Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 206557 times)


Oro

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #976 on: May 15, 2025, 05:39:47 AM »
My frame is Gloss in 58 weight 875g with both hangers and bolts. Fork weight 333 uncut.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #977 on: May 15, 2025, 06:16:34 AM »
My frame is Gloss in 58 weight 875g with both hangers and bolts. Fork weight 333 uncut.


The SL8 white paper attached fork is 358g in RTP with 240mm Steerer tube for 56cm frame

So we have quite a variation but I would double check again later pretty sure is will not suddenly jump 60grams though  ;D
« Last Edit: May 15, 2025, 08:17:49 AM by Sander2177 »
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11kgs RhinosWorkShop Build

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm
6.4kgs Current Estimate

dovh

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #978 on: May 15, 2025, 06:40:14 AM »

The SL8 white paper attached fork is 358g in RTP with 240mm Steerer tube for 56cm frame

So we have quite a variation but I would double check again later pretty sure is will not suddenly jump 60grams though  ;D
Anyway my frame is going in next week for a scan

My uncut fork was 360.3g (somewhat good coffee scale :D) but i don't remember now if it was with thru axle or not... And the photo i have is rather pointless in that regard :D

pandinoyoung

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #979 on: May 15, 2025, 06:43:57 AM »
too much discrepancy in weight between the same forks, do they flip a coin before building them? heads or tails?

Oro

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #980 on: May 15, 2025, 07:10:34 AM »
Here are my weights for a site 58 in UD Gloss:

Seatpost: 166g 380mm with hardware
Fork: 333g uncut
Frame: 875g with hangers and bolts
Handlebar: 383g 420x120 with stem bolts an top cap and bolt
Truaxles: 54g
Expander: 54g
Headset: 42g
Seatpost wedge: 20g
Flat mount: 16g
Spacers: 28g

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #981 on: May 15, 2025, 07:25:49 AM »
Re the ztto cassette, I'm running a gen 2 (the one with the biggest cog being alu) 11-34. It works fine. Initially there was a bit of hesitation on the 5-4 "upshift" (going to a harder gear) but it got better over time, and with Wheeltop I was able to dial it all out. It is sensitive to the initial setting of the 11 and b tension.
The comment I would add is that its LOUD. Not horrible, but if you've not used a SRAM one piece cassette before you might think something's up. All of these hollow cnc machined cassettes make significantly more noise than Campy or Shimano.

I didn't weigh my forks as the brake hose was in place and I didn't want to fuss with it, but man those weight differences are disturbing, on the order of 15%. Mine has been ridden enough that I think it would have failed by now if it was underbuilt but I hate being a beta tester.

dovh

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #982 on: May 15, 2025, 08:17:02 AM »
My uncut fork was 360.3g (somewhat good coffee scale :D) but i don't remember now if it was with thru axle or not... And the photo i have is rather pointless in that regard :D

Ok i think it had to be with the thru axle so it means it was around 333g or so in that case.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #983 on: May 15, 2025, 08:24:14 AM »
Ok the frame inspection is £212gbp!
My tight Irish blood is saying no!  ;D
My sensible head is saying yes!

Well if i want to part with the cash Will have to take it in tomorrow or do I take a risk and save £200
Bit of s quandy end up spending £200 to find out the frame is no good and upset the group potentially.
CoreX88 had there frame inspected after the for failure will ask what inspection was carried out and any update to see how TanTan have been dealing with it
« Last Edit: May 15, 2025, 08:30:16 AM by Sander2177 »
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11kgs RhinosWorkShop Build

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm
6.4kgs Current Estimate

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #984 on: May 15, 2025, 08:51:15 AM »
Ok the frame inspection is £212gbp!
My tight Irish blood is saying no!  ;D
My sensible head is saying yes!

Well if i want to part with the cash Will have to take it in tomorrow or do I take a risk and save £200
Bit of s quandy end up spending £200 to find out the frame is no good and upset the group potentially.
CoreX88 had there frame inspected after the for failure will ask what inspection was carried out and any update to see how TanTan have been dealing with it

well, I'd not spend the money. Might have just the fork done given the failure, but yours is so heavy that they must have added material, lol.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #985 on: May 15, 2025, 09:54:09 AM »
well, I'd not spend the money. Might have just the fork done given the failure, but yours is so heavy that they must have added material, lol.

I like you, Glepore
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11kgs RhinosWorkShop Build

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm
6.4kgs Current Estimate

Davidhe23

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #986 on: May 15, 2025, 12:04:21 PM »
One question guys, everyone. QC Pass stickers are included in your frames?

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #987 on: May 15, 2025, 12:20:33 PM »
One question guys, everyone. QC Pass stickers are included in your frames?

Yes  ;D
Free as well
Can imagine some fellas job is just sticking them on  ;D
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11kgs RhinosWorkShop Build

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm
6.4kgs Current Estimate

Jouke

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #988 on: May 15, 2025, 02:06:31 PM »
One question guys, everyone. QC Pass stickers are included in your frames?
They are probably still on the broken fork without resin

Serge_K

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #989 on: May 15, 2025, 03:25:22 PM »
One question guys, everyone. QC Pass stickers are included in your frames?

In France some donkey in the government decided that grades were racist or transphobe, so schools now give coloured stickers to students, as if they were retarded, instead of grades.

I have the same faith in these QC stickers on frames.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.