WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)

[Nomuetze]

Expect the unexpected….lol
Ok…GeX installed…and had also kind of interesting issue.
I did install a 12sp Shimano 710 cassette…which seemed to be okish on a normal 10/11/12 speed road freehub.
No spacer…
Without chain, derailleur was physical unable to move lower than 2. sprocket…
Now…install chain.…then, check limit screw to be no factor…then go to iniatial setup.
Somehow for me the adjustment of the 1. sprocket did not work.
By accident I shifted up to 12th sprocket and started initial setup again…now the derailleur thought
my 12th would be my 1st….(there is always a pop up to confirm if you are sure….lol)
Anyhow…I was able to fine tune this „1st“ sprocket all the way down to its correct position.

So…if you still struggle…you my try this.
Shift whatever speed …. 3rd or 4th…now start initial setup…confirm this to be 1st gear and then
finetune it all the way down to its realworld position!
That worked for me…
From there all gears worked correctly!

And I can confirm the short cage rear GeX weight is 403g

[jonathanf2]

Hey what's the verdict on the rim brake version of this groupset? My buddy recently picked up his dream titanium frame w/rim brakes and I suggested he give the Wheeltop TX a try.

[biceryder]

Its good, I’m satisfied.  I would only spend 5-550.00 USD max on this groupset. 

I just recently moved my rim brake version to another frame.  Be prepared to play with it a lot to get it initially tuned.  Once it is set, it does’t change much.  The advice Nomuetez just provided is not uncommon. I encountered the same thing twice.

FD has given a lot of people problems in the rubbing/noise dept.  I finally figured out why on my particular set.  The FD does not naturally align with the chainring.  I was able to bend my FD hanger by about 2mm to get the FD aligned.  Now it shifts with zero rubbing. 

Lastly, no issues riding in the wet.  I don’t ride in the rai frequently but I get caught in storms here and there.  I have noticed that some of the smaller screws and pins on both assemblies are not very weather resistant.  I just mention because I found a few small parts that were either rusted or corroded.  My bike is stored inside and cleaned after every ride. I didn’t see anything that caused me immediate concern but makes me wonder about longevity of the group.


I have a few thousand miles on it so far.  Purchased in MAY24.  Its been a fun upgrade from mech 105.  No regrets so far.

[Icyseanfitz]

Is there any good tutorial for initial setup? I've this on the way for a new build

[biceryder]

Someone on this thread posted a good tutorial.  BLUF:

set the FD up so that you are on the big ring

move the RD to the smallest sprocket (11t)

place a chain on it.  Use the “initial calibration” function to align the RD with the 11t.  Test shift.  Repeat until you are comfortable with the shifting.

Next set the FD.  After that is set return to the RD and test shifts in all gears up and down.

I have always encountered a little bit of noise or hesitation in gears 5, 6, and 7.  Use “fine tuning” and move in 3-5 increments in either direction to get rid of the noise.


I have done this with 11spd Shimano cassette and chain.  Last week, I moved the group to another bike and set it up for 12spd with a Goldix cassette and shimano 12spd chain.  Using the same Ultegra 11spd chainrings.  Performed flawlessly after all the tuning.

[Icyseanfitz]

Someone on this thread posted a good tutorial.  BLUF:

set the FD up so that you are on the big ring

move the RD to the smallest sprocket (11t)

place a chain on it.  Use the “initial calibration” function to align the RD with the 11t.  Test shift.  Repeat until you are comfortable with the shifting.

Next set the FD.  After that is set return to the RD and test shifts in all gears up and down.

I have always encountered a little bit of noise or hesitation in gears 5, 6, and 7.  Use “fine tuning” and move in 3-5 increments in either direction to get rid of the noise.


I have done this with 11spd Shimano cassette and chain.  Last week, I moved the group to another bike and set it up for 12spd with a Goldix cassette and shimano 12spd chain.  Using the same Ultegra 11spd chainrings.  Performed flawlessly after all the tuning.

Thank you, I will use this to do my initial setup

[biceryder]

If you run into weird issues where it won’t shift the full range:

Check to ensure the FD is in the big ring.  Cross chain prevention does not allow it to go into the last two gears if the FD is in the small ring.

Refer to Nomutze’s post above.  Some times the RD needs to be manually moved out board to the smallest sprocket.  This can only be done thru fine tuning. 

Lastly, for any fine tuning adjustment to take place, you shift to the gear you are adjusting, make the adjustment, then shift up or down and back to the gear you adjusted.  For every fine tuning you must shift in order for it to take.

[mozart]

what olives pins and heads you can use for brakes? i read for bh59 but original looks like sram and magura. i find a seller which sell kit for wheeltop 25$ .

[Nomuetze]

As per their website … bh59
Now olive for bh59 and bh90 are the same…however insert are different in diameter…
I used existing ultegra hose with bh90 olive/inserts to build up the wheeltop hydraulics.

[mozart]

As per their website … bh59
Now olive for bh59 and bh90 are the same…however insert are different in diameter…
I used existing ultegra hose with bh90 olive/inserts to build up the wheeltop hydraulics.

Didn't you have any bleading?

[Nomuetze]

To be precise…
EdsTX on my gravel….full wheeltop build…only had to cut hosings…was pre-filled…no bleeding!
GeX on my Road…using ultegra calipers and hose….no bleeding!

[mozart]

To be precise…
EdsTX on my gravel….full wheeltop build…only had to cut hosings…was pre-filled…no bleeding!
GeX on my Road…using ultegra calipers and hose….no bleeding!

so you did't use bh59 to wheeltop calipers. thats the point , what olive pins we can use in wheeltop calipers or shifters

[Nomuetze]

It’s pointless…
As said…if you use wheeltop hose…use bh59 pin/olive…either end!
If you use higher standard hosing like Shimano ultegra/dura ace…use bh90 pin/olive
Olive same, pin different….
That’s it….

[dolph]

It’s pointless…
As said…if you use wheeltop hose…use bh59 pin/olive…either end!
If you use higher standard hosing like Shimano ultegra/dura ace…use bh90 pin/olive
Olive same, pin different….
That’s it….

I m using magura post mount calipers with magura hose,  on lever side i will use wheeltop olive but not sure about pin, should i use wheeltop one/ that should be inbetween sizes of bh59 and bh90? Or should i go with bh59 despite being slightly thicker.

I have read that magura pin is too ong for shimano levers and damage can happen, can it fit wheeltop levers properly?

[johnnyboy4711]

the wheeltop gang (much to my delight) are working on TT rig also.
like a rim brake 1x setup.
watch this space.