VoiceVelo Echo (aero frame)

[Samuel BMR]

Price for the light version is 9980Y which is like 1250€ ?!?! Seems veeeeeeery cheap

[Inndoors]

I asked if they had any deals for 11.11. Messages read but no reply. Same for Black Friday. Still eyeing the frame but the lack of even a “no” does rise some concerns if something were to go wrong with the frame.

[crwlv888]

I bought it from an authorized reseller on Taobao, so any problems should be resolved. VFV's official website hasn't been updated in a long time, so they probably aren't checking emails anymore.

[aeroquest]

Size XL56, Ultegra 12s Di2, and YOELEO QIANKUN CS60, weighing 7.5kg in the photos, are pretty good for an aerodynamic road bike. The build quality is decent, except for some minor paint imperfections (not visible after assembly). The handlebar decals have air bubbles, which looks a bit unsightly.

And where did you buy it? Can you share a link?
How would you rate the rigidity and comfort of this model?

[crwlv888]

The weather has been pretty bad lately, so I haven't had a chance to give it a proper ride yet.

Perceived stiffness really depends on rider weight, power output, road conditions, and distance.
That said, a lack of stiffness is rarely an issue with modern carbon road bikes.

Also, this frame has clearance for up to 35c tires, so comfort definitely shouldn't be a concern.

I bought it from the first store. There are also two other stores that sell it.
(You might need a TAOBAO account to view this.)

1. https://tinyurl.com/4fjcmh8b

2. https://tinyurl.com/2p9r64db

3. https://tinyurl.com/5yu47rkm

[aeroquest]

Eeee https://www.pandapodium.cc/product/voicevelo-vfv-echo-aero-road-bike-frameset/
1400$

[brembilla]

From Bruce at VV. Prices include shipping but not import fees and tariffs. He said they declare as low as possible by default.

[aeroquest]

Ordered 

[StorTre]

Love the looks of the frame, was very impressed by the quality on my VFV Seatpost. It’s too bad they didn’t make some larger sizes.

[Takiyaki]

Would be nice to see geometry chart. Will be very disappointed to see another well made original frame with stupidly short stack and long reach.

What do you consider short stack and long reach?

Also bear in mind geometry changes substantially with STA.

Personally I would love more reach. Running a 130mm-140mm stem is what dialed my fit in.

[TurboKlemi]

I don't get it. Why is this aero frame cheaper than their gravel frame. On panda podium the gravel frame G-major is 2100$ and this new ECHO is 1400-1700$?

[Serge_K]

I don't get it. Why is this aero frame cheaper than their gravel frame. On panda podium the gravel frame G-major is 2100$ and this new ECHO is 1400-1700$?

Panda podium commissions. You can expect joe charges a LOT.

[Lotnik]

Panda podium commissions. You can expect joe charges a LOT.

Both prices are from PP Road frame came out much cheaper.

[aeroquest]

What do you consider short stack and long reach?

Also bear in mind geometry changes substantially with STA.

Personally I would love more reach. Running a 130mm-140mm stem is what dialed my fit in.

On PP, I was told that a 3D-printed adapter is needed to use a custom stem. Are you planning to use a separate stem?

[crwlv888]

The headset is based on the FSA ACR standard and doesn't have a special design, so it should be compatible with many headsets.