Author Topic: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance  (Read 6459 times)

lucasv

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2026, 09:21:31 AM »
The frame in the photo isn't the ICAN A54, though, right?

AI slop given my wheels and the frame shape

lucasv

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2026, 09:23:15 AM »
They can and will do anything as long as you are willing to pay for. Their paint quality is pretty good to be honest.

I am really struggling to see the reason for ppl to be going for these VERY aggressive frames. I mean for the pros, sure, but for the rest of us????

I mean it's a pretty similar geo to any other race bike. Not sure who you're including in "rest of us"

Sakizashi

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2026, 09:46:37 AM »
Going to preface this by saying I probably won't be getting this frame as I have the LTK266D-SL already as a test bike, and this bike doesn't do much that one can't other than be slightly more aero. This bike definitely needs the same kind of thread, though. As is, it looks like most people will need to convert to run a different bar/stem setup. There are also going to be a lot of challenges getting good info on tire clearance and saddle placement.

On the bar/stem front. This frame appears to use the "standard" 8.7mm bearing seat depth. This means that headset solutions from FSA, Deda, Token, Enve, Cane Creek, etc should all fit fine. Some of the lower-cost ICR headsets, like those from Neco, may not fit, as those use a 6mm depth. For bar compatibility, though, perhaps the more important thing is that it uses a circular headset cover, so the covers / c-rings that come with many bars are likely to fit and look good (not a comment on whether they are good quality or will work well).

As for geometry, the human body is complex, and there are definitely flat-back positions that work really well for people with good hip mobility but lower back issues. Those same people would find a more upright position to be uncomfortable. I think it's high time that we start to think about bike positions as requiring the right stack, not just higher or lower. That said, this specific sizing scheme is odd because it generally suggests that smaller riders rely on length to get the right back angle, while larger riders rely on drop. However, to counter the argument that people need more spacers, they then raised the stack, so the reach numbers get pulled in on the longer sizes while the wheelbase continues to grow.

I also question if this geometry chart is right; it looks like there are some reach/wheelbase numbers that would benefit from more scrutiny.

Overall, very interesting frame and I look forward to seeing some built up.

Bonus79

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2026, 10:25:11 AM »
AI slop given my wheels and the frame shape

Just as I imagined...I noticed several details that differ from the original ICAN A54 frame.  ;)

crazyravr

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2026, 01:00:02 PM »
Placed an order last week. Should arrive end of Nov. Just in time for winter lol
Ordering process and customization was done via WhatsApp and received all the info I asked for and got help with pain customizing.
Will report back once I have something in my hands.

This is not the first time I was dealing with ICAN. Couple yeas back I got their 52mm wheelset and is still going strong.

lucasv

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2026, 02:58:23 PM »
I also ordered this frame on Aug 27 in size L with custom painting. Total price was 1211 USD with shipping to USA:
Frame and handlebars: $730
Custom paint: $230
Shipping: $197
PayPal goods & services: $54

They told me 2-4 weeks for custom painting, so I’m just entering that window now.

Takiyaki

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2026, 03:55:07 PM »

I am really struggling to see the reason for ppl to be going for these VERY aggressive frames. I mean for the pros, sure, but for the rest of us????
People are built differently.......... Im running a 140mm stem on a typical geometry 55cm frameset. Im 175cm with a ~185cm wingspan, so I need extra reach. Just comes down to what fit people need. I do feel like bike makers need to offer extra sizes, at least in that ~52-56cm range.

patliean1

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #52 on: September 14, 2026, 04:44:28 PM »
I can't for the life of me understand why individuals get so wrapped in other folks' bike fit and frame selections. Especially if the rider hasn't expressed any discomfort or pain in their current setup.

There are just far too many variables from rider to rider to make such a blanket statement.

Serge_K

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #53 on: September 15, 2026, 08:34:12 AM »
Clearance is 35+6.2+6.2mm at the rear (and prob a tad more at the front). There was confusion, and there were mistakes in previous versions of the CAD design. The attached is as per Crystal, today.
So, 39+4.2+4.2
39.4+4+4 (ISO, afaik)
40+3.7+3.7
41+3.2+3.2
...
« Last Edit: September 15, 2026, 08:40:56 AM by Serge_K »

Sakizashi

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #54 on: September 15, 2026, 08:58:17 AM »
Clearance is 35+6.2+6.2mm at the rear (and prob a tad more at the front). There was confusion, and there were mistakes in previous versions of the CAD design. The attached is as per Crystal, today.
So, 39+4.2+4.2
39.4+4+4 (ISO, afaik)

This is pretty great. There are a few brands, like 3T, that would advertise this as a 38 or 39mm clearance bike using tat ISO "racing bicycle" carve out of the standard.

Could you ask them if any of the other frame dimensions were updated? If so, also ask for an updated geo chart?

BeR

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2026, 09:41:00 AM »
Clearance is 35+6.2+6.2mm at the rear (and prob a tad more at the front). There was confusion, and there were mistakes in previous versions of the CAD design. The attached is as per Crystal, today.
So, 39+4.2+4.2
39.4+4+4 (ISO, afaik)
40+3.7+3.7
41+3.2+3.2
...

For your information, the clearance is the same for all the sizes.

BFBS

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2026, 05:45:10 PM »
I can't for the life of me understand why individuals get so wrapped in other folks' bike fit and frame selections. Especially if the rider hasn't expressed any discomfort or pain in their current setup.

There are just far too many variables from rider to rider to make such a blanket statement.
Agreed and they ignore the STA. The Ridley Noah Fast has 399mm reach in XS but an STA of 76 degree. A steeper STA leads to the reach number getting higher without the effective reach getting longer.
And if you’ve long torso/short legs these ‘aggressive’ geometries aren’t aggressive.
Anyways will the eSTA seems to be quite high on this frame at least in S, the question is just how long you can extend the Seatpost

oker_s

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #57 on: Today at 07:16:42 AM »
i wrote my contact at ican "peggy" today. she said she cant offer me the frame cause its just for resellers. She answered i need to contact other persons. Which persons do you contact? And whats der mail/whatsapp whatever?

Serge_K

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #58 on: Today at 07:33:18 AM »
i wrote my contact at ican "peggy" today. she said she cant offer me the frame cause its just for resellers. She answered i need to contact other persons. Which persons do you contact? And whats der mail/whatsapp whatever?

Peggy just pegged you.
Peggy the peg.
Pegging Peggy.

Was that helpful? No. I'm sorry.

BeR

Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
« Reply #59 on: Today at 08:06:03 AM »
i wrote my contact at ican "peggy" today. she said she cant offer me the frame cause its just for resellers. She answered i need to contact other persons. Which persons do you contact? And whats der mail/whatsapp whatever?

Ask to Melody, She can sells you the frame.

I have no idea why They don't share the same speech.