Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame

[DavidG]

Do any of you receive any cable grommets with the frameset? Does it need any?

[gyhu]

Hi, sorry to bother you, mate. I love the finish of your frame. How did you get that finish? It's exactly what I want, but I only see the matte and gloss black UD finishes on Spycycle. Best regards and thanks in advance.

Your question is hiden in quote. You need to message spcycle and specify what you want. And this is UD glossy.

[fharcet]

Representing my build: all Chinese parts, only the tires are from Continental. Everything went smoothly without any problems. The bottom bracket is fine, the fork stem and bearings are fine, and the wheel axle surface is good. The only issue I need to take care of is the disc rubbing under load. Overall, I'm very happy with the quality of the frame. The build weighs around 7 kg.

[kaan84]

Hello everyone,
My Spcycle SP R088 frameset was delivered about a week ago.
This morning I started assembling the bike, and as you can see in the photo, the bearing cover doesn’t sit completely flush with the fork’s crown.
Am I doing something wrong or missing a part?

[simo8891]

Hello everyone,
My Spcycle SP R088 frameset was delivered about a week ago.
This morning I started assembling the bike, and as you can see in the photo, the bearing cover doesn’t sit completely flush with the fork’s crown.
Am I doing something wrong or missing a part?

It's not needed.
The fork has an integrated crown race.

[benquick]

Hi everyone. First, I must say that this forum has been an incredibly helpful resource for figuring out what to look for in Chinese frames and components, and once again I will try to use you all to get more insight.

I am in the market for a new frame, and I am torn between Spcycle R088 and LongTeng LTK266-D-SL. Both seem like good deals, are fairly lightweight, and tick all other boxes in regards to how I want my next bike to be (UDH, wide tire clearance etc.). Both being relatively good frames that match my objective criteria, I am now thinking that the ride feel should be an important deciding factor also. For example, people in the LongTeng thread mention how the ride can be relatively boring and how LTK266-D-SL is not aero at all, but I have problems with figuring out how this frame would relate to that. Overall, since the difference of 100g is not going to make much difference when climbing, I am going to list the "ride feel" criteria ordered by importance (skipping any criteria I do not really think about):

• Absorbing the road noise. For long rides, I find that my current bike is relatively unforgiving, which I would like to remedy.
• How fast the bike feels, the feeling of immediateness when accelerating and excitement when fast cornering. I imagine this makes riding fun, and I want the most of it that I can get.
• How tucked in do I have to be when riding on the flats; I feel like I am relatively flexible, and the ride position can be manipulated with headset spacers, stem lenght, and seat position. Even though I would like to go fast (=be tucked in), I can't tell which of these two frames is going to be more flexible in regards to how I set up the bike and position myself. It it matters, I am 184cm/70kg and currently ride a relatively aggressive geometry. Both of these frames should allow me to get a more relaxed position in size L/56, but I am wondering about if there are any significant differences between the two.

For example, in regards to aero, both Spcycle and LongTeng feature a D-shaped seatpost, a slight cutout for the rear wheel, and arguably a non-aero circular headtube. However, people in the other thread are explicitly saying that LTK266-D-SL is not aero, but when I compare the geometry to R088 (see here for sizes L/56: https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/longteng-ltk266-d-sl-2025-l,spcycle-r088-2025-56/), the headtube of the latter is higher, and the stack heights are similar. LTK266-D-SL also has 35mm tire clearance, and it is impossible for me to judge whether this meaningfully affects performance (given the same tires and wheels on both frames). What should I make of this? I am asking about aero since I relate it with the feeling of going fast -- but since I lack the experience with different frames, I am also wondering whether any of these properties are going to significantly affect my comfort?

Next thing relates to the stiffness of both frames. It has been mentioned in this thread that some flex has been noticed in the top-tube, while LTK266-D-SL uses higher-grade carbon, which is stiffer and perhaps more uncomfortable. I don't really know how to think about this, and if someone can provide some insight, it would really help my decision process.

Thank you all for any insights that you might have. General opinions about whether picking one frame over the other is going to have a noticeable impact in the first place are also welcome. I am also wondering how informed my decision can even be without trying out both frames, as it seems difficult to judge such specific criteria based on frame images, specs and reports from other riders who have only ridden one of the two frames.

[kaan84]

Hi, I’m very satisfied with the frameset — the quality is excellent. However, when I install the half-cut C-shaped cap piece (which I believe is meant to lock the upper bearing), there’s a gap in my setup as shown in the photos. What am I doing wrong?

I asked the Spcycle store on AliExpress about this situation, and they replied that it’s completely normal. What do you think?

[Ludo]

Have you compressed the headset yet? It may seat down a bit more but you won’t have perfect almost 0 gap. If you want to achieve that you will have to get you file out and remove some of the C ring material. At least that’s a what I did for my gravel bike.

[Bonus79]

Hi everyone. First, I must say that this forum has been an incredibly helpful resource for figuring out what to look for in Chinese frames and components, and once again I will try to use you all to get more insight.

I am in the market for a new frame, and I am torn between Spcycle R088 and LongTeng LTK266-D-SL. Both seem like good deals, are fairly lightweight, and tick all other boxes in regards to how I want my next bike to be (UDH, wide tire clearance etc.). Both being relatively good frames that match my objective criteria, I am now thinking that the ride feel should be an important deciding factor also. For example, people in the LongTeng thread mention how the ride can be relatively boring and how LTK266-D-SL is not aero at all, but I have problems with figuring out how this frame would relate to that. Overall, since the difference of 100g is not going to make much difference when climbing, I am going to list the "ride feel" criteria ordered by importance (skipping any criteria I do not really think about):

• Absorbing the road noise. For long rides, I find that my current bike is relatively unforgiving, which I would like to remedy.
• How fast the bike feels, the feeling of immediateness when accelerating and excitement when fast cornering. I imagine this makes riding fun, and I want the most of it that I can get.
• How tucked in do I have to be when riding on the flats; I feel like I am relatively flexible, and the ride position can be manipulated with headset spacers, stem lenght, and seat position. Even though I would like to go fast (=be tucked in), I can't tell which of these two frames is going to be more flexible in regards to how I set up the bike and position myself. It it matters, I am 184cm/70kg and currently ride a relatively aggressive geometry. Both of these frames should allow me to get a more relaxed position in size L/56, but I am wondering about if there are any significant differences between the two.

For example, in regards to aero, both Spcycle and LongTeng feature a D-shaped seatpost, a slight cutout for the rear wheel, and arguably a non-aero circular headtube. However, people in the other thread are explicitly saying that LTK266-D-SL is not aero, but when I compare the geometry to R088 (see here for sizes L/56: https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/longteng-ltk266-d-sl-2025-l,spcycle-r088-2025-56/), the headtube of the latter is higher, and the stack heights are similar. LTK266-D-SL also has 35mm tire clearance, and it is impossible for me to judge whether this meaningfully affects performance (given the same tires and wheels on both frames). What should I make of this? I am asking about aero since I relate it with the feeling of going fast -- but since I lack the experience with different frames, I am also wondering whether any of these properties are going to significantly affect my comfort?

Next thing relates to the stiffness of both frames. It has been mentioned in this thread that some flex has been noticed in the top-tube, while LTK266-D-SL uses higher-grade carbon, which is stiffer and perhaps more uncomfortable. I don't really know how to think about this, and if someone can provide some insight, it would really help my decision process.

Thank you all for any insights that you might have. General opinions about whether picking one frame over the other is going to have a noticeable impact in the first place are also welcome. I am also wondering how informed my decision can even be without trying out both frames, as it seems difficult to judge such specific criteria based on frame images, specs and reports from other riders who have only ridden one of the two frames.

Hi, since I haven't tested either frame, I can't give you a definitive answer.
However, I have a few comments on the data you posted:
1) I think the stack you reported on the LTK266-D-SL isn't correct... if you look at the geometry on the LTbike website, the stack in the L size is 559mm, not 564mm;
2) Reading the specs, the carbon used is T800 for the LTK266-D-SL and T1000 for the R088, so theoretically the T1000 of the R088 is "better," and should be stiffer;
3) Keep in mind that a stiffer frame also means more vibrations transmitted from the road (with the same wheels and tires);
4) Looking at the geometry of the two frames, although the LTK266-D-SL has a lower stack height, overall it seems to have more "relaxed" geometry (see 7mm shorter reach and 72.5° head angle versus the R088's 73.5°).
Considering the above, if you're looking for a more responsive frame, perhaps (based on paper) the R088 might be the better choice.

My criteria, however, is primarily aesthetic...so (if the geometry is good), I'd say get the one you like best. 

[BeR]

Hi, since I haven't tested either frame, I can't give you a definitive answer.
However, I have a few comments on the data you posted:
1) I think the stack you reported on the LTK266-D-SL isn't correct... if you look at the geometry on the LTbike website, the stack in the L size is 559mm, not 564mm;
2) Reading the specs, the carbon used is T800 for the LTK266-D-SL and T1000 for the R088, so theoretically the T1000 of the R088 is "better," and should be stiffer;
3) Keep in mind that a stiffer frame also means more vibrations transmitted from the road (with the same wheels and tires);
4) Looking at the geometry of the two frames, although the LTK266-D-SL has a lower stack height, overall it seems to have more "relaxed" geometry (see 7mm shorter reach and 72.5° head angle versus the R088's 73.5°).
Considering the above, if you're looking for a more responsive frame, perhaps (based on paper) the R088 might be the better choice.

My criteria, however, is primarily aesthetic...so (if the geometry is good), I'd say get the one you like best. 

Keep in mind that full T1000 is a lie. Most of the frame is T700 or T800.

[Sakizashi]

Hi, since I haven't tested either frame, I can't give you a definitive answer.
However, I have a few comments on the data you posted:
1) I think the stack you reported on the LTK266-D-SL isn't correct... if you look at the geometry on the LTbike website, the stack in the L size is 559mm, not 564mm;
2) Reading the specs, the carbon used is T800 for the LTK266-D-SL and T1000 for the R088, so theoretically the T1000 of the R088 is "better," and should be stiffer;
3) Keep in mind that a stiffer frame also means more vibrations transmitted from the road (with the same wheels and tires);
4) Looking at the geometry of the two frames, although the LTK266-D-SL has a lower stack height, overall it seems to have more "relaxed" geometry (see 7mm shorter reach and 72.5° head angle versus the R088's 73.5°).
Considering the above, if you're looking for a more responsive frame, perhaps (based on paper) the R088 might be the better choice.

My criteria, however, is primarily aesthetic...so (if the geometry is good), I'd say get the one you like best. 

You pulled the numbers from the LTK266D, not the SL model. The 266DSL in theory, is M65, T1000, and T1100. How much of those materials is used, and whether or not there is a fourth material, is an open question.

Hi everyone. First, I must say that this forum has been an incredibly helpful resource for figuring out what to look for in Chinese frames and components, and once again I will try to use you all to get more insight.

I am in the market for a new frame, and I am torn between Spcycle R088 and LongTeng LTK266-D-SL. Both seem like good deals, are fairly lightweight, and tick all other boxes in regards to how I want my next bike to be (UDH, wide tire clearance etc.). Both being relatively good frames that match my objective criteria, I am now thinking that the ride feel should be an important deciding factor also. For example, people in the LongTeng thread mention how the ride can be relatively boring and how LTK266-D-SL is not aero at all, but I have problems with figuring out how this frame would relate to that. Overall, since the difference of 100g is not going to make much difference when climbing, I am going to list the "ride feel" criteria ordered by importance (skipping any criteria I do not really think about):

• Absorbing the road noise. For long rides, I find that my current bike is relatively unforgiving, which I would like to remedy.
• How fast the bike feels, the feeling of immediateness when accelerating and excitement when fast cornering. I imagine this makes riding fun, and I want the most of it that I can get.
• How tucked in do I have to be when riding on the flats; I feel like I am relatively flexible, and the ride position can be manipulated with headset spacers, stem lenght, and seat position. Even though I would like to go fast (=be tucked in), I can't tell which of these two frames is going to be more flexible in regards to how I set up the bike and position myself. It it matters, I am 184cm/70kg and currently ride a relatively aggressive geometry. Both of these frames should allow me to get a more relaxed position in size L/56, but I am wondering about if there are any significant differences between the two.

For example, in regards to aero, both Spcycle and LongTeng feature a D-shaped seatpost, a slight cutout for the rear wheel, and arguably a non-aero circular headtube. However, people in the other thread are explicitly saying that LTK266-D-SL is not aero, but when I compare the geometry to R088 (see here for sizes L/56: https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/longteng-ltk266-d-sl-2025-l,spcycle-r088-2025-56/), the headtube of the latter is higher, and the stack heights are similar. LTK266-D-SL also has 35mm tire clearance, and it is impossible for me to judge whether this meaningfully affects performance (given the same tires and wheels on both frames). What should I make of this? I am asking about aero since I relate it with the feeling of going fast -- but since I lack the experience with different frames, I am also wondering whether any of these properties are going to significantly affect my comfort?

Next thing relates to the stiffness of both frames. It has been mentioned in this thread that some flex has been noticed in the top-tube, while LTK266-D-SL uses higher-grade carbon, which is stiffer and perhaps more uncomfortable. I don't really know how to think about this, and if someone can provide some insight, it would really help my decision process.

Thank you all for any insights that you might have. General opinions about whether picking one frame over the other is going to have a noticeable impact in the first place are also welcome. I am also wondering how informed my decision can even be without trying out both frames, as it seems difficult to judge such specific criteria based on frame images, specs and reports from other riders who have only ridden one of the two frames.

Regarding comfort, the big benefit of more clearance is the option to run wider tires, should you want to. Otherwise hard to see an upside or downside. Top tubes are primarily in tension so flex by squeezing it will mean close to nothing. I don't know if there is a single person on this forum who has experience with both frames who can comment on ride feel. One thing to keep in mind is that once you include the cost of sourcing your own headset, and add in the cost of paint, thru axles, and shipping the LTK266DSL ends up being a lot more expensive than this frame.

[HarryFunmaker]

Hi, I’m very satisfied with the frameset — the quality is excellent. However, when I install the half-cut C-shaped cap piece (which I believe is meant to lock the upper bearing), there’s a gap in my setup as shown in the photos. What am I doing wrong?

I asked the Spcycle store on AliExpress about this situation, and they replied that it’s completely normal. What do you think?

I bought a Lexon Vero bar/stem combo and it came with a thinner (by 3mm) C ring that gives me no gap. Unfortunately, the product images don't show the C ring, so I can't really recommend it as a solution. I can only say that no gap is possible with a different setup. Maybe you could try filing it down as mentioned, or maybe you can find a thinner one on AliExpress if you do some searching. Kind of a bummer that they think this sort of gap is normal when it's not.

[Lord_Herbert]

Hi, I’m very satisfied with the frameset — the quality is excellent. However, when I install the half-cut C-shaped cap piece (which I believe is meant to lock the upper bearing), there’s a gap in my setup as shown in the photos. What am I doing wrong?

I asked the Spcycle store on AliExpress about this situation, and they replied that it’s completely normal. What do you think?

Did it come with two of the c-rings? Mine did and they were ever so slightly different sizes - when I changed to the other one the gap disappeared

[Bonus79]

You pulled the numbers from the LTK266D, not the SL model. The 266DSL in theory, is M65, T1000, and T1100. How much of those materials is used, and whether or not there is a fourth material, is an open question.

You're right, sorry...I didn't realize the search engine directed me to the "normal" model (not SL).

[benquick]

Hi, since I haven't tested either frame, I can't give you a definitive answer.
However, I have a few comments on the data you posted:
1) I think the stack you reported on the LTK266-D-SL isn't correct... if you look at the geometry on the LTbike website, the stack in the L size is 559mm, not 564mm;
2) Reading the specs, the carbon used is T800 for the LTK266-D-SL and T1000 for the R088, so theoretically the T1000 of the R088 is "better," and should be stiffer;
3) Keep in mind that a stiffer frame also means more vibrations transmitted from the road (with the same wheels and tires);
4) Looking at the geometry of the two frames, although the LTK266-D-SL has a lower stack height, overall it seems to have more "relaxed" geometry (see 7mm shorter reach and 72.5° head angle versus the R088's 73.5°).
Considering the above, if you're looking for a more responsive frame, perhaps (based on paper) the R088 might be the better choice.

My criteria, however, is primarily aesthetic...so (if the geometry is good), I'd say get the one you like best. 

You pulled the numbers from the LTK266D, not the SL model. The 266DSL in theory, is M65, T1000, and T1100. How much of those materials is used, and whether or not there is a fourth material, is an open question.

Regarding comfort, the big benefit of more clearance is the option to run wider tires, should you want to. Otherwise hard to see an upside or downside. Top tubes are primarily in tension so flex by squeezing it will mean close to nothing. I don't know if there is a single person on this forum who has experience with both frames who can comment on ride feel. One thing to keep in mind is that once you include the cost of sourcing your own headset, and add in the cost of paint, thru axles, and shipping the LTK266DSL ends up being a lot more expensive than this frame.

Based on the answers from you two, it feels like so much depends on properties of the bike components that it might not make too much sense to overthink this. I note, however, the comments on stiffness (LTK266-D-SL wins here as it uses higher-grade carbon -- I guess this should correspond to the frame feeling more immediate), and perhaps the resulting discomfort can be readily remedied with a more comfortable seat or wider tires. I doubt I will ever get to 35mm, but coming from 25mm that I currently have, there is a lot of headroom with both frames for me to improve comfort if needed.

Second interesting point is about the headset angle, and this also relates to the stem length and how it affects the ride feel. The R088's headtube is steeper, but in my mind getting a longer stem on LTK266-D-SL should give me a similar feeling of immediate feedback when cornering and in general riding. Does this reasoning make sense?

At the end of the day, you might be right to pick whichever looks best for me, and buy such components that will match my fit, wants, and wishes. It seems like that both frames give me the flexibility to do that.