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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
I've just finished the bike and don't want to withhold the first pictures from you. If you like, I'll be happy to create a separate thread for the build, with decent pictures and what the riding impression is like. As it's a pretty wet winter here at the moment and I'm working until dark, I won't be able to start the first test drive until next weekend at the earliest January 06, 2024, 03:02:41 PM |
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Re: Seka Exceed RDC Broken Frames: Source of Concern?
How much do you weigh and how hard do you ride? Assuming you're not too light, from a risk / reward standpoint, buying a Chinese frame that's not the lightest means there will be more material everywhere. And it will likely be stiffer, which is a good thing up to a point. Although more recent frames (1 year or so) are all EPS foam moulded, which should mean a cleaner inside & better layer compression / adhesion. Which in turn should mean you can go with a lighter frame. I'm building my 9th Chinese frame in 2 years right now so i've handled a bike or 2. My Facteur (i'm trolling Factor) is a Long Teng and the other one is a Winow. It's early days (<500km) but so far I love the LT. Which looks a LOT like the 2024 velobuild (268). The Winow weighs c.7.6kg. Didn't weigh mine, probably the same or a bit less. I'm c.84kg and my FTP is somewhere between 275 & 300W, and I suck at sprinting. Because of that, I went with chunky frames, wasn't man enough to risk building a lightweight frame blind. The Facteur is stiff AF, the only things i can feel flex (when doing 800+W) are the tyres & the spokes on the front wheel (I went with steel & not carbon spokes because 1. cheaper but also 2. was afraid of excessive stiffness). February 19, 2024, 09:27:55 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
On Long Teng. Contact longtengalisa@163.com. I only have good things to say about the 268, i bought 2. full build with 32C 50+mm deep wheels is 7.5kg. The next frame i get is likely to be a 266 (for the mountains). So get a 266 and let me know how it is The gloss finish is awesome, depending on the light you can see the carbon below. The black matte is nice, but the gloss is super nice. i got 36cm bars from Airwolf, love them. Uber stiff. Allegedly full T1100. March 05, 2024, 11:53:47 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
New member here - I also have the same dilemma, and will share my thoughts.When i see all the flat sections on the 017-d i doubt this frame is having good aero performance. Down tube, seat tube and seat post are totally flat right in the airflow... About the reach/stack you must take account that frames need special spacer to ensure cable routing, thus you can add at least 1,5cm to 2 cm for real stack and 1cm less for reach. About workswell, they are not selling a lot for single customers. March 05, 2024, 02:20:30 PM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
From my emails with them, they offered these in size 52: I'm interested in anything Long Teng related. I'm super happy with mine, more than the 2 Winow i built at the same time. I like that they're a factory and not a broker like velobuild. My next bike will probably be a 266, so anything that's road, light, disc, and takes 32C, i'm interested in. And ask them to make 36cm bars so I dont have to source them separately On Workswell, i'd be careful. There are a few horror stories on the forum about them, and they're materially more expensive than a lot of peers, but i can't understand why. March 06, 2024, 02:35:06 PM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Of the Chinese open mold manufacturers, I only saw LightCarbon and Longteng. Velobuild didn’t attend. (And I didn’t see a presence from other Chinertown favorites like Elitewheels, Ltwoo, Winspace, Magene, etc.) But I did get to see the LC017 and the LT266 in person, and got some intel on a new LT301 that will be released in a few months:Nice one dude!! Especially finding a way to enter lol Maybe create a new topic about the bike show as a whole, to share all your photos/videos and prompt discussion on different models? Since this one is focused on LCR017 but it seems you got info on dif frames like the 301 to be launched. March 07, 2024, 06:43:47 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Just got back from the Taipei Bike Show You're a hero. Well done and thank you. Alisa is my sales rep at LT. That LT301 looks a LOT like the LT268 that I have, to the point that beyond the frame box, i'm not sure what's different. Weight i guess? Maybe manufacturing process? The whole "squares are stronger than tubes" sounds wrong. And those boxy tubes look like buses, and buses aren't aerodynamic. Weird. Aero frames always were about tear drop shapes with the tail cut out. Not a box exposed to the wind... Velobuild is a broker. Light Carbon & Long Teng are factories. Awesome to learn that LT makes Argon frames, that just upped my bragging rights. March 07, 2024, 10:05:28 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
You're a hero. Well done and thank you. Alisa is my sales rep at LT. That LT301 looks a LOT like the LT268 that I have, to the point that beyond the frame box, i'm not sure what's different. Weight i guess? Maybe manufacturing process? the tube is under an angle and there is a wheel infront of it. So while its certainly not aero optimised I think the penalty will be minimal, certainly if your not a pro March 08, 2024, 04:42:41 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Unless the bike is dedicated aero bike, square-ish down tube is fine. Cannondale SuperSix Evo 4 has square downtube as well, yet with Cannondale's own 50mm wheels and 2 piece handlebar it is on par or better with quite a few dedicated aero bikes.
March 08, 2024, 05:04:17 AM |
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Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
New forum member here, and starting a new thread after posting about this in a thread on the LightCarbon LCR017-D (https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4309.255.html). Couple of things: That fork design with the pronounced ridge on the fork blade is typical of VB and LT. Previously they've been very noodly - lateral stiffness is diabolical. There also seems to be some variance - usually VB are worse, and some VBs worse than others. Hopefully not the case here, but we'll see. Bit doubtful about 38 clearance. But it would be nice to have a nominally aero profile with that clearance. March 08, 2024, 05:51:31 AM |
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