Is this frame still worth it? I tried a velobuild aerograv and realized that I hate high trailed bikes. I also don't need 50c+ tires. I was mainly looking at this from a wider tire road frame angle as it has very low trail, 53 or smt. but bb height gives me doubts. I have looked at many chiner frames but I couldn't find much, everything either has high trail or very slack head tube. If anyone has any recommendations I'd appreciate otherwise I think this is the only option.

my current CX frame might be totaled so I've been looking at bikes similar to what you describe. Right now I'm between this and the new tantan gr060 which has a little more BB drop, a little more stack, and a little more tire clearance than the CX002. The headtube and seattube angles are similarly aggressive on both, depending on the size.

I have a separate gravel bike with MTB tire clearance and more slack geo so my focus is on a CX race day machine. I opt for a cross bike with 38mm slicks instead of my road or gravel bike on most of my training rides anyways regardless of surface and either bike seems like they would be great at that.

Hi all,

I'm looking for frame recommendations to build up a gravel racing rig. Already have an all road bike with pretty solid (40mm) tire clearance so I want this to go well beyond that.

My two big criteria are

• the frame works with 2x drivetrains. I have grx di2 11 speed in my parts bin, and running it with 46/30 or 50/34 rings and an 11-40 cassette is fantastic IMO
• it can fit 2.1 schwalbe thunder burts on a wide internal (~30mm rim) while still running 2x

Other nice to have options would be

• suspension corrected geo (or at least a ~400mm fork axle to crown)
• somewhat aero shapes
• udh
• bsa or t47bb

I think the Tideace Noah/ State carbon all road and Yoleo g21 will do this but unsure if there are other options, maybe some of the newer frames from light carbon or the new release from velobuild? Would be awesome if there was something that would fit the 2.2 race king with 2x as well but I'm not sure thats really possible without a wider bb standard.

Thanks!