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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2017, 05:09:47 AM »
Thanks Rick64, glad to hear your good news, yes i spoke to Tommy. Very helpfull... they have not shipped in 10 days now... but i a getting black decals for free, so i will patiently await shipping. Bought via Alix with p/protection and no paypal fees!

Order some extra spokes for front and rear wheel, I only had one spare arrive with the wheels so had to order more separately.

Thanks, i’ll get them laced localy on DT Swiss 240s hubs with XD driver and sapim CX-rays. . Unfortunately not straight pull... i bought them used (after a year the privious owner wrecked his frame and both hoops.. insurence gave him a boost fame and rimms) for a 1/4 of new price.

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2017, 05:38:10 AM »
Thanks mtb2223, yes Kudu’s to Peter, but at nearly twice the price the 062 from Sobato or Workswell are such a good option.

Yes 218 very light, MB01 proven bombproof, 887-SL.. no reviews... M009 also proven and good. 256 had issues.. sorted just like 062, 041 out of production at moment. I saw the Leadnovo on Alix, but no reviews on forums that i have seen. I see there are a company Courage Carbon and Carbon Material Store selling MB01 on Alix for USD520 (no paint). Then there are Smile Team that sells what looks like 062, Trident Trust thay clains T1000  and very simmular to 062, but they cant tell what tyre size the frame take. BXT looks like M009.

Sobato also have an 062 with external cable routing.

Lots of options  :o

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2017, 12:20:11 PM »
Just a heads up, if you order from Peter at XM, he has great prices on CX-Ray spokes.

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2017, 02:06:58 PM »
Thanks mtb2223, yes Kudu’s to Peter, but at nearly twice the price the 062 from Sobato or Workswell are such a good option.

Yes 218 very light, MB01 proven bombproof, 887-SL.. no reviews... M009 also proven and good. 256 had issues.. sorted just like 062, 041 out of production at moment. I saw the Leadnovo on Alix, but no reviews on forums that i have seen. I see there are a company Courage Carbon and Carbon Material Store selling MB01 on Alix for USD520 (no paint). Then there are Smile Team that sells what looks like 062, Trident Trust thay clains T1000  and very simmular to 062, but they cant tell what tyre size the frame take. BXT looks like M009.

Sobato also have an 062 with external cable routing.

Lots of options  :o

just to add something else to the mix,  ;D

two frames with the same geometry of Tideace M009

Iplay IP-M901:
http://www.xmiplay.com/ProductDetails1723

Tideace  FM-M101
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-carbon-MTB-bicycle-frame-29er-27-5er-frameset-carbon-mtb-bike-frame-with-clamp-headset/32540148439.html


only the insertion points of the internal cable routing seem different.



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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2018, 05:27:06 AM »
Sorry for late reply.. been working and traveling  .. and working. Hope all had a wonderfull Christmas...May you all have a blessed year ahead.

Thanks Wal-ter for the links

I have starter buying good condition used parts for the build. I try and read as much as possible about Hardtail bikes (pro’s & cons) and issues buyers had.

For some reason i am leaning towards Peter’s MB01 frame.. maybe because some had issues with the 062 cracking at the seat stay/ seat tube interphase....i like the vibration dampers, the cross brace in the seat tube. Yes it have a 5mm longer Chainstay and 31.6mm seat tube. (I havn’t been on my exel sheet lately to look at the geometry... (TT length).

Once i have most of my parts , i’ll pull the trigger om a frame.

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2018, 09:05:23 AM »
The holidays were great and hectic. Keep us posted on your final decision.

I have a brand new Easton Haven 35 Carbon bar if you're interested. It's never been mounted and has the black decals.

https://www.eastoncycling.com/products/details/haven-35-carbon-bar

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2018, 11:26:54 PM »
Well said: great and hectic!

Ok i am OCD... all the info goes into the blender and just mulls around untill all the good stuff sinks to the bottom..lol

Thanks for the offer, i have a spare bar and stem.

What i do need are all of your expertese: i have only used Shimano brakes untill now and are looking at Hope Tech3 x2 or Race x2...as per the M01 build on the forum.
1. Do they last?
2.are the quality as good?
3.are any of the other manufacturers brake pads interchangable with Hope? Or can you only use Hope pads?

Crank/BB:
1. Have anyone used any other brand Crank ( not XTR or XX1) that are as light (+-550g or less) and as strong/ durable for simmiliar price? I see Bike components.de have a special on XX1 GXP Q168 for €217 (with this crank i can use any frame with the appropriate BB)
2. Can i go Q156 on the MB01 and 062 frames or should i stick to 168?

Happy holidays!



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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2018, 11:31:44 PM »
For some reason i am leaning towards Peter’s MB01 frame.. maybe because some had issues with the 062 cracking at the seat stay/ seat tube interphase....i like the vibration dampers, the cross brace in the seat tube. Yes it have a 5mm longer Chainstay and 31.6mm seat tube. (I havn’t been on my exel sheet lately to look at the geometry... (TT length).

I don't have the MB01 or any of the frames you're looking at but I do have Peter's RB01. It's the road bike equivalent of the MB01. I don't know how but that vibration dampener system  works.

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2018, 01:41:30 AM »
I used Hope Race x2 brakes for 3+ years on a bike, and a year on another bike.
They are still great.

And I buy my pads on AliExpress.

XT brakes are great and strong too, but with a more ON/OFF feel.

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2018, 02:00:37 AM »
Thanks for the headsup tripleDot

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2018, 02:09:14 AM »
I used Hope Race x2 brakes for 3+ years on a bike, and a year on another bike.
They are still great.

And I buy my pads on AliExpress.

XT brakes are great and strong too, but with a more ON/OFF feel.
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I agree with “on /off” ... i wiped out a couple of times with XT 785 and XTR 9020 trail brakes ... i thought i was ok, modulating progressively more .. and them wham bam on the gravel... thinking “ What the heck just hapened”, i also have issues with my 9020 left front. I think there are an air buble in there somewhere, if my bike lay on its left side the lever goes long, if it lay on the right, lever go short. I have bled and bled and just given up after 12 months of multiply bleds and setting bitepoint bla bla bla. Time for something else.
Thanks carbonazza for heads up.

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2018, 06:33:23 AM »
I think the only cranks that are going to be any lighter than the Sram carbon cranks will be the Race Face Next SL cranks. They will probably cost roughly $200 usd more than Sram cranks.

As for Q factor, I would probably stick with 168. It will be a safer choice if you ever need to use the cranks on a different frame. I’m running a Sram X0 crank from 2011 on my 2016 SC 5010 which is Boost spacing. I just removed the 3x spider and rings and installed an Absolute Black oval ring with the 3mm boost offset.

You probably mentioned it elsewhere but where are you located? I can usually find Sram carbon cranks for well under $200 on Amazon. The catch is that they come as 2x or 3x and you’ll have to buy your direct mount ring of choice.

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2018, 12:49:01 PM »
Thanks for your imput bxcc. I am in Cape Town, RSA.

I agree on the Q168 are more versatile and safe option. I pulled the trigger on a new XX1 crank GXP Q168 from Bike-components.de. On sale for €217 (thats within 60USD of used).

I also found a set of XTR M9000 brakes for same price as Hope Tech3 x2(but i will keep a keen eye for a set of these and test them when available in the used market).. weight won over modulation.

I just worry about the banyo thats crimped on the brake hose... how am i going to route the brake hose from the bottom to the headtube? 

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2018, 01:24:06 PM »
Remove the hose from the lever and leave the hose connected to the caliper. You will need a new olive and barb if the set doesn’t come with a spare. Whatever air that is introduced to the system will be close to the lever so bleeding is also simpler this way.

Also, the XTR Race brakes don’t have the servo wave like the rest of the line so they don’t suffer from the “on / off” feel like the rest. If that was your main complaint with Shimano brakes, you may be pleasantly surprised.

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Re: 29er HT Choices: CS-218, CS-887-SL, MB01 or LCM904
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2018, 03:30:14 PM »
 ;D ;D that’s fantastic news! Thanks

Tomorrow i am looking at a used 2014 Rockshox SID WC with a OneLock. Then i only need the frame!