If Tavelo fails, it'll just be the brand.  They're the in-house brand of a medium sized OEM/ODM. They'd relaunch the next day under a new name.

Lol. What do you get out of this fanatical PT worship.

Nero show guys obv aren't engineers, but they are high level racers who have built a lot of bikes and follow the industry pretty closely. And as an engineer, I'm tired of how guys like PT and Hambini leverage the profession for worship and antagonism. If you have to preface all your insight and opinions with "im an engineer" it just reeks of insecurity and authority fallacies. PT spends about as much time pumping himself up/putting others down as he does providing actual info.

Just bizarre ...

I don't have the M05 frame, but as far as I remember some builds the biggest was 38T with boost chainline (52mm).
Maybe someone who ride it can tell. The Airwolf YFM-026 is hard to beat with 42-44T, but the HA is 69.5

Yeah I've looked at it.  Ideally HTA would be a bit slacker, but it's not a disaster as I'd use it as a drop bar gravel bike.  Slack STA is more of a pain ... though again that can be remedied with a Fair Bicycle adapter.  Also 10mm less BB drop than most similar frames is definitely not a positive for most use cases for this frame - bike touring excepted.

But I really wish someone would make one of the modern 67-68 HTA and 76 STA hardtails with capacity for a 44 or 46T and 100mm fork, super deep profile head tube, and IS52/IS52.  It wouldn't be particularly difficult to do, with some shaping of the DS chainstay.  There are so many scale clones or inspired frames, but none with bigger clearance.

 

Holy moly did they take his little jab poorly.   
They are mad butthurt over his little joke.

They both have absolutely no knowledge or understanding of bikes, are keenly aware of it, and not especially keen for their viewers to cotton on.  So it figures.  They both firmly fit in the hyped up product fanboi category.

I'm not really sure why so many people here are determined to attack PT and shoot the messenger, when nothing he highlighted about the shit design and build quality of the Arow is excusable or defensible.

so can anyone substantiate the 40T on 55mm with 0 offset? or is this just total BS? and probaly 36T doesn't even work?

Do you reckon Peak Torque meant this from a Peak Torque level of scrutiny? Or even from a general consumer perspective?

What I've seen it's garbage from both.  I'm not going to post his Patreon stuff here.  So if people want to see it, pay for it.  If you're considering this frame soon, I think it's worth it for you ... since I don't think his full review will be that soon.

I'd strongly recommend waiting for a knowledgeable independent review of the QX-B01 / Arow before spending as much as is being asked, at least for the Tavelo version.  There are things that are considerably less than good about it.

It would be nice if they offered a 2x version.