Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[OlHag Cyclismo]

Btw is the derrailer hanger the same as the SL8 has?

Yes. I swapped the stock hanger with an aliexpress direct mount hanger. The fit was perfect and I've had no issues.

[glepore]

While we're on the parts swap subject, has anyone tried a seatpost swap to hylix or specialized? Thinking about zero offset, no idea if the tantan is dimensionally identical.

[fhill]

Anyone got an idea how to get the expander out again ?

Mounted the expander, but I want to take it out because of adjusting the fork shaft length and yeah seems like the fucking expander won't come out.
I opened the 6mm screw and then the counter part fell into the frame... So I can't even screw the 6mm in again

[cramy]

I'm 191cm, and I did get a bike fit before ordering it. We tried a couple of geometries on the Guru fit bike, and this geometry in size 58 was really close to my fit. Specialized chart suggests one size bigger for my height, I think.

thank you very much for the fedeback. I am thinking of doing a bike fit, seems to be the right time to do it before ordering the frame

[tiz92]

Yes. I swapped the stock hanger with an aliexpress direct mount hanger. The fit was perfect and I've had no issues.

Funny that when asking them directly they said no but apparently it is the same. Most likely they want to distance theirselfs as much as possible from the real SL8 for obvious reasons.

[BeR]

Anyone got an idea how to get the expander out again ?

Mounted the expander, but I want to take it out because of adjusting the fork shaft length and yeah seems like the fucking expander won't come out.
I opened the 6mm screw and then the counter part fell into the frame... So I can't even screw the 6mm in again

Have you tried this ?

[fhill]

Have you tried this ?

Don't see the video but yeah I got it out.
Will use another expander expander in the future

[Benbenben]

What do you guys think about the full bike offer from tantan? At 2400 usd seems like an ok deal. Only downside I see is that the chainring is 50-34 only and 170mm crank.

http://www.tantancycling.com/index.php?_m=mod_product&_a=view&p_id=1174

[raisinberry777]

What do you guys think about the full bike offer from tantan? At 2400 usd seems like an ok deal. Only downside I see is that the chainring is 50-34 only and 170mm crank.

http://www.tantancycling.com/index.php?_m=mod_product&_a=view&p_id=1174

Depends how you feel about:
- the choice of parts (e.g. I'd want wider wheels, better tyres, shorter cranks that support a power meter, and bar size isn't stated - all of which make this an instant no)
- shipping costs (generally much higher for a full bike)
- additional duty costs (and the consequences are much higher if it's picked up by customs)

For those reasons I'm pretty unlikely to ever buy a full bike build direct from China - much easier for me to do it piece-by-piece, first to make sure I get all the parts I want first time around, but also to minimise shipping/duty costs (though this is very country dependent).

[Benbenben]

I just sent them an email to see how customizable the full bike kit is. Mainly to see if they can build it with v3.0 er9 and what kind of crank that would include.
I am a bit concerned with the wheelset included. Quality I'm general and maybe too stiff with carbon spokes... Anyone here with experience with that wheelset?

I also asked if it could be a different color.

[glepore]

Someone earlier in the thread ordered with those wheels.
Don't know why you'd want wider wheels, they're 21 internal, and 28, so perfect for 30-32. Reasonably light too at under 1400g.
The crank? Yeah, I don't like shimano cranks much due to the powermeter issue, but its likely the same to buy the group with or without, so sell it and do something else. I did a wheeltop build that comes with whatever cheap cranks they generally used knowing it was going to get binned.
You can choose bar width.

[patliean1]

The main draw to buying a complete bike from TanTan is they are held accountable in making sure caliper mounts, bottom bracket, and bearing cups are properly faced within spec.

That is of course assuming they inspect and align everything prior to shipping.

[glepore]

The main draw to buying a complete bike from TanTan is they are held accountable in making sure caliper mounts, bottom bracket, and bearing cups are properly faced within spec.

That is of course assuming they inspect and align everything prior to shipping.

That's mostly why I did it that way. Also b/c wheeltop has a rep of being difficult to set up, figured it come to me most or all of the way there.

[Benbenben]

That's mostly why I did it that way. Also b/c wheeltop has a rep of being difficult to set up, figured it come to me most or all of the way there.

So you bought a complete bike, but with wheeltop & different wheels? If that's the case, Can you share what wheels you got from them & final price ?

[glepore]

I didn't buy "their" complete bike, I ordered one. I got crap wheels, just for the setup, and will sell locally cheap. They're the 50mm carbon but only 16 internal. I went to Peter (xmcarbonspeed) and bought a set of 50/65 26mm internal, t800. $650 plus shipping. Just over 1300g.
$2300 with carbon saddle. They don't offer a truly wide wheel, and while their 'wave' wheel is very nice for what it is, none of those "wave" wheels test great aerodynamically, although they do handle well in crosswinds. The latest really wide wheels seem to do ok in crosswinds as well, with the fastest and most stable seeming to settle in a range of 75% or so internal/external width.

I just didn't want to plumb the bike and set up the wheeltop, so figured I'd lose a few bucks on the wheelset and crank and have them do it.

Hoping to see the bike soon, its done but hasn't shipped, 60 days out from payment.

Peter is getting the wheels shipped in less than a week.

https://www.xmcarbonspeed.cc/products/carbon-speed-50mm-depth-26-mm-internal-width-disc-brake-gravel-bike-carbon-wheelset-700c-tubeless-compatible