Author Topic: Carbonda FM909  (Read 121118 times)

Pedaldancer

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #240 on: January 02, 2022, 01:56:19 PM »
Still waiting for my frame, as soon as it arrives I will check if the axle fits. I bought:
https://www.sbike.pl/zacisk-dt-swiss-e-thru-axle-mtb-12x148mm-boost-tyl-o_16075.html

This axle seems to be to short. I tried a 171mm axle one hour ago and it is much to short. The hanger design allows you to see the axle and the thread..
179.. maybe 178 or 177. But I wouldn't go shorter

Seba MTB

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #241 on: January 02, 2022, 03:05:39 PM »
This axle seems to be to short. I tried a 171mm axle one hour ago and it is much to short. The hanger design allows you to see the axle and the thread..
179.. maybe 178 or 177. But I wouldn't go shorter
I found drawing of 909. it looks like the total length of the axis is 178. I just didn't find the thread info. Will 12x1.5mm be ok? .. it looks like I found the right axle.
https://www.cyklomania.pl/dt-swiss-zacisk-tyl-e-thru-axle-12-148mm-boost-alu,id11724.html


Pedaldancer

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #242 on: January 02, 2022, 03:44:19 PM »
I found drawing of 909. it looks like the total length of the axis is 178. I just didn't find the thread info. Will 12x1.5mm be ok? .. it looks like I found the right axle.
https://www.cyklomania.pl/dt-swiss-zacisk-tyl-e-thru-axle-12-148mm-boost-alu,id11724.html

The thread must be 1.0
That's the issue ..I only found long axles with 1.5 , which is why I took the Carbonda axle.

FullCarbonAlchemist

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #243 on: January 02, 2022, 04:18:26 PM »
The thread must be 1.0
That's the issue ..I only found long axles with 1.5 , which is why I took the Carbonda axle.

I’ve never heard of trouble with the OEM axles for the 1001/1002, which makes me wonder if maybe not all their frames take the same length and they accidentally sent you the wrong one?

I’m finding plenty of axles with a 12x1.0 thread pitch but I think they’re too short; so far the one I was most interested in was the DT Swiss with removable QR handle, and they only seem to be available up to 168mm with 12x1.0 thread or 177-178 with 12x1.5. Weird that I can’t seem to find the right combination of length and thread, it doesn’t seem likely that this is a completely one-off axle type…


Pedaldancer

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #245 on: January 02, 2022, 06:05:13 PM »

Pedaldancer

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #246 on: January 02, 2022, 06:09:43 PM »
I’ve never heard of trouble with the OEM axles for the 1001/1002, which makes me wonder if maybe not all their frames take the same length and they accidentally sent you the wrong one?

I’m finding plenty of axles with a 12x1.0 thread pitch but I think they’re too short; so far the one I was most interested in was the DT Swiss with removable QR handle, and they only seem to be available up to 168mm with 12x1.0 thread or 177-178 with 12x1.5. Weird that I can’t seem to find the right combination of length and thread, it doesn’t seem likely that this is a completely one-off axle type…

It's the axle dimension I was told at the beginning when I asked for that. 181mm length - it has 181mm length, so I got the 'correct' one. But yeah, maybe your assumption os correct and this is just a wrong axle.. the technical drawing is pointing to that direction. However, even if one of you ordered the 181 axle, you may just be lucky cause of tolerances..and if not you can shorten it, the thread length is sufficient for that.

I would guess that their frames are very different for axle lengths. The 696 has different axle lengths than the 505, although the pitch is the same (1.5  I think.).
If I would design a trail fully I would give it more thicker Carbon structures than the XC fully 909. And then it's just natural that lenghts differ.

For  the word standard and bicycles I can just do that:  ::)
« Last Edit: January 02, 2022, 06:50:57 PM by Pedaldancer »

dolemitesc

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #247 on: January 02, 2022, 07:55:43 PM »
Finally finished the build today.  11.27 kgs for an XL. I had the same issue with the axle.  Solved it with a thin washer under the head of the axle.  Looking forward to the shakedown ride.

FullCarbonAlchemist

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #248 on: January 02, 2022, 09:42:30 PM »
Finally finished the build today.  11.27 kgs for an XL. I had the same issue with the axle.  Solved it with a thin washer under the head of the axle.  Looking forward to the shakedown ride.

Very interesting. That makes it sound like maybe the problem here isn’t the axle, but the fact that it wasn’t shipped with the intended washer/spacer.

Carbonda seems like the kind of company that might actually add the needed part for something like this in the future if you tell them exactly what you used.

I’m curious myself just in case something like this ends up being needed for my FM1002.

d3xophen

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #249 on: January 03, 2022, 01:29:36 AM »
Can you show me handlebar photo and cockpit photos?
Today I realized that the rear wheel is shaking slightly.
I changed the rear wheel and also this wheel was shaking ( we do have some stock of stuff in the basement)
Then I tested a shorter axle, everything is fixed now. Unfortunately it’s to short to use it, but in principal it showed that the axle is the problem,

—> The original Carbondale axes is to long
 ( I removed the original text...here was something wrong, but the message stays  true.. axle work 181mm is 2mm to long)

Pedaldancer

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #250 on: January 03, 2022, 02:13:04 AM »
Finally finished the build today.  11.27 kgs for an XL. I had the same issue with the axle.  Solved it with a thin washer under the head of the axle.  Looking forward to the shakedown ride.

Good to know that I am not using weird hubs  ;).
A washer is also a solution, I didn't have any at home and wanted a solution without buying one.

I like your design! The copper elements and Kashima coating are hot!

I will add some decals, thinking about copper or gold, don't know if this will look good together with the silver SID decals.



Pedaldancer

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #251 on: January 03, 2022, 03:03:07 PM »
Can you show me handlebar photo and cockpit photos?

Is that photo showing what you wanted to see?

d3xophen

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #252 on: January 03, 2022, 09:56:04 PM »
Is that photo showing what you wanted to see?
Yes, Thanks. Look really good....

dolemitesc

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #253 on: January 04, 2022, 01:56:55 PM »
Some of the details of my build.  Shock pivot pin threads were kind of buggered up, so made a new Ti pin with some stainless bolts.  Also turned a custom 8mm to 1/2 bushing for shock mount out of TECAPEEK.  Accents in copper, plan was for "dolemite" to be in chrome, but that failed miserably so black for now.

Pedaldancer

Re: Carbonda FM909
« Reply #254 on: January 04, 2022, 02:49:23 PM »
Accents in copper, plan was for "dolemite" to be in chrome, but that failed miserably so black for now.
Is that a paint job or foiling?
The design is fancy!