Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 135192 times)

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #660 on: April 18, 2025, 10:17:04 AM »
So any updates on the possibility to use 140 mm front brakes?

See my posts from yesterday. I believe the answer is no.

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #661 on: April 18, 2025, 11:21:08 AM »
Photos. Chain in the wax pot, so not installed. Bike ships with computer mount, but I used a magcad and its very secure. Rear varia mount from esty.
Weight is 7.1 kg. Will get below 7 with caliper and rotor swap and some odds and ends.

Its a divisive topic, I know, but its going to get gold graphics from Speedy Decals.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #662 on: April 18, 2025, 04:42:24 PM »
Photos. Chain in the wax pot, so not installed. Bike ships with computer mount, but I used a magcad and its very secure. Rear varia mount from esty.
Weight is 7.1 kg. Will get below 7 with caliper and rotor swap and some odds and ends.

Its a divisive topic, I know, but its going to get gold graphics from Speedy Decals.

Yep divisive with the decals so much so I have also ordered a set from Speedy Decals
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kubackje

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #663 on: April 18, 2025, 04:58:47 PM »
I am curious to read ride impression from people who own/rode a real SL8

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #664 on: April 18, 2025, 06:28:26 PM »
I am curious to read ride impression from people who own/rode a real SL8

I have an S-Works SL8—before that, I had the SL7 and the Venge. It’s not as stiff  as the Venge that was a harsh ride, but it’s equally stiff as the SL7, just noticeably more comfortable, thanks in part to the skinny rear stays. It’s fast on the flats, but also a great bike for climbing—responsive and snappy.

Anything else you’d like to know?
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glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #665 on: April 18, 2025, 07:27:31 PM »
Prom dress.

Initial impressions, only 15 miles in a 20 mph wind. It's very comfortable for a performance bike, didn't notice the carbon spokes at all, but hey, I've never ridden anything with a really wide (26 int) and a 30. So I'm not qualified.
The position is aggressive, but I'm 65 and can ride it so long as the hoods are reasonably high.
It doesn't feel cheap, that's for sure. Does it feel like an sl8 pro/expert? Dunno. My guess is close.
Wheeltop? Man,it shifts fine. The app is difficult. Press the bluetooth thing or nothing happens. No one tells you that.
The fd shift is low in casual mode. Theres a guy on facebook that has a bootleg app that separates out race mode from sleep(oem app kills sleep if you select race), and I suspect that'll greatly improve fd action. Rear action is plenty quick.


dovh

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #666 on: April 19, 2025, 01:55:12 AM »
hello nice creation. can i ask you what height your saddle is? thanks
and one last thing: what handlebar measurements did you take?

Thanks!
it’s 774 mm, and the cockpit I got is 420mm with 90mm stem.

Also a bit of an update, i have now almost 300km on the bike and it’s been mostly without any issues.
I had garmin mount bolt come loose but now it’s fine after adding loctite to it. The other thing is the seat post clamp is making some clicking noise and the saddle slips down ever so slightly, will add more carbon paste and hopefully it will stop.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #667 on: April 19, 2025, 04:37:59 AM »
Prom dress.

Initial impressions, only 15 miles in a 20 mph wind. It's very comfortable for a performance bike, didn't notice the carbon spokes at all, but hey, I've never ridden anything with a really wide (26 int) and a 30. So I'm not qualified.
The position is aggressive, but I'm 65 and can ride it so long as the hoods are reasonably high.
It doesn't feel cheap, that's for sure. Does it feel like an sl8 pro/expert? Dunno. My guess is close.
Wheeltop? Man,it shifts fine. The app is difficult. Press the bluetooth thing or nothing happens. No one tells you that.
The fd shift is low in casual mode. Theres a guy on facebook that has a bootleg app that separates out race mode from sleep(oem app kills sleep if you select race), and I suspect that'll greatly improve fd action. Rear action is plenty quick.



Bike looks great!
Any plans to go weight weenie a little and get the weight down with some other parts
Also be great to see the decals on once you get them, as I am wondering if they are going to be easy or a faf to install
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Davidhe23

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #668 on: April 19, 2025, 05:26:05 AM »


¡La bicicleta se ve muy bien!
Cualquier plan para ir peso weenie un poco y bajar el peso con algunas otras partes.
También sea genial ver las calcomanías una vez que las obtenga, ya que me pregunto si serán fáciles o una prueba de instalación para instalar
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It depends on how meticulous you are, I spent two hours of my time installing the decals.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #669 on: April 19, 2025, 06:12:56 AM »


¡La bicicleta se ve muy bien!
Cualquier plan para ir peso weenie un poco y bajar el peso con algunas otras partes.
También sea genial ver las calcomanías una vez que las obtenga, ya que me pregunto si serán fáciles o una prueba de instalación para instalar
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It depends on how meticulous you are, I spent two hours of my time installing the decals.

I’m a like ocd lol
So think I can cope with a few hours lol.
Are they just difficult to apply?
Was hoping they be relatively easy
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glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #670 on: April 19, 2025, 07:05:51 AM »


Bike looks great!
Any plans to go weight weenie a little and get the weight down with some other parts
Also be great to see the decals on once you get them, as I am wondering if they are going to be easy or a faf to install

Look more closely at the photo in the prom dress post, they're on.
They're tedious but not really "hard" to do. Get a squegee thing for vinyl application-amazon and elsewhere. The 2 issues with application are alignment-you don't want it to stick until its where you want it, and then the upper film removal-you have to go slow at a sharp 180 to the decal or it wants to lift the more delicate edges. If you see it start to come up, immediately go back down and over with the squegee. Follow the included instructions.
I didn't do all of the specialized logos, think its too much, just the sworks on the downtube. I did put the "specialized" for the chainstay on the inside of the fork legs for a custom look.
I'm aiming for 6.8 or 9. Not a lot of room to go. The expander was installed and I hear they're a faff to remove, so I'll leave it, rather than go extralight. The tires are tlr, but I like corsa controls in the og flavor and non tlr are getting a bit difficult to find. Already on tpu. Light Ryet saddle. Have chaser thru axles but its only 20g lighter than the clone Spec axles that come with the bike. Crankset could save 100g or so but at several hundred dollars as I'd need a different pm. I'll chip away over time.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #671 on: April 19, 2025, 09:32:16 AM »
Look more closely at the photo in the prom dress post, they're on.
They're tedious but not really "hard" to do. Get a squegee thing for vinyl application-amazon and elsewhere. The 2 issues with application are alignment-you don't want it to stick until its where you want it, and then the upper film removal-you have to go slow at a sharp 180 to the decal or it wants to lift the more delicate edges. If you see it start to come up, immediately go back down and over with the squegee. Follow the included instructions.
I didn't do all of the specialized logos, think its too much, just the sworks on the downtube. I did put the "specialized" for the chainstay on the inside of the fork legs for a custom look.
I'm aiming for 6.8 or 9. Not a lot of room to go. The expander was installed and I hear they're a faff to remove, so I'll leave it, rather than go extralight. The tires are tlr, but I like corsa controls in the og flavor and non tlr are getting a bit difficult to find. Already on tpu. Light Ryet saddle. Have chaser thru axles but its only 20g lighter than the clone Spec axles that come with the bike. Crankset could save 100g or so but at several hundred dollars as I'd need a different pm. I'll chip away over time.


Great thanks for the Advice
 Like yourself I’m not applying the specialized decals either just to much
Having dark matt purple decals over the Gloss Black UD.
Also have a Roval decal for the bars 
Just a waiting game now  :-\
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kubackje

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #672 on: April 19, 2025, 09:40:13 AM »
I have an S-Works SL8—before that, I had the SL7 and the Venge. It’s not as stiff  as the Venge that was a harsh ride, but it’s equally stiff as the SL7, just noticeably more comfortable, thanks in part to the skinny rear stays. It’s fast on the flats, but also a great bike for climbing—responsive and snappy.

Anything else you’d like to know?

Wow that's crazy that such a cheap frame can offer such a good ride quality comparable to the genuine sl8. That's all I wanted to know. Thanks for the reply mate

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #673 on: April 19, 2025, 12:45:42 PM »
Wow that's crazy that such a cheap frame can offer such a good ride quality comparable to the genuine sl8. That's all I wanted to know. Thanks for the reply mate

I think you guys crossed wires, Sander doesn't have his x68 yet, its on order.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #674 on: April 19, 2025, 04:34:21 PM »
Wow that's crazy that such a cheap frame can offer such a good ride quality comparable to the genuine sl8. That's all I wanted to know. Thanks for the reply mate

Gelpore is right! ;D

I thought you meant the real SL8!
I Will give you my thoughts will be a few weeks yet though!
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