to Germany was fast and smooth to my door. After ordering they asked me if I wanted DPD shipping toll included, it would be 37$ additional cost. I accepted and they send a link for another ali-payment from which I had to order a quantity of 38. Seems strange, but worked.
I asked them to send the wheels without any branding and stickers and they did. I like the matte black look. The spokes don't look as good as Sapim CX-Ray though, they seem rougher.
So all in all I'm satisfied and would recommend them at this price point. I'm coming from MTB, so I cannot really compare them to other road sets, how they feel, how fast they are.
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Same here. I forgot to mention that. Tax free shipping comes on top and you need to take that into account. Rim tape was not enough for two wheels.
I’m running two wheelsets with Pillar 1420s now and another two with Sapim CX-Rays. I’ve also built custom wheels with CX-Rays, Pillar 1420s and CN Mac424 spokes, which are a CX-Ray copy as well. It might be true that Sapim uses higher grade steel. But honestly, geometrically these spokes are virtually identical and all these wheels are running fine without issues after many years.
When given the choice, I’d happily choose 1420s over CX-Rays to save some money. Cheap aluminium nipples can be more of a problem IMO. I only use Sapim Polyax nipples for aluminium. With the cheap ones, the anodising wears off when tightening them down and they corrode and seize easily over time, especially when a wheelset sees a lot of dirt and water or salty winter roads. If you do wash your bike regularly with non aggressive cleaner, it shouldn’t be an issue, though.
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These are interesting!!! I have a set of their cheapo rim brake wheels. I grabbed them because they have a 28mm outer width which is rare for rim brake wheels
So 30mm wide + light + cheap for my disc build is right up my alley. I like how they look too. I might still go with Light Bicycle WRs in the end though. They are 32mm wide and I want that width.
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I'm somewhat tempted to get these, but I had issues during the winter getting blown around with sub 1400g deep dish wheels on open flats. My current cheap carbon wheels are around 1600g and I"m running TPU tubes w/lightweight 25c tires. Other than faster acceleration and less rotational weight on the climbs, any other justification to upgrade??
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I'm somewhat tempted to get these, but I had issues during the winter getting blown around with sub 1400g deep dish wheels on open flats. My current cheap carbon wheels are around 1600g and I"m running TPU tubes w/lightweight 25c tires. Other than faster acceleration and less rotational weight on the climbs, any other justification to upgrade??
Not sure whether a difference of 150-200g is going to make a huge difference in how the wheels will feel in crosswinds TBH. I guess that's more a question of rim depth/cross section and spoke count.
Much like with superlight bikes in general, slightly lighter wheels probably won't make you decisively faster. But they feel nicer IMO.
For instance, I built a wheelset out of used superlight HED tubular rims in 30mm height. These weigh just around 300g per rim and paired with light tubs they have very little inertia. I swear they make you feel like you have superhuman power on steep climbs because they're just so easy to spin up. It's just a nice feeling. I'm basically climbing with the same speed but it just feels a lot more inspiring. Whatever that's worth.
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With the sale now and code 930 for europe. I've bought a pair of these yesterday 50mm.. curious about these wheels.
Had alot of wheels already with cheap Chosen D12 hubs but I like pillar wing spokes and ratchet system :)
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My 65 Edge arrived yesterday. ;)
I have weighed and inspected them directly.
According to my kitchen scale 1,532 grams for 65 carbon wheels. Nice!
Unfortunately, there was a fat scrape on the hub of the front wheel. The, the functionality does not affect, but is just stupid ... I have written directly to Elite and also already have feedback that they care about a solution.
Otherwise, the first impression is really good. Processing seems to be visually top.
The sound is very deep - it sounds really good.
Tomorrow will be the first test drive! :)
Depending on how the test runs tomorrow and how Elite regulates the damage, I can very well imagine also a set for my climbing bike to acquire. Of course with a lower rim height.
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is that a LCR0XD?
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No
It's a Leeze Gravel One
... But I know now, it's a Ican gra02.
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I test rode the wheelset with TPU tubes during a basic training session yesterday.
I am impressed by the first impression. They really go forward. Very Stiff. And the sound is music to my ears.
Of course I can't say anything about the long-term quality. But in terms of ride quality, they are in no way inferior to my Leeze CC50.
Subjectively I would say that they give more propulsion - but that could just be the joy of the new one or the acoustic note of how the high rims cut the wind or the air... so no meaningful rating :-D
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Since EliteWheels only wanted to reimburse me a paltry $15 for the damage, I opened a dispute and demanded $85 as settlement of the damage.
Tidy had already talked about the fact that he didn't do it and was left with the damage after the seller kept trying to put him off via chat.
Now Suki from Elitewheels has written that I can send the front wheel back for repair. But I don't want to do that because it would take months to get it back.
I suggested that elitewheels could send me a new wheel and that I would be happy to send the damaged wheel back to them at elitewheels' expense with the return label they had paid for. So that I can continue to use my bike.
Suki/Elitewheels agrees, but I should close the dispute first... that seems strange to me? I only have the loose statement in the chat, or am I seeing it wrong????
Unfortunately, I'm not deep enough into the aliexpress game.
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Suki/Elitewheels agrees, but I should close the dispute first... that seems strange to me? I only have the loose statement in the chat, or am I seeing it wrong????
Unfortunately, I'm not deep enough into the aliexpress game.
That is a known scam tactic... Once you close the dispute they will more than likely ghost you... It is recommended you do not do this...
Edit: I find it hard to believe they are serious about accepting your solution... This would cost them much more than the 85USD you suggested and they have the risk of you not returning the wheel... If I were you I would maybe look for a solution in the middle...
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hehe - and that's exactly what I wrote pro actively to elitewheels :D
That their complete solution proposal would be much more expensive than my regulation proposal, and that I don't understand that :D
A transport route alone costs more than the 15 dollars proposed in advance.
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/// after i did not agree with the proposal
"Hi Tobias
Thank you very much for your message.
About $15, this is the biggest compensation we can get for you, because our company doesn't actually make much money. The cost of carbon fiber wheels is very high, especially this kind of wheel with special specifications.
Regarding the parcel, we can use a very strong packaging, but our cost will be very high, which even affects the price of the product. Customers need to buy wheels at a higher price and pay for shipping.
Usually the transportation of printed matter is different from the transportation of wheels. The products are different, and the internal state during transportation is also different, resulting in different final results, but thank you very much for your suggestion, We remind the company to pay attention to the packaging and improve it to solve such a situation.
Considering safety and cost, Our current packaging is the most reasonable, but there is still room for improvement.Thanks for your advice.
If you can accept the wheel, in addition to the compensation of 15 US dollars, We also applied for a special gift compensation for you (for example: valve, please check picture).We still have a three-year warranty. , and we will deal with any problems for you for free. And we have many repair centers in Europe that can help customers solve problems.
We look forward to your good review, if need anything,you can contact us again at any time
looking forward your reply
best wishes
sukie
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/// After i open the dispute
hi Tobias
We have received your dispute ，
may i know if you can cancel it? If you don't agree with our solution, you can send front wheel to our repair center in Italy or Spain, and we can replace the font hub for you. We can bear the shipping cost.
all right ?
looking forward your reply
sukie"
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Hello Sukie,
This proposed solution is obejectively much better than the previous one with the 15 dollars. Thank you very much for your cooperation. It's a pity that it only came about after I had to take the official route.
However, it is not satisfactory for me personally, as it would mean that I would be without a front wheel for several weeks and my bike could therefore not be used. However, I have planned this bike for upcoming racing events and I am not prepared to have it repaired for several weeks.
My suggestion would be a new front wheel including shipping label, and I send the damaged wheel back to you as soon as I receive the new one? This way I would have no disadvantage except the time needed for the rebuild, which is annoying enough.
I also wonder what the cost advantage is? The shipping alone for a track is already more expensive than the previously offered 15 dollars. Add to that the labour costs, including labour, the new hub/material, and the return shipping.
Have a great day,
Tobi
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Dear Tobias
Thanks for your message
In fact, the first compensation plan is according to the company's regulations,
which is a normal process, because first of all, we have to consider solving the problem for customers quickly.
Maybe some customers are not satisfied, but you can tell us.
Because if the customer does not accept it, we will provide a second plan. We are not because of your dispute. All plans need to be discussed with the customer and the company before the final plan can be determined.
We can agree with your final plan, but we have some situation to let you know, because starting tomorrow, our National Day and Mid-Autumn Festival will start until October 6th next month, so if you can wait, we can produce new wheels for you, and then you can send the old wheels to our repair center. (note : if you agree ,please cancel the dispute first )
all right ??
looking forward your reply
sukie
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Hi Sukie,
It's only the front wheel.
So I can continue to use it and you send me a new front wheel with a return label for the damaged one, which I then send to you after receiving it?
If it is possible that you then also deposit this solution in the dispute and I receive an "order confirmation" so that it is legally binding, I am satisfied.
Unfortunately, I can't end the dispute this way without having something in my hand except a loose promise in the chat.
I hope you understand.
However, the simplest, cheapest and safest solution for all parties would be to simply accept my proposal for the settlement of the claim ($85)?
Thank you for your efforts,
Greetings Tobi
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I did have a warranty issue with Elite Wheels regarding a damaged front rim. I sent them pictures for verification of damage and then they sent me a replacement rim for free without having to return the damaged item. Also I feigned possible injury and the risk of death which would have been caused by negligence on their part. I think that got the ball rolling.
Afterwards it took about a month to deliver. Only problem is that I was without a front carbon rim for a month and when I did receive it, I still had to get it rebuilt. Also the purchase was through US Amazon (which Elite Wheels seem to have scaled back their operation), so I think the pressure was there to honor their warranty as well.
Anyways, it's always better to say the damage was caused by mechanical fault as opposed to cosmetic. I think based on their operation protocol, they'll be more apt to send a replacement without having to send back the damaged item in exchange.
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Wow, I must say I never had a seller communicate so clearly and detailed... Maybe they are serious about it although their solutions seems indeed to be more expensive than your proposal...
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Elitewheels has now taken my suggestion of the $85.
However, the process was strange: I was called twice by a number from England (I didn't answer) and then a manager contacted me via whatsapp to ask me to please close the dispute and he would then send me the requested money via paypal to resolve the matter.
I replied that he should transfer the money to me first so that I am sure not to be ghosted.
He agreed and explained that resolving disputes via aliexpress reflects badly on the company and that's why they try to resolve it outside.
Apparently there's then trouble from aliexpress...
The communication was very nice and courteous.
I am satisfied - he transferred the money directly and I can ultimately recommend elitewheels.
you just have to be persistent ;-) but that's not only the case with providers on aliexpress - but also in other life situations.
Of course, they first try to keep the damage as small as possible, which is not reprehensible.
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I had a similar experience and asked for 100 USD in coupon, so I bought a second pair of wheel
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I had a similar experience and asked for 100 USD in coupon, so I bought a second pair of wheel
I would be afraid to not be able to combine the voucher on 11.11. ;D
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Yeah, they told me I could not combine with back to school promotion, but I still did it xD
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My experience with the 45mm Elite Wheels Edge set after roughly 2000km:
- Great stability
- Very light
- Combined with 28mm GP5000 and Ridenow TPU tubes
- No issues with the 36T ratchet Freehub
I can really recommend the wheel set.
BR Chris
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I got interested in this wheelset brand because i just learned that they are also manufactured in Xiamen (Yuan An) and wheels/frames manufactured in Xiamen have decent quality. I am just thinking twice because the wheelset is really light and I am quite a heavy rider (175 cm 82kg). Would love to know some owners who have the same body as me on what is their experience before pulling the trigger on this one.
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I am 1.83 m and almost 90 kg.
No problem... And above all, no concerns at all. That's even at 40 mm still high profile wheels ... And these can weight well off.
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Does anyone know if the decal is on top the clear coat? I plan to strip the decal if I decided to get the EDGE.
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Does anyone know if the decal is on top the clear coat? I plan to strip the decal if I decided to get the EDGE.
If you know that already, just order without decals. They'll do it if you ask.
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Does anyone know if the decal is on top the clear coat? I plan to strip the decal if I decided to get the EDGE.
It's on top. The decals on my set of Elitewheels have scraped off a bit.
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If you know that already, just order without decals. They'll do it if you ask.
That is good to know. Thanks!
It's on top. The decals on my set of Elitewheels have scraped off a bit.
Thanks for the confirmation. At least knowing it is possible to strip is good.
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Received the wheels earlier this week, tested them. Damn I love these wheels at this pricepoint.
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This wheelset is on sale again! I should've waited for this day and bought this wheelset instead of Yishun's 206db-RSL50c which costs $634
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Forgot the 1035 coupon xD
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I wonder if Elite can build a set of wheels using the same rims and 36t ratchet system, but with carbon spokes and ceramic bearings.
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I wonder if Elite can build a set of wheels using the same rims and 36t ratchet system, but with carbon spokes and ceramic bearings.
I think that yuanan (they are elites manufacturer) or speeder can do it for You. We have been discussing custom builds in this thread https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4484.15.html
I went for steel spokes and other user ordered carbon spokes. Check the thread
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I wonder if Elite can build a set of wheels using the same rims and 36t ratchet system, but with carbon spokes and ceramic bearings.
Isn't that the Elte Drive 40D, 50D or 65D that you have tested, Patty?
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This wheelset is on sale again! I should've waited for this day and bought this wheelset instead of Yishun's 206db-RSL50c which costs $634
Where are you shipping to? The best price I’m seeing is $656.
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Isn't that the Elte Drive 40D, 50D or 65D that you have tested, Patty?
Kind of haha. I'm looking for something like 60-65mm deep, but with 23mm internal and a 36t ratchet hub rather than their 4 pawl design.
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Where are you shipping to? The best price I’m seeing is $656.
I am from The Philippines. Well China is just north of us so shipping fees are quite cheap.
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Kind of haha. I'm looking for something like 60-65mm deep, but with 23mm internal and a 36t ratchet hub rather than their 4 pawl design.
This is pretty much exactly what I’m looking for as well. Closest I could find is Farsports, which have a 58 depth, 24mm internal wheel with carbon spokes that use their in house ratchet hub (36 or 54).
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This is pretty much exactly what I’m looking for as well. Closest I could find is Farsports, which have a 58 depth, 24mm internal wheel with carbon spokes that use their in house ratchet hub (36 or 54).
I am not 100% sure, but I think their Far230 hub uses pawls? But they do offer carbon spokes with DT240 hubs, althought the wheelset costs like 1300 USD.
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I am not 100% sure, but I think their Far230 hub uses pawls? But they do offer carbon spokes with DT240 hubs, althought the wheelset costs like 1300 USD.
Their hub for carbon spokes is the RD270, which uses a ratchet similar to DT Swiss. They offer 36 and 54 tooth engagement. Currently they’re $1050 with that hub.
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Yishun sent me wheels with 23mm internals, 36t ratchet, enduro bearings, but they dont offer carbon spokes or anything 60mm deep unless 21 internal.
Magene's DB508 Ultra wheels (50 front/58 rear) with 23mm internals, carbon spokes, ceramic bearings, and ratchet hub. Probably my favorite wheels right now ($1200) but they don't have any plans to offer this setup in a 60mm+ rim.
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Their hub for carbon spokes is the RD270, which uses a ratchet similar to DT Swiss. They offer 36 and 54 tooth engagement. Currently they’re $1050 with that hub.
Yes, seems like you are right - on their aliexpress store they have option of FD230 hub, but on the web shop they have listed RD270 hub, which is ratchet.
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I snagged this wheelset for a whooping 444€ including "tax-prepaid" shipping to Germany, in the 50mm variant, 21mm internal, but I asked for no decals.
I am now debating on which tire width to get. I will get a GP5000 non TL (with 19g TPU tubes), but the question is wether to get 25mm vs 28mm.
I have always had 25mm GP5000 tires and they measure about 28mm on my current wheels with 20.5mm internal width.
Has anyone tried GP5000 in 28 mm on these rims? How is the tire-rim interface? I always hear about the comfort (which I don't need probably), but I fear that they would bulge up on the 21mm internal rims and be even wider than the rim, "ruining" the aero benefits...
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I snagged this wheelset for a whooping 444€ including "tax-prepaid" shipping to Germany, in the 50mm variant, 21mm internal, but I asked for no decals.
I am now debating on which tire width to get. I will get a GP5000 non TL (with 19g TPU tubes), but the question is wether to get 25mm vs 28mm.
I have always had 25mm GP5000 tires and they measure about 28mm on my current wheels with 20.5mm internal width.
Has anyone tried GP5000 in 28 mm on these rims? How is the tire-rim interface? I always hear about the comfort (which I don't need probably), but I fear that they would bulge up on the 21mm internal rims and be even wider than the rim, "ruining" the aero benefits...
First of all you gotta chill with this aero effect. It's so little that we can clearly call it non existing. Gp5000 will measure around 30mm on this wheelsets and be perfectly fine. Remember that larger tire gives you better traction, it's not only comfort.
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I'm considering getting either 50mm or 65mm rims.
I'm around 200lbs.
Thoughts?
It all depends on the winds where you ride. I made a compromise and ordered a staggerd setup (65 rear, 50 front) from Elite wheels.
This works for me 6'4, 180lbs but in can be a bit unnerving i gusty winds. I avoid riding in the "outlawed" aerotuck :) forearms on top of handlebars when it´s to windy.
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Does anyone have experience with the Aliexpress Elitewheels Edge Gravel? They come in either 35 or 45 depth. Both weigh almost the same. Considering the 35mm.
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Elite Edge 50. Weight without tape or valves: 1,344g.
(https://i.postimg.cc/y8bB06wR/Screenshot-2024-01-17-xx.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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If you have a chance to get a brand new roval alpinist cl ii at the price of elite edge wheelset? Will u go with alpinist or still go with elite edge?
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If you have a chance to get a brand new roval alpinist cl ii at the price of elite edge wheelset? Will u go with alpinist or still go with elite edge?
Rovals are 1375g and the Elite are 1344g. For slightly less weight you get a deeper 50mm rim with the Elite vs. the 33mm Rovals.
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Rovals are 1375g and the Elite are 1344g. For slightly less weight you get a deeper 50mm rim with the Elite vs. the 33mm Rovals.
True. Rovals hub are also dt350. I cant decide right now which one should I get.
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The Edge hubs are not authentic DT Swiss. They are replicas which use the DT star ratchet design. They are actually lighter than the 350 and weigh like the 240. I have them on my MTB Pro33 and Pro36 wheels and they are proven hubs and super easy to maintain.
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If you have a chance to get a brand new roval alpinist cl ii at the price of elite edge wheelset? Will u go with alpinist or still go with elite edge?
I'd still go with Edge. If there were widespread issues with the wheels, they'd be documented by now and any brand can have QC slip ups
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I have the Elite edge 45 wheels with 28mm GP 5000's and the interface between rim and tire is pretty good.
Below a picture how it looks on the rim and bike. Still very happy with the wheel set after 2500km.
(https://i.ibb.co/BHpsMsX/GP5000-28mm-tire-width.jpg) (https://ibb.co/twGCrC7)
And on the bike:
(https://i.ibb.co/5KgC062/Blue-racer.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Bn5vptw)
BR Chris
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And on the bike:
(https://i.ibb.co/5KgC062/Blue-racer.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Bn5vptw)
I have mixed feelings about replicas, but this really is an elegant bike / build. How much does it weigh? Trek tends to make tanks.
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I'd still go with Edge. If there were widespread issues with the wheels, they'd be documented by now and any brand can have QC slip ups
I see. Are there any known issues?
Also guys how long have you been running your elite edge?
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Well they made it to GCN, we've come full circle. 8)
I just hope Elite dont drive prices up.
They are pushing their own site which has models not available on AliX with higher prices and different specs.
The Edge wheelset are still the best with the same weight as Drive but half the price, no mention on GCN though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so9CIz3pz_4&loop=0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so9CIz3pz_4&loop=0)
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I run 30mm GP5000 S TR on my Edge wheels! I was worried getting them that I'd regret it and wish I had gotten the 28s, but I believe the newer GP 5000S are sized so that they are closer to the nominal dimension even with wider internal rims. My tires barely extend beyond the rim surface--I'm really happy with how flush they are. I would definitely not use 25s assuming they are now true to size--those would be very narrow.
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I am in the market for a budget set of carbon wheels and have narrowed it down to either these Elite Edges or a set of Superteams with a Novatec FS522SB rear hub. Does anyone have insight into how the hubs compare? I've heard the Elite hubs are obnoxiously loud
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I am in the market for a budget set of carbon wheels and have narrowed it down to either these Elite Edges or a set of Superteams with a Novatec FS522SB rear hub. Does anyone have insight into how the hubs compare? I've heard the Elite hubs are obnoxiously loud
On hub noise, there's a video on YT from that Australian guy on the spectrum who waxes his chains, and he showed you can add grease to make hubs quieter. I've done it on 4 wheelsets recently, it does indeed work, night and day difference. I'm largely incompetent on hubs, but i've never had problems with Novatec, vs everything else i've had mixed feelings with (Bitec or Bitex (?) and no name "Taiwan" stuff).
All else equal, my next wheels will have Novatec hubs just because i have never negative to say about them.
I've bought a dozen wheelsets by now.
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On hub noise, there's a video on YT from that Australian guy on the spectrum who waxes his chains,
The guy who killed his neighbour's dog and went to jail?
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The guy who killed his neighbour's dog and went to jail?
Indeed!
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On hub noise, there's a video on YT from that Australian guy on the spectrum who waxes his chains, and he showed you can add grease to make hubs quieter. I've done it on 4 wheelsets recently, it does indeed work, night and day difference. I'm largely incompetent on hubs, but i've never had problems with Novatec, vs everything else i've had mixed feelings with (Bitec or Bitex (?) and no name "Taiwan" stuff).
All else equal, my next wheels will have Novatec hubs just because i have never negative to say about them.
I've bought a dozen wheelsets by now.
This trick does indeed work with the novatec hubs with pawls, but not so much for hubs with ratchets I think. I tried it with the Goldix R180 hubs that are insanely loud and with more thicker grease, the ratchets would not engage. I then added some oil to the grease and the ratchets did work again and it was a little more quiet, but only for about 10km...
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fwiw, I have an Elite ENT pair with elite branded hubs (not sure the spec), and my previous was Superteam's with a Powerway R13. Both were loud out of the box, Elite's significantly more, but 1st maintenance adding some grease the sound lowered enough
The guy who killed his neighbour's dog and went to jail?
as soon as I got to know this history (through Jesse on the Nero Podcast) I blocked this aussie a**hole's channel. It's a shame, his videos have really good maintenance and assembly tips, especially on the 'cost-efficient' side of stuff
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How to get such a price? What I see now, they are around 700 on ali...
I snagged this wheelset for a whooping 444€ including "tax-prepaid" shipping to Germany, in the 50mm variant, 21mm internal, but I asked for no decals.
I am now debating on which tire width to get. I will get a GP5000 non TL (with 19g TPU tubes), but the question is wether to get 25mm vs 28mm.
I have always had 25mm GP5000 tires and they measure about 28mm on my current wheels with 20.5mm internal width.
Has anyone tried GP5000 in 28 mm on these rims? How is the tire-rim interface? I always hear about the comfort (which I don't need probably), but I fear that they would bulge up on the 21mm internal rims and be even wider than the rim, "ruining" the aero benefits...
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You have to wait a really good offer from elite wheels and also coupon from Aliexpress. During 11.11 there were 100 USD coupons.
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You have to wait a really good offer from elite wheels and also coupon from Aliexpress. During 11.11 there were 100 USD coupons.
Yes, thats exactly how it went. 11.11 coupons + coins + the usual tax adjustment (-19% at Checkout)
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Yes, thats exactly how it went. 11.11 coupons + coins + the usual tax adjustment (-19% at Checkout)
The anniversary sale is coming up, so it might be interesting to wait a little...
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Ordered my Edge Wheelset on 3/3 got delivered on 10/3 via DPD to UK. Thats insanely quick.
Paid 520.52 + 65 shipping USD with the AliX $50 coupon.
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What width of rim tape did you use on these wheels?
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Aliexpress is having anniversary sale.
I just placed an order for 423eur shipped :)
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I was really tempted by the Gravel version of the Edge, but ended up buying from Wing Wing. <500 eur (shipped and customs paid) for a pair of hooked 35mm depth, 30mm external, 24mm internal, dt350+pillar 1420. Couldn't resist.
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Is it easy to install the GP 5000 tubetype on them ? Which one looks better between 23 and 25 mm ?
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Aliexpress is having anniversary sale.
I just placed an order for 423eur shipped :)
Shipped free or per DPD?
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Aliexpress is having anniversary sale.
I just placed an order for 423eur shipped :)
How do you get this price, and which wheel would you choose for a roadbike (50mm would be my choice, but 60/50 rear/front seems nice as well).
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Placed an order today for a set of 65mm. Paid total 512 eur including DPD shipping (76 eur). Used coins plus 40eur off code to get to that price. Seems reasonable :D
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Used the coupon + coins. Btw, im not in EU. Maybe that is why shipping is cheaper.
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Wheels ordered from AliExpress, anyone else get a message saying production is lengthy and requesting to extend the ship date?
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Wheels ordered from AliExpress, anyone else get a message saying production is lengthy and requesting to extend the ship date?
they said to me production would be 15 days and shipping 20 days. the wheels arrived in just over a week. I guess they dont have live stock tracking so covering their backs? The anniversary sale will be busy for them
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Wheels ordered from AliExpress, anyone else get a message saying production is lengthy and requesting to extend the ship date?
Yes, I ordered on 18 but they shipped on 22. So It was very quick.
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they said to me production would be 15 days and shipping 20 days. the wheels arrived in just over a week. I guess they dont have live stock tracking so covering their backs? The anniversary sale will be busy for them
they told me the same.
But they shipped the wheels after 4 days. Hoping its all good.
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Hi. I'm about to buy a pair of these Elite Superlight whells, promo ends at 28 march on ALiexpress. 65mm deep (weight 1495gr.), ceramic bearings, tubeless, inner width 21 outer width 28, shimano 11v.)
Link - https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004767705476.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.2db023nV23nVkV&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004767705476.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.2db023nV23nVkV&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra)
1 - Can some one tell me whats the shape of these rims - U shape, V shape or mixed UV shape?
2 - They come with Pillar's Wing 20 spokes, are they aerodynamic?
3 - I'm from Portugal, what delivery options should i select to avoid VAT? I road some coments but i'm still a bit confused. I guess i shoul select "Sellers Shiping method" (more 75,98€)
This is lots of questions =) Would apreciate your coments! Thanks in advance
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Hi. I'm about to buy a pair of these Elite Superlight whells, promo ends at 28 march on ALiexpress. 65mm deep (weight 1495gr.), ceramic bearings, tubeless, inner width 21 outer width 28, shimano 11v.)
Link - https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004767705476.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.2db023nV23nVkV&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004767705476.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.2db023nV23nVkV&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra)
1 - Can some one tell me whats the shape of these rims - U shape, V shape or mixed UV shape?
2 - They come with Pillar's Wing 20 spokes, are they aerodynamic?
3 - I'm from Portugal, what delivery options should i select to avoid VAT? I road some coments but i'm still a bit confused. I guess i shoul select "Sellers Shiping method" (more 75,98€)
This is lots of questions =) Would apreciate your coments! Thanks in advance
1. They are U shape, as most modern rim profiles are.
2. Pillar wing spokes are the same as Pillar 1420 spokes and are flat bladed lightweight aero spokes. They have less tensile strength than more beefy spokes but are reliable. My friend has 1420 on a set of wheels and has no issues 80kg body weight...
3. Contact the seller first about shipping option, but yes you should select Seller's shipping method to get DPD shipping with prepaid tax.
Bonus tip: don't forget to use the discount codes to get extra discount. At best you will get 80 eur off.
I ordered the same wheels but still not shipped. I guess 65mm is not very popular and they do not have them in stock.
Happy riding!
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Thank you RoadieMKD for reply.
I've contacted Elitewheels via Aliexpress app and they said if i use "Sellers Shiping method" (pay more 75,98€) then i will not pay VAT and also the delivery is faster. Yes, i have a discount code that will save 120$ on orders over 599$, so in total i'll pay 505,3$ for this 65mm wheelset (aniversary discont sale included).
About tires.. Rear i use 28mm tire, in front i have 25mm, continental gp5000 (not tubeless, i'll use RideNow TPU superlight innertubes). This Elite Edge rim width is 28mm, can i use my 25mm tire on this rim with no problems?
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Thank you RoadieMKD for reply.
I've contacted Elitewheels via Aliexpress app and they said if i use "Sellers Shiping method" (pay more 75,98€) then i will not pay VAT and also the delivery is faster. Yes, i have a discount code that will save 120$ on orders over 599$, so in total i'll pay 505,3$ for this 65mm wheelset (aniversary discont sale included).
About tires.. Rear i use 28mm tire, in front i have 25mm, continental gp5000 (not tubeless, i'll use RideNow TPU superlight innertubes). This Elite Edge rim width is 28mm, can i use my 25mm tire on this rim with no problems?
The 25mm might be a pain to put on the rims, but it will work.
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Thank you RoadieMKD for reply.
I've contacted Elitewheels via Aliexpress app and they said if i use "Sellers Shiping method" (pay more 75,98€) then i will not pay VAT and also the delivery is faster. Yes, i have a discount code that will save 120$ on orders over 599$, so in total i'll pay 505,3$ for this 65mm wheelset (aniversary discont sale included).
About tires.. Rear i use 28mm tire, in front i have 25mm, continental gp5000 (not tubeless, i'll use RideNow TPU superlight innertubes). This Elite Edge rim width is 28mm, can i use my 25mm tire on this rim with no problems?
25mm GP5000 non TL works perfect on the edge rims. It measures 27.4mm on that rim (which would be perfered aero-wise compared to the 28mm, which might measure closer to 30 and bulge out on the rim)
mounting the GP5000 25mm is also no problem. No need for tire lever when mounting and removing (I also use TPU tubes)
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Thank you RoadieMKD for reply.
I've contacted Elitewheels via Aliexpress app and they said if i use "Sellers Shiping method" (pay more 75,98€) then i will not pay VAT and also the delivery is faster. Yes, i have a discount code that will save 120$ on orders over 599$, so in total i'll pay 505,3$ for this 65mm wheelset (aniversary discont sale included).
About tires.. Rear i use 28mm tire, in front i have 25mm, continental gp5000 (not tubeless, i'll use RideNow TPU superlight innertubes). This Elite Edge rim width is 28mm, can i use my 25mm tire on this rim with no problems?
It was the same for me. I am from Europe and the shipping is with DPD.
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25mm GP5000 non TL works perfect on the edge rims. It measures 27.4mm on that rim (which would be perfered aero-wise compared to the 28mm, which might measure closer to 30 and bulge out on the rim)
mounting the GP5000 25mm is also no problem. No need for tire lever when mounting and removing (I also use TPU tubes)
Joegal nice to know.
This EDGE wheels comes with YAN RD13 36T ratchet hub. I hope it is loud enougth. Can someone confirm? They come with grease?
By the way, brought this wheelset yesterday. Now waiting is a torture =D
Edit: Just talked with Sukie, for more 35 USD$ i've updated the Hub from 36T ratchet to 60T.
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Is it easy to install the GP 5000 tubetype on them ? Which one looks better between 23 and 25 mm ?
Just a note about the GP5000 tubeless, the second generation is much easier to put on than the first(was a nightmare in general).
I was even able recently to put them and inflate them using a floor pump, without a compressor.
So maybe you can scout forums to know if the new tube type generation is easier too.
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Does anyone use rim strips with this wheelset? I really struggle to choose proper width. The specs say the wheels have inner width of 21mm. I bought and installed Ritchey 17mm rim strips thinking covering just the middle bent area will be enough as one only really need to cover the holes for nipples. But now thanks to that bending the strip sticks out a little and I am affraid it's sharp edges may damage inner tubes and cause flats. Maybe I should buy wider strips but how wide exactly? I don't want them to get in the way with the tyre beads.
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Does anyone use rim strips with this wheelset? I really struggle to choose proper width. The specs say the wheels have inner width of 21mm. I bought and installed Ritchey 17mm rim strips thinking covering just the middle bent area will be enough as one only really need to cover the holes for nipples. But now thanks to that bending the strip sticks out a little and I am affraid it's sharp edges may damage inner tubes and cause flats. Maybe I should buy wider strips but how wide exactly? I don't want them to get in the way with the tyre beads.
I use the rime tape which came with the wheels. It is 25 mm wide.
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I use the rime tape which came with the wheels. It is 25 mm wide.
Thanks but that's a rim tape. I am a little worried if 25mm rim strip would perfectly fit as well. Don't really want to waste another money. Would be nice if anyone here that uses a rim strip could confirm.
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Thanks but that's a rim tape. I am a little worried if 25mm rim strip would perfectly fit as well. Don't really want to waste another money. Would be nice if anyone here that uses a rim strip could confirm.
Why not just use the rim tape if it was supplied with the wheels? If you apply it correctly you're also set for a future switch to tubeless.
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For my 21mm internal width road rims, I use 25mm rim tape. Also because I'm cheap I use 25mm rim tape on my 25mm internal width gravel rims. I just buy big rolls of Stans-style tubeless tape on Ebay. Don't use the cheap blue tape from AliEx, that junk will tear at the spoke holes even with a double wrap.
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Hi, new to this all so after reading all possible on these wheels I took a chance and orderded them, probably not for the cheapedt price but I reckon still pretty decent value.
I wasn’t sure what size to take (40 or 50) but then Suki suggested to take 45 as it would be the fastest to get.
Right now I have stock tyers on my canyon ultimate 7, the GP 5000 in 28mm. Do they fit on theses wheels or should I get a new pair?
Do I need to pay attention to anything else? Never ordered such things from Ax before in such value (cell phone does not count). Can there be something wrong when delivered? Sorry if there are dumb questions but I am new to this. Regards
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Hi, new to this all so after reading all possible on these wheels I took a chance and orderded them, probably not for the cheapedt price but I reckon still pretty decent value.
I wasn’t sure what size to take (40 or 50) but then Suki suggested to take 45 as it would be the fastest to get.
Right now I have stock tyers on my canyon ultimate 7, the GP 5000 in 28mm. Do they fit on theses wheels or should I get a new pair?
Do I need to pay attention to anything else? Never ordered such things from Ax before in such value (cell phone does not count). Can there be something wrong when delivered? Sorry if there are dumb questions but I am new to this. Regards
AFAIK elite sells 28mm wide road rims, so with your gp5000 28C you're golden. I assume you run tubes, make sure the wheels have rim tape, and that should be about it. The probability there's a problem with shipping is very low. When you install the wheels you can check they're true, or true enough. If you go downhill really, really fast it can be worth balancing them by putting small lead weights across the valve (golf lead weights on Alix).
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I have 32 on 28mm and it's ok. I prefer the confier side ahaha. Just don't put larger coz frame can't take it ahaha
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Elite supplies rim tape with the wheels. I received the 40 mm last week and did 300 km. So far so good. My max speed was 62 km/h and nothing to say, they are really nice.
My tires : P zero race clincher - 28 mm
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AFAIK elite sells 28mm wide road rims, so with your gp5000 28C you're golden. I assume you run tubes, make sure the wheels have rim tape, and that should be about it. The probability there's a problem with shipping is very low. When you install the wheels you can check they're true, or true enough. If you go downhill really, really fast it can be worth balancing them by putting small lead weights across the valve (golf lead weights on Alix).
Shouldnt spike adjustment do the trick? Never heard of putting weight tape to bike rims.
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Idk what spike adjustment mean. Depending on the wheel and tube, and assuming you go downhill very fast, balancing the wheels can be really helpful and feel much nicer.
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Do you guys think this wheelset is worth the 50% premium over the Elitewheels ENT wheelset? Considering an upgrade to the Bontrager Paradigm Comp 25 TLR wheels on my Trek Domane.
I'm specifically comparing the ~$430 Elitewheels ENT Gravel 45mm depth to the ~$640 Elitewheels Edge Gravel 45mm depth (both with Shimano, centerlock, steel bearing).
Is there any sound comparison available? I've heard some Elitewheels can be unbearably loud.
Also, any thoughts on the ceramic bearing upgrade?
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Do you guys think this wheelset is worth the 50% premium over the Elitewheels ENT wheelset? Considering an upgrade to the Bontrager Paradigm Comp 25 TLR wheels on my Trek Domane.
I'm specifically comparing the ~$430 Elitewheels ENT Gravel 45mm depth to the ~$640 Elitewheels Edge Gravel 45mm depth (both with Shimano, centerlock, steel bearing).
Is there any sound comparison available? I've heard some Elitewheels can be unbearably loud.
Also, any thoughts on the ceramic bearing upgrade?
Do you mind summing up the differences here?
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Do you guys think this wheelset is worth the 50% premium over the Elitewheels ENT wheelset? Considering an upgrade to the Bontrager Paradigm Comp 25 TLR wheels on my Trek Domane.
I'm specifically comparing the ~$430 Elitewheels ENT Gravel 45mm depth to the ~$640 Elitewheels Edge Gravel 45mm depth (both with Shimano, centerlock, steel bearing).
Is there any sound comparison available? I've heard some Elitewheels can be unbearably loud.
Also, any thoughts on the ceramic bearing upgrade?
There is a weight difference of 300gr. Comes with a better hub (ratchet) and pillar wing spokes. Also they use the lighter carbon for the rims. Both good wheels tried them both.
Both are loud but I don't mind that.
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There is a weight difference of 300gr. Comes with a better hub (ratchet) and pillar wing spokes. Also they use the lighter carbon for the rims. Both good wheels tried them both.
Both are loud but I don't mind that.
300gr is A LOT. So probably worth the difference.
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Assuming you're going to actually ride the bike, get the lighter / nicer wheels. 300g is indeed a lot. The bike will for sure feel better with the nicer wheel, not just because of the weight, but the nicer rims will probably be stiffer too, and the spokes will be better, will just be a materially better wheelset. It's not a huge difference and it's worth paying for the upgrade. Ceramic bearings for cycling are useless though.
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Thanks guys for your input. This is my primary road bike right now so I plan to ride it quite a bit. I just picked up the bike as something better suited to the hilly rough roads where I now live vs my old aluminum race bike. And since I paid 1600 for the Domane (which I think was a good price), I didn't want to turn around and be wasteful with the wheelset budget. That's why I was curious if people thought it was worth the price difference and it sounds like it is.
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My SLT wheels are very loud too. Opened the hub and greased everything but unlike some other wheels that didn't dampen the sound at all. It's comparable to Reynolds hubs on Reynolds R3 wheelset. People will hear you definitely and while working indoors it will scare the cats.
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I paid 1600 for the Domane (which I think was a good price)
Photos and specs please! I really like the Emonda, i find the frame timeless. I wish they had a 32-34C version.
The domane is the bastard version between the emonda and the madone right, with the weird thingy at the seatpost?
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Looking at the wheels on Aliexpress, does anyone know what the differences are between the types? PRO, ENT, SLT, SLR, EDGE? The Elitewheels website has a different range, so not much info there, and the Ali information is pretty much useless with the pictures contradicting the information in a lot of cases.
I'm looking for a set of very lightweight rim brake wheels, shimano compatible hub, not interested in aero. I'm a flyweight, 53kg. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
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I've tested EDGE, ENT, and DRIVE wheels. The ENT and EDGE differ mainly in weight, spokes, and rim profiles. I am not sure about the SLT and SLR. I will consider writing a comparison article about all these wheelsets. Anyway, the DRIVE wheels have carbon spokes and ceramic bearings.
Regarding ride feel, EDGE + ENT are pretty soft but comfortable. But for example, I didn't feel like riding 1350g wheels when riding EDGE. They are not as responsive as DRIVE ones, which are a bit lighter. The ENTs are much heavier and better for flats and steady efforts.
Having said that, I would recommend saving a bit more for DRIVE wheels. They are my go-to climbing wheels (45mm depth weighs under 1300g), and they are much more responsive than EDGE.
However, it also depends on your experience. For example, I would be happy if I was transitioning from ALU wheels to EDGE. But given that I've tried wheels costing over $1000 with carbon spokes, I'd opt for those instead.
Feel free to visit my website where you learn more details on these wheels.
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can not find EW Drive on AX, probably just on their web shop.
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can not find EW Drive on AX, probably just on their web shop.
DRIVE and Marvel wheels are only available on their website. This is a branding decision. They probably don't want to offer cheap wheels right next to their high-end offerings to avoid hurting their brand.
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I understand, but the price for delivery to EU is probably way to high with additional customs and taxes included.
AX gives us the chance to send the wheels past this extra costs.
I have read your review about the Edge wheels and if you could explain a little bit more about the stiffness... I am in no way a pro rider but really love it so I upgraded my wheels to these form the stock ones. I am more of an uphill rider so what the stiffness mean to rides like this.
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I understand, but the price for delivery to EU is probably way to high with additional customs and taxes included.
AX gives us the chance to send the wheels past this extra costs.
I have read your review about the Edge wheels and if you could explain a little bit more about the stiffness... I am in no way a pro rider but really love it so I upgraded my wheels to these form the stock ones. I am more of an uphill rider so what the stiffness mean to rides like this.
The problem with explaining stiffness is how abstract it is. But I will do my best. With very stiff wheels (usually those with carbon spokes), you get the feeling when pedaling that the bike is immediately moving forward and reacting quickly. On the other hand, on rough roads, most of the vibration is transmitted to the bike frame and seat, which can lead to fatigue (as your body gets constant "hits").
Softer wheels (usually steel-spoked ones) offer higher ride comfort (because the vibrations are absorbed by the wheels and are not further transferred to the frame to such a high degree). But they don't have the same feeling that you're going immediately forward. Anyway, if these are your first carbon wheels, you probably won't notice anything like that. Personally, I only started noticing these differences when I side-by-side tested multiple pairs of wheels.
Maybe one more thing: The heavier you are, the more you will probably notice the differences, especially when riding out of the saddle and sprinting. I weigh ~68 kg.
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thanks, indeed it is (will be once delivered) my first carbon wheels. I weigh a few kg more (74) and probably do not ride as aggressive as you do, so I am not really afraid any more. But I still reckon this will be a big upgrade to the cheaper stock wheels.
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I just received mine, bought the 45mm with steel bearings. I noticed the rear wheel doesn't spin as smoothly and freely I thought it should, there are some resistance when I spin the axle, and comparing to another wheel I have it's free wheeling noticeably shorter. I've asked EliteWheels about this and below is their reply:
"We have received feedback from engineers. Through the video, we think bearing is no problem. You only need to install the wheel to the frame. The wheel can work normally because of the contact area between the bearing and the axle we use for this wheel. It is relatively large, so there will be some resistance, but it can better improve the waterproof performance of the hub, and it smooth when riding."
Not sure if this is normal and if anyone else's wheel is the same? I've attached the video and hope that's clear to see.
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It is the same for me (and I have ceramic bearings).
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It is the same for me (and I have ceramic bearings).
OK good to know it's not an issue with my particular wheel, thank you. If it's not as smooth when free wheeling does it mean technically it requires more effort to ride? Or that small amount of resistance is negligible
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I've tested EDGE, ENT, and DRIVE wheels. The ENT and EDGE differ mainly in weight, spokes, and rim profiles. I am not sure about the SLT and SLR. I will consider writing a comparison article about all these wheelsets. Anyway, the DRIVE wheels have carbon spokes and ceramic bearings.
Regarding ride feel, EDGE + ENT are pretty soft but comfortable. But for example, I didn't feel like riding 1350g wheels when riding EDGE. They are not as responsive as DRIVE ones, which are a bit lighter. The ENTs are much heavier and better for flats and steady efforts.
Having said that, I would recommend saving a bit more for DRIVE wheels. They are my go-to climbing wheels (45mm depth weighs under 1300g), and they are much more responsive than EDGE.
However, it also depends on your experience. For example, I would be happy if I was transitioning from ALU wheels to EDGE. But given that I've tried wheels costing over $1000 with carbon spokes, I'd opt for those instead.
Feel free to visit my website where you learn more details on these wheels.
I'm pretty sure it is the difference between steel and carbon spokes.
Besides, not everyone needs max stiffness and without proper tests feelings are irrelevant
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OK good to know it's not an issue with my particular wheel, thank you. If it's not as smooth when free wheeling does it mean technically it requires more effort to ride? Or that small amount of resistance is negligible
I am not an expert for answering but I find that wheels are smooth when riding.
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I just ordered the EDGE 35 gravel wheels. They came in at about 1370g and measure 31mm wide. Build completion is months away but they look pretty good. Kind of regretting not getting the 45s but we'll see.
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I just ordered the EDGE 35 gravel wheels. They came in at about 1370g and measure 31mm wide. Build completion is months away but they look pretty good. Kind of regretting not getting the 45s but we'll see.
Just received the Edge 45 Gravel here, 1420g w/o rim tape. Plenty of tape for both wheels was included.
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Have a set of Edge wheels in transit - Steel Bearing, 40mm, Inner width 21mm, SHIMAN0 - reassurance from reading this forum and also tracevelo helped me overcome my initial reluctance to finally go for a big ticket AE purchase.
Can anyone help me out with a disc query or 3. I've just asked Elitewheels as well, but as it's already the weekend for them - I'm assuming it could be Monday before I hear back.
1. Do I need to source the disc lockring or will it come with the wheels? There's no mention on the AE Edge page [url]https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004767705476.html[url] so I'm guessing not.
2. If I need to get lockings with my discs what version should I get? I'm seeing that many discs come with an external included, so if that would work I won't need to buy separate internal lockings.
Bike is a Giant Revolt and the current wheels are Giant CXR-2 with Shimano SM-RT70-S rotors - those have internal lockings.
Eyeballing the CXR-2 hubs in the frame /fork there seems to be quite a bit more spare clearance on the rear than the front.
3. I'm guessing that's potentially misleading & I need to see the Edge wheels installed to work out if there's room for an external or maybe I should just buy some discs with external and try and fit them? Happy to take pics if it'd help.
Any thoughts/experiences welcome - last time I bought & fitted disc brakes was about 10-12 years ago for my mountain bike.
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Any thoughts/experiences welcome - last time I bought & fitted disc brakes was about 10-12 years ago for my mountain bike.
Wheelset won't come with disc lock rings. When you buy rotors, they might come with lock rings. It doesn't matter what type though. The external lockrings need a larger wrench (one used for BBs), the internal lockrings need the same socket as the one you use for tightening the cassette onto freehub. Personally I prefer the larger, external lockrings for their looks but functionally there is no difference. If I remember correctly there are different options for colors in external rings, haven't seen that for internal though I might be wrong.
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Wheelset won't come with disc lock rings. When you buy rotors, they might come with lock rings. It doesn't matter what type though. The external lockrings need a larger wrench (one used for BBs), the internal lockrings need the same socket as the one you use for tightening the cassette onto freehub. Personally I prefer the larger, external lockrings for their looks but functionally there is no difference. If I remember correctly there are different options for colors in external rings, haven't seen that for internal though I might be wrong.
Great thanks for confirming. I actually have both BB and cassette tools so that's good news.
Do the external lockings normally need more frame to wheel clearance? Asking as they do look bit larger on some pics I've seen
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Do the external lockings normally need more frame to wheel clearance? Asking as they do look bit larger on some pics I've seen
Yes but not an issue. The wheel end caps extend far beyond the lock ring. If your bike was supposed to have disc brakes, it will have clearance for external lock rings.
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Yes but not an issue. The wheel end caps extend far beyond the lock ring. If your bike was supposed to have disc brakes, it will have clearance for external lock rings.
ok ta - ive ordered some discs with external locking included. I'll update once I've installed and ridden with them
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I bought the ENT Edge 2.0 50mm deep shimano 12s hubs. Took about five weeks to arrive paid an extra £60 for DPD shipping. 500kms in and rides really well. I paired it with GP5000 and TPU ride now tubes. I struggled getting the tyres on, just have no upper arm strength :D
Tracking was provided but only was stuck in germany for abit and suddenly I got an email from DPD that it wuld be delivered the next day.
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Wow, those are looking nice wheels. And beautiful overall build. What's the total weight?
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I bought the ENT Edge 2.0 50mm deep shimano 12s hubs. Took about five weeks to arrive paid an extra £60 for DPD shipping. 500kms in and rides really well. I paired it with GP5000 and TPU ride now tubes. I struggled getting the tyres on, just have no upper arm strength :D
Tracking was provided but only was stuck in germany for abit and suddenly I got an email from DPD that it wuld be delivered the next day.
That is more a GP5000 thing, than the wheel. I'm not sure if I'm getting weaker over the years but those tires are just a pain to get on!
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That is more a GP5000 thing, than the wheel. I'm not sure if I'm getting weaker over the years but those tires are just a pain to get on!
I changed my 32C rear tyre the other day, gp5000, because it was dying. I hated life for way too long. And broke 4 tyre levers in the process. Good thing I very rarely puncture.
Although to be fair, maybe I'm getting old too :p
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I changed my 32C rear tyre the other day, gp5000, because it was dying. I hated life for way too long. And broke 4 tyre levers in the process. Good thing I very rarely puncture.
Although to be fair, maybe I'm getting old too :p
Right?! The last time I mounted them I had to call a friend to help weak ass me to get them on :o
After that I went away from using them..
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That is more a GP5000 thing, than the wheel. I'm not sure if I'm getting weaker over the years but those tires are just a pain to get on!
I put GP5000 TR on my Giant hookless rims - only succeeded by the standing on the tyre and levering the wheel away method for the front - but even with that I couldn't get the rear on.
Then I remembered I'd bought one of these - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006287545754.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.381.31ad1802aRxbT4 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006287545754.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.381.31ad1802aRxbT4) and tried it - was surprisingly easy in comparison to levers or standing on the tyre.
I'm going to use those hookless wheels for lower pressure off-road only and now have a set of Edge wheels in transit to me - be interesting to see if the GP5000s are any easier to put on the Edge wheels. My guess is probably not, because it's the stiffer TR version that's making it especially tough to do.
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Right?! The last time I mounted them I had to call a friend to help weak ass me to get them on :o
After that I went away from using them..
I have GP5000S and GP5000AS on Edges, no problem with mounting, it's quite easy, actually.
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I have GP5000S and GP5000AS on Edges, no problem with mounting, it's quite easy, actually.
Were they the tubeless or tubeless-ready versions?
I just want to also confirm that I've found the TR GP5000 to be quite stiff, definitely more difficult than the clincher versions.
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Were they the tubeless or tubeless-ready versions?
I just want to also confirm that I've found the TR GP5000 to be quite stiff, definitely more difficult than the clincher versions.
I have TR versions and got no problems with mounting, perhaps because I use Pedros levers. But I am able to mount 90% of tire with bare hands and not much force.
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I think some gp5000S TR tires might be smaller due to tolerances, i doubt the rims are differing in size.
There's some chance it's user error as well
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Does anyone know if when ordering EliteWheels (Like via Ali Express ) one can choose also the color?
I know already that one can ask for no decals , but what about the color?
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Does anyone know if when ordering EliteWheels (Like via Ali Express ) one can choose also the color?
I know already that one can ask for no decals , but what about the color?
I didn't ask that q, but did ask others and found them to be very responsive on AE msgs
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Those Elite Drive D65 looks stunning!
I had one problem and that was with the 6 - bolts brake disc. I thought I came then without a center lock system but it does and they added an adapter. The weight was a bit over, advertized 1488 grams and I weighted it at 1516 grams for both. Nothing major and I'm quite happy with that.
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Those Elite Drive D65 looks stunning!
I had one problem and that was with the 6 - bolts brake disc. I thought I came then without a center lock system but it does and they added an adapter. The weight was a bit over, advertized 1488 grams and I weighted it at 1516 grams for both. Nothing major and I'm quite happy with that.
They look great - esp on the bike with the white logos matching so well from wheel to frame.
Can I ask - how're the flats of the Pillar Wing spokes oriented - ie are any of them a bit rotated, so they're not parallel with the rotation of the wheels & cutting through the air as cleanly as they could?
I had a quick look at mine before putting them back in the box and I think some of them might be a little rotated. Will be able to check properly at the weekend, but I'm not sure what my expectations should be.
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They look great - esp on the bike with the white logos matching so well from wheel to frame.
Can I ask - how're the flats of the Pillar Wing spokes oriented - ie are any of them a bit rotated, so they're not parallel with the rotation of the wheels & cutting through the air as cleanly as they could?
I had a quick look at mine before putting them back in the box and I think some of them might be a little rotated. Will be able to check properly at the weekend, but I'm not sure what my expectations should be.
Those are not pillar wing spokes
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Those are not pillar wing spokes
Ah my mistake thanks - I thought Elitewheels used PW on all their metal spoked wheels and I didn't look closely enough to see those are actually carbon rather than metal spokes.
I can see they're still some type of flat / wing shape, so I'm still interested in whether any of them are rotated?
Interested because if some of mine are, I need to decide what if anything to do about it. Mine are Edge 40 with Pillar Wing.
Be interested in any experience / thoughts on my best approach?
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Any real use experience about braking quality/ power on this rim brakes wheel?
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Ah my mistake thanks - I thought Elitewheels used PW on all their metal spoked wheels and I didn't look closely enough to see those are actually carbon rather than metal spokes.
I can see they're still some type of flat / wing shape, so I'm still interested in whether any of them are rotated?
Interested because if some of mine are, I need to decide what if anything to do about it. Mine are Edge 40 with Pillar Wing.
Be interested in any experience / thoughts on my best approach?
Just turn them straight. but best advice would be to go to bike shop/wheel builder so he can check spokes and True the wheels
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Just turn them straight. but best advice would be to go to bike shop/wheel builder so he can check spokes and True the wheels
Am I wrong to think that Elitewheels should do that before shipping them?
I still haven't checked them properly, I'll do that over weekend.
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Is there anyone who has experience with die Elitewheels wheelset Edge-Disc 2.0 in comparison to the 1.0 Version? Is the extra charge worth the money?
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Is it just mine or all edge rear wheel does not spin smooth?
When i try to spin the rear wheel when hanging on the rack it does not spin as long as my other wheels. I have an ent and an avian which spins very smoothly.
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Is it just mine or all edge rear wheel does not spin smooth?
When i try to spin the rear wheel when hanging on the rack it does not spin as long as my other wheels. I have an ent and an avian which spins very smoothly.
Don't worry about that, it's the ratchet with grease in it slowing it down when freewheeling. Could clean it and use better grease, marginal gains ;-)
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Don't worry about that, it's the ratchet with grease in it slowing it down when freewheeling. Could clean it and use better grease, marginal gains ;-)
Oh is it? I was thinking there is a significant drag. Anyway, any grease recommendations?
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Oh is it? I was thinking there is a significant drag. Anyway, any grease recommendations?
Use special grease from DT Swiss (that is what they call it) made for this application. Alternatively, any lightweight and non-tacky grease would work.