Chinese cycling clothes

[johnnyboy4711]

inbike winter gear
anyone try these out?
any feedback
jackets
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006156053045.html?pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%2066%2C10%21%E2%82%AC%2030%2C41%21%21%2170.85%2132.59%21%40211b629217283119098122320e1ecd%2112000036024569889%21sh%21IE%21130344404%21X&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.new_all_items_2007506833346.1005006156053045#nav-review

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006147171361.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.5d51wOvPwOvPeN&mp=1

bibs
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007723940936.html?pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%20126%2C17%21%E2%82%AC%2035%2C32%21%21%21135.25%2137.87%21%402103849717283122334226059e511c%2112000041985621282%21sh%21IE%21130344404%21X&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.new_all_items_2007506833346.1005007723940936

ideally water resistant but cannot have everything i suppose.
thanks
J

[johnnyboy4711]

I'm very impressed by the bib shorts with pockets from Inbike:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtbxMx6

Currently $26 USD but I bought them for $20 USD a couple weeks ago

I bought these as there are not many options for budget bib shorts with pockets (I tried some from Kemaloce and they were absolutely dreadful, straight in the bin).

These Inbike ones are great - lycra is good quality, straps are decent, pockets are a good size and the pad seems impressive but have only done a 2-hour ride so far.

Also quite interestingly, the tag has a contact for Lameda cycling on it - so I can only assume that it's made by Lameda or perhaps there's some relationship between the brands? Some of the Lameda stuff on AliExpress looks great but the amount of options makes it hard to figure out which one to try.

padding way too hard! sore after an hour or two ride.
avoid!

[bremerradkurier]

Those are fleece jerseys, not jackets. i bought something similar https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003686990532.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.148.25011802Dgi6X3. It's a single layer of fleece with no technical features. No special panels on the sides or down the spine, it is like a sponge with sweat, isn't treated against the wind, so for the price it's actually pretty expensive. I'm thinking about winter layers myself atm. I'm thinking base layer full of holes (probably synthetic), layer(s) in the middle and a wind resistant fabric on top, at least on the chest. I've seen a jacket that has holes down the spine for ventilation, i like the idea. The fabric looks windproof, and it looks like it pack down small. Or a gilet that's windproof in front, and breathable on the back. Or something waterproof. Will depend on the conditions. If you dont ride in the rain, something waterproof will never really breathe, goretex is a bit of a scam: it's waterproof, but it barely breathes at all.
Then the middle layer(s) could be a lot of things, depending on conditions. Could be a jersey, a fleece jersey, a non cycling specific merino wool tee shirt, thin or thick, SS or LS.
That's my rambling / thought process. I sweat a lot so i really wouldnt want that fleece jersey on my skin, soak it up, then stop in the wind, for example. That would be miserable AF in under 1min. A fishnet base layer should wick moisture away, but also, all the air pockets should be like wearing a wetsuit in cold water: the water inside your wetsuit warms up and protects you, it's not just the neoprene. So here you'd have warm air trapped around you, but this only works if you have a wind blocker fabric on your chest, and ideally arms.
Or i wait until spring next year, historically that's what i ve done...

European military surplus for technical clothing if it's available in your size delivers great value.

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/french-undershirt-fire-retardant-moisture-wicking-surplus/13273

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/dutch-odlo-turtleneck-shirt-surplus/72471

[kbernstein]

I can vouch for the mesh base layer. Breathes really well but adds acceptable warmth. One with a summer jersey is good until 5c for me

[PLA]

European military surplus for technical clothing if it's available in your size delivers great value.

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/french-undershirt-fire-retardant-moisture-wicking-surplus/13273

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/dutch-odlo-turtleneck-shirt-surplus/72471

Yep I've done something similar with polartec powergrid and other ecwcs stuff from us military surplus stuff.

[raisinberry777]

Anyone tried out HISERWA? Preview pics seem to look pretty good.

[Crash217]

I got a jersey from XIUER Store https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1101817663    It took just over a month to arrive; didn't even seem to actually ship for 20 days then *poof* was on my doorstep the day before the automatic late delivery refund would have applied.

It is very thick and the material is only stretchy in one direction.  Also the pattern is a bit "odd" in proportions, the sleeves are very tight, but the torso is loose.

[Serge_K]

Anyone tried out HISERWA? Preview pics seem to look pretty good.

i just ordered a jacket from them from temu yesterday for 15 eur, it's 25 or so on aliX. i will update my post after i've tried it.
afaik, it's a single wind stopper layer, with holes down the spine for ventilation. not overly technical but it's got pockets at the back, and can unzip from the bottom, which should beat side vents.
because it's got pockets, i'm considering using various layers underneath, not necessarily cycling specific stuff (i have various merino wool garments), and a base layer full of holes to avoid turning into a cold sponge.

[SillyMochi]

Sometimes I feel like one can name a random brand from China and you either have already tried them before or just ordered from them 

[PLA]

If only it wasn't called PASMAAP

[kubackje]

Actually PASMAAP is trolling MAAP as far as I'm concerned, pas meaning not in french, which I thought was funny, but the issue is I received a maap branded jersey. I'm trying to get them to do custom work via AliExpress, but it's hard, it sounds like I'm talking to a lazy moron. Ideally I'll get them to lengthen the jerseys a bit and make unbranded designs, or my own designs. I have a friend with a real maap LS jersey, the pasmaap version is actually more technical in that it uses more fabrics, at the back especially, where the real one is solid, whereas the pasmaap one has small holes for extra ventilation.
I haven't found them on Alibaba.

SRAM in polish literally means "I'm taking a shit" so you know PAS is not that bad after all

[PLA]

Actually PASMAAP is trolling MAAP as far as I'm concerned, pas meaning not in french, which I thought was funny, but the issue is I received a maap branded jersey. I'm trying to get them to do custom work via AliExpress, but it's hard, it sounds like I'm talking to a lazy moron. Ideally I'll get them to lengthen the jerseys a bit and make unbranded designs, or my own designs. I have a friend with a real maap LS jersey, the pasmaap version is actually more technical in that it uses more fabrics, at the back especially, where the real one is solid, whereas the pasmaap one has small holes for extra ventilation.
I haven't found them on Alibaba.

Yeah the name is just cringy. To me it looks like they've jammed pas normal studios and maap together and it looks a bit shit. If they do it unbranded it would be way better.

But hey that's just my opinion, good to know the quality is good and I'll keep an eye out for if they do some plain unbranded stuff.

[kubackje]

aaaahhh, hadnt thought that PASMAAP could be PAS normal + MAAP. Btw, PNS / PAS still has the french "pas" meaning not.
Not unlike hipsters & punks who claimed to be individual / unique / anti system, when actually all looking like carbon copies of each other and obeying extremely codified appearance norms to the point of looking like robots, can't think of a more pathetic aethos than "pas normal", having to literally wear written on yourself that you're different, ie abnormal / outside of the statistical norm. 

Interesting feedback though that several of you guys are seeing the branding, be it MAAP or PASMAAP, as a black flag. i'll try to incorporate that into my conversation with the alix dude, maybe we can get neutral stuff.

can you guys share a couple of your ideal jersey designs, so i dont assume that everybody likes what i like?

Lol they send jerseys with mapp logo. But the quality is crap. I've ordered one and returned the next day

[SillyMochi]

Do you guys know any good jerseys with laser cut? Haven't found any of those on AE yet. Any reason?

[kubackje]

the quality is bad? mine is the best aliexpress jersey i've ordered. what was bad about yours? i ordered from "pasmaap discount store store".

I had one from PASMAAP store https://a.aliexpress.com/_EG8hvBR

The fabrics felt like a plastic bag. Would be sweaty af imo so I've returned it. Don't even come close to spexcel/ykywbike fabrics quality.

I will check the store you've mentioned