Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 8504 times)

zett

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2024, 03:42:25 AM »
I might be better off buying a used SL8 frameset, lol. Any recommendations for an SL8 compatible integrated cockpit from China? Ideally I would like a bit of flare with something like 38-39 cm in the hoods and around 40 cm in the drops and compact geometry.

BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #76 on: November 04, 2024, 09:20:57 AM »
If anyone wants this frame with s-works on for 250€ send me a message. Also full T1000, unbreakable bracket and clean headset.

In reality fucked  up frame with flaws and glued in bracket. But it rides, 250€ for decoration is a fine price .. haha

I'm sorry but I don't believe this is a different frame than the counterfeits being offered.

Have you had some news from your seller or He is still ghosting you ?

Avalius

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2024, 03:14:13 AM »
Have you had some news from your seller or He is still ghosting you ?

Got multiple phonenumbers and their address in Dongguan but I'm still being ghosted.
If anyone is in China and doing research at replica business send me a private message. Would be an awesome youtube video..  ;D (hint hint)
"You can't be sad while riding a bicycle."

Serge_K

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #78 on: November 05, 2024, 03:50:19 AM »
Got multiple phonenumbers and their address in Dongguan but I'm still being ghosted.
If anyone is in China and doing research at replica business send me a private message. Would be an awesome youtube video..  ;D (hint hint)

Even Winow is ghosting me. Drives me mad how unprofessional some of these people are. I spent 3k with the guy and he wont reply.
I just wanted to vent :)
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #79 on: November 05, 2024, 04:48:06 AM »
Got multiple phonenumbers and their address in Dongguan but I'm still being ghosted.
If anyone is in China and doing research at replica business send me a private message. Would be an awesome youtube video..  ;D (hint hint)

Did you pay by PayPal ? Even if yes, I doubt PayPal can do anything.

BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #80 on: November 05, 2024, 04:49:06 AM »
Even Winow is ghosting me. Drives me mad how unprofessional some of these people are. I spent 3k with the guy and he wont reply.
I just wanted to vent :)

Winow ? So not more professional as the others sellers.

OralMaster

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #81 on: November 05, 2024, 05:45:57 AM »
Got multiple phonenumbers and their address in Dongguan but I'm still being ghosted.
If anyone is in China and doing research at replica business send me a private message. Would be an awesome youtube video..  ;D (hint hint)

what do you mean by research?

well i do have news of at least 50 person getting caught at the factory which speshalice outsource their frame manufacturing and R&D to

yappy

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #82 on: November 05, 2024, 06:51:57 AM »
what do you mean by research?

well i do have news of at least 50 person getting caught at the factory which speshalice outsource their frame manufacturing and R&D to

whats!?

Antoine23

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #83 on: November 13, 2024, 07:55:47 AM »
I’d be very intrigued to see a blind test of Tarmac sl8 vs this X68 with the exact same components.. I doubt lot of people could feel the difference

BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #84 on: November 13, 2024, 08:40:18 AM »
I wonder if this frame comes from the same factory as the others fake SL8 which are sold on Aliexpress or OBM, Taiwan Eisen...

Just curious of the quality.

Antoine23

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #85 on: November 13, 2024, 08:51:07 AM »
I wonder if this frame comes from the same factory as the others fake SL8 which are sold on Aliexpress or OBM, Taiwan Eisen...

Just curious of the quality.

Tantan told me that they are manufacturing it themselves but I still doubt

BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #86 on: November 13, 2024, 10:24:40 AM »
Tantan told me that they are manufacturing it themselves but I still doubt

You are lucky. They told me that this information is confidential...
True or not ?

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #87 on: November 13, 2024, 01:52:38 PM »
I've been dealing with TanTan both as a paying customer and a YouTuber. My new GR201 gravel frameset is currently in paint according to TanTan.

One thing I've noticed on their Instagram is all the frames they seem to genuinely manufacture themselves have videos showing the frames being pre-production stress tested, painted in their lab, and then fully built. This is especially true for newly produced frames which they specifically want to market to OEM brands first versus direct to consumer. Basically the videos highlight their manufacturing capacity.

The X68 seemingly came out of nowhere. No pre-prod testing and no custom paint options available. Of course they don't want to fully promote this frame for obvious reasons.

TanTan lurks this forum as we know. From their perspective they probably have no incentive to disclose where the frames came from. For all we know, owners/investors of these factories probably own shares in other (read: competing) factories and therefore have the ability to trade products/blueprints etc.

BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #88 on: November 13, 2024, 11:49:48 PM »
Here is a video where we can see the inside of the frame :



What do you think ?

TidyDinosaur

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #89 on: November 14, 2024, 12:41:41 AM »
Here is a video where we can see the inside of the frame :



What do you think ?
Your link is invisible
I can't get it to show up either. Seems to be some kind of bug...
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