Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 196924 times)

dovh

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #930 on: May 10, 2025, 10:09:51 AM »
Hey all
For purchaser of the Frame

How long did your shipping take?
In particular anyone in the UK?

Mine took around 12 days  to Czech Republic if i remember correctly.

JImportante

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #931 on: May 10, 2025, 10:19:03 AM »
13 days to Poland

Ledkk

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #932 on: May 10, 2025, 10:24:06 AM »
What about additional fees and cost of shipping to UE?

dovh

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #933 on: May 10, 2025, 10:32:41 AM »
What about additional fees and cost of shipping to UE?

I didn't have to pay anything extra besides that 150USD DPD shipping. No custom duties not vat, it was just delivered by DPD to my place. 

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #934 on: May 10, 2025, 10:59:01 AM »
Hopefully pop up next week then trying to be patient
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11kgs RhinosWorkShop Build

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm
6.4kgs Current Estimate

snack

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #935 on: May 10, 2025, 03:30:17 PM »
I have a SL6 54mm. Is this frame a bit more aggressive than the SL6? More for racing and less
Comfort?

JImportante

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #936 on: May 10, 2025, 04:46:41 PM »
I didn't have to pay anything extra besides that 150USD DPD shipping. No custom duties not vat, it was just delivered by DPD to my place.

Same story with my order ;)

Lero970

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #937 on: May 11, 2025, 10:28:09 AM »
They now offer the X70 Frame, which looks to be the same as the Spcycle R088.  It's an SL8 clone with uDH and a different headtube design. Maybe it’s an interesting alternative if you don't want to buy a Spcycle.

jonathanf2

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #938 on: May 11, 2025, 10:42:50 AM »
They now offer the X70 Frame, which looks to be the same as the Spcycle R088.  It's an SL8 clone with uDH and a different headtube design. Maybe it’s an interesting alternative if you don't want to buy a Spcycle.

Seraph/TanTan now has the reputation of assploding forks. Maybe SPcycle is the alternative for those who want to keep all their teeth!  ;D

fhill

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #939 on: May 12, 2025, 01:59:50 AM »
They now offer the X70 Frame, which looks to be the same as the Spcycle R088.  It's an SL8 clone with uDH and a different headtube design. Maybe it’s an interesting alternative if you don't want to buy a Spcycle.

Would order at SPCycle in comparison to Tantan. Had their G069 delivered in January, way better comunication at SPCycle, and I would think that Tantan doesn't produce their TT-X70..

pandinoyoung

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #940 on: May 12, 2025, 02:46:47 AM »
, way better comunication at SPCycle, and I would think that Tantan doesn't produce their TT-X70..

I must be particularly unlucky, I sent an email to ask for information on one of their frames, and they never answered me. this 10 days ago

Serge_K

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #941 on: May 12, 2025, 02:48:45 AM »
Would order at SPCycle in comparison to Tantan. Had their G069 delivered in January, way better comunication at SPCycle, and I would think that Tantan doesn't produce their TT-X70..

Not that i like tantan, but a few thoughts / questions on SPCycle:
they only seem to exist online as an aliexpress seller (Shenzhen dishai industrial co., ltd), which is registered in "Room 206" in a building in Shenzen. Not, let's say, a factory in Xiamen (600km away). Then, SPCycle website takes you to another store front clearly tailored to the west, with the same reference to Shenzhen dishai industrial, which is good, as it implies, that unlike LTWOO, the spcycle store on aliexpress is the same as the online store on www.sp-cycle.com. But neither proves it's an actual factory. Arguably, everything points to the fact it's probably not a factory. None of their content looks like an OEM / factory. They only mention factory space in one sentence somewhere. Maybe it's the retail arm of a manufacturer they're hiding?
Either way, i'd argue SPcycle is less likely than tantan to make their own stuff. To me, they're like velobuild?
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

Ludo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #942 on: May 12, 2025, 03:19:29 AM »
I bought two frames from them (M06 and G056), from my discussions with them, I believe they are oem but it’s hard to prove with certainty.

Serge_K

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #943 on: May 12, 2025, 03:41:11 AM »
I bought two frames from them (M06 and G056), from my discussions with them, I believe they are oem but it’s hard to prove with certainty.

I read a book on that topic. Lying about this is extremely common in china, because chinese people know westerners want to hear that they're talking with the factory rather than a middleman. Makes us feel smart & connected, and we assume that we'll get a better deal.
Which doesnt mean they're lying to you, but when you look at Xiamen carbon speed, long teng, farsports and more, you feel like you're talking to the factory. In fact farsports invited me to visit their factory :)
I can't say that w SPCycle. At the very least, they are hiding any details about the factory. the fact their email is @lc2000.com.cn and has nothing to do with "spcycle" isn't a great starting point.
It's a key reason i'm doing my best not to buy from them, because i want to feel that i'm trusting my seller. if you're a broker, especially making your money on aliexpress, there's nothing stopping you from doing whatever you want, anytime. I dont like that. The quality fade on Alix is legendary. Airwolf is the same, btw, just worse, as we know that very often, airwolf ships out bad frames to people. we can only assume that they source whatever, wherever, and you roll the dice on what you get.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

Avalius

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #944 on: May 12, 2025, 05:46:20 AM »
Not that i like tantan, but a few thoughts / questions on SPCycle:
they only seem to exist online as an aliexpress seller (Shenzhen dishai industrial co., ltd), which is registered in "Room 206" in a building in Shenzen. Not, let's say, a factory in Xiamen (600km away). Then, SPCycle website takes you to another store front clearly tailored to the west, with the same reference to Shenzhen dishai industrial, which is good, as it implies, that unlike LTWOO, the spcycle store on aliexpress is the same as the online store on www.sp-cycle.com. But neither proves it's an actual factory. Arguably, everything points to the fact it's probably not a factory. None of their content looks like an OEM / factory. They only mention factory space in one sentence somewhere. Maybe it's the retail arm of a manufacturer they're hiding?
Either way, i'd argue SPcycle is less likely than tantan to make their own stuff. To me, they're like velobuild?

Even the LTWoo store on AliExpress isn't from Ltwoo but a reseller. Trace Velo spoke to them on shangai bike show. Last part of his video he says they are working on a B2C portal but for now only B2B.
So that's why people have better experience there with 80 designer store. Since he's the better reseller with an eye for customer service  :)
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