Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[LowPaceKingdom]

Looks nice! Could you tell the weight of your build (with and whitout wheels)? I'd like to know if I can make it 6,99 kilo with 11sp ultegra Di2 and 1230gr wheels

Also, what saddles are that? Do you know the weight of those? They look nice!

And last question: Is that color chameleon white, or pearl white?

sry mate alrdy builded the bike up   

 full build / sd2000 saddle  / without pedals / frame size 54 :                          7,175 Kg

Weight of the Saddle  SD4000  no bolts                                                             140 gr 
saddle link "https://www.seraphbikes.com/3d-printing-technology-honeycomb-design-breathable-full-carbon-fiber-road-bicyle-saddle-sd2000-sd8000-mtb-bicycle-gravel-saddle-p5826463.html"

u can definitly safe weight at

Tires:
my tires Conti ultra sport 3 ("budget training tires")  700 X 28C /                2x    295 g   
Innertube:  conti. butyl tube

Wheelset: titanium hub / Carbon spokes  /                                                         1305g
Link "https://www.seraphbikes.com/700c-carbon-wave-wheelset-50x28mm-disc-brake-gravel-carbon-spoke-1305g-ratchet-3654t-ceramic-titanium-color-hub-road-bike-wheels-p5847395.html"

colour is "Chameleon White YS9145" 

Di2 105 vs ultegra vs dura ace                                           

[Cnasta]

sry mate alrdy builded the bike up   

 full build / sd2000 saddle  / without pedals / frame size 54 :                          7,175 Kg

Weight of the Saddle  SD4000  no bolts                                                             140 gr 
saddle link "https://www.seraphbikes.com/3d-printing-technology-honeycomb-design-breathable-full-carbon-fiber-road-bicyle-saddle-sd2000-sd8000-mtb-bicycle-gravel-saddle-p5826463.html"

u can definitly safe weight at

Tires:
my tires Conti ultra sport 3 ("budget training tires")  700 X 28C /                2x    295 g   
Innertube:  conti. butyl tube

Wheelset: titanium hub / Carbon spokes  /                                                         1305g
Link "https://www.seraphbikes.com/700c-carbon-wave-wheelset-50x28mm-disc-brake-gravel-carbon-spoke-1305g-ratchet-3654t-ceramic-titanium-color-hub-road-bike-wheels-p5847395.html"

colour is "Chameleon White YS9145" 

Di2 105 vs ultegra vs dura ace                                         

Thanks! With GP5000 + TPU inner I can save a lot. Your wheelset is pretty leight, but still will save about 80gr there. Guess ultegra Di2 saves a bit as well.

You have size 54. How tall are you? In doubt between 54 and 52

[MTB-Addicted]

Can’t you file down the top side of the C ring to get it to where you want? I had to do that on my gravel bike, takes an hour work over a couple of nights for a perfect fit

You mean the compression ring ?
It is made of plastic and it is the original Specialized one.

[momento]

for the upper area it is sufficient to file it evenly and it is solved, the problem is the lower part

[MTB-Addicted]

You got this from Taiwan, so not the same frameset from TanTan? so different hardware kit?

From a seller on Aliexpress called Taiwanese, not from Taiwan (unfortunately  )

I deeply checked the picture from TanTan in Instagram and the frame is exactly the same I got.
Or TanTan is producing and selling to others or TanTan is buying from producers/sellers bu the frame is identical

[MTB-Addicted]

for the upper area it is sufficient to file it evenly and it is solved, the problem is the lower part

thanks for your suggestion.
What piece would you file ?
1. the casing of the upper bearing (thinning the carbon part into the frame)
2. the compression ring
3. the first headset spacer

Lower part should be qute easy IMHO:
I am thinking to fine the lower part of the fork tube, making it a little slimmer (0,5mm or less) so the bearing goes down and the gap should be filled.
Would you agree ?

Thanks!

[LowPaceKingdom]

You have size 54. How tall are you? In doubt between 54 and 52

                                 180 cm
stride length :             83cm
   ?                             30cm
for more details u have to pay 
stem length i ordered 100mm (  i dont even  know how to measure it)

did not test drive I sat on the bike and it felt sporty

!keep in  mind seatpost has MIN and MAX insert i recommend u have to have a look at original sl8 manual!

[momento]

2. the compression ring

file the black plastic part, with very fine sandpaper.
be careful not to remove a millimeter at once, but I recommend trying.
lay a sheet of sandpaper on a table and file the entire surface at the same time. the support of the headset cap must remain uniform

[Cnasta]

                                 180 cm
stride length :             83cm
   ?                             30cm
for more details u have to pay 
stem length i ordered 100mm (  i dont even  know how to measure it)

did not test drive I sat on the bike and it felt sporty

!keep in  mind seatpost has MIN and MAX insert i recommend u have to have a look at original sl8 manual!

Haha, that's enough details on lenght

I'm 178 by the way, so 52 could still be de more agressive/pro option

[LowPaceKingdom]

I’ve taken a few pictures of my bike as a reference. The gaps around the headset look pretty extreme in the photos (angle).

During installation, I didn’t have any issues, especially not with the compression ring (was flat). I tightened the headset bolt very lightly, around 1-2 Nm. The result is that there’s absolutely no play between the frame and fork – I’ve tested it by pulling both brakes and moving the bike back and forth.

The steering also feels smooth and easy, exactly as it should.

Everything "feels" as it should, as if the bike is functioning exactly how it was designed to.

Other forum Photos of Gap Issue i assume this are all original SL8

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=172467&start=4740

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=172467&start=4770

[Sander2177]

I’ve taken a few pictures of my bike as a reference. The gaps around the headset look pretty extreme in the photos (angle).

During installation, I didn’t have any issues, especially not with the compression ring (was flat). I tightened the headset bolt very lightly, around 1-2 Nm. The result is that there’s absolutely no play between the frame and fork – I’ve tested it by pulling both brakes and moving the bike back and forth.

The steering also feels smooth and easy, exactly as it should.

Everything "feels" as it should, as if the bike is functioning exactly how it was designed to.

Hmmm they look ok I will post a few photo of my SL8 today tomorrow in the same area see how they compare

[WWcyclist]

thanks for your suggestion.
What piece would you file ?
1. the casing of the upper bearing (thinning the carbon part into the frame)
2. the compression ring
3. the first headset spacer

Lower part should be qute easy IMHO:
I am thinking to fine the lower part of the fork tube, making it a little slimmer (0,5mm or less) so the bearing goes down and the gap should be filled.
Would you agree ?

Thanks!

You bought this from Taiwan Eisen off Alie Express? I'd recommend starting a separate post as well so you can tell everyone your experience.

Remember just cause it looks the same doesn't mean it's the same frameset. Tantan's version has larger headset bearings

[MTB-Addicted]

Bearings are both 49.5x40.5x6.5 - 45

What are the bearings of TanTan X68 ?

[WWcyclist]

Bearings are both 49.5x40.5x6.5 - 45

What are the bearings of TanTan X68 ?

Yeah the bearings you listed are the same for the majority of SL8 clones out there.

The Tantan/Seraph X68 and Spcycle R088 versions have 52mm bearings top and bottom.

[OlHag Cyclismo]

Looks like some of you have received your frames. Curious as to how long it took from placing your order to it arriving at your door? I’ve been eagerly waiting nearly 2 months now.