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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: April 10, 2020, 10:06:16 AM »
If this shares similar rear tire clearance with the standard hightower then you're out of luck for sure.
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29er / Re: Chinese SC/AM831 Group Buy
« on: April 05, 2020, 10:28:14 AM »Sounds great. How do you buy in?
At the moment, just a name, location, size, and maybe colour choice are needed. Once we run this for a while and get enough names that we figure we will have 30 once a few people back out we'll look at the next step.
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29er / Re: Chinese SC/AM831 Group Buy
« on: April 03, 2020, 02:40:13 PM »Hi, I would be interested to buy one in
Size 19inch colour would be matte black or just the raw carbon
19inch would be the L Model right?
Shipping would be to Germany
A regular santa cruz large looks like a MEDIUM here, if the chart is correct! 19 actual is more like the XL!
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29er / Re: Chinese SC/AM831 Group Buy
« on: April 02, 2020, 11:29:51 PM »
Hey Ned, would you mind adding a note above the geometry chart that says the sizes appear to be offset from the original? I'd hate for someone to only look at HTA/STA and then pick a size and be done. Wouldn't want you folks picking up the wrong size just in case.
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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: April 02, 2020, 11:26:14 PM »
Why? Just pick up a wheels mfg thread in press fit BB. They're fantastic.
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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 30, 2020, 11:05:06 AM »
Cascade links add travel and progressiveness to SC frames - they have released options for the megatower, bronson, and nomad already. You don't have to run a coil with them but lots of people do. They're currently testing a version of the link for the hightower, reported to increase travel to 157mm and it's unofficially claimed to give more coil clearance.
Personally I find the coil clearance claim dubious as there were pretty big issues on XL and L+XL CC frames. I'm not sure how the link will magically create more tunnel clearance on these frames but I'm ready to be surprised. Moreover, I'm going to have to assume the carbon dimensions on this bike will be somewhat different, even if the pivot placement/geometry is the same. So if the links are fully compatible, we might run in to issues anyway or this might have more coil clearance than the SC in general. We just don't know til we have hands on.
Personally I find the coil clearance claim dubious as there were pretty big issues on XL and L+XL CC frames. I'm not sure how the link will magically create more tunnel clearance on these frames but I'm ready to be surprised. Moreover, I'm going to have to assume the carbon dimensions on this bike will be somewhat different, even if the pivot placement/geometry is the same. So if the links are fully compatible, we might run in to issues anyway or this might have more coil clearance than the SC in general. We just don't know til we have hands on.
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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 29, 2020, 11:36:14 AM »The tri air is a solid option for the price though it's only available in 210x50 as I was looking to buy one for my Ican p9. I can recommend the sr suntour durolux fork and those do go on sale often. For the price, they're an awesome fork. The kydex is really simple to work on. Just oven the piece for a few minutes, mould it on the bb/downtube then ziptie to hold.
Sr Suntour list the Triair also in 210x55 on their official website
Maybe im looking at the wrong region but can't seem to find it. But like chetosmachine said we can remove the spacer.
Christ almighty to you Aussies get hosed on stuff if that SR suntour shock runs nearly 700 dollareydoos there.
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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 28, 2020, 06:39:50 PM »
Supposedly the cascade thing will produce 157mm with a 210x55 shock. There's a guy saying on MTBR that it'll also increase coil clearance on some frames but that seems like a load of bunk to me, however I've been very wrong before. There are photos of a prototype on the hightower thread on MTBR installed on a bike with a DHX2. If I get a chance to test parts compatibility this summer I will. If a hightower rolls through the service shop when I have my Haideli there I'll see what I can do. If that circumstance does not happen, then I won't. I don't really want to be buying titanium hardware or cascade links on the assumption that they'll work though!
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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 28, 2020, 03:56:46 PM »
I don't even know if a lot of riders could tell the difference. If I had a 140mm Bomber z2 at home and was buying this bike (with intention to run a 150mm fork), I would be hard pressed to shell out for a different fork. That said, if you don't own anything now then it's probably better to pick up a Revelation/Yari or maybe a take off Fox Performance 36 or something.
I'm personally planning on running mine at 160mm front, else it will be too close to my other bikes. If you were thinking 160mm in your head, then perhaps 140 is indeed too short! As a note about offset bushings - there's a rumor that the santa cruz flipchip will be featured on this bike as well. If so, then no need for offset bushings unless you wanna go really low/slack.
I wonder if the upcoming cascade link would fit? If so, then we almost have a chinese megatower option!
I'm personally planning on running mine at 160mm front, else it will be too close to my other bikes. If you were thinking 160mm in your head, then perhaps 140 is indeed too short! As a note about offset bushings - there's a rumor that the santa cruz flipchip will be featured on this bike as well. If so, then no need for offset bushings unless you wanna go really low/slack.
I wonder if the upcoming cascade link would fit? If so, then we almost have a chinese megatower option!
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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 27, 2020, 10:26:46 PM »
You could use a 140mm fork with no issue for sure....
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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 25, 2020, 11:31:25 PM »
IMO the yari is a great budget fork. I wouldn't worry too much about the Fork offset if its a decent price jump. I'm sure I'll keep running my factory 36 in 51 offset.
For down tube protectors there's lots of options out there... You can do custom ones or just find a brand that's pretty close. I find the Rocky Mountain ones stick pretty nice to most bikes. If not, the off the shelf "carbon protector" kits are pretty darn good these days anyway.
The problem with my last chinese bike wasn't the bearings, it was the frame hardware. It was made of butter metal. You can certainly replace all the bearings with enduro bearings and some lighter riders will almost certainly appreciate the difference long term, but finding the hardware will probably be something more of us will need to do. Time will tell.
For down tube protectors there's lots of options out there... You can do custom ones or just find a brand that's pretty close. I find the Rocky Mountain ones stick pretty nice to most bikes. If not, the off the shelf "carbon protector" kits are pretty darn good these days anyway.
The problem with my last chinese bike wasn't the bearings, it was the frame hardware. It was made of butter metal. You can certainly replace all the bearings with enduro bearings and some lighter riders will almost certainly appreciate the difference long term, but finding the hardware will probably be something more of us will need to do. Time will tell.
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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 24, 2020, 05:03:54 PM »
Re: Cane creek coils thicker than fox
It depends on the weight of the spring. The few bikes I've seen on instagram or whatever seem to be on medium frames and therefore lighter riders. AFAIK the guy running the cane creek shock was also using a progressive coil. I don't know if those are any bigger or smaller than the others.
It depends on the weight of the spring. The few bikes I've seen on instagram or whatever seem to be on medium frames and therefore lighter riders. AFAIK the guy running the cane creek shock was also using a progressive coil. I don't know if those are any bigger or smaller than the others.
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29er / Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« on: March 23, 2020, 08:25:09 PM »
If you were following that MTBR hightower threat, the CC DBinline coil does not in fact fit. The guy had the shock installed wrong, with it installed correctly he claims it rubs in all configurations.
I think lighter riders might be able to get away with coils on the hightower, heavy riders not so much. We will have to see if these things fair any different.
I think lighter riders might be able to get away with coils on the hightower, heavy riders not so much. We will have to see if these things fair any different.
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29er / Re: All Mountain 29er-New build "the Eggplant"
« on: March 17, 2020, 10:40:12 AM »
What a pretty bike! Sorry to hear about the shock problems, that might kill this build for a lot of people! I love the look of it though, throw some labels on and it could be a main brand factory anything. Some of these manufacturers have come a long way from the weird scott spark and specialized cross front triangle obvious knockoffs.
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29er / Re: Using full cable housing internally
« on: March 14, 2020, 12:03:36 AM »
I'll be honest, I know nothing about that frame but I do know quite a bit about dealing with horrible internal routing. What's the issue you're having? Most internal routing issues end up getting solved with time, effort, frustration, and those little red connector things that reverbs come with.