Quote from: panel on August 09, 2026, 12:51:22 PMI think Sander got all these for his bike.

Hardware Upgrades
Sixweel/Timaster
• Titanium thru axles
• Titanium UDH hanger
• Titanium thru axles
• Titanium pivot bolt
• Titanium shifter clamps
• Titanium hose bolts

Yep!
I've got the Six Wheel / Ti Master titanium thru-axles on my Quick Pro ER:ONE, along with quite a few of their other titanium parts.

They're certainly not cheap, around £150 for the axles, but the fit and finish is excellent. I've also looked at the Overfast carbon axles, and personally I prefer the fit of the Six Wheel ones.

Before buying anything, I generally spend quite a bit of time looking for alternatives, particularly on AliExpress. The problem with titanium thru-axles is finding the correct length, thread pitch and overall dimensions. Even when you find something suitable, the weight saving over the original axles often isn't particularly significant, so I sometimes question whether it's worth changing them.

Regarding aluminium axles, personally I'm a little more cautious. Aluminium is softer than titanium or steel, and depending on the design and quality, I'd be concerned about damaging the tool interface through repeated tightening and removal. The last thing you want is a rounded axle that's difficult to remove!

For other hardware, there are definitely some more affordable alternatives. I've recently been looking at lightweight aluminium UDH hangers for another build. Incolor offers one, but if you reverse-image-search it, you'll find what appears to be the same product on AliExpress for around £30–35. Considering a UDH hanger is essentially a replaceable component designed to help protect the derailleur in an impact, I don't necessarily see the need to spend a fortune on a titanium version.

Also websites such as S-Parts, Ti Parts Titanium not sure which have a newer brand called Hotcheck offering various Ti parts. I haven't compared all their prices or specifications yet, but they're worth investigating.

Ultimately, I went with Six Wheel / Ti Master because I know the products, I'm happy with their quality, and everything fits properly. They're expensive, but sometimes paying a little more for something specifically designed for your frame saves a lot of hassle.

Quote from: MarioCanario on October 21, 2026, 05:21:09 AMi've been looking at the available "SL9 clone" options.

To me the RF10 and the Spcycle R099 seem identical. Even the tech. drawings published are the same. Since Daniel doesn't produce himself, i assume he sources from Shenzhen Disai Industrial Co., Ltd? I am not an expert on chinese production facilities and the ties btw. the various companies, but am i wrong on this? what do you think?

Yes, it's exactly the same frame. The RF10 is an open-mould frameset.

I've actually spoken to Daniel at Light Cycling about this as I thought it was exclusive to them, and he was very open about it.

So I did ask why should anyone buy from him over anyone else.

The difference is more in the preparation, finishing and attention to detail rather than the actual frame itself.

Daniel explained that Light Cycling works closely with the factory and he has a very close relationship with them, and has also contributed to certain aspects of the product, including developing its own zero-offset seatpost.

He also explained that they carry out additional preparation before shipping. For example, they clean and re-cut the T47 bottom bracket threads using the correct tooling, use professional cleaning agents and pre-install the internal cable guides.


But if the 0 offset is exclusive to LC thats a bonus.
I will contact SPcycle myself and see what they say

According to Daniel, these are additional steps that other sellers offering the same frameset don't necessarily carry out.

So make of that what you will!

To be honest, it's not really something I consider when choosing a wheelset. I've used both symmetrical and asymmetric rims and wouldn't specifically choose one over the other just because of the asymmetry.

That said, I do have a few asymmetric rims. One of my 60 mm wheelsets has around a 1.5 mm offset, and I have another mixed-depth wheelset where the rear rim is asymmetric. My new winter wheels are also using an asymmetric rim, but I didn't choose that rim because it was asymmetric. It just happened to be the rim profile I wanted.

As mentioned above, the advantage is that the offset can help balance the spoke tension between the two sides, particularly on a dished rear wheel because of the cassette. I can certainly see the benefit, and I might give it more consideration on some shallower wheel builds, particularly the rear, but personally I wouldn't worry too much about whether a wheelset was symmetrical or asymmetric.

Quote from: Lebie89 on October 23, 2026, 03:44:06 PMHi, just ordered this one and looking for a stem as I am still working ob my bike fit.

Any idea if this one fits? https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGLxGHc

Well the RF10 uses the FSA ACR system of spacers so provided this is ACR compatible it should work

 placed my order for the LightCarbon LCG072-D gravel frameset on Monday, 19 October.

I've gone for a size Medium, raw UD gloss carbon finish with white decals, paired with the HBR18 integrated handlebar (380 × 110mm).
Have gone for minimal logos.
I asked for brushed silver logos and was told as this was not somthing they do the price was quoted US$450 for 10 sheets of brushed silver logos as they have an MOQ for decals. Not sure if there is any truth in this but I went for white logos. Head Tube, small GR72 on the shoulders of the fork and a small LIGHTCARBON on the top tube next to the headtube.


Jim at LightCarbon was extremely helpful throughout the ordering process, answering all my questions.
Also was more responsive on WhatsApp rather than email.

Regarding availability, I was quoted approximately 50 days for production, as the Medium frame is currently out of stock. Shipping to the UK is estimated at a further 8–12 days.
He did say the next production batch would be ready in 25 days and then said 50 days not actually sure if that includes finishing and shipping. I will ask for clarification but I'm in no rush. But 50 days takes me up to 20th December so it will be a nice Christmas present 

I also asked Jim about tyre clearance, particularly as I'm planning to run a 1× drivetrain with 32mm internal-width gravel rims.

He kindly supplied the attached photographs showing the clearance with the following setup:

* Rim internal width: 32mm
* Tyre: 700 × 50C
* Actual inflated tyre width: Approximately 52mm
* Remaining clearance: Approximately 5mm on each side

As many know LightCarbon officially specifies a maximum measured tyre width of 50mm for a 1× drivetrain, or 45mm for a 2× setup. I will be running SRAM FORCE XPLR 1X on this bike.

Jim also explained that they generally recommend around 6mm of clearance on each side for gravel use, allowing for mud and debris which is pretty standard.
With only 5mm clearance, more frequent cleaning may be necessary.

Personally, I'm planning to use nominal 45C tyres, although I'll check their actual inflated width once they're mounted on my 32mm internal rims. But I'm guesstimating 47mm-49mm unless someone can confirm? Also any tyre recommendations would be usedfull.

I've included the photographs Jim supplied, as I thought the clearance information might be useful to anyone considering this frameset.

Quote from: BbCurly on October 19, 2026, 03:05:07 PMNice one! I can't wait to see them on the SL9 and hear how they go.

I've got a Tavelo Arden in that wild marbled blue on the way - my first disc brake roadie! Yeah i'm wanting to go pretty safe 50mm, sapin spokes, exposed (brass?) nipples so the VaporLite II 50's seem just right. Possibly silver hubs and spokes.

Can't wait.

Me too it's been almost 12weeks! and it's that time when the British weather turns!
Sapim spoke ok ok why brass nipples? I has brass on my winter wheels especially good for damp and wet weather prevents galvanic corrosion.
Well I like the Silver Spokes I'm planning a gravel build and if I can I'm thinking Sapim Silver Spokes, Silver Hub and hidden nipples maybe but if I go tubless (I use tubes on road) then have to have rim bed spokes holes!
Anyway pretty solid option should still be light!

The Tavelo looks like a great bike sounds like a great build!

Quote from: ChocoLateBN on October 19, 2026, 11:15:56 AMSomething to consider if you're going to do heavier duty gravel riding is that the HBR20 may not be strong/gravel oriented enough. I asked about it on some initial emails to Light Carbon and they were worried it wasn't strong enough for very rough gravel.

I'm aiming for the HBR20s myself as I'm not going to be doing more than Cat 3 gravel.

Thanks for that much appreciated.
I emailed my order this morning and have gone for the HBR18.
Now just waiting for a reply.
From experience replies are never super responsive but no big deal I have had to chase before as they are likely busy!

Quote from: BbCurly on October 19, 2026, 06:52:18 AMHey Sander,

I noticed you have silver hubs and not the black ones advertised on their site (assuming these are the VaporLite II 50's?). Is this something you requested? If so was there any other changes you requested?

By any chance have you had a chance to ride them yet?

Cheers

Hey mate,

No, these are actually the 60mm rims, not the 50s.

These are what they are calling the VaporLite Ultra Plus, which Zen also offers alongside the VaporLite Ultra.

The main difference between the Ultra and Ultra Plus is the hubs. The Ultra Plus uses the lighter 215g hubs, whereas the standard Ultra uses 235g hubs.
No everything is on there site so if you want something more bespoke best to WhatsApp that includes silver hubs and different spoke width, hidden nipple and regular nipple spokes

Mine are built with 4mm carbon spokes and hidden nipples.

I also requested a couple of other changes:

* Laser-etched logos – something Zen has only recently started offering.
* Satin finish on the rims rather than the standard finish. This adds up to around 30g to the wheelset.

As for riding them, unfortunately not yet, mate! My SL9 build has taken far longer than expected with the custom paintwork and waiting for various parts.

I'm hoping to finally get the SL9 build finished this week, so fingers crossed I'll actually get a chance to ride them soon!

I'm almost  decided on the Medium for this frame.

Compared with my SL9, the Medium gravel frame is already a little taller and a little shorter. My SL9 is 544mm stack and I currently run 18mm of spacers, whereas the Medium gravel frame is 565.3mm stack.

If I run the HBR018 bar with its 8mm rise and around 10mm of spacers, the front end should work out roughly 20–21mm higher than my current SL9 position. That sounds about right to me for gravel without making it excessively upright.

On reach, the Medium frame is 7mm shorter than my SL9, and the HBR018 bar itself has 69mm reach compared with 75mm on my THM road bar, so that's another 6mm shorter.

So even if I stick with a 120mm stem, the overall cockpit is already about 13mm shorter than the SL9. If I went down to a 110mm stem, it would be around 23mm shorter overall.

At the moment I'm leaning towards keeping the 120mm stem and 380mm bars, with around 10mm of spacers. That should give me a slightly higher and shorter position than the road bike without making the gravel bike feel completely different.

I'm still considering the HBR20 30mm riser bar as well. If I ran that directly on the Medium frame with no spacers, it would put the front end roughly 33mm higher than my current SL9 setup, so noticeably more upright, but still potentially quite sensible for a gravel bike.

Like anything when you're trying to pick another bike, it's a bit of a minefield balancing fit, looks and how you actually want the bike to ride. Keen to keep reading everyone's thoughts and see what other people have done.

RF10 finish update! The custom 12K carbon fabric arrived at Light Cycling this week! 🔥

12K carbon weave to be laid at 45 degrees in gloss, with matching seatposts. Hopefully it turns out as planned!

The 12K finish was the reason for going with the RF10 over the Tan Tan x68.
I originally asked Tantan whether they could do the X68 in this particular 12K weave, but they said no.

When I asked Daniel, he initially said it wouldn't be a problem. However, I think he then realised they didn't have the material available and it was more difficult than planned , so it had to be sourced. It took around a week, but the fabric has now arrived. So I take my hat off to him sorting that out which I'm impressed with.

The weave has 8 × 8 mm squares, and I've specifically asked for it to be laid at 45 degrees to give it a diamond pattern rather than the usual square appearance. The frame, fork and both seatposts (I have ordered both set backs) will have the same 12K finish with a gloss clearcoat. Basically I am copy and Instagrammer Le Pedaler Quick Pro GR ONE that is finished like this.

For the logos the LIGHT CYCLING lettering on the downtube has a 1 mm outline rather than solid lettering, allowing the carbon weave to show throughabd this is including the head tube logo and the surger rf10 logo.

All the logos will be Pantone Cool Gray 7 C, including the LC head tube logo and the smaller SURGE RF10 lettering on the seat stay.

I have mentioned  to Daniel that his head tube logo, although it's meant to represent an L and a C, looks a bit like a G to me. Personally, I think a small break where the two letters meet would make it clearer. I don't think he's planning to change it, but hopefully it'll look better once it's on the frame.

I also changed my Tavelo Rise bar order down to a 110 mm from 120 mm after going round in circles for two days reading information online about how these bloody bars are sized!
Tavelo seem to measure their stem lengths differently for some reason, so the effective stem length ends up being around 10 mm longer compared with some other brands. From what I've seen, the measurement isn't taken from the centre of the steerer clamp bolt but slightly further forward. And I also found my old bike mechanics you tube video where he measured two Tarmac SL8 using a laser through the centre of the fork thru axles one bike with the rapid bar and one with the Tavelo Avro and the Tavelo comes up 10mm longer.
Now I'm sure some will say it's right and other will say it wrong makes no difference now the order has been changed.  And I may attempt myself to strip the Matt paint from the bars and finish them in RAW UD gloss not sure if I am brave enough to attempt it yet! Lol

Will also give a carbon Ryet saddle ago was £35 on Ali so worth a go!

Current estimates put the bike at 6.6kg. A 54cm frame is 850g estimated and the 12K finish is heavier I have been told buy 70-100g. I'm aware this Finnish would add weight so it definitely will be interesting to see where it ends up could end up being a 1kg frame but I have used 950g in the estimate and 1275g wheelset.

Patrick when are you expecting the seat post to arrive!

Quote from: Swatt on October 15, 2026, 03:05:09 AM
Regarding this, and considering that you tested the QuickPro ER:One with many wheelsets, do you think that a 36mm rear rim is too wide for the ER:One? I am specifically looking at EliteWheels Drive SL 58D SS (36 front, 34 rear) and Zen Carbon Vaporlite II (36 mm front and rear).

I measured the frame, about 8mm of clearance with my current wheel that is 30mm wide externally and about 6 mm of clearance with a 31mm tire.
36mm rim means +3mm on each side, so I would get 5mm of clearance between rim and frame...for the tire I would say that 33mm is the absolute maximum I would run (I would probably prefer a 32mm WAM tire).

What I am most worried about is the tire combination with the rim. 36 mm external is wide. 32 mm WAM x 1.09 is 34.88mm...36mm rim width seems reasonable only when running at least a 33mm WAM tire, otherwise is just added frontal area.


I've actually tried something very close to this. I fitted a Tagoola Aura wheelset with a 35.8mm external and 26mm internal rim to the ER:One.

I tested them with 34mm tyres that measured just over 36mm, and they did fit, but on the rear it was sailing a bit too close to the wind for me. I'd personally stick with a 32mm tyre that measures around 33–34mm. That gives you a much more sensible amount of clearance.

I also had to remove the little front derailleur Di2 cable clip and tape the cable back. I rode the setup for around 20km and put tape on the inside of the chainstays so I could check afterwards for any signs of rubbing. There were no marks, but personally I wouldn't run a tyre measuring around 36mm on the rear again.

When I get my SL9 build back, I'll try my 60mm VaporLite II wheels on the ER:One as well. They've got 32mm tyres on the rear, although I can't remember exactly what they measure in reality. The 30mm front tyre measures 32.29mm, so that should give me another useful comparison.

So yes, a 36mm external rim can fit, but for me the bigger consideration is the actual measured tyre width rather than just the rim width. I'd be much happier with a 32mm tyre that blows up slightly wider than trying to run something measuring around 36mm at the rear.

If you message me here , I've got some photos and a video of the Tagoola setup I can whatsapp you

Quote from: JensenMacD on October 14, 2026, 06:15:23 AM
Have you talked to Daniel about the new riser bar they have? In his recent post, for his bike, you can see a riser bar. Maybe that would pair well as it comes from the same factory.

Hi mate I did. His bar is 30mm and I did not want a rise that steep.
I bit the bullet and ordered the Tavelo Rise with ACR spacer kit

Quote from: chanchvn on October 12, 2026, 07:46:36 PM
Looking forward to this build with your custom paint request  and review.

I'd likely mimic the same build with a tavelo riser, but im still on the fence till more people share experiences with it.

It's going to be at least 6-8 weeks before anything happens 15days production then shipping maybe 10-14days then build.
I will get an excel on the go for estimated weight as I have a the group set and parts from my X68.
Frame is claimed 850g in medium but the finish apparently will add some weight which I knew would be the case.
I should still be able hopefully to get to 6.8kgs  .  but we will see.
I'm like many keen to hear what Patrick has to say.

Patrick whens the seatpost turning up.

Quote from: agarabaghi on October 12, 2026, 09:02:09 AM
I really dislike that the yichord comes in 95 and 105 and not 100 lol

Do you have links to the other brands?

Tavelo bars have once nice feature, you can pick custom spacers for your frame

After all that, I ended up going with the Tavelo anyway 😂

The 380 × 120 has around 20mm of rise, which works out pretty much perfectly for me. On the RF10 I'll effectively only need the cone spacer and a 10mm bar spacer to get my fit where I want it.

I was getting fed up waiting on the HUDUD questions on spacers and all the back and forth, so I just pulled the trigger on the Tavelo, did ask HUDUD to send me an invoice as well  , you snooze you lose!

Being a weight weenie probably helped the decision too. Claimed weight is around 280g, which is hard to argue with will see i might attempt to remove the matt finish myself for UD 

Here are the AliExpress links for the other bars if anyone is interested:

Rpantahi
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005013293995702.html?pdp_npi=4%40dis%21GBP%21%EF%BF%A1302.98%21%EF%BF%A1263.59%21%21%21389.84%21339.16%21%40210382de17918184776973001e0fc6%2112000060754057884%21sh%21GB%216406715354%21X&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.new_all_items_2007523599136.1005013293995702

HUDUD
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005013309537969.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.98ab11b2KdqyqL&algo_pvid=827cd0c4-6035-4134-ae6c-0dc01096d335&algo_exp_id=827cd0c4-6035-4134-ae6c-0dc01096d335-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%222%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22search%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21GBP%21256.80%21241.39%21%21%212209.97%212077.37%21%400b0fe78617918186386085271e0c22%2112000060795585308%21sea%21GB%216406715354%21ABX%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29910%3Bd%3A57ebd5c4%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&curPageLogUid=TLp5u0nfuEAE&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005013309537969%7C_p_origin_prod%3A&tblci=GiAVopNGx94PfImHdB0QhQ6T_GgBTd1a8RHSIJKeKs0QtiDA9m4orM3p4Ma8qrgaMPi_Rw

YICHORD
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005013314248609.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.similar_items.1.2be5sAvtsAvtUe&utparam-url=scene%3Aimage_search%7Cquery_from%3Adetail_bigimg%7Cx_object_id%3A1005013314248609%7C_p_origin_prod%3A&algo_pvid=31295dc5-c8ef-4281-9458-5dec31f8bb3a&algo_exp_id=31295dc5-c8ef-4281-9458-5dec31f8bb3a&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%2210%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22search%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21GBP%21279.19%21209.39%21%21%212402.67%211801.98%21%4021038a9c17918186702783054e0ea5%2112000060778603172%21sea%21GB%216406715354%21ABX%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29910%3Bd%3A57ebd5c4%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895

Quote from: MarioCanario on October 12, 2026, 09:53:15 AM
kudos for your purchase. curious to what the price ended up being? if you can/want to tell.
there website mentions 699$ all in DDP, which would be very very competetive.

why not go with someting of a milder rise? like the 8mm of the LC HBR17?

Yes, that's right with Shipping and the custom finish added an extra $100 USD. The geometry is effectively identical to my SL8 and SL9 and well I wanted the finish I requested so they better di a good job!. The only real difference is that I'm going with a riser bar

I originally planned to get the HUDUD, but I got fed up waiting for all the back and forth over spacer questions although I did want the UD Gloss finish, but its not the end of the world!,  and I'm not the most patient person. In the end I ordered a set of Tavelo Rise bars in 380 × 120 mm.

On my SL9 I currently run a flat bar setup with an 18 mm spacer stack. The THM bars I'm using now have a 6° rise, whereas the Tavelo bars use a 10° rise. Once you factor in the head tube angle, I should only need the cone spacer and the single 10 mm spacer under the bars to achieve my position and the Tavelo also gives me a cleaner front-end setup with fewer spacers while keeping the same fit.