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Other Resources => Component Deals & Selection => Topic started by: RhubarbChrisP on November 11, 2024, 09:16:37 AM
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https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKn0A9E
Has anyone tried these? Looks like more opportunity for flex/comfort which would be nice. However, tolerances would have to be pretty tight to minimize slipping, especially with the one bolt design and carbon on carbon friction holding things in place.
Don't know if I want to be a Guinea pig for almost $100 CAD but if others have good experiences it might be worth a try on my road or Gravel bike
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That thing is wacky! I'd be interested to hear if this thing fails or not. Having just had a chiner carbon seatpost crack on me while riding, I'd definitely not like to be the guinea pig.
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The idea of that thing failing is too painful for me to consider lol
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That thing is wacky! I'd be interested to hear if this thing fails or not. Having just had a chiner carbon seatpost crack on me while riding, I'd definitely not like to be the guinea pig.
could be tested on an indoor bike?
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The idea of that thing failing is too painful for me to consider lol
As a bonus, looks like any splinters from the seat post going Vlad Tepes on you don't show up well in medical imagery.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3520196/ (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3520196/)
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I will be fair, though, and say that I have 1 Elita One seat post that seems to have held up so far and I'm happy with. I ordered another to put on my other bike. So... here's hoping they know what they're doing.
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Elita one is a legendary weight weeny on budget item akin to another no brainer Aliexpress item, the Uno stem. Both of these are on all of my bikes and usually the first thing I switch to when I aquire a new bike.
This new type may not be too bad since they are known for it. I wish it was cheaper. At $55+ it's nearly triple the price of good old Elita one. A little too much for me to experiment.
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Elita One seat posts are legit. My current round Elita One seat post is incredibly snug, but because of the tight fit I don't need to over-torque the clamp. No issues whatsoever.
This master post looks cool, I might consider it.
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I have elitaime too on my bikes but round tubing is a lot easier to make than that fancy flexi thing
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And the biggest plus of og elita one seatpost is two bolts seat clamp. All one bolt seat clamps failed on me after some time
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Anyone with experience with these now that they've been out a few months?
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I ended getting one for my HT MTB and I think it does have some dampening properties, I like it. Still a bit worried about it breaking
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You could always buy the original from THM for $700. Doubt its more robust.https://www.thm.bike/en/seatposts/mandibula-88.html
But I wouldn't use it on a mtb. For road use likely fine.
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I wonder how it compares to the Canyon VCLS/Ergon leafspring seatpost https://ergonbike.shop/collections/seat-post/products/cf-allroad-pro-carbon-setback
Does any Aliexpress brand make something similar? Would love to add some compliance without breaking the bank...
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Re vcls clone-There used to be a bunch. I had two of them fail at the upper clamp area, stay away.
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I pulled the trigger on the Elita One Master seat post. It came up on Early Bird special for $23 USD and I wanted a °5 degree seat post anyways. I'll report back when I get it and hopefully I don't get shish kebab'ed! ;D
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That’s a a great price! I paid 47 I think
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That’s a a great price! I paid 47 I think
I think I looked at it so much on AliEx, it finally just gave me a cheaper price I couldn't resist! Damn algorithms! ;D
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Did a quick test today on a new build I am breaking in. Seatpost worked fine. When I was initially building my new setup a small crack of the cosmetic layer made a small noise, contacted Elita and they said not to worry about it and would replace it if need be. Initial parcel was sent with the wrong internals but was quickly corrected by Elita. Will try to give a full review in a few weeks. Must say it looks amazing. Can't comment on the compliance, its feels as solide as my previous Thompson Elite.
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Did a quick test today on a new build I am breaking in. Seatpost worked fine. When I was initially building my new setup a small crack of the cosmetic layer made a small noise, contacted Elita and they said not to worry about it and would replace it if need be. Initial parcel was sent with the wrong internals but was quickly corrected by Elita. Will try to give a full review in a few weeks. Must say it looks amazing. Can't comment on the compliance, its feels as solide as my previous Thompson Elite.
Hmmm can you show a picture of this cosmetic crack? Seems a bit concerning despite Eliza’s reassurances.
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Hmmm can you show a picture of this cosmetic crack? Seems a bit concerning despite Eliza’s reassurances.
this might be the best or closest to ergon one:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005897848712.html
and it should be easier to clamp, im looking for something similiar as you
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this might be the best or closest to ergon one:
here you go
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005008095067184.html
I have one, had to sand it down to fit the seattube, it's prone to slippage, and it only takes oval rails. then again it held up for a few years now and does flex. For the same price I just bought a used genuine canyon one tho, so I wouldn't buy again. I have that lexon too, hassle free, if I wasn't invested already, I'd probably buy the elita one.
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here you go
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005008095067184.html
I have one, had to sand it down to fit the seattube, it's prone to slippage, and it only takes oval rails. then again it held up for a few years now and does flex. For the same price I just bought a used genuine canyon one tho, so I wouldn't buy again. I have that lexon too, hassle free, if I wasn't invested already, I'd probably buy the elita one.
How does the lexon compare compare to the canyon one? Are the copies even close or worth it?
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How does the lexon compare compare to the canyon one? Are the copies even close or worth it?
I have just fitted the Lexon seatpost to a new bike, but haven't put significant miles on it, yet.
The Lexon very much is a regular seatpost, while the Canyon / Ergon seatpost has a significant amount of flex in it - from a comfort perspective the Lexon is nowhere near the Canony / Ergon design.
I also bought a Elita One Master, but have not mounted it to a bike, at all.
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I have just fitted the Lexon seatpost to a new bike, but haven't put significant miles on it, yet.
The Lexon is very much is a regular seatpost, while the Canyon / Ergon seatpost has a significant amount of flex in it - from a comfort perspective the Lexon is nowhere near the Canony / Ergon design.
I also bought a Elita One Master, but have not mounted it to a bike, at all.
The lexon one claims it helps with vibrations. I plan on doing a 10k tour but it might be worth getting the real thing or even the red shift one for my case but nice to see other options.
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I've been riding my Master seat post for the last week with no issues. The one bolt clamping mechanism is actually quite stable. The circular rail clamps produce equal compression forces making the whole thing sturdy. In terms of ride quality, it's barely noticeable, so I'm guessing it's doing the job of dampening vibration. I also made sure to add carbon paste and greased the bolt.
I will still have to ride it for awhile to see how the carbon holds up, but so far it feels quite good. :)
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Oh well, my review will have to wait, just completely tore my Achilles tendon.. see you in a year :(
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Sorry to read that, wishing you a speedy and full recovery
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Oh well, my review will have to wait, just completely tore my Achilles tendon.. see you in a year :(
Damn, how'd you do that? The older I get, the more I worry about small injuries taking me out!
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Condolences to your achilles, those injuries tend to be caused by just about nothing at all.
I recently recieved an Elita Master with offset for a build i am planning, and it looks just great. As a note, they've so blatantly copied the THM product down to the manual. What they've really done a bad job with is the half-shells clamping the seat inside the circle, they're just a little crude and i think i was unlucky - even over-torquing it won't secure the half-shells properly within the circle for me, so in order to mount the seat at all i will have to fill in the space with some thick adhesive tape and carbon paste. Unfortunately buyer protection has expired so i won't bother to refund it, seems like broken seatpost carbon splinters lodged in my behind is somewhere in my future.
As an additional note, i just recently discovered the Elita One rebranded as an THM Mandibula post at about double the price (~$80), even though it seems to be the same product. Looking at this listing it seems to use one additional screw which Elita One doesn't seem to use.
It now also comes in "chameleon" color. Listing here, still available at early bird at time of writing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008784168988.html
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Did you get the proper inserts, I am asking as I got the wrong ones on the first delivery and the post was sliding no matter what.. They kindly sent another one and apologized.. all good now and thanks for the kinds words.. tear occurred playing tennis,, will stick to road bike for now
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Did you get the proper inserts, I am asking as I got the wrong ones on the first delivery and the post was sliding no matter what.. They kindly sent another one and apologized.. all good now and thanks for the kinds words.. tear occurred playing tennis,, will stick to road bike for now
Oh thanks! I will contact them and ask. Best of luck with your rehabilitation.
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I just received the 25 mm setback version. The carbon quality looks very good, although I always wish that the bolts were steel instead of aluminum for better durability. But I guess that's not what people buying a carbon post is looking for. The lettering that indicates minimum insertion is not straight, but the rest of the indicators are parallel to the post.
The clamp mechanism is 2 half carbon cylinders. Because of this the top clamp sticks out a little bit. The post is not compatible with all seats, in particular, the seats where there is a fold right over the rails. My SMP F20c fits but I could not clamp onto the very front of the rails (because the fold over the seat runs into the top clamp). If you run a more flat saddle you probably won't run into this issue. I appreciate that they included 7x7 and 7x9 rails.
It does have a great amount of fore/aft flex. Seems pretty comfortable. I weigh 60kg.
I probably wouldn't buy another another seatpost with this clamp design though, for the reasons I mentioned above.
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I always wish that the bolts were steel instead of aluminum for better durability.
The bolt is supposed to be titanium, which should be just fine.
The clamp mechanism is 2 half carbon cylinders. Because of this the top clamp sticks out a little bit.
That's very useful info, as this is really easy to overlook.
Personally, I'd have no qualms chamfering the top half a little if it did poke out under the seat (assuming it'd fit height-wise in the first place). Nothing crazy, just taking the edge of, so to speak.
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So I had a bit of an interesting event yesterday during an Xterra race: on a landing of a jump down a pretty fast trail, I was ended up landing on the seat with quite a lot of energy, and the saddle was pointing 30 degrees up, easily. It was so loud that I thought I had broken the seat post, so rode for about 2km like that without looking at it. My first thought was “at least I didn’t get carbon splinter up my ass”.on a flat section, realizing I had another 3km to go, I reached for it to try and feel the crack (in the carbon), realized that maybe it wasn’t broken! I stopped, and everything was ok, hammered the saddle in position(ish) with my fist and I got going again.
Then after the race I was thinking, maybe the saddle locking system is a feature rather than a flaw, the way it rotated helped dissipate energy that the seat post would have had to absorb otherwise and maybe led to failure…
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So I had a bit of an interesting event yesterday during an Xterra race: on a landing of a jump down a pretty fast trail, I was ended up landing on the seat with quite a lot of energy, and the saddle was pointing 30 degrees up, easily. It was so loud that I thought I had broken the seat post, so rode for about 2km like that without looking at it. My first thought was “at least I didn’t get carbon splinter up my ass”.on a flat section, realizing I had another 3km to go, I reached for it to try and feel the crack (in the carbon), realized that maybe it wasn’t broken! I stopped, and everything was ok, hammered the saddle in position(ish) with my fist and I got going again.
Then after the race I was thinking, maybe the saddle locking system is a feature rather than a flaw, the way it rotated helped dissipate energy that the seat post would have had to absorb otherwise and maybe led to failure…
You thought correctly.
The saddle locking system must collapse before unload the force on the seatpost "stick"!
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Well it worked, the noise it made was really really loud! I was convinced I broke it.
I need to take it appart to make sure there was no damages. I also need to look if I can put the lock bolt facing down so it can be accessed with the hex key from the top, through the saddle opening/cut-out rather than having to remove the saddle bag. I may not always be able to hammer fist it back in place
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For those who bought it, any updates on the comfort on the seat post, does it do a great job dampen vibrations?
Thinking about ordering the straight/zero setback one and would appreciate any opinions.
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On the MTB, hardtail, I perceived a good bit of extra comfort but placebo effect or not, hard to say
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For those who bought it, any updates on the comfort on the seat post, does it do a great job dampen vibrations?
Thinking about ordering the straight/zero setback one and would appreciate any opinions.
I've been riding mine on the gravel bike for several weeks. At first I didn't think the design didn't do anything special, but I rode my other gravel bike with a standard Elita One seat post and it did feel a bit stiffer. So I think the design does slightly dampen road buzz. I've had no issues with the saddle clamp using a RYET Arcode saddle with the T40 mesh.
At this point, if you can find one at a good price, I highly recommend it now. ;)
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Well it worked, the noise it made was really really loud! I was convinced I broke it.
I need to take it appart to make sure there was no damages. I also need to look if I can put the lock bolt facing down so it can be accessed with the hex key from the top, through the saddle opening/cut-out rather than having to remove the saddle bag. I may not always be able to hammer fist it back in place
Took it apart, all looked fine. I have now the bolt facing down and accessible from the top for quick tightening/adjustement. I am still unsure if that seat post is really a good choice from MTB, maybe more of a gravel option.
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I could be missing a trick here, but I found it really frustrating to set a precise saddle tilt angle with this seat post. As I tightened the single bolt, the angle kept changing (the saddle tilted further to the back). So I ended up with a trial-and-error approach, where I loosened the bolt, tilted the saddle forward more than I wanted, tightened up the bolt, and checked what the final angle was. Took a number of attempts to get it to where I wanted.
With the two-bolt design of the regular Elita One seat post (and from many other brands), I can just alternate between tightening the front and the rear bolt until I get the angle I want. I know this is not following the instructions from Elita One, but it worked for me with their regular seat posts.
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I tighten it quite a bit, adjust with some amount of force and then torq it down
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For those who bought it, any updates on the comfort on the seat post, does it do a great job dampen vibrations?
Thinking about ordering the straight/zero setback one and would appreciate any opinions.
mine cracked
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mine cracked
That sucks! Did it crack under normal riding conditions?
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That sucks! Did it crack under normal riding conditions?
Yeah I only noticed because it started creaking. One side has a hairline crack, otherside has a big crack with layer separation.
I am trying to get a refund from ali, but I assume they will not give me one. Aliexpress listing never actually advertised a warranty
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Did you get the proper inserts, I am asking as I got the wrong ones on the first delivery and the post was sliding no matter what.. They kindly sent another one and apologized.. all good now and thanks for the kinds words.. tear occurred playing tennis,, will stick to road bike for now
This is interesting to hear, because the same thing was happening to me and I couldn't figure out why it was sliding no matter what. So you just sent a message explaining that it was always sliding and they sent you a new set of inserts and bolts?
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I picked up another Master seat post, but this time without the hollowed out base. I had no issue with my previous Master post, so I chanced it with this version. The seat post clamp setup has grown on me due to the ease of adjustment. I just make sure it's torqued to at least 8nm to minimize any slippage.
(https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808818659364.html)
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Just reporting some long term feedback with the Master Post with hollowed out clamp base. Recently on some rough single track trails, I did get minor carbon clamp movement at 8nm. When I got home, I increased it to 9nm. I'll see how that will hold on my next outing. Though on the same ride, another rider's Specialized carbon saddle rails broke off on the same trail! We had to strap his saddle bag to the top seat post to avoid an unpleasant accident. So yeah, AliExpress RYET saddles for the win! ;)
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I picked up another Master seat post, but this time without the hollowed out base. I had no issue with my previous Master post, so I chanced it with this version. The seat post clamp setup has grown on me due to the ease of adjustment. I just make sure it's torqued to at least 8nm to minimize any slippage.
(https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808818659364.html)
Have you used it on gravel, does it dampen the vibrations?
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I have had one of these arrive, ready for a new gravel build I'm putting together. First impressions are good. Looking forward to trying it when the frame arrives.
For context I'm 90kgs & its going on a Gravel build.
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Just reporting some long term feedback with the Master Post with hollowed out clamp base. Recently on some rough single track trails, I did get minor carbon clamp movement at 8nm. When I got home, I increased it to 9nm. I'll see how that will hold on my next outing. Though on the same ride, another rider's Specialized carbon saddle rails broke off on the same trail! We had to strap his saddle bag to the top seat post to avoid an unpleasant accident. So yeah, AliExpress RYET saddles for the win! ;)
On a gravel ride 2 weeks ago, I had my regular Elita One post snap in half after hitting a big drop. In fairness, I think I may have over-torqued the seatpost clamp a few months ago. I thought it would have had an issue sooner than this, so I assumed it was fine. In reality, it was fine until it got a massive bump. Even then, it broke with an incredibly loud "snap". I was pretty far from civilization, but I was able to shove about 0.75in of post into the frame and it could hold my weight on smooth road. I rode that very carefully back (about 30mi) until I snapped off completely just short of the end of the ride.
I don't really blame Elita One, I think it was my own stupidity that did it.
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Guess i could update on a situation i mentioned earlier in this thread, that it seemed impossible to fasten a regular round rail seat on it. Seems i got the wrong inserts as well, even though they were branded as 7x7 they would only take an oval rail 7x9 seat, which sat nicely.
Been using it on my road bike at the tail end of the season, got around 200km on it, it looks nice and is fairly comfortable. Can't say i felt any vibration dampening and i wouldn't expect too much of that anyway. Mainly roads and has seen some rough asphalt, it's a new build so still getting settled and getting to know the bike.
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Can the Elita Master post be flipped for negative setback? I'm considering the 5mm setback version if I can run it in -5mm mode.
My saddle is as forward as it goes on a 0 setback post now, it also has a wider clamp which limits the movement (Yoeleo proflex). I don't need to move it much more forward anymore but would like to clamp it closer to the middle.
The Canyon S15 post allows -10 setback which I'm also considering but it's expensive.
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Can the Elita Master post be flipped for negative setback? I'm considering the 5mm setback version if I can run it in -5mm mode.
My saddle is as forward as it goes on a 0 setback post now, it also has a wider clamp which limits the movement (Yoeleo proflex). I don't need to move it much more forward anymore but would like to clamp it closer to the middle.
The Canyon S15 post allows -10 setback which I'm also considering but it's expensive.
It's a round seat post. There's nothing stopping you from reversing the orientation. ;)
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Yeah I know just wondering if the clamp works the same when it's in a different angle.
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Answering to myself the seat post works great in -5mm setback mode. My saddle is no longer all the way slammed forward. The clamp is holding well at 8nm with carbon paste.
I've done a few fast rides on bumpy snow paths and no movement or sounds. The post has some flex about the same as Yoeleo proflex seat post it replaced but definitely less than Roval Terra.