Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 100005 times)

Rebel_Yell

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #450 on: March 16, 2025, 08:54:18 AM »
I didn't buy "their" complete bike, I ordered one. I got crap wheels, just for the setup, and will sell locally cheap. They're the 50mm carbon but only 16 internal. I went to Peter (xmcarbonspeed) and bought a set of 50/65 26mm internal, t800. $650 plus shipping. Just over 1300g.
$2300 with carbon saddle. They don't offer a truly wide wheel, and while their 'wave' wheel is very nice for what it is, none of those "wave" wheels test great aerodynamically, although they do handle well in crosswinds. The latest really wide wheels seem to do ok in crosswinds as well, with the fastest and most stable seeming to settle in a range of 75% or so internal/external width.

I just didn't want to plumb the bike and set up the wheeltop, so figured I'd lose a few bucks on the wheelset and crank and have them do it.

Hoping to see the bike soon, its done but hasn't shipped, 60 days out from payment.

Peter is getting the wheels shipped in less than a week.

https://www.xmcarbonspeed.cc/products/carbon-speed-50mm-depth-26-mm-internal-width-disc-brake-gravel-bike-carbon-wheelset-700c-tubeless-compatible

Which bike did you order?  I think you mean a x68, not sure. 

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #451 on: March 16, 2025, 08:57:44 AM »
Yes, x68

Rebel_Yell

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #452 on: March 16, 2025, 09:00:01 AM »
Yes, x68

I talked to them about doing like you did with what FM301 frame. Have not pulled trigger yet. 

tiz92

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #453 on: March 17, 2025, 01:18:20 AM »
I didn't buy "their" complete bike, I ordered one. I got crap wheels, just for the setup, and will sell locally cheap. They're the 50mm carbon but only 16 internal. I went to Peter (xmcarbonspeed) and bought a set of 50/65 26mm internal, t800. $650 plus shipping. Just over 1300g.
$2300 with carbon saddle. They don't offer a truly wide wheel, and while their 'wave' wheel is very nice for what it is, none of those "wave" wheels test great aerodynamically, although they do handle well in crosswinds. The latest really wide wheels seem to do ok in crosswinds as well, with the fastest and most stable seeming to settle in a range of 75% or so internal/external width.

I just didn't want to plumb the bike and set up the wheeltop, so figured I'd lose a few bucks on the wheelset and crank and have them do it.

Hoping to see the bike soon, its done but hasn't shipped, 60 days out from payment.

Peter is getting the wheels shipped in less than a week.

https://www.xmcarbonspeed.cc/products/carbon-speed-50mm-depth-26-mm-internal-width-disc-brake-gravel-bike-carbon-wheelset-700c-tubeless-compatible

Did you buy a custom painted bike or stock black?

I also ordered now btw. All stock 54 frame, lets see. Should be lighter than my current Tarmac SL7 Pro.

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #454 on: March 17, 2025, 07:36:36 AM »
Painted, the pearl white shown in the video and photos.

tiz92

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #455 on: March 17, 2025, 12:05:55 PM »
then I was also wondering if the bike accomodates really 140mm front rotors as stated on their website? The real SL8 supports only front 160mm, I would like to run 140mm though.

JImportante

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #456 on: March 17, 2025, 01:13:50 PM »
I'm 191cm, and I did get a bike fit before ordering it. We tried a couple of geometries on the Guru fit bike, and this geometry in size 58 was really close to my fit. Specialized chart suggests one size bigger for my height, I think.

hi, did you received your bike?fits you well? I'm struggling with size choice... 56 or 58? my current bike settings and my anthropometry below.


casper.f

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #457 on: March 17, 2025, 01:17:38 PM »
I went to Peter (xmcarbonspeed) and bought a set of 50/65 26mm internal, t800.  plus shipping. Just over 1300g.

Does this fit inside the X68? In Patrick Lino 's real SL8 it fitted with 32mm GP5k. When i asked this exact question tantan's responds was "32mm clearance".
IDK if this is tantan's way to deny the resamblance to the SL8, or if the clearance is really different.

I was looking at this same exact combo so any feedback is welcome!

dovh

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #458 on: March 17, 2025, 03:58:03 PM »
hi, did you received your bike?fits you well? I'm struggling with size choice... 56 or 58? my current bike settings and my anthropometry below.

Not yet. It should arrive in 12 days or so. It was just shipped out a couple of days ago. As for the size, it's hard to say. I discussed sizing when doing the bike fit and went with the fitter's recommendation. From looking at your fit and mine, it's somewhat similar, so maybe the 58 size would also fit you, but then again, im not really that knowledgeable in this to recommend you anything  :D

Reach to handlebar: 576
saddle setback: 90mm
drop from saddle to bars: 88mm

Also for the sl8 size 58 geometry i got recomended 90mm stem and 420mm width for the bars

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #459 on: March 17, 2025, 04:08:29 PM »
Does this fit inside the X68? In Patrick Lino 's real SL8 it fitted with 32mm GP5k. When i asked this exact question tantan's responds was "32mm clearance".
IDK if this is tantan's way to deny the resamblance to the SL8, or if the clearance is really different.

I was looking at this same exact combo so any feedback is welcome!
IDK, as I don't have the bike yet. But Patrick's video praising the wheels he has the same profile rim on an SL8. He's running 32's. I'll start with 30's. Check out his video at the 5 minute mark and following.
Patrick could tell you how it works. The bike has identical dimensions more or less. Specialized likewise says "32".
« Last Edit: March 17, 2025, 04:10:25 PM by glepore »

Serge_K

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #460 on: March 18, 2025, 01:47:09 AM »
then I was also wondering if the bike accomodates really 140mm front rotors as stated on their website? The real SL8 supports only front 160mm, I would like to run 140mm though.

Meanwhile i'm looking for 180 adaptors. How much do you weigh?
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

tiz92

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #461 on: March 18, 2025, 12:09:26 PM »
Meanwhile i'm looking for 180 adaptors. How much do you weigh?

Around 65 kg, threshold at 330w :D I race a lot and certainly dont get dropped due to the 140 mm rotors I already use on my SL7. I would like to keep them for easy wheel swap.

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #462 on: March 18, 2025, 04:40:59 PM »
So not to whine like a beyoch, but I'm now 65 days from payment. Was told a week ago that my bike would ship. The latest is "The goods have been shipped, but we need to wait a few days for the new tracking number." Is this accurate? Does Tantan ship in such a way that there's no tracking for a few days?

fhill

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #463 on: March 19, 2025, 12:56:51 AM »
So not to whine like a beyoch, but I'm now 65 days from payment. Was told a week ago that my bike would ship. The latest is "The goods have been shipped, but we need to wait a few days for the new tracking number." Is this accurate? Does Tantan ship in such a way that there's no tracking for a few days?

Yeah it was the same for me. No update on tracking until 2 days before arrival.

x7zise

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes
« Reply #464 on: March 21, 2025, 03:02:26 PM »
Hello and thanks to everybody sharing their experiences so far. I have two questions regarding the seatpost: Is there an offset?  And what is the minimum insertion for the longer seatpost (380mm)? I tend to order a smaller frame, but that would require the offset and a long seatpost.