Author Topic: Wheeltop EDS GeX  (Read 22689 times)

ArchM87

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #135 on: February 12, 2025, 04:24:22 AM »
I don’t understand what’s the point with wheeltop gx, it comes for 600€ in EU, I just bought a sram rival axs 1x12 for 580€, same components. Yes the GX supports more gears and larger sprockets (…and I don’t care) but rival works very well out of the box, it’s reliable, waterproof and thoroughly tested. Should not wheeltop reduce prices?

If you compare a (massiv and not everyday available) discount price for the SRAM Rival, you also have to use a discount price for the Wheeltop Groupset. I paid 490,- (including german customs) for my Wheeltop Groupset. And for me, the option to uprade it to 1x13 or even 1x14 (in the future) is a real benefit. If you dont care about it, its ok. But then you can also ask why to use a electronic Groupset, because mechanical is cheaper, and I dont care about the benefits of electronic shifting ;)

bus4@207

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #136 on: February 12, 2025, 05:22:47 AM »
My reason for buying it is that I can throw on a 111,12 or 13 speed cassette to suit whatever riding I do. I did seriously contemplate SRAM Apex 1x but for the same money I chose to go for Wheeltop.
That's of course if I can get the rd to play ball.

bus4@207

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #137 on: February 14, 2025, 06:48:57 AM »
When I try to dial in all the 12 speed sprockets....this is the best  can get it. Any alteration to the 'B' screw  or any trim to get the 10th to 11th sprocket to shift cleanly will throw out the 10th sprocket.
As can be seen this is the best I can get going from the smallest to the biggest. But coming from biggest to smallest is a disaster and any attempt to make an adjustment to get it to work results in the upshift to go out.

https://youtube.com/shorts/OJe0booG4Io?si=0jdyCijPX_kyM6xx



I have sent this on to Jane at Wheeltop to see what she says.

Tijoe

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #138 on: February 15, 2025, 12:49:39 AM »
When I try to dial in all the 12 speed sprockets....this is the best  can get it. Any alteration to the 'B' screw  or any trim to get the 10th to 11th sprocket to shift cleanly will throw out the 10th sprocket.
As can be seen this is the best I can get going from the smallest to the biggest. But coming from biggest to smallest is a disaster and any attempt to make an adjustment to get it to work results in the upshift to go out.

https://youtube.com/shorts/OJe0booG4Io?si=0jdyCijPX_kyM6xx

I have sent this on to Jane at Wheeltop to see what she says.

Unfortunately, the way you filmed your video blocks what the derailleur cage position looks like relative to the derailleur body and the "B" screw. 
Can you post a picture for us to look at of the distance/position of the top cage pulley relative to your highest gear (11 tooth or 10 Tooth cog?  I need to see how close the chain and its relative angle to the highest cog and the upper pulley.
(Part of your problem may be that you have one chain length too long such that the derailleur body is sitting too far forward and the derailleur cage is not in quite enough tension to smoothly shift up and down across the smallest 3 cogs.)

bus4@207

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #139 on: February 15, 2025, 03:27:43 AM »
Ok. I will take a link out and try it.
I have tried again just now and the best way to describe it is that the values I put in to get a clean shift are not holding.
And by that I mean when I go up the cassette I can dial it in. Coming back down a whole new set of values is needed throwing everything out! Including the position on the 1st sprocket.
I will take a link out and retry and get back.

bus4@207

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #140 on: February 15, 2025, 04:24:17 AM »
Knocked a link out and now the chain is too short PLUS it made no difference.
The rd is simply not 'storing' the positions.
EG Just  now.
Shortened the chain and pressed the 'One Click Recovery' so I am starting fresh!
Inital calibration done and sprocket 1 running clean.
Back out to gear selection and up to sprocket 2.
Get all the way to sprocket 12 and dialled in.
So from 1 to 12 is acceptable.
Go to move to sprocket 11 and it takes a
n adjustment of circa 40 'points' to get it to drop which then knocks out the movement to back to sprocket 12.
Go to move it down to sprocket 1 to start again and it now wont drop onto sprocket 1 from sprocket 2.

As I said it almost as if its not storing the positions.

I am not wasting anymore time on it.
The mech is coming off and they can either replace it or I will open a paypal dispute and order a sram Apex 1x.

Tijoe

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #141 on: February 15, 2025, 08:58:20 AM »
Thanks for sharing, and trying some other approached.   I hope they figure it out.

bus4@207

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #142 on: February 18, 2025, 06:51:49 AM »
So I escalated this to a PayPal dispute.Also mentioned it on a Facebook post.
I got an email reply about 30 mins later with what I suspect is another time buying tactic.
Told Jane that I need to either get a software update pushed to the rd or a replacement or I will be removing the rest of the components as I need the bike on the road very soon!
Let's see what happens
« Last Edit: February 18, 2025, 03:46:56 PM by bus4@207 »

jhearrtot

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #143 on: February 18, 2025, 04:03:13 PM »
hey y'all

I've got a rim brake CAAD10 on 1x setup with 42T oval chainring and 10-42T cassette
This is a Dura Ace R9100 shifters + GRX RD combo

Was wondering if the mechanical version of the GeX is the direct replacement for my current setup.

also, any link to a reputable seller in Ali?

Thanks!

trcycling

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #144 on: February 18, 2025, 06:15:51 PM »
If you're in North America, there is now a wheeltop.us. Still shipped and serviced from China but legit 'local' factory store.

You might have a problem sourcing for that config though. AFAIK, the cable brake configuration is only available in the 'road' set and its RD only support 36t max sprocket. The GeX 'gravel' setup can go to 51t (or 40 something with the short cage) but appears to only hydraulic brakes.

So the question is whether you can buy the shifter/brake unit from the road kit and use it with the gravel RD. In THEORY I see no reason why it couldn't since the gravel shifters are really road shifter anyway. But it is possible that the combo is software locked. I'd ask Wheeltop directly what parts to get. They seem reasonably responsive to sales questions.

raisinberry777

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #145 on: February 18, 2025, 07:14:24 PM »
You want GeX with the mechanical braking shifter and 73mm cage combination. Those shifters are available for GeX.

asarkany

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #146 on: February 19, 2025, 07:45:25 AM »
I don’t understand what’s the point with wheeltop gx, it comes for 600€ in EU, I just bought a sram rival axs 1x12 for 580€, same components. Yes the GX supports more gears and larger sprockets (…and I don’t care) but rival works very well out of the box, it’s reliable, waterproof and thoroughly tested. Should not wheeltop reduce prices?

Where did you buy it from for that price? I am looking for groupsets, and kinda set on the gex, and I can't seem to find a rival axs for that low anywhere, not even on ebay, etc.

federic000

Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« Reply #147 on: February 19, 2025, 02:35:03 PM »
Where did you buy it from for that price? I am looking for groupsets, and kinda set on the gex, and I can't seem to find a rival axs for that low anywhere, not even on ebay, etc.

https://www.cingolanibikeshop.com/cambio-sram-rival-etap-axs-d1-xplr-12v-gabbia-media-senza-batteria.html

But the lever bundle i took is not available anymore to be honest it could have be a one time sale