Carbonda fm936 Thoughts

[wfl3]

Hello did you check how geometry has changed with the new link?
I would like to know what is the effect on bb height, reach and head angle.

Arno posted the geo chart from Carbonda at the end of this thread:  https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3986.0.html

No BB height, but I'd assume a few mm higher than the 100mm 936 since the new link is just pushing the rear end a bit further down.  Of course if you run more sag with the new link it will probably be very similar.

[numberzero]

Arno posted the geo chart from Carbonda at the end of this thread:  https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3986.0.html

No BB height, but I'd assume a few mm higher than the 100mm 936 since the new link is just pushing the rear end a bit further down.  Of course if you run more sag with the new link it will probably be very similar.

Ok i saw.
Reach and HA are the same as the basic 100/100mm version but with 120/120 setup and bike raised by 1cm.

It's clearly a pretty different bike with the new link!

[acedeuce802]

how big bottles fit in the frame?

I can fit 750ml along the downtube.  For the vertical bottle, 750ml touches the nozzle on the top tube but does fit in.  I'm going to adjust the design so the downtube bottle sits further back, and may be able to bring the vertical bottle down a bit, but it's a tight squeeze since you need to fit a nut in there without the nut or screw running into the downtube.

[wfl3]

Ok i saw.
Reach and HA are the same as the basic 100/100mm version but with 120/120 setup and bike raised by 1cm.

It's clearly a pretty different bike with the new link!

A lot of us were running 100/120 and it is a bit different bike at 120/120 now with the new link.  Should be VERY similar geo to 100/100, just more suspension and a higher BB.

[Arno Knell]

A lot of us were running 100/120 and it is a bit different bike at 120/120 now with the new link.  Should be VERY similar geo to 100/100, just more suspension and a higher BB.

My buddy Michael has both version in his garage.
100/100 (9,4kg) for xc race and marathon.
120/120 (10,4) for every day use.
He could now compare both bikes.

[volan]

Guys, I'm so glad I ran into this forum! I just recently started to "think outside" tipical mtb brands and decieded to take a chance at some chinese mtb full sus carbon frame. From what I've saw, fm936 seems to get most praise.

So if someone here could help me with some questions. Namely, I can't see the price on carbonda website, and I wonder how long does it take for them to respond since there''s no "buy" option, just "inquiry"?

And are there any brands on aliexpress that sell this frame? Do I have to order it only on carbonda site? I'm from EU if that means anything.

Thanks for help!

[Arno Knell]

Guys, I'm so glad I ran into this forum! I just recently started to "think outside" tipical mtb brands and decieded to take a chance at some chinese mtb full sus carbon frame. From what I've saw, fm936 seems to get most praise.

So if someone here could help me with some questions. Namely, I can't see the price on carbonda website, and I wonder how long does it take for them to respond since there''s no "buy" option, just "inquiry"?

And are there any brands on aliexpress that sell this frame? Do I have to order it only on carbonda site? I'm from EU if that means anything.

Thanks for help!

@volan,
super light frame price 795,00 usd.
standard frame price 680,00 usd.
I placed my orders via alibaba app.
response time (same day of enquiry)
shipping cost (door to door including tax) 195,00 usd for one frame.
shipping cost for two frames 260,00 usd.

[volan]

@volan,
super light frame price 795,00 usd.
standard frame price 680,00 usd.
I placed my orders via alibaba app.
response time (same day of enquiry)
shipping cost (door to door including tax) 195,00 usd for one frame.
shipping cost for two frames 260,00 usd.

You rock! Thanks alot. That's exactly the info i needed!!! I'll look around this thread a bit more, do some research and probably give it a go!

How long does it take to get it delivered?

[Arno Knell]

How long does it take to get it delivered?
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approximately 4 weeks after payment.

[volan]

How long does it take to get it delivered?


approximately 4 weeks after payment.

Could you direct me to what else I need to buy for rear shock? Is this trunnion mount or not 165mm, and what bushings would I need to buy? Sorry, this will be my first full sus build so I'm kinda noob when it comes to rear shocks...

[Medico]

Could you direct me to what else I need to buy for rear shock? Is this trunnion mount or not 165mm, and what bushings would I need to buy? Sorry, this will be my first full sus build so I'm kinda noob when it comes to rear shocks...

Not to be rude, but those questions are answered a couple of times...use the search option please...
And email carbonda direct instead of alibaba...sometimes cheaper, but always fast reply ( not these days, because of chinese newyear)

Good luck

[Arno Knell]

Could you direct me to what else I need to buy for rear shock? Is this trunnion mount or not 165mm, and what bushings would I need to buy? Sorry, this will be my first full sus build so I'm kinda noob when it comes to rear shocks...

The rear shock is trunion mount.
The two bolts are included in the frame set.
For the eylet you must by one 8x30mm bushing set.
Note:
8x30 for the new 120/120 frame (linkage)
8x22,2mm for the 100/100 frame

[Eneen]

This new rocker doesn't make 120mm NS Synonym TR frame from geometry point of view. I'm not sure if NS has actual 120mm of travel, but they have 38mm BB drop while keeping 66 deg HA. With new rocker to get 66HA you would need to rise BB about 8mm, so actual BB drop will be about 27mm.

[Arno Knell]

This new rocker doesn't make 120mm NS Synonym TR frame from geometry point of view. I'm not sure if NS has actual 120mm of travel, but they have 38mm BB drop while keeping 66 deg HA. With new rocker to get 66HA you would need to rise BB about 8mm, so actual BB drop will be about 27mm.

Dimension F in the drawing is 520mm
Dimension F SID ULTIMATE 120mm is 531mm
I measured HA 65,5°
BB high 330mm

[Eneen]

Surely not. 120mm rocker require 120mm fork to set frame into 67 deg HA (as stated in the table below drawing). How come have you got 65.5 if default HA is 67 deg and you haven't risen front wheel? To get 66 deg HA you need about 140mm fork.
EDIT: Indeed, 120mm Fox SC also has 530mm A2C, so with 120/120 setup HA will be about 66.5, but not 65.5, for sure.