Irish Cycles, are these Chinese frames rebranded?

[Noviva07]

I suspect Irish cycles is using cheap Chinese drones and repainting them? You guys are experts at this, can anyone figure which makes/models they are using? If they are...

[johnnyboy4711]

linky?

[toxin]

https://www.irishcycles.com/ what a disgusting webpage

but yeah, I've seen those frames before

[kubackje]

LMAO that's awful. Who made that website

[BalticSea]

I have a feeling that the website has not been updated since 2007.

But hey, it could be worse, just look at Amazon website.

With that said, they're definitely using Chinese frames, but overall value doesn't seem terrible.

Ok, nevermind, the value is absolutely terrible. I thought it was 2700 USD for complete bike build with Force AXS, not 5k.

[Noviva07]

I kinda figured they were junk lol. They sponsor a local NC race team near fort Bragg. They use "veteran owned" ad a way to protect and add flavor to their fake brand. This stuff needs to be called out. Everyone agree it's BS? Check out there Facebook pages. They also have a "wheel brand". Looks exactly like elite wheels to me.

https://www.facebook.com/share/19xSWu3bjA/?mibextid=wwXIfr

https://www.facebook.com/share/19ipFzrUY4/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[Noviva07]

Here's there hubs. Looks like a super team to me

[Noviva07]

Their hub.. Carolina 8.8.

[toxin]

These are powerway hubs

[bremerradkurier]

I have a feeling that the website has not been updated since 2007.

But hey, it could be worse, just look at Amazon website.

With that said, they're definitely using Chinese frames, but overall value doesn't seem terrible.

Ok, nevermind, the value is absolutely terrible. I thought it was 2700 USD for complete bike build with Force AXS, not 5k.

I could qualify for their not all that great military discount but would have much better  mil discount options with Canyon, Intense, and several other far more legitimate brands.

[Noviva07]

I could too, see guys riding around with their wheels feeling proud. I just don't think they know, the same wheels are available for half the cost on eBay. The funny part is, these guys would clown on a person using Chinese "junk". Classic!!

[bremerradkurier]

I could too, see guys riding around with their wheels feeling proud. I just don't think they know, the same wheels are available for half the cost on eBay. The funny part is, these guys would clown on a person using Chinese "junk". Classic!!

For what their carbon wheelsets cost, you could get much nicer November wheels.

https://novemberbicycles.com/collections/shop-wheels

[biceryder]

Yeah, they are based out of a guy's house in Fayetteville, NC.  I think it's just an avid veteran cyclist that started his own thing.  Seen 1-2 of their bikes on the road. 

I don't think they do that much business.  I'm 99.9% sure they are open mold frames from China.  Never saw them claim they were otherwise.

[Da11as]

I kinda figured they were junk lol. They sponsor a local NC race team near fort Bragg. They use "veteran owned" ad a way to protect and add flavor to their fake brand. This stuff needs to be called out. Everyone agree it's BS? Check out there Facebook pages. They also have a "wheel brand". Looks exactly like elite wheels to me.

https://www.facebook.com/share/19xSWu3bjA/?mibextid=wwXIfr

https://www.facebook.com/share/19ipFzrUY4/?mibextid=wwXIfr

I don't think it's worth to start the holy war. Big chunk of "boutique" brands use OEM frames and the rest use quite similar approach. If people want to believe their Trek frame is made in USA with some special american sauce, disapproving them only makes them to channel the frustration on you. Otherwise, they would have done their own research years ago.

[Noviva07]

I think it's just the mark up that bothers me. Also, the veteran owned business... bla bla.. 16 years acting duty here. Then offering a discount, you could just from China without decals for much less. No holy war, more or less wanted to validate my thoughts.