Author Topic: Workswell WCB-M-062  (Read 259608 times)

activ3

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #450 on: July 22, 2016, 03:35:58 PM »
That's right! I couldn't come up with something meaningful and I'm not really in to replica stuff so I figured honesty was the best policy in this case. Who knows, maybe in a few years Workswell will be as natural sounding as something like Goodyear.

rapsac

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #451 on: July 23, 2016, 04:41:39 AM »
Finished:













Frame: Workswell WCB-M-062 18,5", QR adapters fitted:  1261 g
Fork: Rock Shox SID 29 RCT3 solo air cut steerer:  1541 g
QR15 front: Extralite Blacklock RS:  27 g
QR rear: Extralite Alien 4:  22 g
Headset: noname 1.125" - 1.5" integrated, excl starnut/topcap/bolt:  70 g
Starnut: FSA steel:  10 g
Topcap+bolt: absoluteBLACK alu all-in-one:  3 g
Spacers: noname carbon 2 x 5mm:  4 g
GPS mount: K-Edge stem mount fixed angle, 5mm integrated spacer:  20 g
Stem: Syntace F109 6deg 100mm with titanium screws:  113 g
Handlebar: Niner Flat Top RDO 710mm:  158 g
Bar plugs: ESI logo removed:  4 g
Grips: ESI racer's edge:  43 g
Seatpost: Syntace P6 full carbon 27.2mm/400mm:  231 g
Seatpost clamp: Carbon-Ti X Clamp 3 31.8mm:  8 g
Saddle: Selle Italia SLR kit carbonio flow black:  123 g
Shifter: Shimano XTR 10 speed incl Hope Race lever clamp:  102 g
Crankarms: SRAM X01 carbon GXP 175mm:  476 g
Crankboots: Race Face black plastic (large):  17 g
Chainrings: absoluteBLACK SRAM spiderless 34T Oval alu:  67 g
Bottom Bracket: Hope BSA stainless steel incl 1 spacer + GXP spacer:  116 g
Cassette: SRAM XX 11-36 incl alu lockring:  213 g
Rear derailleur: Shimano XTR 10 speed shadow GS (medium cage):  217 g
Chain: KMC X10SL DLC black:  232 g
Pedals: Xpedo M-FORCE 8-TI:  219 g
Shift cables: Shimano SP41 continuous outer + inner:  90 g
Brakes: Hope Race Evo X2 set, incl pads and clampbolts, excl lower clamp:  400 g
Caliper bolts: Hope titanium:  12 g
Rotor front: KCNC Razor 160mm:  73 g
Rotor rear: KCNC Razor 160mm:  73 g
Rotor bolts: Carbon-Ti titanium M5x10 T25 12x:  13,8 g
Hub front: Carbon-Ti MTB SL X hub 100mm QR15 - 32H:  110 g
Rim front: Duke Lucky Jack 2016 incl white stickers:  355 g
Spokes front: Sapim CX Ray (L+R:32x 292mm):  154 g
Nipples front: Sapim Polyax alu 12mm 32x:  10 g
Rim tape front: Notubes yellow tape 25mm:  7 g
Valve front: Schwalbe black aluminium:  4,5 g
Tire front: Continental RaceKing RaceSport 2,2:  540 g
Hub rear: Carbon-Ti MTB SL X hub 135mm QR - 32H:  197 g
Rim rear: Duke Lucky Jack 2016 incl white stickers:  350 g
Spokes rear: Sapim CX Ray (L:16x 292mm + R:16x 290mm):  153 g
Nipples rear: Sapim Polyax alu 12mm 32x:  10 g
Rim tape rear: Notubes yellow tape 25mm:  7 g
Valve rear: Schwalbe black aluminium:  4,5 g
Tire rear: Continental RaceKing RaceSport 2,2:  542 g
Bottle cage: Tune Wasserträger Universal carbon incl 2 alu bolts:  20 g
Bottle cage bolts:  Silicon bolt plug 3x:  0,75 g
Other:  latex / frame protection / grease / dirt ---> to reach scale weight:  166 g
TOTAL WEIGHT:  8590 g

A lot of latex in the RaceSport tires, difficult to seal.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2016, 04:46:23 AM by rapsac »

Jar_head

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #452 on: July 23, 2016, 06:11:04 AM »
Looks very nice! Great work  ;)

And still lots of potential to build it more lightweight! The syntace seatpost, handlebars, and of course the tires.. For me they were difficult to seal too. I changed them for Schwalbes. Lot easier and lighter..
You could also run a 11-speed chain on that 10-speed cassette to save some grams.
What do you use as chainstay protector? Looks interesting!

For what purpose did you build the bike? Do you think the range of the cassette will be enough?
I ran the exact same setup last racing season and found that it is to hard on long distances, especially in steep climbs.
Workswell WCB-M-062: 7905 grams
Focus Cayo Evo 2.0: 6260 grams

For sale: http://bikemarkt.mtb-news.de/user/193302

Carbon_Dude

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #453 on: July 23, 2016, 06:12:33 AM »
That's one of the lightest 1x suspension Chiners I've seen!  Congrats on your new ride!
2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

rapsac

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #454 on: July 23, 2016, 06:31:09 AM »
Looks very nice! Great work  ;)

And still lots of potential to build it more lightweight! The syntace seatpost, handlebars, and of course the tires.. For me they were difficult to seal too. I changed them for Schwalbes. Lot easier and lighter..
You could also run a 11-speed chain on that 10-speed cassette to save some grams.
What do you use as chainstay protector? Looks interesting!

For what purpose did you build the bike? Do you think the range of the cassette will be enough?
I ran the exact same setup last racing season and found that it is to hard on long distances, especially in steep climbs.

Thanks. Yes, could be lighter still. Some lighter stuff is on my Anthem X29 right now. It is a bike for local tracks and I live in The Netherlands. So 1x10 is ok. The protector is Slapper Tape.
I have used various Schwalbe tires a lot, but for my local tracks I like the RaceKing better.

Like your bike too!

Sitar_Ned

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #455 on: July 23, 2016, 07:36:16 AM »
Nice build rapsac.. You did an incredible job on the decals.

SportingGoods

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #456 on: July 25, 2016, 05:30:43 AM »
Very cool bike!

I get a few questions if you don't mind.
1) Decals.
Have you applied anything over the decals? Clear coat? Nothing? If nothing, does it get damaged easily?
2) Rotors.
Do you experience any pulsing with these very light rotors? Fork wobbling? Do you feel they don't break as hard as regular rotors?
3) Seatpost.
That seatpost seems very much out of the frame. Are you sure you get enough length inside?

rapsac

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #457 on: July 25, 2016, 06:56:57 AM »
Very cool bike! I get a few questions if you don't mind.
1) Decals.
Have you applied anything over the decals? Clear coat? Nothing? If nothing, does it get damaged easily?
2) Rotors.
Do you experience any pulsing with these very light rotors? Fork wobbling? Do you feel they don't break as hard as regular rotors?
3) Seatpost.
That seatpost seems very much out of the frame. Are you sure you get enough length inside?
Thanks. In answer to your questions:
1. Vinyl stickers, no clear coat. Sort of like rim stickers. Replaceable item.
2. Some minor sounds. For where I live (no mountains, only some hills) they are fine. Do a www search on them for other opinions.
3. Yes

carbonazza

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #458 on: July 25, 2016, 07:14:21 AM »
@rapsac, Nice bike! It looks incredibly to mine! Same brakes and rotors, derailleur, and light carbon parts where you have them.
Just a Lauf fork that makes it around 500g lighter :)

Do the xpedo pedals offer some play, or are they rigid like SPD?

@SportingGoods, I noticed the braking was less sharp changing the rotors from the heavy Hope ones I had initially.
But after a few rides I got used to them.

rapsac

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #459 on: July 25, 2016, 08:39:40 AM »
@rapsac, Nice bike! It looks incredibly to mine! Same brakes and rotors, derailleur, and light carbon parts where you have them. Just a Lauf fork that makes it around 500g lighter :)
Do the xpedo pedals offer some play, or are they rigid like SPD?

Thanks, like your Lauf fork. Was thinking about it, but the Reba works ok for now.
Really like the Xpedo's. Durable (replace the cartridge bearings, 3 per pedal, of my oldest set recently) and easy enough to use. Feels like SPD, a little bit harder to clip into (small difference), just as easy to get out. Float more or less like SPD as well.

german88

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #460 on: July 25, 2016, 08:52:43 AM »
Finally got the new Fox 32 step cast fork after a 2 month wait!  Routing the rear brake was a non issue feeding from the caliper end.  Took all of 5 minutes using the "pull" method with a thin wire and barb end.  Did not run full length derailleur housing.  Not sure why anyone would??  Bar stem combo will be changed at some point as both were from a previous build.  Now waiting on the bleed kit for the SRAM guide brakes in order to terminate and bleed.  Uses a different threaded coupler than the old Avid brakes... 
« Last Edit: July 25, 2016, 09:17:34 AM by german88 »

Jar_head

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #461 on: July 25, 2016, 10:11:35 AM »
Nice One!

Who runs full housing for the rear derailleur? Doesn't really make sense to me, since it's protected inside the frame?! Outside form the shifter to the front cable stop and from the rear cable stop to the derailleur. For the internal routing and protection of the derailleur cable I use Jagwire Slick-Lube Liner. This is how it looks around the BB. The Liner also protects the cable guide from rubbing.

Workswell WCB-M-062: 7905 grams
Focus Cayo Evo 2.0: 6260 grams

For sale: http://bikemarkt.mtb-news.de/user/193302

RS VR6

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #462 on: July 25, 2016, 02:18:39 PM »
I run full housing...since there was no other option when I got my frame. It does rattle a bit when the trail gets real rough.

SportingGoods

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #463 on: July 25, 2016, 05:35:19 PM »
I have a different frame but I still want to share the reason I decided to run a full housing for RD/FD. I actually have 2 reasons:
1) more rigid setup. The less connection the more rigid it is => more crispy shifting
2) prevents water from going into the housing. Water does penetrate into the frame (sometimes I push it out with compressed air). Running a full housing prevents moisture to be in contact with the cable.

german88

Re: Workswell WCB-M-062
« Reply #464 on: July 25, 2016, 06:58:35 PM »
Wasn't to concerned about overall weight but had to know after seeing this last build.  Came out at 19.21 lbs measured on a high end scale for shipping.