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Re: ICAN triaero A9 Finally finished..
Tomorrow morning I will ride it..
April 01, 2021, 03:55:32 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda CFR515-D Shipment 1 week, price Frame allin in was 1000$, full Build 2700$ wirh 105
Di2 and carbon Rims. Frame is great, first ride was fast!
December 10, 2022, 12:47:17 AM 		1
Re: Yishunbike R1058-D @Goe @curvenut

Pic below. The build went smooth. I only struggled to get the Di2 cable through the chainstay, but that was because the guide tubes were removed before painting. Other than that, no issues whatsoever.

@neobiker For me, they usually reply after 1-2 days, expect during holidays. What exactly are you asking them about?
June 21, 2023, 05:48:25 AM 		1
ICAN A40 Build Hello dear Chinertown community!

I became aware of this forum in June because I wanted a new road bike but was not prepared to pay the high prices of the mainstream.
I've learned a lot, discussed a lot and even shared a tip or two.
Now I would like to present you my first build, which I finalised the day before yesterday.
The first real ride will take place tomorrow. So far, it's only been a short adjustment ride of 15 km. Everything feels good and round.

In this thread (http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4254.msg46760.html#msg46760) I was looking for tips for my first build.
After a long search through the forum and various manufacturers, I came across the ICAN A40 (identical in construction to the Cinelli Pressure), which I finally ordered.

Here I was looking for the right wheels (http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4325.msg49032.html#msg49032 . A separate thread about the wheels can now be found here: http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4444.msg50685.html#msg50685 )


...and this is what has now emerged:

Specifications (all prices rounded up):
Frame incl. stem steering unit, headset, seatpost etc... (800 euros incl. tax and shipping).
+ custom paint (200 euros)
shifting group incl. crank... etc... (Ultegra DI2 2x11 - 8050/8070 version - except chain and cassette and junction box, bought separately on ebay classifieds (used) - total approx. 700 Euro - parts look like new)
Chain, cassette (11-30) and junction box (for in the handlebar plugs) NEW - 150 Euro
Wheels: Elite Edge Disc 65 mm (500 Euro incl. tax and shipping)
GP5000 tyres, 28 mm (I still had used ones at home)
Carbon saddle (26 Euro / AliExpress / https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32961988965.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.121.7a255c5fpus40b&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu)
Carbon bottle cage (14 Euro / AliExpress / https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005266348973.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.151.7a255c5fpus40b&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu )
Miscellaneous (hydraulic brake line, handlebar tape, internal line damping, cable ties, rim tape, Wahoo holder... etc. - all AliExpress) (approx. 50 Euro)


Currently still equipped with normal "heavy butyl hoses".
7.67 kg. Weight (without pedals, bottle cage and bike computer).
But will be changed to TPU tubes as soon as they arrive from the Far East.
Then we will be under 7.5 kg

Total price, even if I've forgotten something, under 2,500 euros (2,440 euros).

 8)
October 02, 2023, 04:47:26 AM 		1
Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame Here is some of my photos just to share around l.
Have not build it yet.

Want to check with you guys how you all stuff the DI2 battery at the seat post and make it stay?

This is my first time building a bike
December 22, 2023, 04:12:52 AM 		1
Re: Yishun R086-D Aero Road After 11 rides logging 650mi/1050km with 36 hours in the saddle...I can confidently and enthusiastically say THIS FRAME RIPS!

Rider Stats
Height: 175cm
Weight: 70kg
Inseam: 80cm
Saddle Height: 69cm

Bike Build
Frame: Yishun R086D 50cm (I normally ride a 54cm)
Cockpit: Yishun HB058 40cm Handlebars / ST062 130mm Stem (no spacers)
Components: SRAM Force AXS Hydraulic 48 x 10/28
Wheels: Elitewheels Drive 50D
Tires: Panaracer Agilest TLR 30mm with Muc-off sealant
Total Weight w/ Pedals: 7.7kg / 17lbs

Why the R086D?
As a road/crit/gravel racer, CdA is very important to me.  The vast majority of drag comes from our own body and let's be honest, modern road bikes have long since reached peak efficiency.  My parameters in order of importance: (1) geometry, (2) fit and finish, (3) looks, and (4) affordability/sustainability.

(1), (4), and mostly (3) are knowable prior to purchase. A quick note on (4), I race a lot of crits so spending top $$$$ on a brand name is a value proposition my psyche couldn't handle. As mentioned, modern layups have come a long way. We're in an era of diminishing returns.

When it comes to speed, an aero optimized position is the 2nd-most important facet and the R086's geometry is exactly what I was looking for. Many feel it's too aggressive and that may be true for the majority of riders but there are many that *do desire* to perform well on fast group rides or sportives. Marc Graveline, inventor/founder of one of worlds first aerometers cited an average 22 watt savings to an aero-optimized rider. The speed is there if you want it.

I logged rides of 4:28, 3:04, 6:06, 3:19, 8:24, and 4:09 hours over rough desert roads in New Mexico, USA and despite having back issues from a crash in October the R086D came through with flying colors in terms of comfort. I also did a 1:38 smashfest in a 3-man breakaway with most the time in the drops with no pain or discomfort (other than lactate).

Some footage to get a sense of geometry...

Hoods:



Drops:



I love its looks, the black matte finish is both fantastic and resilient. It's been suggested as an analog to the Canyon Aeroad but I think it also bears resemblance to a Pinarello. I was convinced someone else on this past Sunday's group ride had a Yishun and it was only after a meet-n-greet at a rest step did I determine it was actually a Pinarello (F or Dogma, not sure)...same matte finish (w/ black lettering), same speed-sniffer and flare at the top of the downtube.

Referring back to my parameters, we're left with - and let's face it, the elephant in the room when you're dealing with brands based in Xiamen (2) fit and finish. I'm happy to report the unit I received was flawless (wish I could say the same for the wheels). Caveats below notwithstanding, this bike was a pleasure to build. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised to find a friction-free headset cap without the need of a 0.25mm micro-shim that several had suggested in this thread.

Things to know:
1) Torque guess is as good as mine...
Don't bother looking for instructions in the box because there aren't any.  As other's have noted, only a few items have torque specs stamped on them but Dark17 was kind enough to reach out to Elitewheels to get some general guidelines. From there, it's a bit of trial and error. I initially set the seat post bolt to 9Nm only to have it slide but 11Nm did the trick. Similar issue with the handlebar clamp bolts.

And while I went ahead and stuck caps (A) into the rear/front derailleur and Di2 holes, I still have no idea what B and C were intended for.


2) Go Long!
The rear disc brake flat mount requires not 27mm...not 32mm...but 37mm bolts. I had to order a set and wait a few days.

3) Keep your head(set) straight
I had forgotten to apply carbon paste to the steerer tube so the headset/cable routing cap started skewing left.  While away from home for 2 weeks, I stuck in a rubber gasket for the time being and that did the trick until I could get home and apply the proper fix.  WARNING: Avoid the urge to over-torque if this happens to you. Apply paste, tighten the compression plug to around 6Nm, remove slack then tighten the clamp bolts to 6Nm and you should be fine.


4) Braze On, Braze Off
I made the silly mistake of assuming the braze on bolts were properly torqued from the factory and spent a good hour trying to figure out why my chain kept dropping.

Thank you to the many in this forum who bring awareness to the largely under-appreciated products that come out of the Red Dragon. Special shoutout to Patty who produces wonderful content and helps us all make informed decisions!

Edit 1/10/24 - Rehosted some images
January 10, 2024, 12:02:12 AM 		1
Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame My frame arrived on Friday and I built it up over the weekend.

First impressions are great, paint quality seems nice and internal finishing also looks nice.

Still waiting on Elitewheels Edge wheelset being delivered to finish properly.








February 27, 2024, 08:00:00 AM 		1
Re: Elves Falath EVO 2023 Bike build completed - just some tweaks needed on brakes.

Weight comes out at 6.8kg as pictured - set up for next few months with gears to get up Flanders hills.  Will probably put bigger ring and my Farsports 69mm tubs for summer (calm) days which will lose about 300g.

Will give a view on how it rides in next few weeks.
March 04, 2024, 11:42:26 AM 		1
Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame Hello,

just finished my build.
At first I wanted to build my bike around Hygge Model S frame. So I started to look for information about this frame and found this forum. After reading this forum and watching Pattys videos I decided to go for Velobuild VB-268.

I choose painted variant. Frame showed 1040 g on scales in size 58. I didn't waight rest of the stuff (fork, seat post and integrated handlebar).
I build my bike with 12sp Ultegra Di2 and Elite Edge wheels. Whole bike came out 8,2 kgs redy to ride  with pedals, bottle cages and computer mount. I saw bikes weighing 7,8 kg on this thread. I don't know how you manage to achieve a weight of less than 8 kg. Any advices on how to get the weight down?

Building a bike was pretty straight forward except brakes - I can't properly align calipersto get rid of rubbing.
April 13, 2024, 02:58:50 AM 		1
Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Took me a bit longer to make this post.  Overall experience has been really good.  The fit of everything was spot on. Full build came in at 15.2 lbs without pedals (size 52).  For being that light, I am also surprised at how stiff it feels in accelerations.  My order was handled well and had great communication. I really like the color but it is more purple than I expected, but it looks great.  You can see in the sunlight it has the orangish chameleon, but the purple is the dominant color. Paint selection was LCB-02HS. Current setup is gp5000 28mm, but have a second wheelset with 32mm gp5000. One bummer is the width of handlebar options.  I went with the 40 x 110 handlebar and I have been running narrower bars and would have selected narrower, if available.

I will quickly address some of the items on this thread:
My frame has a drain hole under the BB
I will say that the layup feels pretty thin below the bottle cage on the downtube.  It is a larger tube size, but the wall thickness feels thin.
Brake caliper mounts are faced
Rear thru axle does require more torque than other frames (but doesn't appear to be any thread damage, so I don't know, not really an issue to me, but a previous poster described this).

I had to cut the seat tube to get my fit right, but just 1/2" or so.
I also ran into an issue with the seatpost clamp.  After riding I needed to adjust, and upon retorque the clamp to 6nm something with the pins that hold the bolt broke.  I have contacted LC and will update with how quickly they respond.  I am pretty sure their clamp is a tried and true design across other frames, so I am not quite sure. I want to tear it apart to see whats going on but it is kind of a captive part.

May 13, 2024, 09:24:21 AM 		1