Author Topic: LTK266-D-SL, race frame, 680g, <800g w/paint & metal parts (M), fits 35mm+ tires  (Read 382319 times)

oker_s

inspired by the scott collor approach! thoughts about this? the upper half white glossy...rest carbon glossy!

klrdd

inspired by the scott collor approach! thoughts about this? the upper half white glossy...rest carbon glossy!

i love the scott addict rc colorway; I think that would look really good -- but maybe carbon matte instead of glossy

oker_s

i love the scott addict rc colorway; I think that would look really good -- but maybe carbon matte instead of glossy

Would you prefer my idea or the original Scott? I'd like the carbon like the one in the picture Alisa sent me! Is it matte or glossy? I'll ask her.

Sakizashi

But the other thing is, the bike feels really stiff. I do not know how much this is due to the bars and wheels, too. Way stiffer than the 2015 BMC with 2015 35mm ENVE hoops, which is my reference point. Perhaps the LTK's stiffness would be jarring with skinny high-pressure tires, but because I'm making use of the 35C clearance, it all evens out, and makes the bike very responsive, but not twitchy or chattery at all.

I had this question today too, having done a workout on my Ti Road Bike and then taken this one out. It's hard to compare them since the Ti bike is lower than my 266SL iand has a different front-to-rear weight balance, but I think the Ti bike feels slightly smoother over bricks and cobbles. It did not feel like a clear notion, just a fleeting thought. I will say that the 266SL feels fantastic when accelerating, but I don't weigh very much, while my sprint packs a punch for a little guy, it's nothing to write home about.

I did swap the wheels, so I was running the same tires and pressures.

I also did a back-to-back mostly relaxed ride on this vs. a Pinarello F12, and I don't feel like this frame misses that much in terms of how it feels. The aero stuff I can't really compare, since my riding position is so much more aero than the more traditional position used by the F12's owner, that it completely drowns out any frame differences.

The more relevant question, though, is whether this bike feels better than a contemporary bike from Velobuild or the other lower-cost frames or something a little more expsnive like the Speeder SC55. I can't assess either.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2025, 06:49:05 PM by Sakizashi »

contraptions

Pretty light unpainted!

I have the same patch in the bottom bracket and you can see it's been patched from the outside.

The bars are chunky - 420g.  I'm going to be running Bontrager RSR VR-C Aeolus bars but for $80 figured I may as well have a set... I'm sure they'll get used for something at some point.


contraptions

Per others' experience the supplied headset doesn't fit  >:(

The conical/c-spacer centreing spacer and bearing are just about proud of the top of the frame, however the top cap has a 1mm recess.

Both bearings measure 51.78 * 8 with what appears to be a 45 external and 36 internal.

Sakizashi

Sheesh. Thats bad.

If you didnt have the bar, I would just recommend pitching that headset and asking for a refund rather than having them ship out a new part.

If you have this frame and need help with integration DM me. I have a very limited number (3) of Deda C rings that should fit these stock bearings as well headset cover/ adapter designs that work with the FSA No. 55 headset or a 45/45 upper bearing. If I already have the part designed I will sell it to you for a steep discount. I probably wont take on jobs like integrating a Trek bar tho.

This frame is too good to be stuck waiting for parts or for want of an integration solution.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2025, 06:15:18 PM by Sakizashi »

contraptions

Sheesh. Thats bad.

If you didnt have the bar, I would just recommend pitching that headset and asking for a refund rather than having them ship out a new part.
I'm not too concerned about the 12USD as I'd intended to replace it with a better/lighter assembly in any case and just bought it so I'd know the correct size...

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If you have this frame and need help with integration DM me. I have a very limited number (3) of Deda C rings that should fit these stock bearings as well designs that work with the FSA No. 55 headset or a 45/45 upper bearing.
Are you referring to one of these "HDCOMPRACR COMPRESSION RING for ACR headset, 36°×45°, PA66":?
https://dedaelementi.com/media/catalog/product/attachment//d/c/dcr_s-dcr_headsets_spare_parts.pdf

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If I already have the part designed I will sell it to you for a steep discount.
What bit have you designed? Curious/confused ;-)


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This frame is too good to be stuck waiting for parts or for want of an integration solution.
I need to paint (or rather Cerakote) the thing first...

Thanks!


Sakizashi

I'm not too concerned about the 12USD as I'd intended to replace it with a better/lighter assembly in any case and just bought it so I'd know the correct size...
Are you referring to one of these "HDCOMPRACR COMPRESSION RING for ACR headset, 36°×45°, PA66":?
https://dedaelementi.com/media/catalog/product/attachment//d/c/dcr_s-dcr_headsets_spare_parts.pdf
What bit have you designed? Curious/confused ;-)

I need to paint (or rather Cerakote) the thing first...

Thanks!


Oops. Headset covers and adapters. FSA, EXS, Enve, Kalloy Uno, the Tarmac stem are all options. Generally, these are designed to be really low stack, but spacers can be used on a lot of these.

Offer isn't just for you  ;), but DM for more details, I dont want to derail this thread from its intended purpose.

klrdd

I'm not too concerned about the 12USD as I'd intended to replace it with a better/lighter assembly in any case and just bought it so I'd know the correct size...

Exactly my thinking. I thought well, $12, that's fine to see what should fit the frame. But then they sent me different bearings from you, a useless crown race, and no c-ring or dustcap at all! As someone new to bike building, confusion of ill fitting bearings, and then the stress of waiting for the FSA headset to be delivered and anxiously hoping it would work, was worse than the $12 loss. All good in the end, though!

As I mentioned in a previous post the FSA ACR no55 headset works perfect. $55 well spent, I guess. I also briefly dropped in Deda stuff for 1 1/2 - 1 1/8 fully integrated when over at a friend's place to get the steerer cut and that seemed fine too.

contraptions

Looking at this again, I reckon the bottom bearing is too tall.. check out my earlier photo.  Looks like a 7mm bearing would be better.

klrdd

Looking at this again, I reckon the bottom bearing is too tall.. check out my earlier photo.  Looks like a 7mm bearing would be better.

Are you sure it's too tall, or the outer chamfer is too shallow? The FSA bearings I used appeared to have significantly more depth (3mm out of total 8mm) to the outer 45 degree chamfer than those supplied by LT, which made the FSA ones fit better on the 45 degree sloping parts of the inside of the headtube, rather than sit on top of it. See the attached spec doc from FSA to see what I mean--namely the blueprint of the headtube itself.

klrdd

Update after slamming the stem to match my previous bike's position, and doing a 90 minute solo where I could really pay attention to feel. This was an object lesson in how much fit matters. I didn't realize how uncomfortable I was with the extra 30mm of spacer stack and how much that was affecting my sense of the bikes handling.

As I settle in and get used to the LTK266-D-SL, it is starting to wow me. The only thing I'm missing right now is a certain snap of acceleration, and I attribute that almost entirely to the change in tires. If it had 30mm GP5k mounted instead of these Michelin Pro5 35mm comfy boys, I doubt it would miss a beat. Having tires that are each +~180g and doing group rides with surges was not a good test. After a solo, the LTK is showing how comfortable, responsive, and confidence-inspiring it is. OK, enough from me now. Excited to see other people's builds and just chime in if people have issues. Long term review next year.

oker_s

Update after slamming the stem to match my previous bike's position, and doing a 90 minute solo where I could really pay attention to feel. This was an object lesson in how much fit matters. I didn't realize how uncomfortable I was with the extra 30mm of spacer stack and how much that was affecting my sense of the bikes handling.

As I settle in and get used to the LTK266-D-SL, it is starting to wow me. The only thing I'm missing right now is a certain snap of acceleration, and I attribute that almost entirely to the change in tires. If it had 30mm GP5k mounted instead of these Michelin Pro5 35mm comfy boys, I doubt it would miss a beat. Having tires that are each +~180g and doing group rides with surges was not a good test. After a solo, the LTK is showing how comfortable, responsive, and confidence-inspiring it is. OK, enough from me now. Excited to see other people's builds and just chime in if people have issues. Long term review next year.

Looks great except for the water bottles. They bother my inner monk.
How tall are you and what's your inseam? A 130mm stem is pretty decent!

I actually wanted to order the Longteng cockpit as well, since it's relatively cheap, but it's only available in 90*380 or 100*400.
I think at 1.80m, I'll need a 100!
Oh yeah, I was in touch with Alisa today, and apparently they have the right headset for the frame now! I asked her about the two problem cases here!

Now I just have to decide on my design! Either Scott-like or with a purple touch!