Author Topic: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame  (Read 647335 times)

hazzer19

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #345 on: July 16, 2024, 01:46:23 PM »
Can I get this out?


I've removed in the past and drilled it out as well to fit the Di2 cable. There should be a hex bolt to loosen it?

hazzer19

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #346 on: July 16, 2024, 01:47:41 PM »
Never had more issues in a build. That aside, here is the latest.

The stem clamp bolt just spins out because some genius at Velobuild put a round nut in a round hole.

When it hits the point of tension where it should grip the whole thing, it just spins in the carbon hole. The bolt is not threaded. It is the nut and bolt spinning together in perfect unison because the bolt has nowhere to grip.

Apart from smashing this turd with a sledgehammer, any suggestions? ;)


Does the nut not have a hex head that you can hold in place with another tool? That's how mine are, and I have to use two tools occasionally.

BAcy

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #347 on: July 16, 2024, 02:37:38 PM »

I've removed in the past and drilled it out as well to fit the Di2 cable. There should be a hex bolt to loosen it?

Yes but even when loosened I couldn't get it out. It was making scary creaking noises and also I wasn't sure if I would be able to put it back in after.

RasmusWH

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #348 on: July 18, 2024, 01:55:25 PM »
No, unfortunately, the nut side is round, and once the thread is at the point of engaging, it's already past flush to get another tool in. A real dumb piece of engineering by Velobuild. About to just part it off and buy a complete build as I'm out of time to prep for a trip next week.

Both of mine also have hex heads, weird..

trytogo

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #349 on: July 18, 2024, 02:11:30 PM »
Both of mine also have hex heads, weird..

Is it hex internal on the bolt side with a round on the outside? That's how mine are, but screwing in, the bolt goes past the point of being able to get a hex head, and the screw is protruding out the other side. Designed with zero thought, will have to trash the whole handlebar assembly but with all the other issues on the frame really hesitant to stuff more money and time into this build which is likely a lemon regardless.

mux

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #350 on: July 18, 2024, 11:52:29 PM »
I appreciate your experience, but it's just impossible to believe. 250 watts for average rider is 34-35 kph (21-21.7 mph) and 3-4 mph (4.8 - 6.4 kph) difference which you claim, it's around 100 watt difference in power, it's insane. The vbr268 must be made from noodles.

I wonder if there is a placebo effect. While I don't disagree the SL8 is the better finish. I can't imagine those gains from the frame alone.

Sakizashi

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #351 on: July 19, 2024, 11:09:47 AM »
I wonder if there is a placebo effect. While I don't disagree the SL8 is the better finish. I can't imagine those gains from the frame alone.

I think the context of @patliean1 's comment is not claiming the aero difference of the bikes, but rather suggesting that he rides faster given the same average wattage on the SL8 due to better comfort (and likely therefore different body position) over broken pavement. I think the 3-4mph claim is probably high, but he also said its a "bro science" observation (i.e., not well measured) and he is a larger rider than me so IDK. For me, I have seen a 3+mph difference between sitting up on the hoods and aerobars, but not quite hoods to aero hoods

rasch

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #352 on: July 19, 2024, 12:16:50 PM »
Hahaha what is curious is that a lot of ppl ask for comparison and feedback and then the same or others start complaining about the feeling/review he made haha. A review is nothing but personal and in most cases biased (not saying this is the case here)

rasch

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #353 on: July 20, 2024, 11:22:08 AM »
 
How hard is it to do the same loop in the same position at the same watts with the same wheels with both bikes? There's a stadium close to me and you can ride around it. It's a loop so negates the wind. With the same bike you can test positions. With two bikes you can compare them. Let's not pretend it takes a PhD to do such tests.
That would be clean data. It gets more nuanced around ride quality, sprints, stiffness, shock absorption and so on. And it's perfectly fine to prefer a nicer bike. I prefer dating pretty girls, although one could argue an ugly one could serve me just as well. Some would say, such as that sailor I met at a Shoreditch pub in 2007, better.

I'd say it's not about taking a PhD or how hard it is. People are looking for marginal gains.For those who notice and make use of those marginal gains, I'm sure they are or can easily be sponsored.

RasmusWH

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #354 on: July 21, 2024, 12:38:30 AM »
Is it hex internal on the bolt side with a round on the outside? That's how mine are, but screwing in, the bolt goes past the point of being able to get a hex head, and the screw is protruding out the other side. Designed with zero thought, will have to trash the whole handlebar assembly but with all the other issues on the frame really hesitant to stuff more money and time into this build which is likely a lemon regardless.

Same mechanism for me but I can get enough tension before it protrudes and hit the hex key. Perhaps you can measure the length of the bolt, it might be longer than the ones I got?


csanz

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #355 on: July 21, 2024, 10:25:20 AM »
I have just received the new seat clamp for the carbon saddle, and now it finally fits perfectly. It took a while (a bit more than 2 months) and several emails, but Chris resolved my problems.

JerenK

Build day 1
« Reply #356 on: July 21, 2024, 12:08:11 PM »
No big problems. Yet.

Going to buy a bigger expander.

A bit of damage in transit and the paint job wasbt that good.
Chris is going yo handle it he said. Fast reaction!

Gonna update some build pictures in the rest of the coming weeks.

SRAM RIVAL AXS 2by group and elite 55mm wheels.




Speedyvelo

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #357 on: July 21, 2024, 09:36:45 PM »
How do people like the Mavic speed release and wheel compatibility?

I like them. The following is from the Mavic Site"

"The Speed Release axle technology makes the use of thru axle faster, easier and safer.
In only 4 turns, it is screwed and unscrewed.
When removing the wheel from the frame, it doesn't need to be taken out from the hub. It stays on the wheel and you don't need an extra hand to hold it while manipulating the frame or the wheel. No risk of forgetting it on the parking lot.
It's integrated torque management system makes sure it is always perfectly tighten.
At last, at only 40g front and 45g rear, it is also one of the lightest thru axle on the market, with an integrated lever.
Only compatible with Speed Release compatible frames and forks (Lapierre, Orbea, Cannondale, Wilier, Origine, Enve, Votec, Airstreeem, Caminade, Victoire...)"

massarob

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #358 on: July 22, 2024, 02:02:05 AM »
Hello everyone, 1st post here but not my first bike, I guess this is my #20ish installed "no brand" bike in 15 years.
All went fine, especially as I decided to go AXS so it's super fast. What required more time is the routing through the (separated) handlebar. With a traditional handlebar, which requires an open window in the headset top cup, this would be easier but less pleasant from an aesthetic POV. I'd do this way next time (or the first time I'll need to change headset bearings).
One problem so far, for me, it's the "carbon" saddle clamp: as others noted it's too small for a 9mm height rail. I just wrote Chris for an updated clamp. For now, I Installed the 7*7mm clamp with a heavy Fizik saddle.
About weight, well...it's not its strength being a little "porky" but it's not too bad either (8.2 Kg as in photo).
I'll try it in the next days, checking seatpost "slippage".
Going back, I'd go with a 177, but now here it is.
Boring matte black, but hey, (less) grams!

2Burgen

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #359 on: July 22, 2024, 02:47:02 AM »
Does anyone know if it is possible to install a cable computer?