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29er / Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« on: April 05, 2024, 02:09:01 AM »
The FM936 now has a UDH rear triangle? I know the ICAN S3 has UDH, but it doesn't use flex stays...

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29er / Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« on: March 22, 2024, 11:12:04 AM »
Is there anyone in this topic that has upgraded their rockerlink to 120mm, and wants to sell his old 100mm? I would like to reduce the travel in my frame to use with a 165x40 shock.

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29er / Re: SP-Cycle M06 build thread
« on: September 27, 2023, 09:46:23 AM »
It's one of the rare chinese carbon hardtails that has a reasonable modern geometry, so I am very curious how you like it.

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29er / Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« on: January 26, 2023, 01:50:23 AM »
New 120mm linkage installed.
The old linkage is on the left side of the pictures.
Awesome!
Can you measure the distance between the rocker-pivot and the other pivots for both?

Clearly it extends the rear wheel further now, so bottomout geometry is the same for both versions.
The tiny bit higher dynamic ride height might be beneficial for this frame, with its low BB and slack headangle.

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26er & 27.5 (650b) / Re: Monsuta x Snacks AM831 build
« on: October 22, 2021, 05:59:04 AM »
Looks nice! How do you prevent pedal strikes when using the smaller wheels in a 29er frame?

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29er / Re: Full Suspension WCB-M-108 / LCFS902 / CS-821 Experience?
« on: February 25, 2017, 04:54:18 AM »
Is it possible to run the right hand rear shift cable on the left side of the frame for internal cabeling?
Yup, the shifter cables are free floating in the tubes, so you can configure them internally as you like.

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29er / Re: Full Suspension WCB-M-108 / LCFS902 / CS-821 Experience?
« on: January 09, 2017, 07:48:36 AM »
I'm currently waiting for my 20.5" version to be painted + shipped:

http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,1013.0.html

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29er / Re: Workswell WCB-M-108 Full suspension 29er
« on: December 06, 2016, 05:42:58 AM »
Alright, as we say in the Netherlands "the bullit is through the church".... I've committed to building one of these bikes by ordering a 20.5" model. It's going to be a nice bright azure color.
I've also bought a secondhand Cane Creek Double Barrel Inline shock. I hope this one doesn't break. like so many other ones do...

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29er / Re: Workswell WCB-M-108 Full suspension 29er
« on: November 15, 2016, 05:08:36 AM »
How is the rear-triangle lateral stiffness? Can you twist the rear wheel sideways a lot?
I only use the lockout on roads and the bike is hardtail like in this situation, rear is stiff.
Ha, I'm not worried about the up/down stiffness, but I wouldn't want any vagueness during agressive cornering over rough terrain, something my current FM-036 sadly has too much of :(

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29er / Re: Workswell WCB-M-108 Full suspension 29er
« on: November 10, 2016, 03:55:49 AM »
So about the Yishun LCFS902 (or Workswell WCB-M-108), i checked my bb height at 325mm with 100mm fork and 2,2 tyres, static measurement without SAG. As i said previously no problem of pedal strike in this configuration.

Here is what 19,5 frame looks like :

How is the rear-triangle lateral stiffness? Can you twist the rear wheel sideways a lot?

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29er / Re: Workswell WCB-M-108 Full suspension 29er
« on: November 05, 2016, 11:36:27 AM »
I bought this frame from yishun and at the moment i'm pretty happy with it.
My config is 100mm reba on front and monarchXX shock. I'd say this is a racy setup, clearly XC. As two-one said suspension is more on firm side but with 25% sag i use all the travel. Suspension works but you don't really feel it.

The pivot point is a little bit higher than on the FM-036 frames, so the anti-squat numbers should be a little higher, creating more pedal-support.
32 chainring is the size to get 100% AS (chain is aligned with pivot point)

also, the leverage ratio is a lot lower because of the 51mm stroke shock, so most aftermarket shocks will feel overdamped (a lot of damping), which should create a firm suspension feeling.
I would probably choose a Monarch Debonair RT3 shock, and retune it for this frame to a lower damping setting.
Yes i think if you want to build a trail bike monarchXX is not the shock to go with this frame. High volume shocks will probably make the ride softer.

(I'm not very experienced in FS so that's the opinion from a guy coming from a XC hardtail)
Cool! you're the first! I'm actually working on a paint job, and was planning to order it when I'm ready. Can you place a photo of your build?

I'm also wondering... don't you get any pedal strikes with the 100mm fork? 32t chainring sounds right on the money.

I wouldn't advise using a high-volume aircan, unless it's one with a high-volume negative chamber, like the Monarch Debonair, or a Fox EVOL aircan, otherwise you'll end up bottoming the suspension very often.
I'm still debating between a Monarch Debonair, or a Manitou Mcleod (without king-can).

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29er / Re: Workswell WCB-M-108 Full suspension 29er
« on: September 01, 2016, 03:50:02 AM »
The one concern i have is, given the fact the geometry is very similar to the Santa Cruz Tallboy 3 but doesn't have the VPP suspension, how is it going to handle and pedal? Is it just losing some of the pedal efficiency but most other characteristics are the same? This is why i'm cautious about being a guinea pig  :-\
The pivot point is a little bit higher than on the FM-036 frames, so the anti-squat numbers should be a little higher, creating more pedal-support.
also, the leverage ratio is a lot lower because of the 51mm stroke shock, so most aftermarket shocks will feel overdamped (a lot of damping), which should create a firm suspension feeling.
I would probably choose a Monarch Debonair RT3 shock, and retune it for this frame to a lower damping setting.

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29er / Re: Workswell WCB-M-108 Full suspension 29er
« on: August 30, 2016, 08:21:07 AM »
Yishun bikes has the same model, but they say that the 20.5" size hasn't been made yet... another couple of weeks.
http://www.yishunbike.com/mtb_frames -> LCFS902

I would still like to see a picture of that size before ordering. It would be nice to make a cool paintjob at the same time.

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29er / Workswell WCB-M-108 Full suspension 29er
« on: August 18, 2016, 03:16:34 AM »
I'm considering changing my FM-036 frame for a Workswell WCB-M-108 in size 20.5

http://www.workswellbikes.com/web/view/196.html
I like the headangle and the stack/reach, and don't intend to use a dropper seatpost, so the 520mm seattube probably wouldn't bother me.
I just have to calculate the shock tune to go with it... probably L/L

Does anyone have experience with this frame? And maybe have a picture of the 20.5" model?

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29er / Re: Design flaw/quality issue IP-036
« on: May 27, 2016, 01:48:50 PM »
I do have new bolts under way from Peter(as well as a new chainstay) but I do need longer bolts than 19 mm. The chainstay I have right now would need 20.5 mm bolts in order to sit perfectly. What I did was to get some other bolts originally intended for a rear shock installation and I shortened them in order to fit my chainstay. My best guess is that there is a difference in the overall thickness of the lower rear fork on the 036 chainstay and only one size of bolts.....

Karsten
I'm very curious about your new bolts, don't forget to measure them before you mount hem :)

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