IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build

[gpw797]

I am thinking of building one of these to compliment my ip-256 and have a couple questions...

1) How is the rear triangle holding up?
2) Any issues with bike?
2) Anybody tried plus size tires yet? What is the minimum clearance at chainstays and seatstays? I think I read it was 73mm if someone could verify that would be great.

[Carbon_Dude]

For me the rear triangle is holding up fine.  After one season of riding I pulled the pivot bearings and re-greased them.  There is a slight amount of play in the linkage but has not changed since day one.  Seems this is typical for all IP-036 frames and I'm sure if I want to fix the issue, all I would need are a few shims where the shock mounts to the rear triangle.

I have had no issues with my bike thus far.  Initially I though I had some play in the headset but after a couple tries go things tighten up there.  I'm sure a star nut would work better than the compression nut that comes with the Neco headset.

I think someone has tried 27.5" wide rims and plus tires, I think Peter even said they work but I'm not sure exactly which tires.  Not sure about 29"+ tires though.  I haven't measured the clearance personally, will do if I get a chance this weekend.

[Carbon_Dude]

I just sold my IP/CS-036 this past weekend.  It was a fun bike but I'm not looking ahead to building another plus bike, probably a 27.5"x3.0" full suspension version.  Peter has a CS-M04 frame that looks pretty good.

After two years of riding the -036 I enjoyed how well it rode but after getting my 29+ bike, I found the bigger tire size just made both my 057 and 036 bikes obsolete.  The -036 has a steeper head tube angle that just made the bike feel twitchy and less stable on the fast sections, but it did climb really well, especially with the ability to control the suspension with the twin-loc remote lever.

I also have my 057 for sale, so if I also sell it, I will be looking at a new build.  I will keep you guys up to date on what happens next.

I was a little sad to see the bike go but I think my next build will be even better.  Goodbye -036.

[carbonazza]

It is interesting the top racers are not using + wheels and bikes( so far ).
A same kind of resistance happens in road bikes with disc brakes. Cycling has a very conservative crowd.

Something strange about the CS-M04, is that it is only available for the US and Canada.

[charlesrg]

It is interesting the top racers are not using + wheels and bikes( so far ).
A same kind of resistance happens in road bikes with disc brakes. Cycling has a very conservative crowd.

Something strange about the CS-M04, is that it is only available for the US and Canada.

What type of race would use + bikes ? They are slow for XC, slow for Enduro and Slow for downhill. + is not a racing bike, it's just a in between fat and regular.

[Carbon_Dude]

I think Plus bikes will be in racing, but not until the weight of a plus bike is closer to a race bike, it might take another couple years.  I see 27.5+ breaking into Enduro first.

[charlesrg]

I just sold my IP/CS-036 this past weekend.  It was a fun bike but I'm not looking ahead to building another plus bike, probably a 27.5"x3.0" full suspension version.  Peter has a CS-M04 frame that looks pretty good.

After two years of riding the -036 I enjoyed how well it rode but after getting my 29+ bike, I found the bigger tire size just made both my 057 and 036 bikes obsolete.  The -036 has a steeper head tube angle that just made the bike feel twitchy and less stable on the fast sections, but it did climb really well, especially with the ability to control the suspension with the twin-loc remote lever.

I also have my 057 for sale, so if I also sell it, I will be looking at a new build.  I will keep you guys up to date on what happens next.

I was a little sad to see the bike go but I think my next build will be even better.  Goodbye -036.

Where are you selling them ?

I want to sell my wife 036 with XX1 + XT Brakes, + Monarch XX + SID World Cup fork.
I would also sell my M06 with same XX1 + XT Brakes, + Monarch XX + SID World Cup fork.
And could even sell my 57 with XX1 + XT Brakes +  SID World Cup

[ConcreteJ]

Hi,

I've had an o36 since 2014 and still going strong. As some owners may know there's an annoying bit of play when you lift the bike off the floor. This play does not get worse over time.


i'm glad to report that the fix for this is very simple; after many years of periodically looking to see what could be causing this give, I've found the play is due to the  cylindrical bars which pass through each shock eyelet.

It seems the length of the bars are two long for the frame and need thin shims added.

This play had made me buy the RWC needle bearing kit to no affect years ago, so the mystery is now solved.


Hope this helps someone, not that the play affected the ride once you sat on the bike but I've yet to ride it off road. I might find it rattles less along the trail or brings a smoother suspension feel, not sure!!!

[carbonazza]

It seems the length of the bars are two long for the frame and need thin shims added.

Thank you for this !!
Just to clarify, would you mind to post a picture of the shims you added ?

[ConcreteJ]

Just to clarify

I don't think I described the solution properly. I have bushings in my shock eyelets . For each eyelet you have a 3 pc bush kit. The two bushings that slide over the cyclindrical pivot bar are not wide enough to take up the gap to the left and right of the frame.

To be honest, I used small rubber o-rings I had laying around as I had no metal shims to fit, but the affect will be the same.

I'll try to post pictures, but hopefully everyone will get my drift.

Well hopefully after sourcing correct size shims in metal, this will turn out to be a legit fix.

best regards

PS, I've also put up my DIY stealth dropper mod over on MTBR.

[byronmew]

Hi All

Looking to upgrade my wifes bike to something full suspension - ideally 26" wheels on a small medium frame.

Ive got most bits to build it so ideally a frame and shock but open to anything at this stage

No major rush just fancy building her something a little nicer to use

cheers

Matt