Author Topic: My new 29er  (Read 13713 times)

adym

My new 29er
« on: July 25, 2014, 05:53:34 AM »
Hi All,

I am in the planning stage of my 'Chiner' - Probably an ICAN X6, I just like the look of it and it's longer than most, even with the slightly longer chain stays. Anyway, my big question is the wheels. What do you guys do about the 142x12 axles. Are the dropouts threaded like in other bikes? I have been trying to communicate this with Melody from ICAN but I think she's confused.

Or do I need a longer one with a bolt?

Thanks!
« Last Edit: July 27, 2014, 02:47:08 AM by adym »



MTB2223

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2014, 07:04:50 AM »
The dropout in my IP-256SL frame isn't threaded. I've got a threaded bolt for the axle.
Please take a look at my pictures. I think it will clarify a little bit.


The bolt on the axle is threaded, not the dropout.

You can ask her if the axle need a threaded bolt. Or if the axle has a threaded end.

adym

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2014, 07:33:21 AM »
Ok, thanks, Where did you get your axle from? Did it come with any Chiner wheels you bought? Or could a 150x12 axle be used?

MTB2223

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2014, 07:35:42 AM »
I ordered a frame at peter@xmiplay and ordered directly this axle (12x142). To be sure it will fit :)

The 15x100 axle is most of the time a part of you fork. So, if you order a fork, you will get a axle with it

adym

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2014, 07:39:18 AM »
Ok thanks, maybe the ip-057 from XMI is the best bet for the frame then, as it's only slightly more expensive than the ICAN.
Otherwise I would buy something like this. Unfortunately I can't really afford the ip-256 :(

 http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-xtr-trail-e-thru-rear-axle-m988/rp-prod54897?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Shopping&utm_name=UnitedKingdom&gs=1&gclid=CjwKEAjwgMieBRCB3bqB94e9lD4SJABW3sTNnam-ImGgJS0V26yLvWBXYUWcsRIkeY8HL_Ta0zR7mxoClc3w_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

MTB2223

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2014, 08:09:43 AM »
Ok thanks, maybe the ip-057 from XMI is the best bet for the frame then, as it's only slightly more expensive than the ICAN.
Otherwise I would buy something like this. Unfortunately I can't really afford the ip-256 :(
Why not asking ICAN if they can deliver a correct axle ?
If they not respond, you know why they are cheaper. And wonder what happen if you got troubles with your frame!
I doesn't matter to pay more for better/good service. That's why I ordered at Peter and I will buy my wheelset there.
I dont have experience with ICAN, so I can't say they are bad or good. If they are bad, you have to find this in reviews of other ...

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-xtr-trail-e-thru-rear-axle-m988/rp-prod54897?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Shopping&utm_name=UnitedKingdom&gs=1&gclid=CjwKEAjwgMieBRCB3bqB94e9lD4SJABW3sTNnam-ImGgJS0V26yLvWBXYUWcsRIkeY8HL_Ta0zR7mxoClc3w_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Looks like it is the 'same' as I ordered from peter, but other price ($20 at Peter)

adym

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2014, 08:13:02 AM »
ICAN have been emailing be frequently, so the customer service seems fine. I will enquire about the axle. But will take a closer look at the ip-057 frame and forks from XMIplay. Then need to decide about the wheels, will probably go for alloy wheels rather than carbon, it was meant to be my winter bike after all, and don't want to make it lighter than my summer bike (well I kinda do, but probably can't afford it) And still need to decide about geared (1x10) or SS.

Sitar_Ned

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2014, 08:18:33 AM »
Hey adym,

That XTR axle you linked to should work for pretty much any of the 142x12 chiner frames.

It is a lil pricey though.. Generally, when you order the axle with your frame it's about $15. Granted it's not XTR but I doubt you'd notice much of a difference.

Mind linking to the frame that you are considering?
« Last Edit: July 25, 2014, 08:20:20 AM by Sitar_Ned »

MTB2223

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2014, 08:19:52 AM »
Do what's the best for you. ICAN does not seem wrong.

If budget is really a importing thing, maybe go for QR. There are a lot of cheap, but somewhat heavy, wheelsets available at internet.

But why do you want a winter and summer bike ? I'm from the Netherlands and the summer can be very rainy. Don't need a winter and summer bike. :)

adym

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2014, 08:36:39 AM »
My "summer bike" is a Giant XTC 27.5 with XTR group set etc etc, so it's rather costly to maintain in the winter when it gets properly muddy, also I just fancy a carbon rigid 29er to have some fun on, so less summer/winter, more like just another bike!

Sitar_Ned

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2014, 09:10:22 AM »
Haha.. That makes more sense. The whole summer/winter bike thing sounds like justifications made to a wife about having to spend the money. Around here.. you can just be comfortable in your illogical need to own multiple expensive bikes  ;D

MTB2223

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2014, 03:48:39 PM »
... with XTR group set etc etc, so it's rather costly to maintain ...
That's why I'm going for XT. Best price/quality in my eyes ...

adym

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2014, 04:10:59 PM »
Oh definitely XT is a fantastic group set, although I would thoroughly recommend the upgrade to XTR shifters, they are unbelievable and can turn an XT rear mech into what feels like an XTR one. Whereas changing the mech without the shifters doesn't give you the same benefit.

adym

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2014, 04:35:15 PM »
Quick update, I have ordered a planet X dirty harry as it was only £280 reduced from £500 and being from the UK makes things easier and the geo suits me down to the ground, short 439mm chain stays and a long 625mm top tube (19" frame). I want a bike I can have fun on and this I can get over the back wheel and just have a super fun bike.

MTB2223

Re: Wheel advice
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2014, 04:38:54 PM »
Good choice! Especially if you have a good feeling about it.

You keep us informed of your project, even though the frame is not Chinese?

Geometry looks like the one of the IP-256SL 19", Chainstay 440mm, top tube 620mm.