Chinese cycling clothes

[ediryppah]

Hows this even a problem? lol

You are fighting against something which is just very normal. Fabric colours appear darker if the fabrics are not dry.
If you don't want to have a visual effect visible from sweating... you need to wear only very dark colors. Black,  midnight blue.
But: if you wear very darkish stuff salt traces get visible much more pronounced. 
So.. chose what you want .. it's sports and sweating is just normal and a part of the game.

Cycling involves sweating, it's not meant to be a fashion show. Being a wet mess on the bike looking like a POS is probably my favourite state on the bike, i'd embrace it
A base layer might help though, they cost less than 5 bucks and i like them now, been wearing them for ~6 months. Meant to be warmer when it's cold and cooler when it's hot, and i feel like it's indeed doing something. Such a garment will probably spread the sweat more. White fabric will also absorb less heat from the sun, and show sweat less than colours. Black will not really show sweat, but absorbs heat from the sun, so wearing dark / black in hot summer months can be a terrible idea. Performance falls off a cliff when we overheat, on top of feeling bad.

Alright, I get it, you don't mind but I do.
I guess it's white/black or embrace it for me then.

[Da11as]

Cycling involves sweating, it's not meant to be a fashion show. Being a wet mess on the bike looking like a POS is probably my favourite state on the bike, i'd embrace it
A base layer might help though, they cost less than 5 bucks and i like them now, been wearing them for ~6 months. Meant to be warmer when it's cold and cooler when it's hot, and i feel like it's indeed doing something. Such a garment will probably spread the sweat more. White fabric will also absorb less heat from the sun, and show sweat less than colours. Black will not really show sweat, but absorbs heat from the sun, so wearing dark / black in hot summer months can be a terrible idea. Performance falls off a cliff when we overheat, on top of feeling bad.

Certain types of 'lycrish' fabrics are more prone to sweat marks than the others and base layer wont help here (I tried). I haven't figured out the cause of it yet, as the fabrics were quite different and the price range varies wildly. Specifically, I have sweat stains on some parts of my original MAAP race jerseys as well on seamless Lameda shorts. There are no such stains on other clothing.

[SillyMochi]

-Inbike long sleeve summer jersey: My tanlines have moved to my wrist. Color is darker than it seems from their pictures (white). Fit is impeccable. Keep in mind they use EU sizing, I bought M. Big fan. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008604466255.html

Man if only they would drop the cheesy logos and texts. "Fun Ride Community" - can it get any more cringe?!
Kudos to you for trying a Chinese helmet. That's one of the only things I could not get myself to (yet).

[crazyravr]

Last batch of winter stuff:
-Another very cheap rsantce thermal: 184cm 76kg recommended XL which felt too big, I bought a new one in L and it fits much better. Still love it, still crazy cheap https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006761702729.html
-Thinner base layer: Very versatile, I can see myself using it for summer too, but I've used it when I wasn't quite ready for just short sleeve jersey but too warm for windbreaker/thicker darevie base layer, around 12c. Still gives some warmth I think, worth it https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006062287648.html

First batch of summer stuff:
-Cheji bibs everyone here hyped: Great, perhaps a little better than my go-to darevies, but I expected a little more. The legs are very tight but fit is still great overall. I got size L https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008628165379.html
-Inbike long sleeve summer jersey: My tanlines have moved to my wrist. Color is darker than it seems from their pictures (white). Fit is impeccable. Keep in mind they use EU sizing, I bought M. Big fan. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008604466255.html
-West biking helmet: My point of reference is my Lazer Z1. A little warmer which was to be expected as it's got less ventilation, but it puts the lazer to shame in overall build quality (in appearance, I've obviously not crash tested it and have no intention to). Straps are great, ALL the padding is much faster to dry and much smoother, and the adjusting is in another league (perhaps says more about how shit adjusting is on lazer's proprietary dial...). As a bonus I think I look less mushroomy. I'm happy with it https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008292808534.html

Unrelated: passed a guy on a top of the line sram red SL8 wearing a darevie kit. Found it funny

how are the sleeves? I have tried a number of long sleeved jerseys from AE and NONE of them have proper length sleeves. Always too short by 5-10cm and it just looks wrong.

[kbernstein]

Man if only they would drop the cheesy logos and texts. "Fun Ride Community" - can it get any more cringe?!
Kudos to you for trying a Chinese helmet. That's one of the only things I could not get myself to (yet).

Gotta admit I haven't even taken the time to read what the jersey says yet lol. But My usual darevies also have cheesy logos but I don't mind it. I ride solo exclusively and I doubt many people have read what it says on the sleeve in a small font
I wish I could find certificates or a virginia tech review for chinese helmets, but realistically west biking is a huge brand, they must have passed some chinese certifications. And even then, helmets aren't exactly rocket science I think. It's basically just bonded styrofoam isn't it? I don't intend to crash anyway so the .1W aero reduction is more important.  Plus my old helmet was WAY due for replacement

how are the sleeves? I have tried a number of long sleeved jerseys from AE and NONE of them have proper length sleeves. Always too short by 5-10cm and it just looks wrong.

55cm above shoulder in size M. Just right IMO. It can cover my watch but doesn't go over my palms. I think I have normal length arms

[Pedaldancer]

Alright, I get it, you don't mind but I do.
I guess it's white/black or embrace it for me then.

I didn't tell you to don't mind.
I told you it's a inherent property of fabrics to appear darker when wet.
The only secure solution is dark colors.
I don't get how white is a solution..white gets transparent sometimes if you are very unlucky. 
Also the hint that salt is visible more on dark, as i felt you might also don't like this.

Basically in ballroom dancing black is THE practice clothes color. And I'd also guess this is as you sweat heavily and it's rated as ugly to have visible sweaty clothes.

[SillyMochi]

Gotta admit I haven't even taken the time to read what the jersey says yet lol. But My usual darevies also have cheesy logos but I don't mind it. I ride solo exclusively and I doubt many people have read what it says on the sleeve in a small font

You clearly haven't looked at the fonts/text at all! It is not only the small logo but THE WHOLE BIG FONT IN THE MIDDLE
I know the fancy font makes it a bit hard to read (took me a few seconds as well) but that reads "FUN RIDE COMMUNITY" as well

But yeah, I am with you. Nobody will read it while you pass them. And even in a group ride, just let em laugh. I laugh with them knowing I can buy 10 jerseys for the one they are wearing. Best feeling is once you drop them half way into the ride on your "AliExpress bike and kit". Given my fitness it doesn't happen often but it did happen once or twice. Good times

[dapatcho]

Last batch of winter stuff:
-Another very cheap rsantce thermal: 184cm 76kg recommended XL which felt too big, I bought a new one in L and it fits much better. Still love it, still crazy cheap https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006761702729.html
-Thinner base layer: Very versatile, I can see myself using it for summer too, but I've used it when I wasn't quite ready for just short sleeve jersey but too warm for windbreaker/thicker darevie base layer, around 12c. Still gives some warmth I think, worth it https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006062287648.html

First batch of summer stuff:
-Cheji bibs everyone here hyped: Great, perhaps a little better than my go-to darevies, but I expected a little more. The legs are very tight but fit is still great overall. I got size L https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008628165379.html
-Inbike long sleeve summer jersey: My tanlines have moved to my wrist. Color is darker than it seems from their pictures (white). Fit is impeccable. Keep in mind they use EU sizing, I bought M. Big fan. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008604466255.html
-West biking helmet: My point of reference is my Lazer Z1. A little warmer which was to be expected as it's got less ventilation, but it puts the lazer to shame in overall build quality (in appearance, I've obviously not crash tested it and have no intention to). Straps are great, ALL the padding is much faster to dry and much smoother, and the adjusting is in another league (perhaps says more about how shit adjusting is on lazer's proprietary dial...). As a bonus I think I look less mushroomy. I'm happy with it https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008292808534.html

Unrelated: passed a guy on a top of the line sram red SL8 wearing a darevie kit. Found it funny

How is the sizing on your Inbike LS compared to the chart they've got? I'm usually an EU Small for a slim (165cm 63kg) but their chart would put me at a medium.

[Pedaldancer]

How is the sizing on your Inbike LS compared to the chart they've got? I'm usually an EU Small for a slim (165cm 63kg) but their chart would put me at a medium.

Inbike gives fabric measurement, NOT body measurement. As the elastic and tight cycling clothes must be smaller than body measurements this it can be understood, that it might direcct you to a larger size.
THe roulette part of the game: the fabric masurement doesnt tell you whether it is very elastic and will stretch a lot.. or if it is rather rigid .. 
This is a pretty good way to mess up with sizings..

[Cnasta]

Inbike gives fabric measurement, NOT body measurement. As the elastic and tight cycling clothes must be smaller than body measurements this it can be understood, that it might direcct you to a larger size.
THe roulette part of the game: the fabric masurement doesnt tell you whether it is very elastic and will stretch a lot.. or if it is rather rigid .. 
This is a pretty good way to mess up with sizings..

Crap, didn't think about this. Just ordered few days back. Also went on reviews, so hope I got the right size by accident

[Pedaldancer]

Crap, didn't think about this. Just ordered few days back. Also went on reviews, so hope I got the right size by accident

Good luck .  To be fair: they don't tell that openly. But "front length" or "back length" is a hint, that they talk about the dimensions of the fabric.
I failed it also.. don't worry my first ordered Thermo bib was based on that women's size M. Although I was aware that it's fabric sizes, I had no idea how much smaller is okay... which was then ending in a too large size in the hip area.. helped myself with the sewing machine.
Next one I went down one size and this was much better.

[SillyMochi]

A recommendation I cannot highlight enough: always check the reviews. CTRL+F for the size you THINK you should be ordering and see if anybody mentioned their size and/or weight. Even better if they include pictures. Then do the same for a size below/above what you THINK is right for you. Then order the one that based on reviews matches your expectations best. I rarely check the size guides of them anymore. Too often they didn't make any sense at all.

[kbernstein]

A recommendation I cannot highlight enough: always check the reviews. CTRL+F for the size you THINK you should be ordering and see if anybody mentioned their size and/or weight. Even better if they include pictures. Then do the same for a size below/above what you THINK is right for you. Then order the one that based on reviews matches your expectations best. I rarely check the size guides of them anymore. Too often they didn't make any sense at all.

I did this last winter for buying 4 sets and only one was probably my size. My recommendation is to just try until you figure out your chinese size for both bibs and jersey and stick by it unless they state EU size

[kwantani]

Wait til you get a jersey that prints:

馬鹿外人

[Pedaldancer]

A recommendation I cannot highlight enough: always check the reviews. CTRL+F for the size you THINK you should be ordering and see if anybody mentioned their size and/or weight. Even better if they include pictures. Then do the same for a size below/above what you THINK is right for you. Then order the one that based on reviews matches your expectations best. I rarely check the size guides of them anymore. Too often they didn't make any sense at all.

Sure that's what I always do...

But: If it was that easy!
First of all the same weight and height can still result in different needed size of a bin or jersey as this pure information doesn't tell you if three weight is spread evenly or the person is e.g. just strong legs and chicken wings.
And then people have also a different mindset about how tight a bib or jersey should be. Taking that into account the choice of the correct size based on other people's review is not 100% precise. Sure it is a big support, but at the end it's not the 100% guarantee to be always right.