Author Topic: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame  (Read 86252 times)

AlessandroEmm

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #480 on: October 28, 2024, 07:31:26 AM »
Mines coming together finally, took inspiration from the naked clear coated one from sites earlier, but went without logo.



Still waiting for the flat mount spacer up front end weight will be likely 7.8ish kg.

volan

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #481 on: October 28, 2024, 03:38:01 PM »
For all of you brave and handy mechanics who went with mechanical group on this frame... Please tell me, is it THAT painful? I've routed countless of cables through mtb frames, but still virgin with regards to integrated handlebars.

I was keen on getting di2 105, but damn, not sure I wanna cash out thousand+ € on it. I found really cheap 105 2x12 mechanical on Ali for 350€ (shifters, f+rd and hydro brake callipers), and that leaves me with only cranks, chain and 2 rotors to buy.

It's not the money that's the issue, it's the bang for buck issue. If so many road bikes now come with mechanical groups, I don't see why couldn't I go with it, except if the shifting perf will suck. I get it, internal routing will be pita, but once I do that, what's left to be sorry about? Couple ms faster shifting? Dont give a damn about that. RD/FD indexing? Not a problem, and from my mtb experience with shimano 12sp, they are so damn rock solid and once you set them up, they can go really forever without a issue.

Advise me please, my roadie elders.

TidyDinosaur

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #482 on: October 29, 2024, 03:35:12 AM »
For all of you brave and handy mechanics who went with mechanical group on this frame... Please tell me, is it THAT painful? I've routed countless of cables through mtb frames, but still virgin with regards to integrated handlebars.

I was keen on getting di2 105, but damn, not sure I wanna cash out thousand+ € on it. I found really cheap 105 2x12 mechanical on Ali for 350€ (shifters, f+rd and hydro brake callipers), and that leaves me with only cranks, chain and 2 rotors to buy.

It's not the money that's the issue, it's the bang for buck issue. If so many road bikes now come with mechanical groups, I don't see why couldn't I go with it, except if the shifting perf will suck. I get it, internal routing will be pita, but once I do that, what's left to be sorry about? Couple ms faster shifting? Dont give a damn about that. RD/FD indexing? Not a problem, and from my mtb experience with shimano 12sp, they are so damn rock solid and once you set them up, they can go really forever without a issue.

Advise me please, my roadie elders.

I have not build up this frame, but others. 2 tips:
1. search youtube for cable routing through the bars. Very good tutorials
2. Use a routing kit for the frame. When I first did my Hygge frame I thought I could do it without the routing kit. After struggling with it for an hour I finally grabbed the routing kit and after a few minutes it was done.

Serge_K

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #483 on: October 29, 2024, 04:46:07 AM »
For all of you brave and handy mechanics who went with mechanical group on this frame... Please tell me, is it THAT painful? I've routed countless of cables through mtb frames, but still virgin with regards to integrated handlebars.

I was keen on getting di2 105, but damn, not sure I wanna cash out thousand+ € on it. I found really cheap 105 2x12 mechanical on Ali for 350€ (shifters, f+rd and hydro brake callipers), and that leaves me with only cranks, chain and 2 rotors to buy.

It's not the money that's the issue, it's the bang for buck issue. If so many road bikes now come with mechanical groups, I don't see why couldn't I go with it, except if the shifting perf will suck. I get it, internal routing will be pita, but once I do that, what's left to be sorry about? Couple ms faster shifting? Dont give a damn about that. RD/FD indexing? Not a problem, and from my mtb experience with shimano 12sp, they are so damn rock solid and once you set them up, they can go really forever without a issue.

Advise me please, my roadie elders.

I built 4 VB w sensah mechanical. And 5 with ltwoo electronic. if you take your time, you will manage, plenty of videos online on how to proceed. Things to keep in mind:
Not all frames are mechanical compatible (this one is)
route the right hoses around the steerer, there's little room for error (dont route them all on one side, don't kink them...).
Be mindful of assembly sequence (spacers are usually 2 part, but headset bits will not be, so make sure you have the right bits in the right order in the right orientation before you route the hoses through the bars.
Bends in the bar mean the hoses will not freely slide unless you're very lucky / have a forgiving cockpit, so route the frame 1st, then the bars, and that will be the worst bit.
Obviously, you can't do it without a bike stand, and even then, you'll probably need tools like a routing kit (5 bucks), fine picks and files (ditto).
Dont forget to grease bearings area, as you really wont want to service that nightmare often.
Push extra hose into the frame as much as you can, because if you put the bike in a box for travel, you may have to disconnect things, and re-bleed brakes, cutting down hose, putting new olives...
I prefer plastic C rings & plastic spacers because it's easier to compress and is more forgiving. You might have issues with headset bits rubbing on the frame, so you might think you're done only to realize you have to undo everything to add something somewhere so it doesnt rub.
Anticipate and make sure you have good / strong lighting where you work.

Over the summer i swapped my cockpit on my er9 bike. It still took me 2 days...

None of this is fun. Good luck.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

Nkearb

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #484 on: October 29, 2024, 01:29:31 PM »
Obviously, you can't do it without a bike stand, and even then, you'll probably need tools like a routing kit (5 bucks), fine picks and files (ditto).

My method Ive developed always works and I pass 4 cable through in less than an hour with really no equipment. I begin by shoving the cable through from the back of the bike and keep jamming the cable in until it shows up out the headset. Now for the handlebars just go ahead and jam the cable in and keep jamming until they appear near the hole, I then use tweezers to extract the cable. You should prebend the cable in the arc you need it to make once its inserted. All that jamming may have mangled the tip of the cable so go ahead and trim it. Not even kidding this is foolproof and doesnt do a bit of damage to frame or bars

volan

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #485 on: Today at 06:58:27 AM »
Thank you all for advices. How about shifting performance after couple of months of riding? Does it degrade noticably? Because my MTB mechanical xt group literally doesn't need maintenance. It simply shifts. And I do ride it, 5-6 times a week.

barmo

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #486 on: Today at 11:20:25 AM »
Hi, in a few days I will order my 268.
I would like to mount it with 105 mechanical r7120, hydraulic brakes and Elite ent 38mm rims (with upgraded pillar 1420 spokes).
In order not to make mistakes when ordering the rims, can you tell me which options to select between:
Wheel width: 12x100 12x142 or QRx100 QRx135
Wheel depth: SHIMAN0 11S or SRAM XDR 12S
Hub type: Center Lock or 6 Bolt Lock
thanks guys

Gloopann

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #487 on: Today at 12:23:31 PM »
Hi, in a few days I will order my 268.
I would like to mount it with 105 mechanical r7120, hydraulic brakes and Elite ent 38mm rims (with upgraded pillar 1420 spokes).
In order not to make mistakes when ordering the rims, can you tell me which options to select between:
Wheel width: 12x100 12x142 or QRx100 QRx135
Wheel depth: SHIMAN0 11S or SRAM XDR 12S
Hub type: Center Lock or 6 Bolt Lock
thanks guys

You want 12x100 12x142, SHIMANO 11S, hub type depends on the disc rotors you are going to use, I think r7120 uses center lock but double check