Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 31479 times)

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #240 on: January 20, 2025, 02:20:47 PM »
My Seraph/ TanTan TT X 68 Build - Size 54 - Matte Black


Future Weight Weenie Options:
HY Seatpost - 130g - $167 (saves 36g)
Avian Canary - 266g - $300 approximately (saves 60g)
BDOP 11-30 Cassette - 126g - $160 (saves 104g)
Xcadey/ Lexon 53/39 - 600g - $615 (saves 153g)
J&L Axles - 47g - $40(saves 15g)
Tofu Comtura Prima 28 Tires - 480g - $120 (saves 153g over current tires)
Wheels - 1150-1200g - $800 to infinity (plenty of options here)
Saddle - 100-130g - $40 to infinity (plenty of options here)

I'm curious  about the seatpost-I'd like a zero offset option, but upthread tantan told someone that an actual sl8 seatpost doesn't swap in...

Cnasta

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #241 on: January 21, 2025, 02:49:44 AM »
I'm 5'-10" to 5'-11", inner leg length i would say is normal. I've always run size 54 bikes (cervelo, giant, scott), so I'm expecting this to fit similarly. You can use BikeInsights.com to compare frame geometry's. I compared my now old Cervelo R3 to the SL8 (TTX68 is exact same geometry), and found 6mm more reach and 11mm lower stack.

Thanks, same length here (but in the normal metric system :P ) Also on 54 on different brands (or S in case of canyon).

I'm also eyeballing a different crank/powermeter. Not sure if everything fits on this frame. Which combi Xcadey/Lexon are you considering als an future update?

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #242 on: January 21, 2025, 08:53:40 AM »
Thanks, same length here (but in the normal metric system :P ) Also on 54 on different brands (or S in case of canyon).

I'm also eyeballing a different crank/powermeter. Not sure if everything fits on this frame. Which combi Xcadey/Lexon are you considering als an future update?
Likely 170 cranks as i have that on all my bikes. Don't see any 5 bolt 130bcd options, so probably going to go with their 4 bolt 110 bcd and their 54/40 chainrings. I'd probably go with the 24mm titanium spindle as well, for compatibility and availability of BB's across the different shell sizes.

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #243 on: January 21, 2025, 09:17:48 AM »
Cool build for the weight and price - just fire!
Tell about the feel, how well the bike rides, how stiff is the frame? What branded bikes can you compare it to?
I won't get a good feel for this frame until spring, as i'm parked on the trainer most of the time. Just spinning it around the neighborhood for 5 minutes, the ride is nice. I'll have a better feel for the ride and stiffness in a few months. I'll be comparing this frameset to a 2014 cervelo r3, winspace t1500 (in progress trainer/ crit bike build), and previous aluminum scott speedster (tractor of a bike compared to the ttx68).

Tom77

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #244 on: January 23, 2025, 07:36:25 AM »
What's likely to be the better choice, this one or the one from taiwan eisen?

WWcyclist

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #245 on: January 23, 2025, 07:48:55 AM »
What's likely to be the better choice, this one or the one from taiwan eisen?


Probably the seraph/Tantan since they are a brick and mortar company that owns their factories

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #246 on: January 23, 2025, 08:08:06 AM »
I suspect they're from the same source. I don't care for taiwaneisen's marketing-everything is a counterfeit branded and they even use a deceptive company name-so I bought from tantan.

WWcyclist

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #247 on: January 23, 2025, 08:29:52 AM »
I suspect they're from the same source. I don't care for taiwaneisen's marketing-everything is a counterfeit branded and they even use a deceptive company name-so I bought from tantan.


Maybe, I wonder if they produce their own in house because of the bigger bearings

Tom77

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #248 on: January 23, 2025, 09:03:55 AM »
Thanks folks!

I'm sold to TanTan, only have to clarify the paint options.

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #249 on: January 23, 2025, 09:34:28 AM »
Not enough photos in here  >:(

Takiyaki

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #250 on: January 23, 2025, 09:47:13 AM »
Not enough photos in here  >:(
Just Google "Tarmac SL8"  :D

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #251 on: January 23, 2025, 09:51:51 AM »
YES WE NEED MORE PHOTOS!!!

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #252 on: January 23, 2025, 06:17:50 PM »
Just Google "Tarmac SL8"  :D

Haha! I actually laughed out  ;D
Okay on that note...I will see my way out.

Bonus79

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #253 on: January 24, 2025, 04:53:20 AM »
Shitttttt, no hole for FD Di2.... Send them a message about it. It's a no-go for me, since I already have the groupset (2x11sp Di2 Ultegra).

Other option is the Speeder 55D, but it's about 350/400 usd more expensive or the Velobuild 268 that is a tiny bit heavier and seems to know some problems....

Hi, have you also looked at the Spcycle SP-R088 frame?
It has identical geometries to the TT-X68/SL8, but changes the shape of the head tube and fork.

WWcyclist

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #254 on: January 24, 2025, 04:54:58 AM »
Hi, have you also looked at the Spcycle SP-R088 frame?
It has identical geometries to the TT-X68/SL8, but changes the shape of the head tube and fork.

It has the necessary holes, they sell the complete bike with DI2