Winspace M6

[alfiomotrambo]

Hi everyone,

I’m opening this thread because I haven’t seen any discussion about it here yet.

Has anyone already bought the M6 frame? the price seems low compared to other Winspace model

Hopefully we can collect some information about the M6 here 🙂

Thanks!

[belgischer_kreisel]

Sorry to not add anything substantial, but it's Winspace, not Windspace

[alfiomotrambo]

my bad, in my head it sounds better with a d haha

[patliean1]

Winspace positions the M6 as their 3rd-tier frameset. You would think this was their new flagship bike based on the amount of money and energy they've put into the marketing rollout and press release.

Smart move by pricing it $1499. Basically undercutting everyone including themselves. And the geometry is closer to the original T1500. I don't just understand the 3rd-tier aspect.

[koubek94]

They said its 8,9w more aerodynamic but compare to what? And finally they make xxl first bike i could buy almost every other model has stack that is too low for me.

[Serge_K]

The stupidity of the marketing claims is full on "please piss on my intelligence" territory.

[Dareios]

A smaller German magazin (Roadbike) actually tested it alongside the Tarvelo Arrow and the Seka Spear.

Apparently the deep fork makes it more susceptible to crosswinds when paired with 50mm deep wheels.

[BikeLab]

A smaller German magazin (Roadbike) actually tested it alongside the Tarvelo Arrow and the Seka Spear.

Apparently the deep fork makes it more susceptible to crosswinds when paired with 50mm deep wheels.

And what were the results?

[Cnasta]

With socks that short, and sunglasses under the helmet strap, I'm not sure I'd take the test serious 

[Dareios]

And what were the results?

With socks that short, and sunglasses under the helmet strap, I'm not sure I'd take the test serious 

No aero testing, only stiffness, frame weight and comfort vs Seka Spear, the new Rose Shave and Tavelo Arrow.

Frame Weight: Seka 812g, Rose 904, Tarvelo 1002g, Winspace 1041g.
Headtube stiffness (in Nm per degree of flex): Rose 81. Winspace 79, Tavelo 66, Seka 48
BB stiffness: Rose 114 N/mm, Winspace 109 N/mm, Tavelo 90 N/mm, Seka 64 N/mm.
Comfort rear triangle + seatpost: Seka 167 N/mm, Rose 220 N/mm, Winspace 319 N/mm, Tavelo 331 N/mm

Given the fact that it is a small mag I'd take the exact values with a pinch of salt, but it looks like the Winspace is a stiff racebike, with comfort not being it's greatest strength. Apparently it's a reactive bike and easy to handle, but the deep fork + Winspace 50 wheels are susceptible to crosswinds.

[BeR]

They said its 8,9w more aerodynamic but compare to what? And finally they make xxl first bike i could buy almost every other model has stack that is too low for me.

Against the C5 aero.

[shan]

Winspace positions the M6 as their 3rd-tier frameset. You would think this was their new flagship bike based on the amount of money and energy they've put into the marketing rollout and press release.

Smart move by pricing it $1499. Basically undercutting everyone including themselves. And the geometry is closer to the original T1500. I don't just understand the 3rd-tier aspect.

Winspace got high on their own stuff after first mover success and started asking crazy high prices for their products. Seems like literally created a new product to undercut themselves in order to stay competitive to up and coming chinese brands.

[panel]

Just a bump to see if there has been anyone else building or riding the M6 ?

[patliean1]

A buddy of mine here told me yesterday he finally received his M6 frameset earlier in the week.

Dude is a total stud as well. 6'3" 210lbs. Can confirm his low Z2 is my Z3 lol. He ordered a size XXL. He's coming from a Canyon Endurance CF and said that price w/ handlebars for the M6 was too good of a deal to pass up. He's stoked.

I bring this up because as I've always said, 6 years of reviewing Chinese bikes and I can still really only convince Chicago folks to invest in Winspace. The only exception very recently now is Tavelo and QuickPro. You will now find all 3 brands at every local crit race here.

Truthfully though having both YouTuber influencers and organizing race club validate these brands puts a lot of confidence in the average buyer. Buyers who aren't on the forums.

[adam900710]

On taobao there is only full bike, no dedicated frameset for M6:

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=1028781813237

But at least the full bike price is way more reasonable than their recent frames. The SLC3 frameset itself is almost the same price as the whole M6 bike with 105 di2.

I used to consider Winspace frameset when SLC2 was still available, but nowadays I consider Winspace/Quick/SEKA as semi-western brands.
All kinds of sponsorships, high pricing (some times even higher than Giant), exotic aero designs.