Author Topic: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame  (Read 270086 times)


1Sigma

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #571 on: September 15, 2021, 09:37:55 AM »
Slipping seatpost!! My problem for quite some time.

I've tried carbon paste, but it didn't work because the problem was that there's not enough contact area between the wedge and the seatpost.

My current solution is using a pure aluminium plate. I cut the plate so it's covering the wedge with enough margins and slip it between the wedge and the post. The plate increases contact area. And I use pure aluminium as it's pretty soft so it reduces the chance to damage the seatpost.

Interesting.  How is that working for you?

I can't say I've had any issues with slipping.  I am running quite a high post, and I am not particularly light (85kg).  I have the bolt torqued to just over 2NM
I've marked it with crayon to pick up any slippage.

However, my seatpost is painted.  Almost wondering if that thin layer of paint is enough to put the post within tolerance.  Seems like slipping occurs more often than not
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stmbike

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #572 on: September 15, 2021, 10:28:11 AM »
Are you all using integrated handlebar of velobuild?
I ordered without handlebar because I prefer to use stem+handlebar… I’m 85kg and I think is a more rigid option.
My idea is use or FSA SMR stem with ACR system or Deda Superbox stem.

https://www.bike24.es/i/mb/b3/58/d2/fsa-smr-stem-6-degrees-932944.jpg
https://hollandbikeshop.com/img/prod/deda-superbox-potencia-a-head-1-1-8-o31-7mm-90mm-alu-negro-8052783488041-11-l.jpg
« Last Edit: September 15, 2021, 10:35:46 AM by stmbike »

OlieSimpson

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #573 on: September 15, 2021, 11:40:16 AM »
Are you all using integrated handlebar of velobuild?
I ordered without handlebar because I prefer to use stem+handlebar… I’m 85kg and I think is a more rigid option.
My idea is use or FSA SMR stem with ACR system or Deda Superbox stem.

https://www.bike24.es/i/mb/b3/58/d2/fsa-smr-stem-6-degrees-932944.jpg
https://hollandbikeshop.com/img/prod/deda-superbox-potencia-a-head-1-1-8-o31-7mm-90mm-alu-negro-8052783488041-11-l.jpg

I've got the VeloBuild HB011 integrated bar however haven't built the bike up yet so can't really comment on it yet. I'm only 66kg however so hoping it should be okay.

Have you seen VeloBuild have released a separate Bar/Stem combo that works with all their frames? It was only released in the last 2 days and is on their site here: http://www.velobuild.com/products/2021-new-carbon-handlebar-with-separate-stem

Aesch

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #574 on: September 15, 2021, 11:44:24 AM »
Are you all using integrated handlebar of velobuild?
I ordered without handlebar because I prefer to use stem+handlebar… I’m 85kg and I think is a more rigid option.
My idea is use or FSA SMR stem with ACR system or Deda Superbox stem.

https://www.bike24.es/i/mb/b3/58/d2/fsa-smr-stem-6-degrees-932944.jpg
https://hollandbikeshop.com/img/prod/deda-superbox-potencia-a-head-1-1-8-o31-7mm-90mm-alu-negro-8052783488041-11-l.jpg

They offer a stem and handlebar combination since today I believe.

stmbike

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #575 on: September 15, 2021, 03:07:30 PM »
Wow!! I didn’t see!
I’ll ask Chrisabout that. Thanks!

renrew

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #576 on: September 15, 2021, 03:21:54 PM »
I had asked chris about the weight but no answer so far

stmbike

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #577 on: September 15, 2021, 03:42:02 PM »
the stem angle it appears 6 degree, but I’m not sure

curvenut

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #578 on: September 15, 2021, 10:11:59 PM »
Yo can use the Shomano SM-BB7241 bottom bracket for the R8000 in BB86

How easy is it to install a press fit BB ?

I am concernaned of the press fit BB because of the possible squaking sound,. also
I usually  unoinstalle my current threaded BB every year to clean eveything.
By installing and uninstalling a pressfit BB, I am convernaned that the fit will become loose with the time ??

renrew

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #579 on: September 16, 2021, 02:00:02 AM »
No, it stays and is also noiseless. You have to get it right. Very little fat so that it just slips in there. So very thin. The bearing is only held by the press fit. I always use Vaseline, not real fat just to squeeze in :)

renrew

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #580 on: September 16, 2021, 02:10:33 AM »
you don't need more


renrew

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #581 on: September 16, 2021, 02:15:10 AM »
Quote
By installing and uninstalling a pressfit BB, I am convernaned that the fit will become loose with the time ??

you don't do that .... fat but don't expand ... if new then

jokage

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #582 on: September 16, 2021, 09:26:21 AM »
Something like this?

Can't say about that. The one I actually use was a motor vehicle license plate.

Interesting.  How is that working for you?

I can't say I've had any issues with slipping.  I am running quite a high post, and I am not particularly light (85kg).  I have the bolt torqued to just over 2NM
I've marked it with crayon to pick up any slippage.

However, my seatpost is painted.  Almost wondering if that thin layer of paint is enough to put the post within tolerance.  Seems like slipping occurs more often than not


Is it painted down to the insert area?

At one time, I've tried wrapping the seatpost with some tapes to increase the cross-section, but it didn't work.

My current method worked for me. No more slippage and no damages to any part. Previously without the plate, the bottom edges of the wedge scratch the seatpost when the seatpost slipped.

Tcsufferclub

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #583 on: September 16, 2021, 09:34:42 AM »
Hi! I'm new here. I have ordered this frame from velobuild, and it is going to arrive any day. My question is for any of you guys who did a sram etap axs build. What bottom bracket did you use? I am reading that bb86 frames mixed with dub crankset is less than optimal do to the necessity of using thinner bearings. I'm looking at the token ninja vs the sram dub. Any negative experience with the dub cranksets in this frame? Thanks

jokage

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #584 on: September 16, 2021, 09:35:22 AM »
Have you seen VeloBuild have released a separate Bar/Stem combo that works with all their frames? It was only released in the last 2 days and is on their site here: http://www.velobuild.com/products/2021-new-carbon-handlebar-with-separate-stem

I've just checked it today and it was too late for me. I've ordered HB010 400/100, and it is already on its way to me. I want to try something like 400/120 as it turns out that frame size 52 is more appropriate for me. Size 49 fits fine, but size 52 looks better.