Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 1474097 times)

JustinFox

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1800 on: November 08, 2025, 05:36:22 PM »
Spent some time test riding a newly built size 52 X68 today. I brought my genuine S-Works SL8 (also size 52) along and did a fair few bike swaps to see if I could feel the difference.

Sadly I couldn't make an accurate comparison as the spec of both bikes are way different. I'm running SRAM Red E1 and he's running Wheeltop so the difference in hood/lever feel alone threw me off quite a lot (SRAM E1 levers just feel too good and being able to comfortably get all 4 fingers under the hoods makes a world of difference when sprinting out of the saddle IMHO).

We also had issues with the front derailleur cage hitting the crank arm due to flex when sprinting out of the saddle (sadly I scratched up his front mech!), but he managed to sort that out by tuning the Wheeltop during our ride.

Got to say, it's a fast bike. He did say multiple times that my bike felt like it rolled faster, but again, that could just be down to spec, specifically tyres as I'm running GP5000 TT TR's and he was running S TR's. That said he was running lighter ZEN Carbon Bike 50/50 deep wheels and I'm running CRW's 40/45's. Again, so much difference in spec, but no doubt about it, the X68 is a fast bike and it rides insanely good for the price, especially when you compare it to how much a genuine S-Works SL8 frameset costs.

phizz86

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1801 on: November 08, 2025, 07:29:28 PM »
Has anyone ordered the frame with groupset (105 di2 or ultegra di2) directltly from tantan? I am thinking of doing this as I already have a set of wheels I can use.

Any experience or concerns for buying the groupset installed direct from tanran?

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1802 on: November 09, 2025, 07:31:54 AM »
Has anyone ordered the frame with groupset (105 di2 or ultegra di2) directltly from tantan? I am thinking of doing this as I already have a set of wheels I can use.

Any experience or concerns for buying the groupset installed direct from tanran?

Mine came built (with wheeltop) from Tantan. I did it that way to avoid potential build hassles with hoses and caliper alignment. Glad that I did. Subsequent shift to Campy calipers went easy as I suspect tantan cleaned up the mounts for their build.

phizz86

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1803 on: November 09, 2025, 05:34:24 PM »
Mine came built (with wheeltop) from Tantan. I did it that way to avoid potential build hassles with hoses and caliper alignment. Glad that I did. Subsequent shift to Campy calipers went easy as I suspect tantan cleaned up the mounts for their build.

Thanks—yes, I was hoping to avoid any mounting issues. The cost of buying it directly with Ultegra Di2 installed also seems cheaper than buying and installing the components myself (in the US), and it saves on labor time. As long as the groupset is genuine, it seems like this is the best choice.

les_ride

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1804 on: November 09, 2025, 06:23:29 PM »
Finally got mine delivered 11/3 (ordered 8/21). Complete build with Ultegra, size 49 (my height is 165cm) with 380x90 bars, white, with the wavy wheels. Had to cut the seatpost and drill the two holes for the battery holder. Changed the saddle to Ryet ultimate, and the bottle cages that came with it couldn't fit a regular bottle so I replaced them with cages from another bike. Installed a k-edge computer mount and will be using assioma duos for power. Replaced the wavy wheels with yoeleos from another bike, and put the wavy wheels on that bike. So far so good! Tested a quick sprint and it felt fast. Gonna go for a proper ride in the weekend coming. Hopefully all goes well.

Edit: I'm in NYC.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2025, 06:41:14 PM by les_ride »

Bugo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1805 on: November 10, 2025, 12:01:37 AM »
Has anyone ordered the frame with groupset (105 di2 or ultegra di2) directltly from tantan? I am thinking of doing this as I already have a set of wheels I can use.

Any experience or concerns for buying the groupset installed direct from tanran?

I did. 2 bikes. One with 105 Di2 and the other with Ultegra Di2.
Absolutelly no issues.

Freddy__HH

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1806 on: November 10, 2025, 12:15:22 AM »
So it’s possible to order a frame + groupset? Or are you referring to complete bikes?

I hope it’s genuine Shimano components, right?

naiboo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1807 on: November 10, 2025, 03:15:42 AM »
So it’s possible to order a frame + groupset? Or are you referring to complete bikes?

I hope it’s genuine Shimano components, right?
i think he refers to this:
https://www.tantanbikes.com/full-bike-shimano-R8170-ultegra-DI2-groupset-ull-Internal-Cable-Disc-Road-bike-TT-X68-Novatec-D411D412-hubT-X68-bike-p6790494.html

Bugo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1808 on: November 10, 2025, 05:59:08 AM »
So it’s possible to order a frame + groupset? Or are you referring to complete bikes?

I hope it’s genuine Shimano components, right?

Hi. I ordered both bikes with seperate groupset. And I assemblied bike on my own.
Also price is much cheaper than in EU =) Any yes, genuine Shimano equipment.

naiboo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1809 on: November 10, 2025, 06:10:02 AM »
Hi. I ordered both bikes with seperate groupset. And I assemblied bike on my own.
Also price is much cheaper than in EU =) Any yes, genuine Shimano equipment.
Just to get this straight, you ordered the group set directly at tantan too or from third party at ali?

Bugo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1810 on: November 11, 2025, 12:53:30 AM »
Just to get this straight, you ordered the group set directly at tantan too or from third party at ali?

I bought a frame at Seraph (Tan Tan). 
They have also arranged groupset for me, but it was not assemblied on a bike.
I got everything in one box and assemblied by myself.

Tom77

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1811 on: November 11, 2025, 01:48:47 AM »
I'm struggling with the sizing of the x68 / SL8 and seeking advice. I´m 178cm and inseam of 82cm. Saddle height from center bb to top of the saddle is atm 76cm and stem 110.
I currently ride a Scott Addict 20 2015 and a Scott Speedster Gravel 2023, both in 54. Both fit nicely and to be fair i've mainly ridden the gravel lately and love it. https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/tantan-tt-x68-2024-54,tantan-tt-x68-2024-56,scott-addict-10-2015-54,scott-speedster-gravel-20-2023-m54/

According to SL8 sizing i fall exactly between 54 and 56. I tend to go to a 54 atm but i fear that it is too agressive and need a spacer stack of ~2cm to fit me well.

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.

54 for sure

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1812 on: November 11, 2025, 02:46:00 AM »
Hello All,
I have been lurking and "researching" for a frame as I updated a bike with 105 mechanical that only had about 350-500 miles on it and the wheels.  The group set  and wheels have been in boxes for 2 years and decided to buy a used frame, but came across this site and decided to buy a clone for the hell of it!  I appreciate all the information from everyone to help each other out.  I decide on a Seraph and purchased via PayPal on Sat Nov. 8th.  For anyone interested, I will return the favors you have given me in the timeline, pictures of the frame, interior of the frame, etc...

naiboo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1813 on: November 11, 2025, 04:46:25 AM »
I bought a frame at Seraph (Tan Tan). 
They have also arranged groupset for me, but it was not assemblied on a bike.
I got everything in one box and assemblied by myself.
thanks Bugo. I'm in contact with Rose right now and will ask her what price they can offer for a groupset too  8)

Bonus79

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1814 on: November 11, 2025, 11:07:19 AM »
Here it is:
What model of water bottle cage did you install? Do you have a link?
Thanks