Author Topic: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)  (Read 1121452 times)

PLA

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #600 on: July 03, 2024, 01:04:53 PM »
the TCR is arguably a Chinese frame.

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jonathanf2

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #601 on: July 03, 2024, 01:39:10 PM »
At the end of the day, doesn't it still come down to the cyclist? I've been dropped terribly by old guys on rim brake bikes. Though I've taken out cyclist riding the latest $10k+ USD S-Works Aethos on the climb. My terrain is mostly all hills, so maybe it differs for those who benefit more from aero/stiffness riding on the flats. If I didn't live by hills, I probably wouldn't even be interested in biking!

tokkaz

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #602 on: July 04, 2024, 02:38:50 PM »
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Nice! Good to hear that LC did the right thing .  Did you have to ship back the broken frame?

They asked for multiple videos and pictures but in the end I didn't have to send it back

rooniek

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #603 on: July 06, 2024, 07:58:05 AM »
Anyone that know's the max weight of the LCR017-D?  Muchos gracias

Macedingle

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #604 on: July 07, 2024, 10:45:03 AM »
Yup, brand new frameset. And truthfully I'm now more on board with the idea that even a second-hand frame from a big western brand is still probably a better investment than a full price B/C grade product.

Winspace decided to make the Gen2 T1550 geometry more relaxed. For my size L, they shortened the reach by 5mm and increased the stack by 13mm. I suppose they did slacken the seat tube angle from 74 to 73.5 to accommodate this. Wheelbase remains the same. With that said, the geometry is not quite anything like my SL8.

Is Tavelo/Winspace grade A or B?

rasch

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #605 on: July 07, 2024, 10:54:15 AM »
Anyone that know's the max weight of the LCR017-D?  Muchos gracias

Easier to ask directly Wendy/LC if not on the website. Anyway I'd assume the max 120 at least in the lightweight version

dinorello

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #606 on: July 07, 2024, 10:03:36 PM »
Is Tavelo/Winspace grade A or B?
Any Chinese brand would be a harder sale on the used market vs a western brand.   Quality might be comparable but when you take into consideration all the other factors like resale, warranty and customer support its hard to compete against a big name western brand bought for less than MSRP.  Unless you have that hook, or have the resources it's still probably best m to buy a Chinese brand for less

Stoemper

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #607 on: July 10, 2024, 09:46:03 AM »
Shimano ultegra 8170 di2
MT900 160MM rotors
shimano ultegra r8000 pedals
lightcarbon 50MM rims without spokeholes and dtswiss 250 hubs
KMC XT12 chain for asthetic reasons (waxed)

weights 7.6KG as shown on the picture

sadle will be replaced need to order a new one to fit the round rails
« Last Edit: July 10, 2024, 09:48:17 AM by Stoemper »

rasch

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #608 on: July 10, 2024, 09:53:10 AM »
Shimano ultegra 8170 di2
MT900 160MM rotors
shimano ultegra r8000 pedals
lightcarbon 50MM rims without spokeholes and dtswiss 250 hubs
KMC XT12 chain for asthetic reasons (waxed)

weights 7.6KG as shown on the picture

sadle will be replaced need to order a new one to fit the round rails

Nice looking bike ;)

Am still waiting for a few pieces to build mine ahaha
Am assembling it with a 105 mechanical so will need patience for running the cables on the hb :)

patliean1

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #609 on: July 11, 2024, 10:28:12 AM »
Has anyone actually confirmed whether or not LC manufactures the SS Evo for Cannondale?

I was having a chat with one of my industry buddies who mentioned that since Cannondale is made in Taiwan, how could LC produce them? Which seems strange considering LC includes the SuperSix Evo in their marketing email to customers regarding the LCR017-D.

So either LightCarbon is spreading misinformation or Cannondale is using the produced in China but finished in Taiwan to be considered "Made in Taiwan." Or perhaps LC's is design is just different enough to avoid a cease and desist or copyright lawsuit?

According China Cycling Joe, Specialized frames are produced in China. Despite "Made In Taiwan" stickers on their framesets. None of this is my area of expertise so I'm curious what you guys think.

Stoemper

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #610 on: July 11, 2024, 11:06:56 AM »
Has anyone actually confirmed whether or not LC manufactures the SS Evo for Cannondale?

I was having a chat with one of my industry buddies who mentioned that since Cannondale is made in Taiwan, how could LC produce them? Which seems strange considering LC includes the SuperSix Evo in their marketing email to customers regarding the LCR017-D.

So either LightCarbon is spreading misinformation or Cannondale is using the produced in China but finished in Taiwan to be considered "Made in Taiwan." Or perhaps LC's is design is just different enough to avoid a cease and desist or copyright lawsuit?

According China Cycling Joe, Specialized frames are produced in China. Despite "Made In Taiwan" stickers on their framesets. None of this is my area of expertise so I'm curious what you guys think.




What marketing are you referring to I never saw any brand names on their website I communication with them

dinorello

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #611 on: July 11, 2024, 11:49:10 AM »
Has anyone actually confirmed whether or not LC manufactures the SS Evo for Cannondale?

I was having a chat with one of my industry buddies who mentioned that since Cannondale is made in Taiwan, how could LC produce them? Which seems strange considering LC includes the SuperSix Evo in their marketing email to customers regarding the LCR017-D.

So either LightCarbon is spreading misinformation or Cannondale is using the produced in China but finished in Taiwan to be considered "Made in Taiwan." Or perhaps LC's is design is just different enough to avoid a cease and desist or copyright lawsuit?

According China Cycling Joe, Specialized frames are produced in China. Despite "Made In Taiwan" stickers on their framesets. None of this is my area of expertise so I'm curious what you guys think.
I would think that if the lc17 was made in the same Factory as the Cannondale it would have more than just the geometry in common.

patliean1

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #612 on: July 11, 2024, 11:50:24 AM »

What marketing are you referring to I never saw any brand names on their website I communication with them

When I inquired about the frame back in March...

"LCR017-D is our latest bike frame and our frame designers also take the advantages of Cannondale SuperSix EVO. It’s all-around bike frame as well.
Currently the LCR017-D (super light version) moulds are finished and in production.
The 56cm size is out of stock now and the manufacturing lead time is around 1 month."


Not sure if this email was intended just for myself. They will probably ask me to delete this since I know they lurk these forums.

EDIT: Maybe LC just meant they took design queues from the SS-Evo rather than actually produce it.

 
« Last Edit: July 11, 2024, 12:12:56 PM by patliean1 »

Stoemper

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #613 on: July 11, 2024, 04:42:06 PM »
When I inquired about the frame back in March...

"LCR017-D is our latest bike frame and our frame designers also take the advantages of Cannondale SuperSix EVO. It’s all-around bike frame as well.
Currently the LCR017-D (super light version) moulds are finished and in production.
The 56cm size is out of stock now and the manufacturing lead time is around 1 month."


Not sure if this email was intended just for myself. They will probably ask me to delete this since I know they lurk these forums.

EDIT: Maybe LC just meant they took design queues from the SS-Evo rather than actually produce it.

Guess it was their inspiration, I would have guessed the factor ostro vam btw, but that just shows they all are “inspired” by something

zatopiek

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #614 on: July 12, 2024, 05:16:30 AM »
This looks very nice!
Which color did you use for the 'red' parts of the frame?

Ferrari Red!