Quote from: kbernstein on September 26, 2024, 10:29:34 AM


First video about it I believe
Also probed joe about sensah/magene groupsets and he said he is waiting for embargo to end

Did Joe say anything about when the embargo will be lifted? I am very much interested in the Magene groupset.

Quote from: boxof13 on September 26, 2024, 05:27:23 PM
Did Joe say anything about when the embargo will be lifted? I am very much interested in the Magene groupset.

No sorry no word on dates. wheeltop GEX releases oct 8 but no word on sensah, magene or updated ltwoo

I have a UDH frame. Do I need a UDH to direct mount adapter like this for the rear derailler to work? https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-hanger-562.html

Quote from: tybrisbane on September 29, 2024, 04:48:35 AM
I have a UDH frame. Do I need a UDH to direct mount adapter like this for the rear derailler to work? https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-hanger-562.html

No - you have a UDH already. You don't need anything further. The linked mount will not work - you already have the correct mount.

Quote from: raisinberry777 on September 29, 2024, 04:49:30 AM
No - you have a UDH already. You don't need anything further. The linked mount will not work - you already have the correct mount.

Thanks. It's so confusing!

First ride feedback video

It's pretty suspect that their 19 reviews all appear to be fake. A bunch of them even seem to feature pictures from the same bike

All reviews were added on between 25th and 29th of September. I received the marketing email with the announcement of the groupset on the 8th of October and there has been no reviews on their website since.

I certainly wouldn't be making a decision based on reviews on their website.  The video review was interesting but just a first ride, and many social media influencers will give anything a good review as opposed to an honest review.  I think Wheeltop has given a number of groupsets free to online reviewers, eg. Ribble Valley Cyclist's 2nd GeX Vid . Not saying the reviews are honest.

Time will tell, more real reviews, durability feedback, etc.  Also, when things do go wrong, how good is the support.  Everything might be wonderful until it's not

Another video which I think hasnt been posted
https://www. youtube. com/watch?v=6Xm4Gajv9c8

On paper this looks really nice:
fully wireless SRAM-style derailleur
hydraulic oil Shimano-compatible braking
shifting logic can be set as either Shimano- or SRAM-style within the app
compatible with basically any cassette no matter the gear count, even futureproof with 14 aswell

With good QC/longevity this could potentially be the best 1by groupset to date

Quote from: highwind on October 25, 2024, 03:32:15 AM
Another video which I think hasnt been posted


On paper this looks really nice:
fully wireless SRAM-style derailleur
hydraulic oil Shimano-compatible braking
shifting logic can be set as either Shimano- or SRAM-style within the app
compatible with basically any cassette no matter the gear count, even futureproof with 14 aswell

With good QC/longevity this could potentially be the best 1by groupset to date

I wonder why I never see videos on this forum? Switched abdlock off and nothing changed so it wasnt it. Anyone has a solution?

Quote from: highwind on October 25, 2024, 03:32:15 AM
With good QC/longevity this could potentially be the best 1by groupset to date

The same could be said for any Chinese groupset so far

Reliability / post-sale support still seems to have a way to go before it's anywhere near the larger western brands. Hopefully I read less failures of story over time, but on the Wheeltop owner's group on Facebook there's enough stories of failure to keep me away for the moment, at least for any bike where reliability is a key factor.

I contacted Wheeltop with a couple of questions that may (or may not) be of interest:

• I asked why the groupset maxed out at 51t and not 52t which is more common.  They stated that with most frames a 52t cassette works, but they've found some where it doesn't work well, so they made the specs 'max 51t' to be safe
• I asked if the GeX or TX shifters were compatible with the OX mtb groupset for a mullet setup, but they said 'no, they are not compatible'.

Quote from: kubackje on October 25, 2024, 04:38:41 AM
I wonder why I never see videos on this forum? Switched abdlock off and nothing changed so it wasnt it. Anyone has a solution?

Got the same issue aswell on this forum
Edited the youtube link above so you can c&p it in a browser, remove the spaces and watch it

Quote from: raisinberry777 on October 25, 2024, 06:30:48 AM
The same could be said for any Chinese groupset so far

Probably true

But jokes aside: so far the main argument for chinese groupsets has been pricing... and while the EDS GeX is still a little cheaper than compareable SRAM/Shimano sets, I think its main argument is innovation/compatibilty/interoperability
Being able to run different speed cassettes, fiddeling around with jumps for every single sproket and combining SRAMs (superior) AXS shifting logic with Shimanos (superior) breaking are standout features you just cannot get from the big brands.

Quote from: kbernstein on August 20, 2024, 03:54:38 AM
What does "shock absorber" mean? RD clutch? Are they developping an electronic clutch? Or bundling a gravel (coil) fork with the groupset which will have an electronic version?

Since they are just ripping off Srams RD, it has a fluid rear dampener in it to mitigate chainslap.

Quote from: eeney on September 26, 2024, 04:04:30 PM
Interesting that this is max 51t cassette, whereas the mtb version is 52t.

Looking forward to reviews and pricing.  I've seen Sram mullet mini groupsets for $750... however this Wheeltop would allow the keeping and using of 11sp cassettes, chains and freehub bodies, which is additional cost saving initially, but with options to uprade to more gears later.

Update, Wheeltop website is around $675, so not a big difference from Sram..... Sram comes with the comfort of local support (I'm in the process of replacing an chinese power meter crank on warranty, local support would've been easier and quicker, even though the manufacturer was very helpful)

roughly $700 for this group with sketchy warranty vs another $250 for grey market Force AXS with sketchy warranty...I think most people shopping for stuff like this would just fork out the extra $250. 

Curious about weights on this group/parts.