ICAN triaero A9

Started by Matt_C, October 01, 2020, 04:01:58 AM

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patliean1

This frame looks lovely.

Anyone any recent photos in the wild?

noseparade

My frameset came about a week ago and I was giving it a look over today. Something caught my eye which I wonder if anyone else ever experienced. There is a hole drilled into the fork for internal routing of hydraulic brakes (nothing wrong with that, quite ordinary). Right next to it is what appears to be another hole that was drilled, and then filled with some sort of resin. Has anyone seen a fork like this? I'm worried that it's not safe to use, though I can't imaging ICAN would knowingly patch over a hole and then drill another one if they didn't think it was out of safety tolerances.



patliean1

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Quote from: noseparade on July 31, 2022, 09:19:29 PM
My frameset came about a week ago and I was giving it a look over today. Something caught my eye which I wonder if anyone else ever experienced. There is a hole drilled into the fork for internal routing of hydraulic brakes (nothing wrong with that, quite ordinary). Right next to it is what appears to be another hole that was drilled, and then filled with some sort of resin. Has anyone seen a fork like this? I'm worried that it's not safe to use, though I can't imaging ICAN would knowingly patch over a hole and then drill another one if they didn't think it was out of safety tolerances.

What did ICAN say about the hole when you contacted them?

noseparade

Quote from: patliean1 on August 01, 2022, 08:52:06 AM
What did ICAN say about the hole when you contacted them?

I talked to Peggy over WhatsApp and after checking with their factory she said it was normal

RDY

I would definitely not say it's 'normal' ... unless their forks are all the rejects from when the factory workers are drunk at 4pm on a Friday and start drilling the holes on the side of the fork instead of the front.  Also there's generally very high porosity (loads of small voids) - suggesting something wrong with the resin - and the join below (in photo) or above (on steerer) looks really bad.   In general this looks like it's really bad quality.

noseparade

Quote from: RDY on August 01, 2022, 12:41:03 PM
I would definitely not say it's 'normal' ... unless their forks are all the rejects from when the factory workers are drunk at 4pm on a Friday and start drilling the holes on the side of the fork instead of the front.  Also there's generally very high porosity (loads of small voids) - suggesting something wrong with the resin - and the join below (in photo) or above (on steerer) looks really bad.   In general this looks like it's really bad quality.

Yeah it is a bit odd isn't it... the "official" hole is on the side which is consistent with what I've seen on other forks with internal routing. It is just that pocket of resin that looks like a filled hole that worries me. I doubt you could even call the pores "voids" since whatever fills that hole was placed after the initial vacuum.

noseparade

#126
So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say none of your headtubes look like this on the inside either...  :o




Velovelo

wow

St0mpB0x

I've had a bad experience with an ICAN quality issue as well recently. Although not as shocking as the above head tube. I'll probably make a post about it properly soon.

Irideslowly

Hambini would have a field day.



Oh, his frame was perfect. How convenient.

bamboo_mountain

That is horrible, absolutely not safe to ride, and further evidence that we really are rolling the dice with these budget tier frames. I think it is clear at this point that anyone who has not bought anonymously or been sent a frame for review has been sent a "good" frame, and we the consumers get whatever rolls of the line with essentially no QC.

patliean1

I get contacted everyday, sometimes multiple times a day, on my recommendation for a new frame set.

And I always give the same answer: Spend as much as you can.
It's surprising how many folks outright tell me they have the budget for a Yoeleo/Winspace/Seka, yet believe buying a $500-$700 frame will yield similar quality and experience. It won't.

RDY

Quote from: noseparade on August 01, 2022, 09:33:58 PM
So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say none of your headtubes look like this on the inside either...  :o





That's appalling.  Not just the bearing seats (which are way worse than my already shitty VB-099) but the headtube itself too.

RDY

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Quote from: patliean1 on August 02, 2022, 07:48:00 AM
I get contacted everyday, sometimes multiple times a day, on my recommendation for a new frame set.

And I always give the same answer: Spend as much as you can.
It's surprising how many folks outright tell me they have the budget for a Yoeleo/Winspace/Seka, yet believe buying a $500-$700 frame will yield similar quality and experience. It won't.

I don't think people should expect Yoeleo to be in the same bracket as Speeder or Seka ... they're cheapo frames with pretty paint.

Icyseanfitz

That's bloody horrible, my ICAN p9 frame was finished to a completely different level, what are they saying?