Carbonda fm936 Thoughts

Started by Jan505, April 03, 2019, 11:25:02 AM

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numberzero

Pinkbike has written a short test of the twin brother, the NSbikes Synonym.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/ns-bikes-synonym-tr1-review.html

Medico

Quote from: numberzero on February 06, 2020, 12:13:14 PM
Pinkbike has written a short test of the twin brother, the NSbikes Synonym.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/ns-bikes-synonym-tr1-review.html

It's even better...the same author has a youtube channel making a vid of this bike and topic after I send him a reply about the ns bike review...lol


carbonazza

David Arthur is a regular contributor of road.cc
It is funny how mysterious -- buying direct from China -- is to him.
Luckily he starts with Carbonda, which in my experience are amongst the best built and finished frames.

ReverendRockRazor

#138
 A link to the video
And also that 1800 gram super light frame and its geo is calling me...and i just got done building my lcfs958. Dammit.

Does anyone know if its possible to put a 165x45 on it and get it to 130mm?

Edit from reading the thread a medium super light is little over 1900grams. Also i see 165x45 is a no go? So what is the rear travel with a 42.5 vs 40mm stroke?
And last if i put a offset bushing in reverse would that be enough for the 45mm stroke to not hit the seat tube? And what is the travel with a 165x45 shock?

Jotegr

Offset bushings don't really work in reverse unfortunately. They have a tendency to rotate to the slacker positioning in short order, so it won't really work for very long.

You can't determine the exact travel when swapping a 42.5 to a 45 because you have to take axle path in to account, and most bikes don't move through their travel relative to shock stroke in a linear manner. So it's kinda unpredictable exactly how much more travel you'll get. You can do a simple approximation but it isn't elegant and won't really get you the answer you want.

The inelegant way is that 45mm is roughly 6% more than 42.5. So that's approximately 127mm of travel. But as I said, that's an approximation and the math will work better for some frames than others.

mtbluvr68

Most manufacturers have a 165X45 at 120mm of suspension and 165X40 and 110  so that leave 165X42.5 at 115.  115 to me would be fine with 130 mm fork in front.  Similar to Giant Trance 29..a decent trail bike. 

diycarbonbikes.com lists this frame which looks similar and sells in both a regular 165X38 version and a trunnion version. 

https://www.diycarbonbikes.com/collections/fullsuspensionframes/products/copy-of-2018-27-5-dcb-xct27-doctrine-style-carbon-mtb-frame?variant=31391711297616

With the Carbonda frame some riders said the 45 fit on it but the top of the shock linkage was close to touching the seat tube. 
2025 SPOT RYVE 115   w/Elite wheels(XC)
2023  Chasing Wind w/ elite wheels (Gravel)
2026 SPCYCLE 053D 32C Road bike w/ Light bicycle wheels (road)

numberzero

About shock size :

165x42,5 fits, you have a few millimeters space between seatstays arch and seat tube.

165x45 doesn't fit, at full travel the arch is touching the seat tube.

All these informations were confirmed to me by carbonda.

Flo7

Does a shock with piggy back fits?

Medico

Quote from: numberzero on February 12, 2020, 03:26:44 AM
About shock size :

165x42,5 fits, you have a few millimeters space between seatstays arch and seat tube.

See also my pics a few pages ago with 165x 42.5 shock...does fit wit more than enough room...

Do also think a piggy bag will fit, but haven't tried it

165x45 doesn't fit, at full travel the arch is touching the seat tube.

All these informations were confirmed to me by carbonda.

ReverendRockRazor

Quote from: mtbluvr68 on February 11, 2020, 06:54:42 PM
Most manufacturers have a 165X45 at 120mm of suspension and 165X40 and 110  so that leave 165X42.5 at 115.  115 to me would be fine with 130 mm fork in front.  Similar to Giant Trance 29..a decent trail bike. 

diycarbonbikes.com lists this frame which looks similar and sells in both a regular 165X38 version and a trunnion version. 

https://www.diycarbonbikes.com/collections/fullsuspensionframes/products/copy-of-2018-27-5-dcb-xct27-doctrine-style-carbon-mtb-frame?variant=31391711297616

With the Carbonda frame some riders said the 45 fit on it but the top of the shock linkage was close to touching the seat tube.
Ive already built that frame up. Its the same as a fs027 from miracle bike.
I liked it and thats what led me to build my Lightcarbon 958.

I really really like flexstay designs but they are very dependent on shock tune.

spec47

Never heard back from Carbonda since my frame was returned to sender (shipped to Canada via EMS), but just picked it up from the post office today. Looks like it was mailed on Feb 6 and got here Feb 10, pretty quick and didn't get charged customs/duties/taxes at all.

Should have everything to build it, but need a few feet of snow to melt.

ride_n

Great news, Spec47...!  pls keep us updated.  looks like they're still laying low in china due to the virus...

mtbluvr68

Medico how much travel do you have in the fork?  which fork? 
2025 SPOT RYVE 115   w/Elite wheels(XC)
2023  Chasing Wind w/ elite wheels (Gravel)
2026 SPCYCLE 053D 32C Road bike w/ Light bicycle wheels (road)

spec47



Just unboxed it and I'm impressed with the quality so far. Medium SL version seems to come in at 1860g.

Medico

Quote from: mtbluvr68 on February 12, 2020, 07:28:53 PM
Medico how much travel do you have in the fork?  which fork?

Do you mean shock? Rs deluxe rct 165x42,5
And front fox float 120mm but when my new carbon nexties arive it will be a DVO sapphire d1 120mm