Carbonda fm936 Thoughts

[FullCarbonAlchemist]

Where do you actually buy these frames? I can't find a buy button anywhere on the carbonda website.

Cheers.

It’s all done through email. A mildly clunky process, but their level of customer service is pretty good for this kind of company. Response times are usually between 3 hours and one day, depending on whether you send an email during Shenzhen business hours.

Keep in mind things are a bit rough there right now with China’s aggressive Zero COVID policies. Multi week disruptions are absolutely possible and should be planned for.

[kiwicoffeebeer]

I'm considering a 936. I have a 100mm hardtail xc bike, and would bring the SID fork across to the 936. I'd love to go to a 120mm fork, but it's an extra $700-1000 to do that. What I'm trying to work out, is which shock to get.

1) I see that the Fox shock has spacers, so a 165x40 would work (or is it 37.5 to get 100mm travel?) and could have spacers swapped to go to 42.5 for 120mm travel in the future (or is it to 45mm?).
2) I see there's a RS Nude off the Genius in the right spaces, but also an RS SID that has more adjustment.

What's got me confused, is which tune version of the shock is best? And would the extra adjustments of say the SID enable more tuning and result in a better ride? I've had a Fox on a bike that wasn't what it came with, and had the wrong tune and air can volume for the frame, and could never get it to perform how I'd like until I did volume spacers.

So, anyone able to help? RS Nude, RS SID, Fox (and I think there's a few versions of them), and what factory tune is best?

Thanks

(80kg, xc to light down country riding).

[Jotegr]

I can't comment on the tunes, but I'll note there's been some discussion on the frame not actually fitting a x45 stroke shock in most/all sizes. It was pretty deep within the thread though, be careful.

[kiwicoffeebeer]

Thanks, I have read a lot of the thread, and wasn't sure what the final conclusion was on max stroke.

It really seems that there are too many shock options from Fox and Rockshox, and then you add in tunes ... just too many to choose from.

It was said at least that a 40/42.5/45 fox are the same, just with different sag markings and spacers. I'd probably go 165x40, but just unsure of all the models and then the tunes. And if paying say $480 for the DPS performance, and then sending to fox for a tune, that really starts to get up there in price. So maybe the RS Nude off the Scott is closer, but then I see the SID with more adjustments ... can more user adjustable settings overcome a factory tune which doesn't suit the bike/trails/rider?

Hopefully someone has done lots of research and can break it down for me in the the options are 1) Fox DPS XXXX tune, 2) RS nude, 3) x-fusion yyy sort of thing.

[ilyamaksimov]

Thanks, I have read a lot of the thread, and wasn't sure what the final conclusion was on max stroke.

It really seems that there are too many shock options from Fox and Rockshox, and then you add in tunes ... just too many to choose from.

It was said at least that a 40/42.5/45 fox are the same, just with different sag markings and spacers. I'd probably go 165x40, but just unsure of all the models and then the tunes. And if paying say $480 for the DPS performance, and then sending to fox for a tune, that really starts to get up there in price. So maybe the RS Nude off the Scott is closer, but then I see the SID with more adjustments ... can more user adjustable settings overcome a factory tune which doesn't suit the bike/trails/rider?

Hopefully someone has done lots of research and can break it down for me in the the options are 1) Fox DPS XXXX tune, 2) RS nude, 3) x-fusion yyy sort of thing.

tune setting depends on your preference for the suspension. If you don't know what you want, choose a linear compression and rebound melody

[theirishrider]

If you search in this forum 'Fox DPS' '42.5' , '45' you'll see the answers. I run a giant anthem fox 42.5 dps and the tune is perfect.

General question, would someone be able to make a short video of the left right frame flex when standing/moving on one pedal? just trying to see if mine if normal. Thanks!

[Jotegr]

If you're ordering a new Fox DPS, you could order one direct from Fox and have them tune it at the warehouse, will save on some money.

Despite popular opinions, Fox does like two tunes per shock to cover 90% of bikes out there. I'm guessing the base aftermarket tune will be totally fine and should you wish for something different you can spread the cost out by getting it done a season later or so. OR if you're paying for a service anyway, get a used shock and send it in for a tune/service to bring it back to "like new" with the tune you like. 

[kiwicoffeebeer]

Has anyone sent a Fox in for service, gotten a tune AND had the travel adjusted?

Curious if they'll do the travel adjustment too (or perhaps it's so easy that I should just do it myself?).

I've got a few months before I'll be ready to buy, so will try to get a shock before then if one comes up for a bargain.

Thanks.

[dan_cx]

 Size Large built with entirely spare parts. Full GX mechanical, SRAM Rise 60 wheels, 120mm RS-1 & 100mm Deluxe Nude, Reverb, Guide Ultimate brakes, and a few other bits I had kicking around. Haven't weighed it yet, but "ye olde heft-o-meter" feels that it's light enough for a marathon/all-day-ride build. Oh, downtube & chainstay protector were from AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002548747061.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef1802k0WVmN

[Notyetman]

So which is it? Does the FM936 gets 107mm or 115mm travel in rear for a 42.5 shock? I'm reading both.

[Killerpanda]

Anyone tried running a Cane Creek DB IL air?

[zilcho]

So which is it? Does the FM936 gets 107mm or 115mm travel in rear for a 42.5 shock? I'm reading both.

No one knows for sure, it is not an official spec and you have to account for the flex-stays. Someone in here modeled the frame and the best guess is somewhere around 115mm.

[d3xophen]

Does somebody know what is the weight of dummy shock which is installed when the frame come?

[Zomb1e]

Does somebody know what is the weight of dummy shock which is installed when the frame come?

51 grams w/o hardware

[Patch64]

Hello guys, just three questions:
- how does it work with one bottle? can it handle a big one (750ml)? can we have 2 bottles?
- I'm 182 cm tall, did a L is Ok for me?
- Should I  go for a 100 or 120 mm fork? (should be a SID SL Select)
Thanks